Why do we now praise and promote ugliness, ineptitude, stupidity, mental illness and so on?

[Siri137]

By "we" I don't mean anyone here in particular of course. I mean society, the media, and certain well-known individuals like "celebrities" and self-proclaimed experts.

If you happen to have autism or ADD, you're not "neurodiverse", you're handicapped. If you're obese, you're not "gravitationally-challenged", you're FAT (and need to lose weight). If you're confused about your gender you're not whatever it is you "identify" as, you're delusional and need to see a psychiatrist.

Whatever happened to shame, acknowledging one's mistakes, recognising one's own deficiencies, and trying to be the best that one can be, and not the worst? Whatever happened to self-respect and basic common sense?

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By the way, I myself unfortunately have Asperger's Syndrome, and I sincerely wish I did NOT! It is an unbelievably debilitating condition to have, because it affects everything, but particularly one's ability to find friends, form relationships, find employment and generally function like a normal human being within society. I look forward to the day when a cure is found, and hopefully that will be soon. :)

[inhua]

it's not that society promotes this stuff overall for the entire population but it's specifically targeted towards certain identities.

if you happen to be straight or white or male or a combination of some of these identities, you ain't allowed to have any of this.

white guy commits a crime, he's a dangerous white supremacist/incel/neo-nazi
minority guy commits a crime, he's just a victim of systemic racism

Lizzo = big beautiful plus size model. Jonah Hill = fat disgusting slob.

understandably there are limitations to this. not every man out there is gonna become Elon Musk or Channing Tatum or Michael Jordan just like not every woman out there is gonna become Kendall Jenner

[Siri137]

Why would anyone want to be Kendall Jenner?

[inhua]

I was using an example of a visually attractive woman

too many women these days believe they need to look like a Kardashian or a VS model or an IG model to attractive high quality guys so much so that those who can't reach the standard no matter how hard they try would rather try to destroy societal "beauty" standards via the body positivity/fat acceptance movement

personality-wise I don't believe any woman should aspire to be like Kendall Jenner

[AaronKrieger]

People tend to not want to feel belittled in this age of wokeness, but it also depends on what you are talking about. Something like being fat is black and white, but autism/ADD is a spectrum, so being labeled as 'handicapped' isn't always accurate.

For me, I have ADD and I don't consider myself handicapped. Sure, I need to be medicated for certain shit or else I'll have a serious problem like driving. However, those said handicaps where medication is required aren't common enough that I do think it fits the label. It would just be insulting to people who have it way worse.

I would feel like I am exaggerating things if I were to call myself that. It's the same reason why I would never call myself a 'victim' or 'survivor' of any trauma from my life. It'd seem so attention-seeking for pity or self-pitying.

[Siri137]

Actually, being fat is a spectrum, because there are varying degrees to it, but autism is something you either have or don't. If you really are a victim of something, admitting as much isn't "attention-seeking"; it's just acknowledging reality.

[AaronKrieger]

Those said varying degrees are rather straight forward and not complicated, so it's not that much of a spectrum. You also can identity it rather fast, but autism is way more of a spectrum. You cannot always diagnose it right away, since it impacts everyone differently. You'll find high and low functioning autists, which can dictate whether you are handicapped or not.

As for the calling yourself a victim, I think it definitely can be attention-seeking. Often how people describe themselves is a reflection of how they view themself or want to be seen. At the end of the day, it's just how I feel and it is what it is.

[LazerBean]

Because liberals need their vote, and the sad reality is that all those things are becoming common. It's not politically correct to criticize someone for something that most everyone else is also doing.

[KostasKouvalis]

Yeah, someone on here used the term "neurodiverse" and I was like, WTF is this?
Haven't heard the "gravitationally challenged" one, but that's honestly funny as hell😂
I actually agree with everything you said. Society has become too tollarant. I'm not necessarily saying we should shame or bully these people, but we certainly shouldn't encourage it. It's good to have standards or incentives. And I certainly thing we need to start addressing these things as what they are.

It's funny that they shame exhibitionists and nudists, yet promote trannies and fatasses.

I've had many women tell me they find me unappealing because of my weight, and I honestly don't even get offended, because I agree with them.

I'm pretty certain there's no cure for Asperger's aside from not breeding.

[Siri137]

"Gravitationally challenged" - I just made that one up as I was typing this, but my point there was that we shouldn't make excuses for laziness and lack of discipline. It doesn't take much to do a little bit of exercise (like going for a walk) and not stuffing one's face with food all the time.

[Siri137]

"I'm pretty certain there's no cure for Asperger's aside from not breeding."
Unless the condition isn't actually hereditary, and I don't think it is. I'd be willing to bet the cause is primarily environmental. The condition itself can manifest in many different ways, and I think that fact on its own points to something beyond a simply explanation like genetics.

[KostasKouvalis]

I know, but I'm gonna start using that now. You should patent that😂

You think so?

[Siri137]

It won't be long now before the "woke" start saying it. "I'm not fat! I'm gravitationally challenged!" :D

[worldscolide]

Rampant leftism.. Which is a mental illness by its self.

[exitseven]

Because liberals are having their run.

[mommymommymommy]

Just look at who we elected 45

[Siri137]

40 to 44 weren't very good either.

[mommymommymommy]

44 was good, 43 wasn't, 42 was, 41 was, 40 wasn't

Goes back and forth

[NYCQuestions1976]

44 wasted billions of tax dollars on Solyndra, embraced Cuba, and signed unconstitutional healthcare into law (which was rightfully struck down). So no, 44 wasn't good.

[mommymommymommy]

@NYCQuestions1976 44, was awesome, you just don't like it, because well, you're a republican

[NYCQuestions1976]

@mommymommymommy I'm actually not a Republican. I'm just stating factual reality. 44 also did nothing when the Diet Soviet Union invaded and annexed Crimea from the Ukraine in February 2014, and didn't do enough when Assad was using chemical weapons against his own people in Syria. So again, 44 wasn't good. You just don't like it, because well, you're not dealing in actual reality.

[mommymommymommy]

@NYCQuestions1976 Also, i love how you say you're "anti cuba", then claim you're "American" by saying he did something unconstitutional

The only reason you hate cuba, is because it's "socialist", right? A RUSSIAN THING

You're a commy

[NYCQuestions1976]

@mommymommymommy Communist? Me? That's laughable.

President Obama's unconstitutional act was signing the Affordable Care Act into law. You can't force young healthy people to buy health insurance against their will at blown-up rates so other people can get health insurance for a reduced rate or for free. That's a form of socialism.

Attempting to normalize relations with Cuba wasn't unconstitutional. It was just stupid.

[mommymommymommy]

@NYCQuestions1976 You're a commy

[NYCQuestions1976]

@mommymommymommy You must be looking in a mirror.

[mommymommymommy]

@NYCQuestions1976 Not at all

[NYCQuestions1976]

@mommymommymommy The only reasonable and logical conclusion is that you're talking about yourself.

[mommymommymommy]

@NYCQuestions1976 nope, thatd be you

[NYCQuestions1976]

@mommymommymommy Not only are you talking about yourself, but you also maneuver through the English language like a moronic drooling balloon-headed fool.

[mommymommymommy]

@NYCQuestions1976 Projection at its finest

[NYCQuestions1976]

@mommymommymommy You're the one who posted 44 was good, which puts you far closer to being a communist than I'll ever be. At least when you referred to me as a Republican, you were somewhat close. Again, you just don't like that I pointed out the factual reality that 44 actually wasn't good at all (for all of the reasons I posted above), and you have no real argument against what I posted to present, so you're just lashing out. It's very entertaining.

[mommymommymommy]

@NYCQuestions1976 PROJECTION

[NYCQuestions1976]

@mommymommymommy That's not a coherent argument or response. Just take the L like an adult.

[mommymommymommy]

@NYCQuestions1976 Like i said, this is all projection for you

[mommymommymommy]

@NYCQuestions1976 Honestly, you're boring me now. So, bye

QA, F off

[Anonymous]

Because liberalism / wokeness

[Anonymous]

I do it for the "lulz".