Ok, I was wrong in believing Canadians weren’t so stupid as to allow this idiot to be elected not once, not twice, but THREE TIMES What’s to discuss? The guy is restarted and we’ll NEVER recover from the damage he’s done
That’s still a “I was right and they were wrong statement”. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like him either and I’ve seen the damage. But it’s not the purpose of the post
Right but you're wrong about being wrong. Just pointing that out. I underestimated how evil our politicians actually were. I truly believe they're mostly satanic pedophiles.
I thought Trump would fade away after his loss and the Republican party will again become the party it was after getting out of his grip. I was wrong. Seems like he has even a tighter grip on it.
For a good while I confused Republicans, conservatives and teabaggers as separate parties
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I used to think that all republicans were arrogant, ignorant, bigoted, self centred, uneducated, vulnerable people exploited by popularist strategy politicians... I still think this.
Well you just openly said that you still think Republicans are “ arrogant, ignorant, bigoted, self centred, uneducated, vulnerable people exploited by popularist strategy politicians”
If you want to state your opinion like an adult you need to own up to your opinion like an adult.
I hope you get to know some and you can see that they’re normal people pretty often. Labeling terrible things to a specific group of people is the description of prejudice
Exactly. QA you are likely getting a very warped view on how most conservatives are. You are likely getting a very leftist education, follow an enclave of leftist social media influencers, follow leftist media outlets, etc. The left does target children and they used emotionally based arguments to influence them. They know they are more impressionable.
TikTok is owned by the communist party of China. The app can spy on other applications and data on your phone. They also intentionally show different content to USA users vs. what they show the Chinese kids. They intentionally try to corrupt younger people in the United States.
YouTube is owned by Google. Google has very liberal but they try to hide it. They have demonetized conservative influencers like Steven Crowder. Instagram is owned by Meta which is Facebook. Facebook is laissez faire but that didn’t stop them from censoring a TRUE Hunter Biden story to help Joe Biden secure a 2020 election.
Twitter was bought by Elon Musk since they were the worst of the worst when it came liberal censorship. Musk was a fan of the Babylon Bee which was a conservative SATIRE outlet. It is supposed to be parody and f*cking old Twitter shut it down. That was the straw the broke the camel’s back for Elon.
The alt right does exist but they are minuscule in power and outreach. Musk doesn’t want to enable far right commentary. He just wants things to be like before the left took full authoritarian control of social media.
Elon musk suspended Kanye West because that psycho put up a tweet with a swastika. West also went also went completely insane with an interview with Alex Jones saying “Hitler wasn’t a bad person”. Alex Jones (who I don’t like) had to walk him back and be a moderate which shows you how nut case crazy Kanye is.
But you probably think all conservatives agree with Kanye. Newsflash: The vast majority of conservatives are NOT okay with Kanye West’s insane anti-semiticism. Not even far right Alex Jones agrees with him.
But simple minded leftists think like this:
Nazis = Q-Anón = Republican influencers = Donald Trump = Anybody who voted for Trump = Anybody who did not vote Democrat = anybody who doesn’t go along with the woke agenda.
So call me an idiot all you want. But you are stereotypically unable to take in facts and take disagreement as “hatred”. What I am saying hurts your feelings because you are afraid of potentially being proved wrong.
But you know what don’t waste your time here. Don’t open your mind up to dissenting opinions. Just go back to getting all your political education from people like AOC and your TikTok bubble.
Freedom of speech tho? Kanye got suspended by twitter because he actually posted an unflattering picture of eLon musk which he got offended by (like a snowflake) and got removed and banned
But Jordan Peterson got suspended by old Twitter (and later reinstated) for saying men are men and women are women. But for the radical left just saying that is the equivalent to saying you support the Holocaust.
He wasn't banned for the swastika. Look at the order of events. 1. Swastika posted, 2. Elon warned Ye, 3. Ye insulted Elon and posted topless picture of eLon, 4. Ye suspended
Not how I feel though. I’ve lived in India and South America and my ancestor worked hard to move here from Mexico. Boy are we lucky to live where we live
These days there are better places in my humble opinion, but I don't want to start a war. Suffice to say there has been a decline in the American Empire that needs to be reversed by better governance. People have forgotten the poem on the Statue of Liberty!
They were on the TV every day crying that he was rushing for jumping to human testing too early and cutting too much red tape. They were questioning the safety of the vaccine every day until Biden took office and then all of a sudden anyone who had a problem with the vaccine was a Trump supporting bigot.
@Telekinetic-Potato being worried about the speed of giving it to people is vastly different than not wanting a vaccine. Also, the reason why people are having issues after getting the vaccine is due to the rush. It's better than dying, but most vaccines are not rushed to the degree this one was, mainly because what they treat are generally not killing thousands a day and infecting more. I am in support of vaccination of everyone because I actually know how the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines work as well as the subdermal cocktail (which is why experimental), because their research is available online. Most people don't understand it though. Also I got on a medical site, that is locked behind a password, so I don't know if the general population would have access to it. The benefits of living with a medical professional, and having a pulmonologist in the family. Honestly, she is the reason why I know about new experimental treatments before my doctor does.
Then wouldn't you know that the only part that was really skipped was the animal testing? They already had a vaccine they felt was ready for testing by the time he took this initiative so all that was really left to do so far as I understand was make sure it was relatively safe. Which is a whole other discussion I'm sure we could get into some other time.
I'm just saying that it kinda is dumb and takes away your credibility to take a figure of speech as an opportunity to discredit the man who absolutely was the reason the vaccine made it to people in time for us to even have a discussion about how helpful it was.
It was a decision made totally for the people where he took his personal feelings to the side and showed a real sense of duty.
@Telekinetic-Potato Yes, and as far as I can see that's the only time where he didn't act in self-interest. As for the plan to roll it out and distribute it in 2021, that was Biden. Trump had gotten the orders out for the vaccine but had not yet worked out a plan for distribution. The Biden team thought the White House was holding out on them and not giving them their plan for vaccine distribution. They weren't, there wasn't one. Biden's team had a tentative one, put in place in case he won, but they expected to use the framework of the existing plan, instead they had to make a framework within their plan because that's the only plan there was.
Well, before I get too ahead of myself, credit where credit is due regardless. But I still don't see it as this big problem that he handled better than if anyone else were in his position
@Telekinetic-Potato I wouldn't say he did it better than anyone else would have, the best that can be said is that he didn't do it worse than anyone else were they in his position. It can be argued that he is the reason we were in this position because we had a pandemic response team created under Geroge W. Bush and expanded under Obama, which Trump disbanded. Ebola was less of a threat because of said team. I am not saying that Trump should have kept the team when he disbanded it, because nobody knew COVID-19 would come. Yet, if we had that team we may not have had the issues we have. Plus, his initial response to it was lackluster, so other presidents may not have even been in such a position in the first place.
Lackluster? That was another thing the media was going crazy about he was literally the first person to act. He shut down the boarders and had suggestions from the cdc sent out to all the states on what they should do and allowed the states to individually decide how to act.
They were maiming the guy for doing it as early as he did. Lol I mean c'mon man
And my memory is a little foggy but wasn't it pretty unclear how bad this was going to be back then. I vaguely remember a general feeling of uncertainty about how serious this was going to be.
I remember very clearly though getting into an Uber and the guy had CNN playing on a tablet and he was tearing into Trump for shutting down the boarders this and all the businesses are closed that and he better get the people outside of the country back home that.
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Believing there was a limit to Trudeau’s stupidity and delusion
Seems like you’re secretly saying “I was even more right than I thought I was” lol.
Something like that
Well that’s really not answering the question and it’s demonstrative of an attitude that hurts general discourse
Ok, I was wrong in believing Canadians weren’t so stupid as to allow this idiot to be elected not once, not twice, but THREE TIMES
What’s to discuss? The guy is restarted and we’ll NEVER recover from the damage he’s done
That’s still a “I was right and they were wrong statement”. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like him either and I’ve seen the damage. But it’s not the purpose of the post
I used to like the concept of minimum wage until I looked into its actual effects.
lol, he was against people getting the vaccine up until his pockets started getting kickbacks from big pharma. Not a radical change of direction.
Again, not answering the actual question
Right but you're wrong about being wrong. Just pointing that out. I underestimated how evil our politicians actually were. I truly believe they're mostly satanic pedophiles.
This isn’t a “let’s point out how other people are wrong” question though. Be brave
I thought Trump would fade away after his loss and the Republican party will again become the party it was after getting out of his grip. I was wrong. Seems like he has even a tighter grip on it.
For a good while I confused Republicans, conservatives and teabaggers as separate parties
I used to think that all republicans were arrogant, ignorant, bigoted, self centred, uneducated, vulnerable people exploited by popularist strategy politicians... I still think this.
So you believe you weren’t mistaken?
So you’re not answering the question, you’re just using this as a chance to hate on people
I'm not hating on anyone 😊😘
Well you just openly said that you still think Republicans are “ arrogant, ignorant, bigoted, self centred, uneducated, vulnerable people exploited by popularist strategy politicians”
If you want to state your opinion like an adult you need to own up to your opinion like an adult.
Republicans would take all those as compliments 😂
I hope you get to know some and you can see that they’re normal people pretty often. Labeling terrible things to a specific group of people is the description of prejudice
Exactly. QA you are likely getting a very warped view on how most conservatives are. You are likely getting a very leftist education, follow an enclave of leftist social media influencers, follow leftist media outlets, etc. The left does target children and they used emotionally based arguments to influence them. They know they are more impressionable.
Have you not heard of the alt-right pipeline? Conservatives on tiktok, YouTube, Instagram are grooming kids aswell
TikTok is owned by the communist party of China. The app can spy on other applications and data on your phone. They also intentionally show different content to USA users vs. what they show the Chinese kids. They intentionally try to corrupt younger people in the United States.
YouTube is owned by Google. Google has very liberal but they try to hide it. They have demonetized conservative influencers like Steven Crowder. Instagram is owned by Meta which is Facebook. Facebook is laissez faire but that didn’t stop them from censoring a TRUE Hunter Biden story to help Joe Biden secure a 2020 election.
Twitter was bought by Elon Musk since they were the worst of the worst when it came liberal censorship. Musk was a fan of the Babylon Bee which was a conservative SATIRE outlet. It is supposed to be parody and f*cking old Twitter shut it down. That was the straw the broke the camel’s back for Elon.
The alt right does exist but they are minuscule in power and outreach. Musk doesn’t want to enable far right commentary. He just wants things to be like before the left took full authoritarian control of social media.
Elon musk just suspended Kanye West. So much for freedom of speech. You're just an idiot lmao
Elon musk suspended Kanye West because that psycho put up a tweet with a swastika. West also went also went completely insane with an interview with Alex Jones saying “Hitler wasn’t a bad person”. Alex Jones (who I don’t like) had to walk him back and be a moderate which shows you how nut case crazy Kanye is.
But you probably think all conservatives agree with Kanye. Newsflash: The vast majority of conservatives are NOT okay with Kanye West’s insane anti-semiticism. Not even far right Alex Jones agrees with him.
But simple minded leftists think like this:
Nazis = Q-Anón = Republican influencers = Donald Trump = Anybody who voted for Trump = Anybody who did not vote Democrat = anybody who doesn’t go along with the woke agenda.
So call me an idiot all you want. But you are stereotypically unable to take in facts and take disagreement as “hatred”. What I am saying hurts your feelings because you are afraid of potentially being proved wrong.
But you know what don’t waste your time here. Don’t open your mind up to dissenting opinions. Just go back to getting all your political education from people like AOC and your TikTok bubble.
Freedom of speech tho? Kanye got suspended by twitter because he actually posted an unflattering picture of eLon musk which he got offended by (like a snowflake) and got removed and banned
He posted a SWASTIKA. That’s pushing it.
But Jordan Peterson got suspended by old Twitter (and later reinstated) for saying men are men and women are women. But for the radical left just saying that is the equivalent to saying you support the Holocaust.
He wasn't banned for the swastika. Look at the order of events. 1. Swastika posted, 2. Elon warned Ye, 3. Ye insulted Elon and posted topless picture of eLon, 4. Ye suspended
The Swastika was the trigger. He was rightfully flagged for it.
Do you think he should of been left on?
He was being left on, he only got banned because Elon musk is self conscious 😂😂
That the American people would wake up and cast off the chains of their quasi-totalitarian elected officials.
That America had the Best Democracy and Freedom in the World. Sadly, that's been COMPLETELY SHATTERED by pols, like Dump and the Republitards.
Pretty common. Lots of people were surprised
Ya, sad, isn't it?
This response was on the wrong comment haha oops
Still fits! LOL!
What are democracies you like more than America?
Not how I feel though. I’ve lived in India and South America and my ancestor worked hard to move here from Mexico. Boy are we lucky to live where we live
These days there are better places in my humble opinion, but I don't want to start a war. Suffice to say there has been a decline in the American Empire that needs to be reversed by better governance. People have forgotten the poem on the Statue of Liberty!
Well hopefully you find a good place to live that you’re happy with☺️
Thank you and you too!
Love where I am, thanks! God bless the USA
That's only what the media and dems want stupid people to believe because they can't possibly take the blame for any of their own absurd bullshit..
Proof the left can't meme
I thought the USA wouldn't be stupid enough to elect Trump.
That I hope Joe Biden would have been a better president. But he turned out just as I thought he would.
Supporting the Dem party. Turns out Dem party is just as corrupt as the Republican party. Now I'm an independent Progressive.
I've often told people we are a democracy and we are to some extent. We practice socialism every day. Yet I am wrong in calling it those things.
That it matters, it doesn't in this country. The electoral college has final say of who is elected.
Trump. Thought he was an easy opponent for Hillary right up til Election Day. Go on right wingers, you deserve to gloat.
For starters, Trump didn't develop it. He's not a scientist. it was developed by scientists while he was president.
*using funding and resources he was belittled for and fought tooth and nail to obtain.
@Telekinetic-Potato I know of no one who thought COVID-19 presented a real and present danger who didn't want a vaccine.
They were on the TV every day crying that he was rushing for jumping to human testing too early and cutting too much red tape. They were questioning the safety of the vaccine every day until Biden took office and then all of a sudden anyone who had a problem with the vaccine was a Trump supporting bigot.
Like you're trolling right?
@Telekinetic-Potato being worried about the speed of giving it to people is vastly different than not wanting a vaccine. Also, the reason why people are having issues after getting the vaccine is due to the rush. It's better than dying, but most vaccines are not rushed to the degree this one was, mainly because what they treat are generally not killing thousands a day and infecting more.
I am in support of vaccination of everyone because I actually know how the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines work as well as the subdermal cocktail (which is why experimental), because their research is available online. Most people don't understand it though. Also I got on a medical site, that is locked behind a password, so I don't know if the general population would have access to it. The benefits of living with a medical professional, and having a pulmonologist in the family. Honestly, she is the reason why I know about new experimental treatments before my doctor does.
Then wouldn't you know that the only part that was really skipped was the animal testing? They already had a vaccine they felt was ready for testing by the time he took this initiative so all that was really left to do so far as I understand was make sure it was relatively safe. Which is a whole other discussion I'm sure we could get into some other time.
I'm just saying that it kinda is dumb and takes away your credibility to take a figure of speech as an opportunity to discredit the man who absolutely was the reason the vaccine made it to people in time for us to even have a discussion about how helpful it was.
It was a decision made totally for the people where he took his personal feelings to the side and showed a real sense of duty.
@Telekinetic-Potato Yes, and as far as I can see that's the only time where he didn't act in self-interest. As for the plan to roll it out and distribute it in 2021, that was Biden. Trump had gotten the orders out for the vaccine but had not yet worked out a plan for distribution. The Biden team thought the White House was holding out on them and not giving them their plan for vaccine distribution. They weren't, there wasn't one. Biden's team had a tentative one, put in place in case he won, but they expected to use the framework of the existing plan, instead they had to make a framework within their plan because that's the only plan there was.
Distribution? How would you even have a plan for that until the last second? Plus that's the easiest part to figure out.
Well, before I get too ahead of myself, credit where credit is due regardless. But I still don't see it as this big problem that he handled better than if anyone else were in his position
@Telekinetic-Potato I wouldn't say he did it better than anyone else would have, the best that can be said is that he didn't do it worse than anyone else were they in his position. It can be argued that he is the reason we were in this position because we had a pandemic response team created under Geroge W. Bush and expanded under Obama, which Trump disbanded. Ebola was less of a threat because of said team. I am not saying that Trump should have kept the team when he disbanded it, because nobody knew COVID-19 would come. Yet, if we had that team we may not have had the issues we have. Plus, his initial response to it was lackluster, so other presidents may not have even been in such a position in the first place.
Lackluster? That was another thing the media was going crazy about he was literally the first person to act. He shut down the boarders and had suggestions from the cdc sent out to all the states on what they should do and allowed the states to individually decide how to act.
@Telekinetic-Potato once it hit, not before it did.
They were maiming the guy for doing it as early as he did. Lol I mean c'mon man
And my memory is a little foggy but wasn't it pretty unclear how bad this was going to be back then. I vaguely remember a general feeling of uncertainty about how serious this was going to be.
I remember very clearly though getting into an Uber and the guy had CNN playing on a tablet and he was tearing into Trump for shutting down the boarders this and all the businesses are closed that and he better get the people outside of the country back home that.
I use to thnk that politicians didn't like wars - until I realized that is part of how they get rich.
I also though Trum was going to lose the 2020 election. Sadly, he didn't.
I used to think Elizabeth Warren was a good person.
I was wrong about Tories in Great Britain being right-wing. They are centrist actually.
I thought politicians really had our best interest at heart
I once believed that not all liberals were insane... I was wrong.