Is it justified that audiences are encouraged to enjoy male actors taking their shirts off whilst it's called objectification when females undress?

[Anonymous]

Young male actors almost invariably have to take their shirts off or undress to underwear at some point for audience enjoyment, and possibly have to get undressed more than female actors nowadays.

Ogling women is now considered distasteful and problematic objectification at least to some extent, whereas it's seen as much less of a problem in the case of men.

Would you agree this is a fair response of the imbalance of power between men and women, particularly amongst producers and management in the entertainment industry? Or do you think it is a problematic double standard?

It is justified, ogling female actors is more problematic than ogling men because of the background of misogyny and sexist power imbalances in society

No, they are equally problematic

[MCheetah]

Anyone who says something like "ogling women is distasteful and problematic objectification" is an idiot I don't take seriously anyway. Not saying that necessarily applies to you, OP; unless you actually believe in this.

Neither one is a problem, no one is forcing actors or actresses to do this, and they get paid for it. So as long as they aren't doing this in kids movies or family entertainment for all ages, I do not care. People who believe sexuality and lust is inherently "bad or toxic" are clowns and idiots.

Besides; the "objectification" sh*t is just bullsh*t, anyway. It's only objectification if a man enjoys it or gets it for free; if a man doesn't enjoy it, it hurts him, or he has to pay big money for it, then it's "empowerment." This double standard is ALSO why these people are wastes of sperm and pants-on-head retards worth ignoring.

"Objectification" unless you pay $$$ to me; then it's "empowerment" and patriarchy-free!

And why do you sound like SubaruGirl in this post? This is how she types and thinks. Extra academic-like and Progressive leaning. The age says you're younger, though.

[Chazmatazz269]

Justified? Definitely not. It’s widely accepted that the female form is more appreciated than the male form, and has been throughout most of written human history. What you’re referencing is the puritanical belief system of female purity and abstinence compared to masculine virility. I suppose it’s justified in that narrow context, but there’s literally nothing else left of puritan standards in our culture. So it’s just another one of those ignorant hangovers.

[Anonymous]

To some extent it's part of the job for either gender. If a character is meant to be sexually attractive then the actor should appear that way.

But there are risks of both objectification and promoting unrealistic body types which damage people's confidence - again true for men and women.

But given all the pressures women face in society I do agree that these risks are greater in the case of females, and therefore that it is less problematic to get males to undress on screen. And then there's the simple fact that men are more comfortable undressing than women.

[Anonymous]

In theory it's somewhat of a double standard, but if you have a look at the real world implications, I think it's not as problematic to display shirtless guy versus women in scantily clad clothing, by looking at the following factors.

1) Security - I think women are at greater risk by showing of a lot of skin. Sure, women can act unjustly around shirtless guys too, but I don't think there's the same risk of physical harm.

2) Guys are usually more willing to do it

[RolandCuthbert]

I certainly do not enjoy actors taking their shirts off.

Nor do I encourage it. But if female actors want to get naked, I fully support their decision!

[Anonymous]

Most men don't mind being "objectified". We are just so sick of all the hate men get from women about us "objectifying" them. We're sick of the victimology of modern women. So we're just trying to point our your hypocrisy.

[AngryCarl]

I don't think any of it is problematic. People aren't always fully dressed in the privacy of their own home so it just reflects reality. Also I like to ogle.

[Dargil]

I am not encouraged to do that. I know what I like.

[Anonymous]

Women are complicated...

Are you saying you get too horny to think just from seeing a naked man?

[Anonymous]

Its a problematic doublestandard pushed by hypocrites who pretends to want equality while they actually just hate sexy females and normal straight guys

[Anonymous]

I tend to find these arguments heavily laced with hypocrisy on several levels.