Why do crazy people hate Israel? Is it because they are living in 1935 and hate Jews or because Israel is the only moral nation in the Middle East?

[RingOfFire]

[lightbulb27]

Because their ancestor father and mother kicked out the woman he got pregnant, she sufferred terribly, passed on that misery to her children... and they've never reconciled. Isrealites have been a thorn in their side and they can't stand them.

Isreal was reinserted into an area they were cast out of... that's the source of today's conflict.

No different than other family squabbles, and all feeds off their religion... "The knowledge of good and evil".

[strateguy632]

you can't blame children for a father crime. they didn't do it. if your father parked in handicap you pay the punishment fine?
the source of today conflict is "hammas wants no israel" and people here in g. a. g. write the same terrorist idea. i got a screenshot but can't in reply.

[TadCurious]

A big part of the answer is that Israel is a very successful and prosperous nation in the heart of the Muslim world. Conversely most Islamic countries are dysfunctional and less advanced.

[RingOfFire]

Good point and exactly right. The Muslim dictatorships surrounding Israel want Israel destroyed for the same reason the American political left wants America destroyed... because free market capitalism and liberty for the people makes their communist dictatorship look like a horror show.

[strateguy632]

you skip the cause. muslims follow the muslim holy book which says... i can't say but you know.

[RingOfFire]

Yes that is true. But there is another aspect to @TadCurious's point too.

When Israel acquired the land it owns and was granted statehood by the League of Nations, the land was a barren desert that no one wanted. It was a nomadic piece of land that was Israel bought from Palestinian land owners, Egypt and others almost uninhabitable.

Israel then turned into a beautiful oasis in the dessert after years of investment and a strategic plan to make it a world class tourist attraction and place to live. Then, suddenly all the people who sold it wanted it back and they attacked Israel to steal it. But so far, after 75 years of attacks, they have failed in their attempt to steal Israel's land AND to complete a genocide against the Jews. They are LIVID that they are such a failure while the tiny population of Israel is such a world class success.

So this point is SPOT ON.

[SexyBrunetteNY]

They are brainwashed morons, simple. But don't forget, lots of people want to be PC and they talk s**t, but you don't see them going to live in Gaza and be with Hamas. Talk is cheap, if they love the terrorists, go move there and be with them.

[RingOfFire]

Amen Sista! 👍

[SexyBrunetteNY]

Seriously, this one actor posted some crap "Happy Indigenous People Day" on Twitter/X. I called him out, hey, did you give the Indigenous people any of your own fortune to make it up to them? Or are you just sitting there posting (free, cheap and easy) damn hypocrites. Walk the walk, because only your actions tell the tale of how you really feel.

[RingOfFire]

It's virtue signaling... one of the personality traits I find most repulsive. These people are such fakes. They love to publicly signal to everyone how much more virtuous they are than the rest of us but in private they are the worst offenders. Makes me ill to listen to that claptrap. The Democrats are the champions of that repulsive behavior.

[Chayce]

You’re ridiculous. How many bodies do you think the IDF stacked with their US - backed armament?

[SexyBrunetteNY]

Yes, again, they're ALL talk. And their voters are so blind. They bitched for DECADES about women's rights, gay rights, minorities, etc., but they've thrown them all under the bus for the trans crowd.

[RingOfFire]

@SexyBrunetteNY
👍

[RingOfFire]

"How many bodies do you think the IDF stacked with their US - backed armament?"

So far I hear the count is about 1,500 of the barbarians who invaded Israel this week. If you are saying that isn't even close to enough, I agree! GO ISRAEL! 👍 NEVER AGAIN!

[Chayce]

@RingOfFire how did they Invade Israel when they were already there

[RingOfFire]

@Chayce I'm going to guess that you are suggesting that the barbarians who invaded across the Israeli border this week and committed the worst religious execution of Jewish people since the Holocaust intentionally targeting civilians and inflicting barbaric acts on them were entitled to do so because it was there land?

If so my suggestion is that you learn your history. Between the 1800s and the 1940s Israel LEGALLY BOUGHT the land it is on today from Palestinian and other land owners there (including the Egyptians). It was a barren desert and the sellers were happy to get rid of it. EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO STILL LIVED THERE, including about 700,000 Palestinians, were ENCOURAGED TO STAY. But they didnd't for two reasons. They HATED JEWS and didn't want to live in the same place AND they were being told by surrounding Arab countries not to worry and to leave and they would WIPE OUT the Jews so they could return. So most of them left thinking it would only be temporary. Then in 1948 the League of Nations (the forerunner of the United Nations) granted Israel LEGAL nation status AND ISRAEL WAS IMMEDIATELY ATTACKED BY ITS MUSLIM NEIGHBORS. They were SHOKED when the tiny new nation of Israel DEFEATED THEM ALL AND PUSHED THEM BACK. The Palestinians left VOLUNTARILY. The tale you are implying is complete BULLSHIT. Read the real history. You leave under those conditions and you are NEVER coming back. To damn bad!

[Agape93]

Mix of just anti semitism, and believing the stupid propaganda from Palestine.

[DryGermanGuy]

... plus getting their information from Facialbook, YouTube and 4chan. :-(

[Agape93]

Yeah.

Also facialbook sounds like a great spoof site

[JackCarter]

I don't hate them
They are another Anti Terror nation like us I believe

[RingOfFire]

That's because you are not one of the crazy people!

[JackCarter]

Yep!
Got to give it to them for being badasses despite having terrible neighbors all around

[JackCarter]

Same with India , they have to deal with China and Pakistan up north

[RingOfFire]

I'll put it this way... next to the US military the last military on earth I would want to see if I was their enemy is the Israeli military. I know a few guys who are in it and badass isn't a strong enough word for it. These are great people. But they have had thousands of years of history of being the most persecuted people on the planet and they are NOT going to take it anymore. When Israel became a Jewish state, they drew the line in the sand. And God help anyone who crosses it. They ask for nothing more than to live in peace. If you can't give them even that, you will not be happy with the consequences.

[JackCarter]

Nice analysis

[davado88]

its hardly the same, jack. India and or china haven't been given power to rule this world by god.
check it in a bible.
we are dealing with the synagogue of satan. So theyre diabolically deceitful.
given the power to rule the world until it ends
doesn't hurt to use your brain in such a situation

[JackCarter]

@davado88 Wait what?

[davado88]

jews are mentioned as being rulers of the world in end times They are the synagogue of satan.
God grants jews this power for whatever reason. Its pretty clear as bible prophecy goes. , check for yourself,
Or use reason instead if lazy.
jews dont get baptised or believe jesus is the messiah.
Which means theyre going to hell after they die

[gorydetails]

I don't hate them. But calling them the "only moral nation in the middle east" is a bit of a stretch. They're not saints by any measure. Even recently there are videos surfacing of Israeli citizens spitting on Christians living and visiting Israel.

[RingOfFire]

There are idiots in every country. But they don't represent the government, spirit or culture of Israel. I know quite a few people there including Christians, Muslims and Jews. And all of them live in absolute freedom to practice their religions with zero persecution from their government. Can you name another Middle Eastern country where that is true? No one EVER talks about the more than a million Jews who were murdered, their homes stolen and expelled from the Arab and Persian Muslim countries there after living there for thousands of years. Why not?

[RingOfFire]

PS, I can't in my wildest dreams imagine a Jewish person spitting on a Christian for any reason at all let along for religious reasons. It is completely incompatible with the teachings of their religion and their deeply seated moral values. Maybe it was a Muslim citizen of Israel. That is plausible because they have a different moral code.

[gorydetails]

www.cnn.com/.../index.html

It's right here. And I understand your point, but to pretend the country of Israel is squeaky clean borders on propaganda.

[RingOfFire]

And I'll tell you what... if I was the most persecuted people in the history of the world, and surrounded and outnumbered 1,000 to one by people who chanted death to my country on a daily basis and launched thousands of rockets into civilian residential areas, I wouldn't be a perfect angel either.

I'm just sick and tired of this need to draw some kind of moral equivalency between Israel and those who are trying to destroy it. There IS none. Why even bother mentioning a few infractions by some tiny group of people who happen to live there when it is the official policy of Israel's enemies to terrorize and destroy Israel and wipe it off the map? It's not even worth mentioning because it gives support to the FALSE notion that there is ANY kind of moral equivalence at all between the two.

[RingOfFire]

Spend 0.00001% (not even enough time for one sentence) of the discussion time on Israel's transgressions and the rest on their enemies transgressions and I think you will have the proportions about right.

The media already spends just the opposite proportions of time on these. So there is ZERO need just to repeat what is already blasted all over the media. What we need is more of the TRUTH.

[gorydetails]

@RingOfFire So we're clear, your opinion is that the Palestinian people have no list of grievances with how they are treated by Israel?

[SexyBrunetteNY]

Okay, so if you spat on someone at some point for some reason, would we say that you deserved to be attacked/raped/beheaded/killed by Hamas? They're far more moral than those surrounding them.

[gorydetails]

@SexyBrunetteNY Spat? You're conflating two issues. So - was it morally just for Israel to murder children because Hamas murdered Israeli children? Do you think the parents of both children feel the other set of parents were justified in their actions?

[SexyBrunetteNY]

They call it f**k around and find out. Until the Palestinian people rise up against Hamas and terrorism, this how they will live. You can't vote these monsters in or accept their 'leadership' and expect different. Long story. You can't support terrorism and expect to live in peace. Honestly, I have NO idea why any sane person would stay and live under Hamas.

[gorydetails]

@SexyBrunetteNY If you were a parent in Gaza whose child was just killed in an Israeli airstrike, how would you be feeling right now?

[RingOfFire]

@SexyBrunetteNY

Make no mistake. The Palestinians ELECTED Hamas to be in charge of Gaza. They CHOSE them to commit these atrocities on their behalf.

[gorydetails]

@RingOfFire my understanding is that there has not been an election since 2005-2006 timeframe. So it's not really accurate to claim that Hamas was elected. Yeah, 19 years ago. Which is the average age of a Palestinian.

[SexyBrunetteNY]

Well, they are oppressed by these monsters then and they need change in order to live a better life.

[RingOfFire]

@SexyBrunetteNY

That's just it. The "Palestinian People" will NEVER rise up against terrorism against Israel because they want every Israeli DEAD. That's exactly why the CHOSE Hamas as their army to achieve that goal.

[gorydetails]

@SexyBrunetteNY If your child was blown up by an Israeli missile, you'd probably not blame Hamas.

[SexyBrunetteNY]

if I lived in Gaza in the aftermath of a Hamas attack against Israel, I would. They know the truth.

[gorydetails]

@SexyBrunetteNY I think you're bullshitting.

[SexyBrunetteNY]

Bullshitting about WHAT?

[davado88]

why not? ill tell you why not @RingOfFire - my milkshakes bring all the boys to my yard, theyre like that. yar. i could teach you but id have to charge, my milkshakes. mymilkshakes

[gorydetails]

@SexyBrunetteNY about you being in Gaza, having a child killed an Israeli air strike then just go 🤷‍♀️that’s what I get for voting for hamas.

[SexyBrunetteNY]

That is what they get for voting for Hamas - will they ever learn? People are making CHOICES and if not, then they are oppressed and need to be freed. I am NOT in Gaza, and I think if the people there want to live in peace, they should relocate.

I stopped liking NY and so I left. Again, people make choices.

[RingOfFire]

If you learn the history you learn that Palestinians hate Jews. That is why they left the area previously called Palestine (it was never a country, just an area in the desert). They left because when Jews bought the land and the international community legally pronounced them a sovereign country, they hated Jews so much that they didn't want to live with them even though the Jews ENCOURAGED them to stay and be part of the country. The rest of the Arab Muslims told the Palestinians to leave so that they could attack Israel and wipe out the Jews... they said the Palestinians could come back and the Jews would be gone. They thought they only were leaving temporarily. And in 1948 the moment Israel became a legal country all of Israel's surrounding Arab countries attacked them. But they were shocked when the Israelis outnumbered 100 to 1 KICKED THEIR ASSES and they retreated.

Then the Palestinians demanded the right to come back and the Israelis naturally told them to get f'cked.

PS now none of those Arab countries have been willing to take in the Palestinians. They want them to be stuck in Israel's border to attack them.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

Second option for me!

Is the moust civilizated nation from all of them.

[RingOfFire]

Right you are my friend. I am so sick and tired that this is even considered debatable.

Support Israel! Let's hope they do what they need to do this time and ignore the evil world that tries to stop them!

[RingOfFire]

PS: Your look reminds me of The Beatles! (that's a compliment... they were groundbreakers)

[Alexandrubaschet08]

Gaza have no chance to win.
My country accept bothe Israel and Palestine but as long Palestine is behaving like this i whant them deleted from the map of the world.
Me i suport only Israel

[Alexandrubaschet08]

Thanks, i know they had been big. But not a fan of them.
But i like anyway your compliment

[RingOfFire]

Thanks brother. 👍

[Anonymous]

Liberals so they are anti-Semitics as they have been since time immemorial

[RingOfFire]

You got that right. The left (Democrats in America) are rabid anti-Semites. They refuse to condemn those in their party who blatantly shout their anti-Semitic garbage day and night. Those people are bound for hell.

[Berethor]

They say that they hate "only" Israel but they hate Jews.

[Raaj4you]

No, I don't hate Israel. As an Indian, as a Hindu I stand with Israel. I don't support terrorism and terrorists. I don't oppose Islam or Judaism but I am against terrorism.

[Sargentcaptain]

Personally, genocides go against my morals, but you do you.

[RingOfFire]

Yes I agree. The Muslim terrorist's barbaric genocide of Jews in Israel is the most evil act of immorality on planet earth and must be met with overwhelming force to put an end to it once and for all.

[RingOfFire]

Number of Jews in the world: 16 million

Number of Muslims in the world: 1.8 BILLION

Who is committing genocide again?

[Sargentcaptain]

> Number of Jews in the world: 16 million

Number of Muslims in the world: 1.8 BILLION

Who is committing genocide again?

This has literally nothing to do with anything.

[Chayce]

Zionists are literally forcing Palestinians out of their own homes with AR-15’s pointed in their face while all they have to fight back with are rocks. Don’t be a moron

[strateguy632]

just hide that those were arrests for questioning. same ass police except there, resisting arrest is done by rapid fire guns. so need m1 rifles.

[007kingifrit]

its hard to say for many people it just seems like cultural osmosis like they were told its an easy thing to hate

[Anonymous]

I prefer Islamic countries, Israel is a feminist and progressive country.

[Fuentes]

All of the middle eastern countries seem to be stupid

[Anonymous]

perhaps its the 2000 years of ritualised infanticide for the jewish god molech.
or it could be those weird curly braids some of the men have.
who knows?

[RingOfFire]

[Opinion Owner]

newsflash hymie im at least 35% more intelligent than every jew I've met. sucks to be you

[strateguy632]

huh? jews opposed molek

[strateguy632]

about inteligent, how many nobel prizes did jews earn for brilliant contributions? far MORE than proportion.

[RingOfFire]

@strateguy632

22% of Nobel prizes have been earned by people with at least one Jewish parent.

Compare that with the 0.2% (that's ZERO POINT TWO PERCENT) of the world's population that is Jewish.

I'd say this guy wins the Nobel prize for smallest brain ever to survive birth.

[RingOfFire]

And @strateguy632

You are absolutely correct, the Hebrew Bible categorically CONDEMNS Moloch.

This guy is an ignorant idiot.

[Anonymous]

It’s not crazy. It’s perfectly rational to be upset about being relocated out of a house and come back 75 years later and completely unalive the new family living there.

[RingOfFire]

So when you sell your property to the new family, or leave the house voluntarily because you hate the people in the neighborhood the people who bought the property from you are responsible?

That's exactly what happened to the Palestinians. The Palestinians sold their land to the Israelis, and even though the Israelis encouraged and welcomed them to stay in Israel, they VOLUNTARILY left.

Why? Two reasons:

1. They HATED Jews and didn't want to live with them and;

2. The surrounding Arab Muslim countries told the Palestinians not to worry. They told them to leave Israel and they would kill all the Jews so they could come back to live there.

So the Palestinians LEFT VOLUNTARILY thinking it would only be temporary and all the Jews would be slaughtered.

Then the League of Nations (the forerunner of the United Nations) declared Israel a sovereign country in 1948. When they did that the Israelis were IMMEDIATELY attacked by the entire Arab world surrounding them to wipe them off the map.

But... SURPRISE! It didn't go so well for the Arabs and the newly formed nation of Israel kicked their asses.

To f'n bad for the Palestinians. They are never going back after that. Let the Arabs have them (they don't want them either).

[Opinion Owner]

Yes. This is clearly just a rational reaction to your grandpa getting evicted 75 years ago.

[strateguy632]

note the year 75!! in 1949 the excuse to flee ended. they chose to relinquish the land and live in a jordanian camp. even 1950 is too late. now later.

[Kristierose]

Why does anyone hate everyone

[davado88]

i hate them because they are evil. And because hating evil jews is a vital survival skill.
If you give them a chance theyll get ya

[strateguy632]

@davado88 you can't know that they are all evil. grouping like that is bad racism.

[davado88]

@strateguy632 actually its good racism but perhaps you meant its bad to be racist