Why do you think the social climate around race is as it is with the statistics below being true?

[Juxtapose]

"According to Bureau of Justice statistics, there were 6.5 million police interactions with Black people in 2018 but only 22 were killed by police. According to these numbers, the chances of a Black person being killed by a cop are less than his chances of being killed by lightning."

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/opinion/2021/04/16/letters-better-chance-being-struck-lightning-than-killed-police/7226312002/

So.. looks like BLM should be looking into protection from lightning more than protection from police.

Although I will throw out for you guys the amusing fact that a cop is more likely to kill you than a terrorist in the USA.

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As in, a cop is more likely to kill you than a terrorist is likely to kill you. I worded that last paragraph a bit poorly.

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You people are also assuming that these black people are killed exclusively by white cops. Not true.

[Sasahara]

Because SJWs (and black supremacists in this case) can turn police into the big bad boogey man, they can’t do the same to a force of nature like lightning.
Ask them what did more damage between the BLM riots and the Jan 6th protests and they will twist every fact into claiming Jan 6th was worse. And ignore those that says otherwise. Crook died of fentanyl according to autopsy report? Cop killed him!

[KrakenAttackin]

An excellent post. The assumption is also that it's a white cop shooting a black man, which simply isn't true.

[handsomelad70]

The numbers re. fatal interactions between police and African Americans are laughably understated.

[Juxtapose]

@handsomelad70 do you have any citations that are more reputable than the Bureau of Justice?

[Screenwriter]

It's not DEATH that is the issue. It is abuse: beatings, harassment, being shot, tazed or indicted when you've done nothing wrong.

There is a systemic issue among police to believe that black males, in particular, are criminals and suspect, whereas white males are never relegated to this category. Black females are also treated with disrespect in police encounters.

This occurs whether the cops are white OR black (think of George Floyd and Rodney King), though the most egregious crimes are white cops against black males.

Six white cops are just being sentenced for their beating of a young black man in the South who was guilty of nothing.

Dozens of black men have been freed in the Innocence Project after being misidentified as being perpetrators of murder, rape or other crimes, because DNA ID exonerated them. These are men who have been jailed for YEARS, if not DECADES.

It is this legacy of racism and inferiority that is the direct descendant of 400 years of slavery in America. In other countries, it is other groups of people: In India, it's the Untouchables. In the Dominican Republic, it's Haitians. Otherwise it's people who look, act, or have different religious practices and values, such as Islamic people.

There is always some group, maybe the latest immigrants, who are demonized. You've heard terms attached to Mexicans: they're animals, criminals, we've got to stop them from coming into our country.

But does anyone say this about Chinese, Indian, Guatemalan or any other immigrant group other than Mexicans? This is simply because 24% of emigrants to the U. S. are Mexican. Whereas the second 24% are combinations of the former people mentioned and Filipinos, Korean, Vietnamese and others. But their percentage numbers total in the 3 to 5% range.

So the logical conclusion is that large swaths of immigrant people from the same place are most targeted. Especially when they look non-white. Again. That old American saw: Eurocentric racism. The U. S., a country founded by people who were escaping religious and other persecutions, decided to enact their own brand of persecution: slavery.

It all makes sense in the scope of human behavior. It's just not pretty.

[Juxtapose]

No, I'm not going to feel bad for criminal aliens whose first act coming into United States is to commit a felony by violating our borders. Frankly the United States should execute people who illegally come into our country like some other countries do to foreign invaders.

And what you describe is not what I actually experienced when seeing police on the job. I have been in police cruisers and interviewed them as part of projects, I even went to martial arts with police officers and they are pretty chill. They don't care if you are black.

And that's also ignoring that there are specific places in this country that if you go into while you are white? They will kill you. My dad is an ex-marine that flew harriers and he has flown commercially all over the country, he grew up in New York City. He said that there is absolutely places where you will be killed around there if you are white.

If anything BLM and black people are some of the most privileged people in existence right now.

[Juxtapose]

And if black people were really being targeted so severely? More than 22 of them would have died in a year. Lightning is literally more racist than police officers at that point.

[Screenwriter]

Again, you don't understand that the majority of occurrences are not deaths. Peope are targeted as criminals simply for being black or Hispanic, and being beaten, injured, disrespected because of ASSUMPTIONs made about them.

And you do not know what you are talking about when you say that black people are the most privileged. Have you ever lived inside a black skin? Have you suffered prejudice because you were black. Were you kept from buying a house in a neighborhood because you were black, "redlining?"

Were you threatened by a police officer for being in a park with your fiance' and run out of the park for sitting on the grass talking? Threatened to have someone younger and white that you trained e promoted over you repeatedly? Told you spoke inappropriately to a superior because that person didn't like the "tone" of your response?

I'm giving a list of experiences from my parents, my brother and myself over decades. Did you ever have to go to a separate bathroom or sit in the back of a bus because you were a certain color? And the bathrooms for you were always filthy? I know, because I looked in the "white" bathrooms.

Were you prevented from trying on hats or clothes in major department stores because of your skin color?

There are all things that have happened in America and that you have little to no knowledge of because you ARE NOT BLACK and you're too young to know all this history and it IS NOT TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS.

And the fact is, people hire people who LOOK LIKE THEMSELVES and have similar backgrounds like themselves. That is HUMAN NATURE. You go with what you know. And if people had more experience with people of different backgrounds a lot of this would wane.

[Screenwriter]

And it is true that major companies are trying to be more equitable and to hire a more varied workforce. And some minority folk take advantage of this and feel they don't have to do the same amount of work because they're resentful and angry. You see how this works? People kept out act irrationally when given SOME privilegess that they never had in the past. Worst yet, some people given privileges that they never had DO NOT KNOW how to perform or behave.

This causes all kinds of problems all around. So whites are resentful and afraid of reporting black workers who are not doing what they need to... And trainers are overworked and make assumptions about the workers they hire.

I see this at big box stores like HOme Depot. There are EXCELLENT workers of EVERY color, but there are a minority of workers who are unaware of what they need to do or are gaming the system.

I'll comment of immigrants in another missive. Love you!

[Justneedtokno]

Racism is the issue. Being targeted, being racial profile, being harassed the fear of doing something and you haven’t even done anything. Killing is the end result of the fear of.


If people really knew Black people they wouldn’t harm you, once the slave learned how to read the Bible, they knew how to turn the other cheek Martin Luther King. Racism ingrained in a lot of people to fear them due to their skin color. And is hard to just get over that or be colorblind ( that insulting) to that because you can clearly see somebody’s skin.

[Billlewis]

@Justneedtokno Quite true, but the greatest threat to Black folks today isn't white supremacists -- it's white liberals.

[Justneedtokno]

I feel like it’s a combination of all of it. We’re not talking about the biggest threat we’re talking about a threat. Why should someone have to fear just existing. Someone’s existence bothers somebody else and that’s the issue.

If you look at it now, a black person still has a hard time fitting into America society whether they have a certain amount of money or don’t have a certain amount of money. Fix their hair, a certain way code switch.

[Juxtapose]

Black people are some of the most privileged people in existence right now.

[Juxtapose]

If black people are so peaceful then why does 13% of the population commit 50% of violent crime?

And yet the police are magnanimous and kill so few of them every year even though the crips and the bloods are out of fucking control.

[Justneedtokno]

First, addressing privilege and right now, as a stated, before we still don’t fit in to the mainstream America view society, they’ve created their own meaning their own black TV award shows, and many other things that celebrate themselves so Black people can feel it because deep down they know they are not loved. We are not accepted and that it is.

Secondly, I never said every single black person was without fault. we all know the same one bad eggs spoils you know the rest. But you have to also take into the account the environment that they grew up in, the household that they grew up in, and a bunch of other factors you know how it goes mental awareness

And third gang really? That also ties into the second one

[Juxtapose]

If you create a parallel society then you are essentially self-segregating yourself. Why work against Martin Luther King's dream?

I can promise you that black people who don't buy into ghetto shit are treated the same as everybody else unless they are around the Bible Belt. In my school systems I have never seen black people be discriminated against and the local police were really chill.

[Juxtapose]

It's just like with rednecks, nobody likes white rednecks and they will actively spurn that culture.

[Justneedtokno]

Think of it this way, it’s like the glass ceiling idea some people fill as if no matter how hard they try how much money you make how much education you get you’re never going to be in some circles or certain portions of Americans society, because of the color of our skin Someone will look down on you or don’t think that you belong. Some people have understood that, and so they created their own way of living such as Tyler Perry Oprah made their own categories Beyoncé. So be the best, and no one can ever take that away from you because you’ve created some thing. It doesn’t go against what Martin Luther King says in some ways that is respected and accepted because you’ve built and created something within society that can’t be taken away.

[Justneedtokno]

And as far as the cops or racism prejudice. That’s what preconceived notions are you may not have any evidence of someone doing something no fact something you’ve heard or may have thought you seen in the back of your mind. Some people are just afraid of Black people and think they’re going to do something, even if they’re just a boy, it happens there is conversation where you have to address people a certain way you have to check in there’s so many things even within the black community. It’s kind of hard to explain because we’re also in it with how the world treats us and how we have to look at the world And make sure doing the right thing just because of stereotypes

[Juxtapose]

I think Barack Obama clearly showed that there isn't a glass ceiling.

I mean yeah, are there certain country clubs with rich, influential white dudes a black woman probably could not get into? Absolutely.

But America is huge and you have so much opportunity. People like Daryl Davis, Dave Chappelle, Oprah Winfrey, Michael Jordan and so would not be able to survive and thrive in a society with a glass ceiling.

[Juxtapose]

Hell, Mike Tyson was shown how to fight by a white guy with a bad eye. Where was the glass ceiling for Mike Tyson?

[Justneedtokno]

Even Barack Obama was the most hated and beloved president in the world just as many voted for him. There was an opposition. Thats why I said Some Feel as if no matter how hard they try how much money you make how much education you get you’re never going to be in some circles or certain portions of Americans society, because of the color of our skin Someone will look down on them or don’t think that they don’t belong. Some people have understood that, and so they created their own way of living such as. So be the best, and no one can ever take that away from you. The people that we’ve just stated all Created their own ceiling.

[Juxtapose]

Well I am autistic and I'm used to feeling like an alien in a lot of situations. If I try to become president I would face opposition just because of how I was born much like you would yourself. But we shouldn't let that discourage us to the point where we separate too much.

I think people like Michael Jordan and whatnot did pretty well for themselves well also not focusing too much on immutable characteristics.

[Juxtapose]

You and I can talk, we can communicate and not care about our differences (the concept of race is anti-scientific bullshit anyway). I think that's the way it should be and fuck the bigots.

[Justneedtokno]

See, in these instances where we’re having a full out conversation and understanding of one another, not many people get a chance to do so so when it comes down to racism, classism, systematic oppression all of that these things get lost in translation so you end up with some bad apples in the bunch Some people don’t get the education some people do see the differences some people do see how they weren’t afforded the opportunities to do the things that they could have done I wish they could’ve done which leads them to worse than themselves
But alas, good convo There’s a lot of things that needs to change within society, but sometimes the solution is let them work it out for themselves and they’ll see not everybody’s bad not everybody’s good it’s up to the individual

[Juxtapose]

I do agree with you that a lot needs a change within society and also I believe a lot needs to change within people. I hope more people can introspect and come to reasonable conclusions. I don't need people to agree with me 100%, just stop yelling loud enough to talk to each other!

Thanks for the pleasant conversation and you take care of yourself out there 👍

[exitseven]

The liberals have been pushing race ever since Obama was elected. We never had the division in this country along race 20 years ago.
Black people are really not too stupid to get an ID card so they can vote. Democrats telling them they are that stupid is finally starting to piss them all off.

[NaultD]

That 6.5 million interactions alone are concerning enough. Cops aren't Walmart greeters. Everyone's got a few hundred years of history to get spooked. Don't tell me the cops aren't just as scared.

Maybe a complete overhaul of the police system is in order. It is our government of the people, by the people, and the police's duty to protect and serve.

[Juxtapose]

Gee, maybe it's because 13% of the population commits 50% of the violent crimes so that's why they get visited by the police more? Don't commit crime and the police likely won't fuck with you.

And you also assume that all those interactions are with white cops xD Do the black cops hate themselves?

[patois]

I heard they are already working on it...

[Joshydavid25]

Just race hustlers trying to continue the division because it helps them to keep a job.. Not to mention the emotional professional victims who emoti are tied to the idea, and don't care about the facts..

[Joshydavid25]

Emotionally..**

[gorydetails]

And of that 22, how many were justified because the black person pulled a deadly weapon?

[Juxtapose]

Yeah when you factor in all these different things it really paints a different picture than what the media narrative shows us.

A police officer is absolutely supposed to shoot you dead if you pull a knife on them. With a single second draw time, you can close a distance of 20 ft before the officer can shoot you.

[BoopBoopBeep]

Doesn't BLM stand for "Because Lightening's a MF" though?

[Jamie05rhs]

What do you mean, "you people"?

[Jamie05rhs]

jk lol