Have you noticed the hypocrisy of Right Wingers and children’s lives with this Israeli War?

[OddBeMe]

Oh fetuses are people who should be saved.

Yet fcks like these applaud children killed in Gaza.

Apparently Palesintian children are pre-Hamas fighters who deserved to die?

Yes

No

[Keyboardkat]

Hamas invaded Israel and kicked down doors and machine-gunned families while they slept, including old people and children! Hamas kidnapped a 92-year-old woman and then shot her to death while chanting, "IDF, IDF.!" Just what in blazes does a 92-year-old woman have to do with the IDF? And they burned and beheaded babies! LITTLE BABIES! These are war crimes by Hamas. Go ahead and tell me why this is justified and acceptable! Go ahead, tell me. I'll wait! Don't you talk to me about hypocracy! Anyone who would do things like this, as far as I'm concerned, forfeits the right to be considered human! Hamas is despicable, disgusting filth! They entered Israel specifically with the goal of killing as many people as possible! This filth needs to be wiped off the face of the earth permanently! Show the the same mercy they showed their victims! And in case you missed it, HAMAS STARTED IT BY ENTERING ISRAEL AND MURDERING, MACHINE-GUNNING INNOCENT CIVILIANS! SO DON'T YOU DARE CALL THIS AN ISRAELI WAR!

Israel has an absolute right and obligation to defend itself to the maximum extent necessary! The first obligation of ANY government, anywhere, is to protect the physical safety of its people! Every time Israel is attacked and defends itself, it gets to "stand down," to be proportional. Here's a news flash! This is a war! There is NO proprotionality in a war! If you want proportionality, perhaps Israel should go into Gaza and do exactly the same things Hamas did, behead the exact number of babies, take the exact number of hostages! THAT would be proportionality! If you can't tell the difference between the aggressor and the victim, then you can't tell right from wrong, and that makes you a moral imbecile! There is NO moral equivalence here!

[OddBeMe]

And Israel’s child death rate in Gaza? From this week alone? 400

Thank you for proving my point.

[Keyboardkat]

Compared with at least 1400 Israelis! You've proven MY point. Hamas deliberately locates ammunition dumps, armaments, and terrorist hideaways in schools, hospitals and apartment buildings where Israel cannot HELP but cause collateral damage, including civilian casualties, by defending itself by targeting Hamas military targets! That is just cowardly. Hamas doesn't give two you know whats about the Palestinian people, including children! The IDF is the ONLY military force in the world which tries to minimize and avoid civilian casualties to the extent possible. But you know what? This is a war! Israel is fighting for its very survival! There is NEVER proportionality in a real war. Look at how England bombed Dresden during WWII, because they knew the city was full of Nazi military, and there was no other way, although unfortunately there were civilian casualties! This war was Hamas' fault 100%. You are upset about the humanitarian crisis in Gaza? Go complain to Hamas! See how far you get!

[strateguy632]

very different the fetus is targeted, but those arabs weren't aimed at. they aimed at the soldiers and building used for war infrastructure not targeting the kids.

[Staximus]

I've seen the hypocrisy from right to left wing on both sides. I've heard conservatives and liberals condemning the Palestinians, and I've heard them both condemn the Israelis. There's no excuse for either side killing civilians. That's the most low down cowardly way to win a war.

[OddBeMe]

Don’t over equate. It’s not 50/50. Libs do have hypocrisy when it comes to islam and feminism. But this is child lives.

[Keyboardkat]

Nope! There is NO moral equivalency here! Israel has an ABSOLUTE RIGHT and OBLIGATION to defend itself and protect its people, the same as any other sovreign nation! Any other country would do the same thing. But only Israel gets condemned. There is definitely a double standard here! Why should Israel care what the world thinks? Who cares for Israel? The UN is so full of hypocracy it boggles belief!

[OddBeMe]

@Keyboardkat so Israel has absolute right to kill gazan children?

[Keyboardkat]

Any deaths among Gazan civilians is on Hamas, not Israel. Israel does something no other military in the world does, which is to consciously try to AVOID killing noncombatants, even at greater danger to themselves. Israel does NOT target children or any civilians; in fact, they WARN civilians whenver possible to evacuate., but Hamas will not permit them to do so. Hamas uses civilians as human shields, including children and women. They locate ammo dumps, rocket launchers, gun emplacements, and even military headquarters in and under schools and hospitals in order to increase civilian casualties, because it's good for their PR: They can just blame Israel. And gullible fools such as yourself swallow their propaganda hook, line and sinker. Hamas doesn't care at all about Gazan civilians! Why have they not built even ONE bomb shelter for civilians? What they are doing is in itself a war crime. This isn't a game. Israel is not playing tit for tat. Israel is fighting for its very survival because they fear the genocide that Hamas was sworn to commit against them, and against all Jewish people everywhere! And those fears are real, and as we've seen, justified. Hamas is filthy scum and needs to be wiped out. Israel is targeting Hamas, which is a terrorist organization. They are NOT targeting civilians!
By the way, this started when Israel was attacked and Hamas invaded and kicked in doors, and murdered families in their beds, beheaded and burned BABIES, raped, tortured and murdered women, and celebrated it! WHERE THE HELL WAS THE OUTRAGE ABOUT THAT? Oh, I see, if Jewish people are the victims, that doesn't matter. Except it does!

[OddBeMe]

@Keyboardkat if a burglar breaks into your house and you shoot at them, it’s your right. But what if you kill a neighbor?

[Jackblue]

Unfortunately collateral damage happens in wars especially when insurgencies are involved, since insurgents don't wear uniforms and they fire from civilian areas. That is completely different from mass shootings like what Hamas has done. In my opinion all casualties are on the heads of the insurgents who have refused to recognize Israel's right to exist, wanting to continue to oppress Jewish people as they did before the colonial era.

[OddBeMe]

And…thanks for proving my point.

[exitseven]

I would not call these fine people celebrating the beheading of 40 children "right wingers"

[OddBeMe]

How about religiously conservative?

[exitseven]

I will give you that one.

[OddBeMe]

But I don’t think right/left politics applies to Islamic extremists beyond that. But in the Israel, the ruling Likud party is clearly warmongering conservative right wing.

[exitseven]

Israel has been surrounded by enemies for ages. They had to get tough or die. I knew a guy that was in the Israeli army, He did not look like much but he was really tough and knew how to fight.

[OddBeMe]

And that has to do with killing children how?

[exitseven]

It is why the Israelis can be seen as warmongering. They are not the one who started it but they will be the one that finishes it,.

[OddBeMe]

Warmongering is just bad in my opinion. Regardless of how you get there. True she Britian gave Europe’s and Palestine Jews their “mandate” or colonized land to become Israel, it pissed off every Arab state on their border and beyond. I mean it’s the worst neighborhood to be against Arab extremism.

But killing children is killing children. 400 dead because of Israel. I don’t like comparing Israelis to Hamas.

[gorydetails]

Are you still on the fake hospital bombing story, or are you referencing something else?

[OddBeMe]

Fake huh?

[gorydetails]

From the pics, the parking lot was barely damaged. But its cool to see you and your boyfriend got your programming.

[OddBeMe]

Well it happened dumbass. Israel and Palestine are blaming each other. But only one side is bombing gaza. Hamas could've blew it up but that seems like a chess move theyre too dumb to make. An accidental air strike from Israeli jets sounds like a winner.

www.npr.org/.../fake-accounts-old-videos-and-rumors-fuel-chaos-around-gaza-hospital-explosion

[jshm2]

It's why right wing fuckwits don't matter in any debate.

[OddBeMe]

Somehow they run 60% of state houses and the US House, which is in utter disarray. And their leading primary candidate for president is five times indicted and an actual sentenced sex assaulter.

[Juxtapose]

You're trying to paint a very large group of people with a very wide brush when each individual has their own set of beliefs.

[goaded]

What's your opinion on children, even infants, being killed by Israel right now?

[OddBeMe]

400 dead kids in Gaza was a number I googled.

[Juxtapose]

Same as my opinion on the children who were killed when America nuked Japan.

[OddBeMe]

And that was a war crime. Same as Dresden.

[goaded]

Q. What's your opinion on children, even infants, being killed by Israel right now?

A. Same as my opinion on the children who were killed when America nuked Japan.

That doesn't answer my question at all. You could be saying either "it was a terrible war crime", "they deserved it for being born Japanese/in the Gaza strip", or something else altogether.

[Juxtapose]

The nukes were necessary and I would have pushed the button myself.

Sometimes innocent people die in war and that's the reality. Go talk to Obama about his drone strikes in Yemen.

[OddBeMe]

And that’s the dumb ass reason humans will always start violence and kill each other.

Two theories:
1. Israel could have treated Hamas’ invasion as a crime and went after it with Mossad and swat tactics.
2. America and Britain could have isolated and blockaded Japan instead of invading or dropping the bomb. I think personally it was Soviets conquering Japan’s Mongolian and Chinese bases that made the Emperor step in. Because by then it was all for nothing.

[Juxtapose]

1. Not really going to be anything that's going to stop an invasion.

2. The USA dropped leaflets warning the civilians to evacuate and they needed to capitalize on their momentum. Japan is very stubborn.

[OddBeMe]

Why wouldn’t finding each of the Hamas criminal individual not stop Hamas’ danger? Certainly bombing Palestinians hasn’t worked.

[Juxtapose]

Well either way the entire enemy force should be delt with until they are neutralized by Israel. If there's a way to do it without civilians dying then good 👍

[Juxtapose]

I think these conflicts are a huge waste of USA $.

[OddBeMe]

And your idea of “if people don’t have to die, great” is astoundingly horrific. That means innocents dying is not the priority in your eyes. Horrible.

[Juxtapose]

Grow a pair of balls you fucking pansy. Innocent people die in war and if you have a problem with that? Don't go to war like a dumbass. Jesus Christ it's not that hard to understand.

[OddBeMe]

Funny how peoples lives are so expendable to political beliefs. And the same fucks bitch about aborted fetuses.

[Juxtapose]

I don't care about abortion.

[OddBeMe]

Wow you really missed the point there.

[Anonymous]

No but I'm not right wing

Palestine would be a start on overpopulation, 0.25% down just 99.75% to go

[OddBeMe]

Funny you sound perfectly right wing. You fit right in.

[Opinion Owner]

I'm more central, I don't go in for religion or any of the -isms, I just view terrorists and those who sympathize with them get held accountable, like the 90 something gate guards at concentration camps who were teens the are getting charged with the thousands of murders they were complicit to

[OddBeMe]

Then you can see the “terrorists” in Palestine are different than most Palestinians. Even if Hamas was voted in.

Like the KKK is not Alabama, but probably most of Alabama would support some if not their beliefs.

[Jerre]

Only noticed it from Congresswoman Tlaib, a Democrat from Michigan. She is out of her mind!!

[OddBeMe]

I don’t know as she’s not on my radar. But she does wear a burqa so I see why she’s on yours.

I’m just talking basic numbers. Israel has killed 400 children in Gaza at least.

[Jerre]

You shud check your facts!

[OddBeMe]

What I get wrong? More dead kids than I thought?

[Anonymous]

Why does Hamas hide out in hospitals?

[OddBeMe]

Because there’s people. And they want israel to bomb it. Are you that stupid? Israel apparently is.

[Opinion Owner]

Are you really that stupid to still think that Israel bombed that hospital?

[OddBeMe]

I don’t know. Evidence for accredited news is leaning toward an Hamas rocket misfiring. But would that hospital and all its residents have died if Israel hadn’t escalated?