There is news coming out that Egypt warned Israel days before the Iron Wall breach that Hamas was preparing an attack. Also Hamas had terrorists training camps that can be viewed by satellite. It’s very hard to believe that Israel didn’t know about those training facilities. Hamas was literally hiding in plain sight.
The cataclysmic failure of the Israeli intelligent agencies to anticipate this terrorist attack really makes me wonder. I know Israel has long had its hands tied given how Hamas intentionally uses innocent civilians as human shields. Hamas WANTS their own innocent civilians to die by collateral damage so they can blame Israel. The know the leftist western mass media will support that narrative too.
So Israel was constantly forced to tip toe as cautiously as they could when retaliating against Hamas. No other military in the world has gone as far as the IDF has to minimize collateral damage. It’s a constant exercise on futility.
But I wonder that too Israeli officials just let the terror attack happen so they would finally have the excuse they needed to invade the Gaza Strip and fully eradicate Hamas once and for all. Even if it means thousands of innocent lives they can now finally be justified to do what’s necessary.
Just a thought. And for the record I think Hamas militants aren’t even human and need to be dealt with accordingly. When you kill babies and brag about it you are an animal. Lowest form of life on earth. You aren’t human.
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This is not hard to understand - just because you receive a warning of an attack doesn't mean you have the details or scope or size. It's entirely plausible Israel did stop other components of the attack, but failed to recognize that there was more to it.
If I were organizing Hamas' attack, I would've made sure that the paragliders, drone operators, drive by shooters, tunnelers, and rocket teams, etc had no knowledge whatsoever of each others' participation. That way even if the IDF or Mossad caught someone, they wouldn't be able to spill on the entire operation. Hamas are sociopathic scum, but they aren't stupid. It's entirely possible they even intentionally let some people get caught beforehand to make the Israelis believe the threat was neutralized.
This was very well planned and executed. And you’re right about even though baby murdering psychopaths might be evil that doesn’t mean they’re stupid. In fact they can be very creative.
Still though Israel has been unfairly constrained for decades when they retaliate against Hamas. Our stupid ass liberal western media has made this exponentially worse.
I can’t help but wonder if someone higher up might of intentionally let this go on. Even the IDF bases close to the Gaza Strip were understaffed because of Simchat Torah. Yes you should to let military personnel enjoy their holidays. But you would think the Mossad intel would have alerted IDF high command about potential attack and manned up the bases.
Anyway I am not “blaming” Israel for anything here. This is just a deep devils advocate question. Israel now has full justification to do what needs to be done. They didn’t have excuse for decades and now they do. Could this have been a means to an end?
silly moot question. even if that conspiracy were true, we still can't SKIP OVER those who directly did the terrorists activity abducted hostages.
hammas can choose not to do violence. but they chose war and worse methods of terrorism.
contrast the cultures too.
but intellectual people know better than to buy into conspiracy, especially when citizens got killed and abducted.
this is just a new angle to put hammas guilt on israel so they look bad, falsely.
Oh I am VERY anti Hamas. Believe me. But sometimes devils advocate hit me and I don’t shut off my mind from the momentary consideration. But again I called it a conspiracy theory for a reason.
I don't believe that.
I am 100% pro Israel and i don’t either. When Hamas beheaded babies and bragged about it that’s when there was no doubt in my mind that we are dealing with animals. Their not human.
Still though I am shocked that Israel was so caught off guard with this. Especially with the now confirmed above ground terrorist training camps that existed in the Gaza Strip. How could go Israel not known about that and even if they did, why didn’t they take it seriously? Hamas wouldn’t of wasted time and money building and running those of all they wanted to do was fire rockets.
This all sounds like someone is making excuses why this is Israel's fault for not being prepared.
If someone breaks in your house, whose fault is it?
Oh I was enraged about the incident. Not making any excuses at all.
But I did some real deep thinking here. Israel has extremely constrained for decades for doing what they need to do given how Hamas intentionally uses civilians as human shields. They were unable just invade the Gaza Strip when Hamas was firing rockets.
But now they justifiably can. A lot of innocent Palestinians will die (which is completely the fault of Hamas) but now Israel finally has full justification to do this.
But again it’s a deep devil’s advocate question. Is it possible that Israeli top officials actually let this happen as a means to an end? If they prevented the breach then Hamas would still operate with impunity in the Gaza Strip.
You might be right about that, but it's futile to even take sides on this. The killings will go on long after you and I are pushing up daises.
This was destined to continually occur unfortunately. It was predicted in the Bible.
That's why it's not even worth worrying about. I've seen many posts on here about it, and no one including me has a solution.
What bothers me the most is how some WESTERNERS are supporting Hamas. Not just supporting Palestinian people but actually supporting what hamas did. That really bothers me.
Who is their right mind would openly support ISIS only a few years ago? Also even if my conspiracy theory above is true it sure as hell doesn’t mean what Hamas did was justified.
Some people don't have the ability to think for themselves.
I’m been around longer than you. I remember 9/11 quite vividly.
Nobody in the western world was putting on rallies to support the Al Queda and Osama Biden Laden. Nobody. But they celebrated in Palestine through.
But now people are openly supporting this heinous evil in WESTERN countries. That’s insane.