Would you feel safer as a student if your teacher was licensed to carry and completed a gun safety course to be able to carry in the classroom?

[CAPTAIN-OBVIOUS]

Yes, I would feel safer.

No, I would feel less safe.

I don’t care. It’s their choice.

[exitseven]

I would feel safer. There are so many criminals walking around today that would kill you in a heartbeat. Having an armed and trained person in the room would make me feel safer.

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO😎

[Summeroflove]

Absolutely. It’s obviously that if there was a threat. Someone with a weapon could stop it

[Aerissa_Jade]

Sure, some of my teachers were no doubt armed, as it has been legal here for long time. Teachers or any staff or adult can conceal carry in a school and everyone knows it.

I could go to any public school and conceal carry and it is legal.

Legally, no one can ask them if they carry or not. Parents or principles have no legal right to ask who is carrying. No one has to answer it and state law prevents them from banning it on public property, thus schools.

The only place you cannot conceal carry, is federal courthouses.

While open carry is also legal, that is not legal on schools. Despite the fact that my dad took guns to school where they had gun safety classes and hunting clubs. Due to cry babies they discontinued those classes and clubs.

If your hunkered down in a class room, just waiting if an active shooter to come in, its better to at least have someone who can defend you, rather than just be in a turkey shoot with no where to run... hoping to play dead is your only savior. Only a fool would rely on playing dead.

The only unspoken rule to the conceal carry rule is, don't show it... if you let it show, you get in trouble.

I honestly can't believe some people would rather be in a class room, waiting for a shooter, that if/when they show up, your all dead... vs. Having a conceal carry person be able to at least try to save all your lives... guess those people would choose death over life.

[Soldieronamission]

I totally agree with all that you said except that I don't know of a state where it's legal to carry on school grounds unless you're police. Maybe a few have passed laws for teachers and staff to carry but not parents or anyone else not officially associated with the school.

[Aerissa_Jade]

@Soldieronamission There are several that allow it, unless some have changed to add or remove, as I don't keep up on much.

www.mcall.com/.../...ools-list-20181108-story.html

[Revvl6pro]

There are some really dumb people here. After all the kids are all dead, the libs will blame the cops for not getting there fast enough. But having licensed and well trained teachers to at least try and keep the kids alive, nope, they don't want that. You can't win. And now with the moronic defunding of cops, the libs want to remove cops from schools. Brilliant. And in that last Texas school shooting, the school had many doors that opened from the outside. And one was even propped open. Whoever propped that door open should be in prison. And the superintendent of the school district should be in prison. There should only be ONE entrance to the school, and there should be a heavily armed cop controlling it.

[Lionman95]

No most of my teachers in old school times were either old or not good learning names. If they had a gun the chance would have been high that they shot the wrong one.
Also at university most of teachers would probably rather risk getting fired than carry a weapon with them. A person carrying a weapon is for me rather a reason to avoid them.

[Red-Blaze]

A lot of my teachers had guns as well as many of the staff
But I live in Israel where we got a guard posted in the entrance to every school and all that, so may be a little diffrent
Will say over all had less fear knowing the guard and thd teachers and feeling they can be trusted to keep everyone safe

[Anonymous]

Americans are a funny lot.
You don’t trust your teacher to teach, and you insist that your parental rights gives you the right to micromanage the details of every school lesson.
But have no problem with those very same teachers carrying guns and trust they will protect your children?
The question is, do you trust your teachers, or do you not?

[Anonymous]

I've been given two guns one as a birthday present. I don't carry them or even touch then because I'm afraid of shooting myself or others accidentally. Now the teachers I remember at school I wouldn't trust with a toy gun let alone the real thing.

[Opinion Owner]

So no I wouldn't.

[msmissydc]

I had a teacher for a short time (he was quickly removed from beeing allowed to teach further) with anger managing issues. With a gun in his possession I would have been scared in his pressence.

[Soteris]

No. Police officers are trained much better and its basically their job to be trusted with firearms and I barely trust them. There is literally no reality where I would feel better with an armed teacher.

[MrOracle]

I used to be a shooting instructor, and I have "trained" many police officers. In my (admittedly limited) experience, perhaps 10% of police officers were shooters - people who regularly worked on their shooting skills, and were good - I would assault a school with them during an active shooting incident without hesitation. Another 30% were decent, and maybe went to the range 2 or 3 times a year on their own. The other 60% or so had ze interest in their gun or their skills and only practiced once a year, ahead of their annual qualifications. These officers were somewhere between lousy and outright unsafe - and the worst ones were always arrogant and power hungry too.

Those certainly aren't the odds I'd want to have shooting around kids. I suspect that teachers who took it upon themselves to be armed would be far more likely to be in the category that trained regularly (most teachers wouldn't carry even if they were allowed to), so I would definitely support that.

[Soteris]

@MrOracle Even if the Teacher WAS in the "right category", that does not really make the situation better.

First of all, the job of the teacher is to educate your kids. Giving them a gun to "protect" them messes with their primary job since not only do they now need to consider protecting them but they also need to be inherently suspicious of their own students in case someone of them on the off chance is a shooter. In other words, you are asking them to be mentally prepared to kill their own students at the drop of a hat. However you twist and turn that, its not mentally healthy for anyone involved and I can't see a teacher being able to dedicate themselves to teaching someone they are also in the bank of their mind of afraid of and thinking of how they would kill them if they became a threat.

Secondly, the presence of a gun, even when carried by a responsible and trained gun owner still poses a statistical risk. In other words, the gun itself becomes a realistic danger to everyone around even if it is not misused since both accidents and malicious actors exist. You are going to see a lot of news about how teachers accidentally shoots someone or how a student managed to steal a gun and accidentally killed their friend while playing around with them.

[Soteris]

@MrOracle
Thirdly, its not just shooting practice they need. They need skills and training that mirrors spec ops and swat teams to be actually effective. This takes time, money and not something that you can just juggle while being a full time teacher. Furthermore, what sort of person would gather all of these skills and responsibilities while still accepting a job as a teacher for that pathetic salary?

Lastly, its not like it would be very effective. The chances are not very high that they will have a gun ready in the slim chance they would need it. Furthermore, having a gun messes with your decision making and has caused more than one person who could save themselves by running away instead choose to move TOWARDS the gunman and try engage them only to be killed themselves. Not to mention that in the case you enter a gunfight with the gunman, its not like the gun gives you an advantage, it just EVENS the odds and its just a matter of chance who (if any) comes out alive.

There is no way I could see this work.

[MrOracle]

You need to watch less TV. 95% of the cops that will show up to one of these events will have none of the training you are talking about. And, again, I doubt that even 10% of teachers would carry, but it would still be enough to disuade most would be shooters, and enough to make it much harder for the few who went ahead.

Have you paid attention to the recent events? The police are often NOT doing their job, while parents - most of them unarmed, and going in and saving kids. The idea that the police are some big solution is a pipe dream.

[Soteris]

@MrOracle It would dissuade no shooter I know of. The problem with criminals is that they dont really consider the consequences. A thief for example dont think they will be caught so deterrents dont really work. This is a well known problem and one of the main reasons why raising the punishment of crimes such as implementing the death penalty never appears to work.. because it does not really work.

As for making it harder for the shooter, that is also not really persuasive. People who carry guns during shootings are never really ready to start with and even in the case where they can figure out the situation and attempt to respond its just as likely to cause a more chaotic situation than resolve it. After all, if you have a shooter in proximity to multiple people who carry guns its very easy for there to be misunderstandings and "friendly fire".

Chaotic situations are simply not a good place for people with weapons to be unless they are extremely professional. Spec ops and such are by far the best at these high speed and stressful scenarios where as police are meh and teachers would be, if anything, not much better than civilians.

I am not saying the police ARE doing their job, just that it IS their job and they have the training and resources to handle it if they are given the correct oversight and leadership (not to mention weeding out the bad cops).

[HighValue]

As a teacher, the answer is less safe. I have seen way too many irresponsible teachers and am sure some guns would end up in the hands of students due to the teacher's irresponsible actions.

[laraWM]

I would feel really worried about it and not safe at all

[CAPTAIN-OBVIOUS]

Think about if someone is a school shooter and now your teacher can defend you

[laraWM]

I should have told I'm not living in the US. I mean there is not really school shooter here

[CAPTAIN-OBVIOUS]

Where are you from

[laraWM]

Norway, nice country

[CAPTAIN-OBVIOUS]

USA is also a nice country. Just have a gun problem

[laraWM]

Yes true, I didn't want to mean it is not. I just like my country 😂

[laraWM]

The gun debate is not really easy to understand from here

[purplepoppy]

No. We get less than 3 murders a year in the entire county thanks to the fact fuckwits don't carry guns.

[OddBeMe]

1) feelings dont really matter. Actual safety does
2) more guns lead to more gun deaths. Period.
3) teachers are already overworked and underpaid. And you want to stack armed guard onto their list of priorities. That won’t end well.

[Anonymous]

What makes you think all teachers are mentally stable?

[CAPTAIN-OBVIOUS]

Based on stats, students say they want their teacher to have a gun to defend them in case of a shooter going in

[DizzyDesii]

Absolutely not. Plus The teachers are usually the crazy bullies

[Dargil]

I (if I were a student) would feel much safer.

[andreasderjuengere]

My teacher preferably is a person of wisdom - not of violence.

[Iron_Man]

What is she going to do with somebody with an assault rifle her holding a pistol?

[LiamJHayden]

No, just hire retired special forces as school security guards.

[Anonymous]

God no. I don't think I'd have made it through school if that were allowed back then

[melanieeeB]

Hell no, seems scary

[misogynistic_pig]

No.

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[Jamie05rhs]

Yes. I would.