Should the government provide free housing?

[Cherrylicious]

I personally believe that all natural living necessities should be free such as food, clothing, housing, education and Healthcare as humans were not asked to be born into this world but should not have to pay a price to live in this world and have to pay for things that we naturally need to survive especially food because without none of these things, we will not be able to function properly as human beings so I believe that is totally unfair for us to have to pay for these things that are not considered once or luxuries but more Necessities things that are considered important into this world. If these things were free I believe that there will be less homelessness, and less people dying from starvation and it will also want to motivate people to go to college to pursue their careers had education be free

I believe that the only things that should not be free is dine in restaurants, fast food restaurants entertainment and Recreation as these things are mostly considered once but if we were provided the necessities that we all need for free, then it will reduce poverty and homelessness.

[BigWhiteWolf87]

Hell NO.

The human gene pool has grown increasingly weak - less morals, more predominance of genetic diseases, more drug abuse and alcholism, etc. - over the generations because the government has supplied support to people that 100 years ago wouldn't have survived past their 40s. 200 years ago they'd be deceased by their 30s. 300 years ago they wouldn't have made it past 20.

To put it in another prespective

Humans have meddled in certain dog breeds - e. g. English Bulldog - by allowing an appearance that wouldn't exist (the breed looks nothing like it did) had been left alone. Today's appearance shouldn't have existed. But because humans supported a weak undesirable appearance, the English Bulldog nowdays is more or less a useless breed.

Nature is cruel and she is meant to remove the weaker link in any species gene pool to ensure the species' continued survival. Continually support weak links and the species will eventually bred itself into uselessness and then nonexistence. Humans included.

[Aerissa_Jade]

No, because the government can't even pay its own bills now. All that stuff being provided for would be in the hundreds of trillions of dollars... it simply isn't possible.

At the same time, if people get free stuff, then why would they want to work? If everything is free except going out to eat and recreation, I'd just stay home and not work anymore.

SO would almost everyone else, then no one would be building houses, or creating electricity or anything else we need to live.

The free market system is the best way to motivate people to do better, anyone can do better, all they have to do is try.

[monorprise]

Everything requires someone to labor to produce directly or indirectly and as such is a luxury afforded by said labor.

That includes first and foremost what you might call 'necessities' the providing of which still make up the majority of human economic activity even in this country, a much larger share in the rest of the world.

It may be true you didn't ask to be born, no living thing on Earth ever did. If you don't like life its almost impossible for us to force it upon you.

If you do like life, you will need to do what every living thing on earth before you did and work to sustain it.

[OlderAndWiser]

1. Nothing is "free." Someone must pay for it.

2. Who is supposed to provide these things for you?

3. Where is the money coming from?

4. If the answer involves tax dollars, why should I pay? I didn't ask for you to be brought into this world, either.

5. Should you also be required to pay tax dollars so someone else can get "free stuff?"

6. What is the problem with you-take-care-of-you and I'll-take-care-of-me?

[Gummy_Cluster]

In 100 years, everything will be free. People hate me for saying that, and call me lazy. That's kind of stupid of them, because I started working at age 10, and I'll never see the free stuff. Robots will replace all of our jobs, and that will be a blessing. Is there anyone here that would prefer to take their clothes down to the river and wash them, rather than having a machine do it? If you prefer the machine doing the work, does that make you lazy or smart?

Ah, but who will pay for it? The companies who employ robots will pay. So the goods you buy won't be free, but the money will be free. And in 300 years, there simply won't be money. Watch some of his many movies on YouTube. Times change whether you like it or not. (It's ridiculous that this video is age restricted) It's suitable for a five year old.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/xsJqPfUHhho

[BeMuse]

And those companies would give you free currency/resources why exactly? Why exactly would they even keep you alive if you're not serving some purpose? You'd just be a red line on their financial reports. It seems like it would just be simpler to kill you off than continue to provide you with resources. Occam's razor...

[Gummy_Cluster]

@BeMuse
There's a hundred videos about how this will work, and the top minds like Musk say it will happen.
You're not going to believe a word I say, so I refer you to the videos that can explain it better. So a company that manufactures cell phones, will kill all of their customers in order to save money?
And the company wouldn't give YOU free currency or resources, the government would. Companies already pay taxes, so when the robots take over, the companies would pay a much higher tax. How can they afford that? Because they don't need to pay robots. Robots don't go on maturity leave, ask for vacations, call in sick, expect benefits and they'll gladly work 24/7.

People find the concept of free money unfathomable. And yet we bail out banks, automotive companies, airlines, the post office, Amtrak... and we pay mothers to stay home and make babies.
Andrew Yang wanted to start a UBI if he was elected. My only criticism is that his plan was too abrupt. He wanted to give every citizen $1,000 per month. He should have made it one hundred per month, and kept increasing it over 10 years.

[BeMuse]

You never stopped to wounder how all those bail outs depreciated your currency like every failed empire in the history of human kind did you? You just assumed it actually worked and that inflation was magical and mysterious. You're videos have rotted your brain.

[Gummy_Cluster]

@BeMuse
Never reply to me again. I gave my opinion, and you felt the need to be an asshole.

[BeMuse]

Currency debasement has been going on for thousands of years. It always ends in failure and destruction of a civilization.

[BeMuse]

You're just dumb and emotional unstable.

[Gummy_Cluster]

@BeMuse

You're a slow learner, and now you're blocked.

[exitseven]

It is true that automation is getting more sophisticated and is replacing humans in a bigger variety of jobs. The reality is than many people will be put out of jobs and there will not be a need for as many people to support the infrastructure. There will be s few people at the top that will be wealthy and the rest will live in poverty.

[Gummy_Cluster]

@exitseven

This has been happening for over a hundred years. When I mention this, people get angry at me. I had to block a guy who said my brain was rotting. This isn't my idea. This is coming from the top minds in the world. I don't see how people can't understand this happening. When I first heard of self-driving semi-trucks, I called bullshit. How could AI negotiate the insane traffic in San Fran? Then I looked into it. The AI isn't going into the city. The AI will pull into a fueling station/truck stop outside the city, and a human will negotiate the insane San Fran traffic. Then the human will get it back on the highway, and AI will drive it to the next stop.
We sent a probe to Pluto, and it took nine years to get there, but it landed on Pluto. If we can do that, why are humans making pizzas? In Vancouver BC, they have a monorail system with no driver. In Seattle, they have a light rail system with no driver. In Bangkok, they have a state of the art subway system, with no driver.
I live in an apartment, and our laundry machines now work off of smartphones and Bluetooth. Times are changing, and they're changing fast. When I talk about this, people want to shoot the messenger. Shooting me isn't going to stop the robots from taking all the jobs.
If you're interested in this, go on YouTube and watch all the many videos.

You talked about the rich people at the top. How will they get rich? Where will the money come from?
It won't happen in our lifetimes, so I wouldn't worry about it.

[exitseven]

The problem with free stuff is that they are not really free Somebody has to pay for them. We are starting to live in a society where people think they do not have to work any more. The government will just print more money and create wealth out of thin air. This is not sustainable.

[Guffrus]

Why don't you do the numbers?

[FunkyMonkee]

It is for illegals!! Why can't I have it? I've lived here my entire life!! Do I have to go to Mexico, pretend to be from another country, cross the Rio Grande before I get all kinds of free stuff that I deserve a LOT more than they do? I have to bust ass and jump through ALL KINDS of hoops to get Medicare, etc., welfare, a job, food stamps, legal help, etc.. These fuckers just WALTZ THE FUCK IN and get it HANDED TO THEM on a silver platter and get BEGGED to take it!!

[midnightmoon05]

Yes… free just for you and those who feel entitle. We are already paying … so no difference.

I like to work for my own stuff.
love all the stuff I work hard to get and feels so proud of myself that I don’t relay on the govt or my parents.

[BeMuse]

Nope. Nothing is free. There would be no homes or food if people just waited on someone else to give it to them for free. There's no incentive to put in the hard work to build a home or grow crops if you think those things will be handed to you. If everyone is sitting around with their thumb up their ass like you stinky, then nothing gets done.

[BeMuse]

That's why communism always leads to slavery. When no one does anything because they have no incentive, then the authoritarian government has to use police power to force labor via threat of violence. You like being wiped to get you to build houses or grow crops? Is that what you want for you kids?

[BeMuse]

*whipped

[ChiTown33]

It's funny the city of Seattle has been experimenting with this I've read. While on principle I'm against handouts I guess they've had good results with it. I think it might be ok if you set benchmarks for these people to reach. I mean the goal is to inspire to get back on thier feet. Not just give them free s***.

[Likes2drive]

Housing should be reasonable, but nobody’s going to just give it to you because the government gets their money from working people that pay taxes so somebody has to pay for it, in China, which is a communist country. Still, the government gives out free land for people to build on with their own money and resources and you don’t have to pay taxes either.

[NewsReader]

Nothing is free. Everyone will suffer from this. It has been explained so many times already. You can also look at historic examples.

[Cherrylicious]

How will reducing poverty, homelessness and hunger make everyone "suffer" please elaborate.

[NewsReader]

Because everyone else will have to pay for it which brings them down. Plus, if people think they can get everything for free without working for it then the economy will collapse, there will be no contribution to society which leads to lack of resources. And no amount of money will save you from that. The only option would be to leave the country.

[Guffrus]

You haven't done the numbers.

[Guffrus]

@newsreader
Aimed at you to clarify.

[OddBeMe]

Not sure about “free”…but I agree generally. I think our capitalist system can inspire productivity. Like Habitat for Humanity doesn’t give away houses, at least not majority. They set up loans the family can afford.

[Guardian45]

I'm not sure what country you live in, but what you are suggesting is ONLY available in China or Russia to the best of my knowledge.

[KrakenAttackin]

Sooo... just how would you pay for all of this "free" stuff?

[Cherrylicious]

What you you mean?

[KrakenAttackin]

That's what I thought.

[midnightmoon05]

The scary part or the reality…most people think like her.

[Guffrus]

@KrakenAttackin

You haven't done the numbers.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Guffrus I don't need too.

[KrakenAttackin]

Let's pay 14 Trillion in "reparations" while we are at it. 😏😏😏

[Guffrus]

That's what I thought.

[Guffrus]

Just so you can understand how truly retarded you are:

Lets look at that reparations idea:

The claim is for 357,000 per 40 million people. Personally I think that figure is high, they state that the average networth of an African American is only 17k but for whites it is 170k, so how about we settle that instead, it seems like a reasonable compromise to me, so that would only be 6.12 trillion, not 14 trillion.

The US has about 160 million workers, so if they each put in some money each year for 100 years, not an unreasonable time scale for paying for historicial damages, after all you can't expect to pay for it all over night.

That would cost less than $400 per year, it could easily be achieved.

Note that I am not making any kind of argument one way or another about whether or not that should happen, I am simply pointing out to you that you do not have the first fucking clue what you are talking about and the reason that you don't is because you haven't bothered or are incapable of finding out and so you just parrot what your television told you to say.

and no @midnightmoon05 the scary part is that you don't realise what a fucking moron you are.

[strlb]

Yes, everything should be FREE! HAHAHA. Who the hell pays for it?

[Gummy_Cluster]

Not everything, but beer and pizza should be free.

[Cherrylicious]

I don't think alcohol should be free.

[Gummy_Cluster]

OK, then just the pizza.

[Guffrus]

@strlb

Why don't you do the numbers and find out?

[strlb]

@Guffrus numbers on what? It's not difficult to figure out

[NostalgiaSenpi]

No. I'm tired of all these god-damned hand outs.

[imfreeze95]

If they are veterans yes because they have suffered enough

[QuietRunner]

China does it

The Soviet Union did this before also. All the citizens were happy, well fed, and lived well

[Uannoyme]

And who would pay for all of it?

[douride2]

And who pays for all this free stuff?

[gorydetails]

You can have all that now. It’s called prison.

[Fromdusktilldawn]

They already do that here for immigrants

[Guy13]

No….

[Cherrylicious]

Why?

[Guy13]

The government is not your Mom. Get a job and rent or buy your own place. I know 19 year olds that room together in a 2 bedroom working four jobs between the two of them. They have no problem with the 1800 in rent.