And if only half of the religious institutions used their resources to help only 2 homeless people there would not be any more homeless people to help.
Actions speak louder than thoughts and prayers.
And if only half of the religious institutions used their resources to help only 2 homeless people there would not be any more homeless people to help.
Actions speak louder than thoughts and prayers.
first of all you wrote ftom secular perspective that prayer is weak or worthless, but for those churches prayer is "godly power and mighty-ness".
2, church leaders can't pressure people not planning adoption to adopt, but they can and do donate to orphanages.
3 why not blame "businesses" u. s. has millions, if businesses would "join" in groups to help homeless using some of profits etc. this "question" just attempt to make religious "look ugly" when did not harm anybody.
I'm not blaming anyone ☺️ it's just a comparison of nunbers
Actions do speak larger than words. Who do you think runs all the soup kitchens and homeless shelters as we as providing pastrol care in the community, educational programmes, ambulance services, help for the elderly, help for single mothers, clothes for the needy, food banks, sports for kids, music programmes etc. Much like the resources of most churches it all depends of voluntary monetary donations and volunteers to put in their time. Perhaps grab a laddle at your local soup kitchen to see what I'm talking about. It's no coincidence that the vast majority of volunteer charity workers are Christian.
https://youtu.be/Z6Z3CFBVmUcto irish, exactly, despite church is non profit and non government fund in u. s. in contrast to businesses who could use profits like bill gates foudation, not just one but many businesses.
@strateguy632 a lot of these billionaire foundations are just ways of either hiding money or writing tax off.
This is only if the people are ok taking the child in which isn't happening today so wouldn't matter if church helped or not. And homeless choose to be homeless. They're not minor they can deal with their life themselves.
Wow, that is striking. I know some that find homes for many, but usually internationals. Striking statistic. It is true churches are not functioning to the level of decades ago... when people would take in kids, feed the poor, etc.. Most turned inwards to just try to build some people.
We lack leaders.
I've felt a pull to adopt but it's a scary endeavor at my age, so far, haven't stepped up.
maybe these things need more support/promotion in society, success stories... to provide safety. I've looked at lists of kids to adopt, but I think too much rather than doing.
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It’s easy to assume this is feasible but most churches are quite small and not equipped to care for foster children or homeless people. There are expensive regulations that must be met just to feed homeless people in some states and certainly to house and place children. Larger denominations often do have services (like Catholic Charities) that do what you are suggesting churches should do. Furthermore, churchgoers pay taxes that fund public social services. This takes resources that used to go to local community chests or church-run charities. Imagine if people asked things like “Why don’t every 50 irreligious people house 2 children and feed 2 homeless people?” The response would be they pay their taxes.
to real, i agree with you and very well presented. especially considering churches are non profit and non government funded here, in contrast to france and israel
I do give to the homeless. A lot of them should be working instead of just begging for money. I don't mean getting a job but some homeless stand at red lights with a bucket of water and a squeegee offering to wash your windows. Those will always get something from me because they are not looking for something for nothing. The elderly will get something from me too. But don't blame the religious for the homelessness. Homelessness is growing from all those crossing our boarders illegally so that they can not get a green card and go to work. That is on our president...
It's not blaming just highlighting what they could actually do if they worked together.
Individual people tend to not have the resources that an entire religious institution has
Religious entities run shelters and have to kick some out occasionally because they won't follow the rules. Other places like salvation army ask for their room and board the people work in their stores of do other jobs that they have for them and yet some homeless will not do those simple things to have a place to stay and food to eat.
to naw, exactly "give a man a fish ot teach to fish."
to sma, content together, the irreligious can also "together" as he wrote fifty, individuals but nobody expected them nor businesses to give profits for homeless etc.
furthermore, those irreligious lack the guidance to even think about orphans and poor in contrast to "bible thumbers".
That's why children are parentless and homeless are still in the streets. Churches and religious institutions spend more time building their countries and cities into holy land paradises then help foster children and homeless. Take a look at these images 😐



That would require actual work rather than wishful thinking and most religious people don't want to do actual charity work.
That's unfortunately true. But neither does the government care. And who is more influential? @Smashingdoozy I'm sure you're aware, of the type of care that religious people offer. I'm sure that if you were offered, you'd rather be homeless than live in a church lol. Yet the churches are just a bunch of people who don't pull your taxes, unlike the government. It is the government who should give back what they're taking.
@Comfort_Cave this is more to just highlight that religious institutions can actually do more than thoughts and prayers. Very easily.
No shit. Also all the consumerism is just gross, I have seen people rather buy their children expensive church clothes than provide them with medical needs, saying they can't afford, and it's just beyond fucked up.
to jux, and com, content true remember soup kitchens? who do you think runs and volunteers there?
@strateguy632 people lol. There are thousands upon thousands of soup kitchens and also charities that are completely secular.
Children in foster care are wards of the state. You can’t just “find them a home” and remove them from system. …but most churches (at least in my experience—my part of the world) have some support programs for foster care givers.
Can find them a safe home though. Better group homes. Homes that aren't run by absolute assholes. I was in the system 4/6 of the homes in was in were abusive. And it's not changed much since.
That's true, in the end not every religious person or someone who always goes to church means he or she are good people...
There are some people who have faith in god and rarely go to church but you see them doing jesus's teachings a lot more than the religious ones...
It depends on every person, how they think, feel and they way of their upbringing in this life...
This is so beautiful dizzy you have to make it you life mission to make this work
You could get people through donations through apps through businesses donate to your cause this is really a beautiful thing
they are busy spending their tax free dollars on mansions, property and private jets. ain't nobody got time for charity.
thats a lie, look how many irresponsible people keep fucking, until they make leaving kids for adoption illegal, the numbers will keep growing lol
I don't think you understand how the foster system works but ok.
i dont, whenever i take the time to realize how it does will most likely mean i plan on abandoning a child, how do you expect these movements to be funded cause unless you have a plan where everyone donates and works together and somehow raises enough money to feed and care for these children until they find homes, there's only so much churches can do, they gotta be wealthy churches which if im not mistaken most are small churches and they wouldn't be able to fund these movements.
Can you source the math or how this is concluded? I'm super into understanding that. Thank you
Number of churches vs children in foster care
And number of churches vs homeless people.
Per state the one that would need to help the most children is Nevada at 2.3 children per church.
I meant do you have a link that shows those numbers? Or did you just Google total number of each? My bad I'm tired and can't keep my eyes open haha
There is no link it was a post I saw in passing sorry!
All good thanks
Yeah fuck no, let's not leave children in the care of the church.
All the rape aside, I also have a personal anecdote from my family where what would be uncles/aunts were literally stolen by the church as children.
There are a lot of churches apparently , I know that they could do better.
There's definitely a lot of churches. More than there is children needing homes... Which is over 390 thousand.
@Smashingdoozy. I bet half of them are just running some kind of tax scam
What's really sad is that I see the little local churches doing whatever they can to help the homeless and others in need while a lot of the large churches do next to nothing.
If you view that as wrong, then what sort of charities or institutions have you donated to to help house those people?
Oh wait, you haven't? Thats weird. I suppose the luxuries you've bought for yourself were more important.
I actually actively donate to a number of charities thanks though 😊
I'm not convinced, and in order for you not to be hypocritical, those charities would specifically need to house children in foster care.
Dude I was in foster care for 12 years. I volunteer as a mentor for foster kids. Stop projecting your own faults onto me.
Yeah, maybe you have, maybe you haven't. Maybe I'm a billionaire. But the point still stands, you don't like the way the church spends their money, I don't like the way you spend your money. Why is the church deserving of ridicule, but you are not? You think the church should spend their money to house children in need. Why do you think dying your hair is more important then providing that money to a charity that houses children in need?
The answer is because you think you should spend your money the way you see fit, just like the church does. You're a capitalist, just like the church is. You are willingly spending your money on luxuries while you know there are people out there who need that money more than you do.
Yeah the $15 in hair dye is really going to make a difference 🥴
You've only died your hair once? And that's the only luxury you've ever purchased?
Go tell the atheist organization like yourself to help them since y'all are all such "humanitarians"
Lead by example.
I am. Individual people don't have the same resources as groups which is why I'm a part of a mentor program.
No, but if you hum a few bars, I can fake it.
The church I grew up in has all kinds of homeless services. Or used to; it has shrunk to almost nothing.
Religious people are too hypocritical and greedy for that to ever happen.
VERY so naive reply believing the asker instead of thinking of soup kitchens...
Lmao. How many billions has California spent to end homelessness?
Homeless shelters won't take you if you're high on meth, so that's why they choose tents.
They are not going to do that - no money in it for them
So you don't know how foster care works, got it.
Oh I'm very aware of how it works considering I was in it for 12 years.
to laz, precisely a flawless come back. i agree with you.
That would be a miracle if it would happen
No but its an interesting fact
Fair point.
Reported.
For? Telling the truth?
You’re being racist against religious people. You’re basically calling us useless
That's not racism for one... Secondly I'm highlighting a solution to a problem
It’s Christianity phobic.
Yet Christianity isn't the only religion in the country 🤷🏻♀️
We are the main religion
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