What would you do to 'save' this kid?

[lightbulb27]

I say "save" meaning, recover his life so it isn't a waste. You see the problem, right?

You know the story, if not, here's a brief history:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/houston-teen-accused-paralyzing-woman-jugging-robbery-200000-bond-cut-half

* Pulled a gun on some people, $100 bond and released... stupid system!

* Attacked a woman stealing money, she's in traction now for a long time...

...

The woman, Nhung Truong, thankfully has family for support, but I can only imagine the support required. Look her up and help her out... you can do that by providing money, praying, helping others. After all... what do you do if you have to work, pay bills... and you are now paralyzed? This requires community support.

Do your homework, I believe this is the correct gofundme

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-my-mom-recover-from-spinal-cord-injury

... SAVING Him...

Here's the truth..."hurt people hurt people"! The young man, no matter how this goes... will be out of jail... that's our stupid system that bases decisions on "time" not "problem solved". Would you take your car to a mechanic, and he says..."took 5 hours... car released"! You ask, so the "so it's fixed right"? "No sir, spent time, send home... call us back if have more problem". WTF? That's what we do with messed up humans.

No you wouldn't, you'd lock up til fixed or dispose of that car because it's too far gone. So let's see your plan, since this is your world. My plan is he's immersed in God/Jesus Christ until his underlying emotional problems are resolved. Then he's retrained for job skills.. then F#$@#43ing released.

We gotta be smarter than this... could be you or me next...

Immerse in Christ/God, mentoring, with therapy until resolved, and retraining

Therapy, mediate, release

Firing squad [note this is not a real solution since no-one died].

Other idea

Don't need saved, you are the problem!

[Paul09]

Since when gas "praying" for anything? Actions do something, not "thoughts". We can not do much. Governments will always be corrupt. That kid deserves what he has done to others. Blame the parents. And the system.

[lightbulb27]

I agree with you in general, action is what matters, let's meet those parents. but prayer can engage the creative and come up with solutions, and maybe connect across the expanse... some scientists think so.
I didn't hear a solution. complaining is easy, solving... action. If fail to act, guarantee you... repeat with someone else. He will get out...

[Paul09]

There isn't much of a solution. Other than overtake the governments. They will always rule and ruin our lives. You can donate to a cause, bit how much will it help? We can protest, will it help , not really. Maybe if every single citizen joined. The Uber rich want us to fight each other. Sad world.

[lightbulb27]

I met a man whom was "saved" in prison, by a christian he'd met there, changed his life from crime to helping other prisoners. My answer is dispatch him to that prison. There are solutions.
You are right, if you rely on the "system"... he's screwed and so are we. We know our system is garbage, changing it is really hard.

[Paul09]

That would be a great idea , if it would work. I'm so curious how it has worked.

[lightbulb27]

the problem is broken hearts... often. that leads to bad energy.
If I can find his book I'll send it. There are prison "ministries" and from what I've seen, have some success. People have to be open to changing... which means being vulnerable, and that... is hard.
Othewrise, the system medicates them, traumatizes them in hopes that fear or the drug controls them.

[exitseven]

Put the little maggot behind bars for a few years. They need to bring back the 3 strikes law. When you get convicted of 3 violent felonies you don't get back out.

[ObscuredBeyond]

They got rid of it, because corrupt police abused it, planted evidence on non-re-offenders, then used it to put nonviolent non-re-offenders in jail for life. All while continuing to ignore this nonsense.

[exitseven]

@ObscuredBeyond too bad because now we have people that fave been reopening their whole lives and end up shooting somebody during an armed robbery.

[exitseven]

Reoffending*

[ObscuredBeyond]

Which is why they need to get rid of qualified immunity. If police are caught doctoring evidence in a case to put someone away for life, that needs to result in those officers facing the electric chair.

Also, we have to make it clear that three strikes applies to felonies, not misdemeanors. Putting someone in jail for life for failing to notice that a fraction of their candy bar wrapper fell on the ground, instead of going into the trash with the rest of it, then getting arrested for littering, is patent lunacy. But that's how many southern states roll.

[lightbulb27]

@ObscuredBeyond Valid points. I saw the case where the cop in New Orleans planted evidence and got busted for it. he should be shot, can shoot him in the leg andpatch it up, but needs to be pain. Maybe his sgt as well. I don't understand their motivations... maybe they are managed wrong.
not so sure about QE, but need to be held to the fire of truth.

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO😎

[ShadezMcgee]

Fuck this kid and the system. One bullet and a line of five guys will sort this problem out. He chose career criminal, that is all he will be. Don't waste money rehabbing this specimen who his mother failed to swallow that night.

[lightbulb27]

I'm fine with that. Problem is, it isn't real. The only option available is save him, or someone is going to have to kill him while in the act, police or citizen.

[ShadezMcgee]

What do you mean it isn't real? My choice in how it's handled?

Fine, have his ass get taken out in the act or by another punk like him. Either way, doesn't change the fact that this shitbag won't change.

[lightbulb27]

It isn't real in that the system in place will at most give him a few years, and then slack that off and maybe it's a year... who knows the number, but he will get out... whose gonna hire him? He will do the same thing without govt paying him off. The only option is attempted intervention.
He could get shot doing the crime again, and that's probable, but will do plenty of damage in the meantime, maybe ruin a cops life, maybe a few citizens.
Most people don't want to change, it's a hard sell at that age. Some will. I've seen some change.

[Lliam]

I wouldn't save him. I would destroy him but leave him alive like his paralyzed victim. Let his low life family deal with THAT.

[lightbulb27]

I get ya, eye for an eye. That's possibly more expensive... given society will pay for him.

[Lliam]

More expensive than prison? Maybe. But I would recommend giving him the most marginal care in a low-level care facility.
Also, I wasn't talking about having the government injure him. I'd like someone to fuck people like him up painfully and permanently. It sucks that the government would consider THAT a violent crime. I would call it justice, and it would save tax money.

[lightbulb27]

Yes, pain and fear is a teacher to condition and that is a huge reason we have these problems. Schools are not allowed to use pain.. paddle, discipline... can't even us negative's, only positives.
There used to be a "scared straight", maybe that didn't work.

[Lliam]

I'm not an advocate of using fear and coercion as a means of compliance. But when someone goes rogue and physically harms innocent people in such a violent manner, I just think they need to be removed from the gene pool. Fuck rehabilitation.

[lightbulb27]

the 17yr old firing squad is the military/war. No chance it happens in our society to execute him especially when noone dies. Thus we are left with other options.

[Lliam]

His life has zero value. A lifetime of helpless suffering is what deserves. Let him pray to God for it to end. He doesn't even deserve a marker once he's dead. He was dog shit.

[Anonymous]

Well he’s Black so I’m sure the Democrats already have a scholarship for him to go to Yale all lined up.

[lightbulb27]

maybe, they'll cut his sentence, feel bad that he's a victim of societies ills and history of oppression, turn him loose with some money in short time.

[ObscuredBeyond]

Snip his spine. Make him a paraplegic. May he hear himself be sentenced to that by the judge. #LetThemShriek

[NostalgiaSenpi]

I wouldn't. Degenerates belong on the cross.

[lightbulb27]

Jesus set some of those free one day. Granted, it's hard to turn people around whom are corrupt.