Do cop beaters deserve pardons?

[OddBeMe]

Trump didn't think so. Minutes after he pardoned them.

Yes! Those cop beaters are patriots!

No, they're criminals

[MisterWack]

January 6th, 2021 was an attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power from an election that was in the process of concluding. Any government process being stopped by a violent, disorderly, and entitled mob of supporters of the opposing side invoked in furious anger by said opposing politician is unlawful, unconstitutional, and a utter embarrassment for our country. I felt something on January 6th, 2021 as it was happening and afterwards…. One word: Shame.

Why did I feel shame over something beyond my control, something that was multiple 100 miles away, and happening at the heart of our Republic with Democratic values… Because I supported him in 2016. Plain simple. If someone showed me a snapshot of his presidency ending in this cop beating force I probably wouldn’t have said his praises… Just a thought to myself for my own self reflection, though everyone will rightfully say “we knew he was like this before electing him into office, you just didn’t open your eyes to it”. One things for sure I spoke out more and was more involved in politics online as a result…

I remember warning people that he would do X, Y, and Z in his presidency next time around and people laughed or brushed it off or came up with an excuse though nope he totally just pardoned January 6th rioters who carried bear spray, handguns, zip ties, handcuffs, flagpole with a spike at the end, spears, brass cuffs, etc. Even a couple people were spotted at the Capital Grounds in a nearby tree with sniper rifles & camouflage. President Donald Trump being informed of weapons being confiscated told the security team that they weren’t there to harm him…. Cool.

January 7th 2021 at 4:15 to 4:30 AM or so, Vice President Mike Pence got the certification done, completing the peaceful transfer of power and ensuring the will of the people following to his Constitutional duties as per the Oath of Office he swore to.

Now ignoring the whole J6 thing, no one should be pardoned for attacking a cop under any circumstance. No one should be pardoned for any circumstance since the cops are there to do their job and don’t deserve to die, be threatened, or be traumatized for it…. Those that defended the Capital Building were patriots and God Bless Them! God Bless America!

[blackeagle007]

Trumps a hypocritical asshat. He wants maximum punishment for crimes against cops. But it’s ok for his supporters to abuse them. What a joke

[OddBeMe]

Yes. It's the political special treatment.

Biden wouldn't have even thought of pardoning his kid before trump.

[blackeagle007]

Exactly, trumps a thin skinned Child. He dosent like it when people are against him, he bails out his supporters. Oh and what about cops themselves committing murder because “oh I thought he was reaching for a gun, he was resisting” Trump is ok with that. Total piece of shit

[beefcakebradybatson]

No, if they're POC. Yes if they're white trailer trash Jan.6,2021 insurrectionists.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

The only people that truly deserve pardons are those that have been convicted and sentenced to incarceration with a lack of evidence or those proven to be innocent. I oppose pardons motivated by nepotism, returning favors of support, lobbyism, or to score some political points in the long run. There should definitely be regulations on who presidents are allowed to pardon. What I find ironic about Trump pardoning the Capitol Hill rioters is that he claims to be tough on crime and the Democrats and the Left are soft on crime, but he has no issues letting criminals out of prison. I guess birds of a feather flock together considering that he is America's first president to be a convicted felon himself.

[blackeagle007]

Right? And his dumbass supporters say he’s not convicted at all 😆

[Anonymous]

Of course not. No party of "law and order" would do that. But don't forget, Trump pardoned a copkiller his first term too who is now out committing more crimes. He seems to have no respect for police, just like he doesn't with the military.

[Red_Arrow]

Of course not! Trump invited them to go there. He even invited the vicious Proud Boys. While Trump egged them on, the Capitol police set up barricades to keep them back, but they toppled the barricades and broke doors and windows to get in. The mob brought weapons and turns flag poles and pieces of fences into weapons, beating the police. They were doing Trump's bidding, yet he said after that they deserved punishment. Then he flipped again and said they deserved to go free. Many are currently threatening the men who defended the Capitol. Some of the cops received injuries that either caused or aided their deaths shortly after the melee. For protecting our nation's Capitol, as well as the officials inside, the cops and their families are now receiving death threats from the criminals Trump has set free and is now supporting. Of course he supports them. They were doing his bidding!

[goaded]

There's one honorable person among them.

"Pamela Hemphill, who pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 60 days in prison, told the BBC that there should be no pardons for the riot on 6 January 2021.

"Accepting a pardon would only insult the Capitol police officers, rule of law and, of course, our nation," she said.

"I pleaded guilty because I was guilty, and accepting a pardon also would serve to contribute to their gaslighting and false narrative.""

[Red_Arrow]

@goaded I do not know why she joined the crowd, but what she is saying now is proof that she is (at least now) an honorable person.

[OddBeMe]

60 days, prob suspended was light. Following a crowd is what trumpers do

[blueonblack22]

I’m not okay with cop beaters getting full pardons at all. Like virtually all the J6 defendants they got draconian lengthy sentences. If average prison time is 5 years for someone doing this crime elsewhere it’s not right for these guys to get 10+ years.

But I wish trump would have commuted their sentences vs. full on pardons.

But at least Trump is giving his friends and family “preemptive” pardons for crimes they “might” get charged for like that corrupt senile sack of human excrement Joe Biden.

[NimbleOcelot]

It's only corrupt if the left does it, not the right. Context doesn't matter, right? Other than the context of what party they are, right?

[OddBeMe]

@NimbleOcelot exactly

[OddBeMe]

@blueonblack22 so because you politically agree with j6 aholes, you don't mind them getting special treatment.

[DrPepper12]

Doesn't matter. Reality is what he says it is this minute. It's all about "back the blue" & traditional conservative values! Don't you get it yet?

[Anonymous]

Because they didn't beat the cops. It's already been proven long ago. Yet all the documents were destroyed by the Biden administration, so the people involved were imprisoned without evidence, and had nothing to use to defend themselves from the charges. Complete violation of due process under the 5th and 14th Amendments. Now at least the Trump administration can do a full investigation, and call all the people who were pardoned to testify, who will not be able to plead the 5th because they were pardoned from criminal culpability.

And even if they were fully guilty, they are just as deserving of pardons as Hunter Biden, who we know was guilty of massive felonies, the Biden family, and the January 6 committee of criminals.

[exitseven]

Those guys were not cops. Real cops would not shoot somebody that was unarmed and had her hands in plain sight. They were one step below mall cops.

Why do you think Biden pardoned them all? It wouldn't be because he is afraid they would tell the truth about what really happened that day?

[blackeagle007]

Filando Castillo told the cop he was carrying. Went to get his license. Cop got scared and shot him to death. Why would someone say “I’m armed” and then have bad intentions? Cops are scared of black males plain and simple

[Anonymous]

Jordan Neely shattered a woman's eye socket and didn't see a day in jail. A 17 year old 6ft6 220 thug put a teacher in hospital and didn't get a day in prison.

Hunter Biden got pardoned of all his crimes this last 11 years.

[OddBeMe]

Dodging the question. But ok. So its politics. Dems never pardoned cop beaters

[Opinion Owner]

If we aren't going to enforce the law consistently why bother at all.
Also Biden just pardoned a man who murdered 2 FBI agents.
I suggest you take a look at the Biden pardons.

[NimbleOcelot]

Still dodging the question. Do you support Trump pardoning cop beaters, and killers in one case, since one of the cops died later due to what happened on Jan 6th.

[Opinion Owner]

@NimbleOcelot do you support Biden pardoning a guy who murdered federal agents?

[NimbleOcelot]

Please post the name since you want to keep arguing it. And please answer the original question. Either way, my answer won't be relevant to the current question, because no one should be above the law. NO ONE. Also Jordan Neely didn't see a day in jail because he's dead...

[Opinion Owner]

@NimbleOcelot take a look at the Biden pardons.
Jordan Neely is dead because he was allowed to prowl the subways assaulting and threatening women until he was stopped

[NimbleOcelot]

What does that have to do with Biden? That's a police issue. Also, just post the link. I'm not going to spend an hour searching for a specific person if you already know who you are talking about.

[Opinion Owner]

@NimbleOcelot democrat DA and mayor not prosecuting criminal thugs
Biden, on his last day in office on Monday, commuted the sentence imposed on the 80-year-old Leonard Peltier.

[NimbleOcelot]

Was he ever arrested in the first place? Also, I don't know much about Peltier, and I think it's a sensitive issue among the Native Americans, and I don't know what caused the initial incident, but just going off of his admission to participating in the crime, I'd say Biden overstepped his bounds by commuting his sentence. Because we should recognize when any president does something wrong, not just the opposing ones. So answer the original question asked in the post.

[Opinion Owner]

@NimbleOcelot Jordan Neely was arrested in double digit figures and was conducting a campaign of crime for 4 years on the subway

[OddBeMe]

You bring him up a lot. Like newly was some mastermind criminal who killed millions of Americans. Oh no that was trump.

[Opinion Owner]

He's a good example of the life in a liberal city. Criminals allowed to prey on people. There's a reason the national guard has been deployed to the NYC Subway

[NimbleOcelot]

Republican states have higher crime rates, so taking one off instances don't prove anything.

[NimbleOcelot]

You are looking at single instances while we look at the entirety.

[Opinion Owner]

@NimbleOcelot and yet in liberal cities Starbucks, wallmart, target and others are shutting down branches because of the crime.

[blackeagle007]

He didn’t pardon him moron. Get proof then we’ll talk

[Opinion Owner]

@blackeagle007 is he in jail

[ABC1x1x]

It's not because they are patriots or not. It's that the law and punishment wasn't fair or handed out equitablly. Cops were hurt in other protests and most cases were dropped. If anyone saw time it was less than a year and probation on first offenses. These guys were in for almost 5 years already and on 20 year sentences. They served their time for their offense already.

[OddBeMe]

What wasn't fair about beating cops?

[ABC1x1x]

Reading not your strong suit? Typical

[OddBeMe]

I'm reading you want special treatment for your side but no one else.

[Snakeyes7]

I thought all cops are bastards and since the left loves to punch people they deem as bastards, were they not fulfilling your dream?

Also many of them have been in jail with no trial so that is a violation of due process and that was why Trump was calling them "hostages."

[OddBeMe]

Well I say judge by action. Oh no dem pardoned a cop beater.

[Snakeyes7]

Biden paid bail for countless BLM rioters, traded a Russian arms dealer for a basketball player who was dumb enough to think she can sneak weed into Russia and pre-pardoned many members of his cabinet who we have been told time and time again were innocent.

I think we are even now and that is assuming that every single person was a cop beater and not people who just walked into the capitol and respected the rope barriers, you know, like rioters/insurrectionists do.

[shortster]

Unfortunately, the whole J6 prosecutions involved too many violations of due process. So the fruit of the poison tree must all be thrown out. The American justice system is supposed to be ascribed to the idea that it is better that 10 guilty murderers go free than 1 innocent man go to prison. Something that we have rarely lived up to; but we should strive for. When prosecutors knowingly violate this principle they should be disbarred and all of their convictions overturned.

[OddBeMe]

And you have proof of this? Oh just a feel fact because you sympathize with the Jan 6ers and not say, BLM rioters.

[shortster]

Would you accept the proof if I linked it? Why would we need sympathy for BLM rioters? They were all bailed out by Kamala.

[OddBeMe]

You have no proof.

[Astarlessnightsky]

If they weren't supporting Trump, he would declare the January 6 thugs, the greatest most best Terrorist of all time.

[Stravoula96]

I seen something like of Beer Hall Putsch.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/pJVQZWLqSPE

[OddBeMe]

Not even hitler was pardoned.

[lightbulb27]

No. I heard he changed his mind on this late. Id say mistake. maybe can get away with it supporting most cops with policies, and piss off a few. maybe it saved some costs of re-trials and such... since he doesn't trust the prior process.

[blackeagle007]

Trump is a whiny thin skinned baby that doesn’t want to be accountable for his actions. He blames the world!

[Yabbut]

Honest, I would need specific details on each case. One thing I do disagree with is not doing this on a case by case basis.

[OddBeMe]

I gave you one about the guy who stun gunned a cop in the neck.

[Yabbut]

How long was he in jail? Was he sentenced? What was he sentenced to? Was it in line for what anyone else would serve for doing what he did? That's what I mean, specifics.

[OddBeMe]

It's been 4 years- so less than that. He admitted it on tape. What is the prison sentence for assault on an officer? Not a pardon.

[Yabbut]

Where I live it's 3 to 11 years.

[OddBeMe]

So your boy let him out early.

[Yabbut]

Are you always this annoying? Assuming the sentencing guidelines there are the same as here, and something tells me they aren't, that means the guy served the minimum sentence. You really should get a hobby, you seem miserable lately. Keep it up, and you'll age yourself in dog years.

[OddBeMe]

For. beating. a. cop.

[NimbleOcelot]

He also invaded a government building using force, so why would he get the minimum sentencing?

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot I'm going to say this slow. I said in the beginning that I needed specific details. I'm not going to say one way or the other what he should have gotten based on the scant info I've been given. I said it should habe been done on a case by case basis, and I meant just that. Odd asked what the sentence was for assaulting an officer, I answered what it was here. I don't care if you agree with me, it won't pay my bills. If you want a better answer, come with the details. Otherwise, shut up.

[Yabbut]

Odd, you said he was stun gunned, not beaten. I've been stun gunned (don't ask, I was feeling adventurous). It's nothing like a beating. Still, the sentence guidelines I mentioned were for assaulting a police officer, where I live. I didn't make the guidelines, don't shoot the messenger.

[NimbleOcelot]

The thing is that's the case for EVERYONE incarcerated in this. They all broke into a government building in a mob, because they disliked the result of the election based on what Trump lied about. I didn't give a case by case thing. I included the base accusation of each of them.

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot what about the video of officers waving people in?

[NimbleOcelot]

www.snopes.com/.../

Already been disproven by video evidence.

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot i don't exactly trust Snopes, however reviewing things on a case by case basis means no one has to. Besides, this would be breaking and entering, which where I live will get you 6 to 12 months. We're 4 years in. Anyone that was violent shouldn't be let out, that's why I said take it case by case. Let's see you come with same attitude about lefties that commit violence and destruction. Or are you saying the government is more important than us regular folks?

[OddBeMe]

@yabbut you're letting your political leanings cloud your judgement.

[Yabbut]

By saying I need more info. Really?

[NimbleOcelot]

They were convicted on a case by case basis. You can say you don't trust Snopes, but they source everything, and they included the videos in question, thoroughly disproving it. Unlike the right, most of the left support individuals who have committed crimes to be punished, regardless of political affiliation. There are a few outliers, such as Luigi, who has similar sentiment among the right as well.

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot regardless of what the video shows, people convicted of breaking and entering wouldn't be locked up 4 years later, at least not where I live. You both seem to be so caught up in this left vs right crap that you are not getting what I'm saying. I said from the beginning that I didn't agree with this being a blanket pardon. The pardons should have been done case by case. I don't know the details of the people pardoned, so I'm not going to cry about it without those details. You will not find me saying anything different about anyone on the left. I do try to be fair minded. At any rate, my outrage, or lack thereof doesn't have any bearing on anything. What we think about it literally doesn't matter. I will say it seems that Trump may not know the details of who he pardoned. I don't agree with that.

[NimbleOcelot]

It's not breaking and entering. It's breaking into a government facility during an ongoing political proceeding that was an attempt to change the results of the election.

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot show me where they were charged as such. You talking but not answering my questions. In my first reply to you I said bring the details or shut up. We were talking about a specific case, the guy with the stun gun. What was he charged with? Has he been sentenced? What was the sentence? I'd like to know these things before saying anything, that makea absolutely no difference anyway. Now, do you just want to be salty, or do you have actual info? Unless you do, I have stuff to do.

[NimbleOcelot]

I am responding to that... Please read what I said. All charges for the Jan 6th protestors are based on the initial fact that they broke into a government building, during a government proceeding, in an attempt to stop that proceeding. This is considered when applying charges. For all of them, including stun gun guy, who also did so with force.

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot you are not giving specific charges or sentences. I'm not asking about everyone. I'm asking about this one guy. What was he convicted of, and what was his sentence? If you don't know, just say so.

[NimbleOcelot]

... Ok, let me spell this out more. I do not know what his specific charges, although that should be easy enough to look up.

I am arguing that when you are sentenced to a crime, the judge takes in many factors to decide the length of the sentence. Breaking and entering into a government facility to steal an election will be included in the sentence, even if he was or was not charged in the crime itself. If he was charged for only the crime you mentioned, then he deserves the maximum sentence for that crime.

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot no, you believe it should be included based on your view of things. That doesn't mean that's what happened. It makes a difference just how much his sentence was shortened. And what exactly he did that day. I'm not saying I agree he should have been pardoned, I have only said I don't know enough, but I guess anyone who isn't getting out the pitchforks here is wrong in your eyes. I suppose I could find out, but you guys are making the argument, so make the argument.

[NimbleOcelot]

? That's how the law works. That's not my opinion. Where is this amnesty when it's against Antifa, or BLM? The thing is that you have enough information to know what he did. In any other country, this would be filed under treason. Even in the US, it's considered treason by the word of the law.

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot I want to know what he was actually charged with. What was he convicted of? Was he found guilty? Did he plead guilty? Was there a plea bargain that possibly reduced his charges? He sounds like scum, but without details I don't make snap judgments. If this were Antifa or BLM, I'd say the same thing. I also said the same about Diddy and Jay Z. I don't know, so I'm not going to say. Period.

[NimbleOcelot]

abcnews.go.com/.../story?id=100284409

apnews.com/.../capitol-riot-sentence-daniel-rodriguez-michael-fanone-stun-gun-e9695c314110df4064fc0cd242b58a68

There's nothing extra you really need to know, but here. Multiple felony counts, and ended the officer's career. He admitted to all this. Even if he was only charged with breaking and entering, that would just mean he should have rightfully been charged with more. What matters is the crime he committed and admitted to.

I don't know about you, if the was Antifa breaking into the capital, the right would be screaming for them to be hanged for treasony. Many of them wouldn't even care if there was a trial.

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot was that so hard? Based on that, I don't think that guy should have been pardoned. Which is why I said I didn't agree with blanket pardons.

You want to keep bringing up. Antifa, maybe some people would feel that way, I wouldn't. I believe in due process for everyone, mostly because if due process can be taken from those I don't lile, it can also be taken from me. We have rights for a reason, and they must be protected for a reason.

[Yabbut]

That should read like

[NimbleOcelot]

I don't know why I had to be the one to link that if you wanted the information, though. It gets tiring that the right always wants me to find sources, and then tried to poke holes in it based on opinions, and then refuse when I ask them for sources. Not talking about you specifically, but I don't know why I'm always the one who has to find sources for everyone. Anyway, I still stand by the fact that if the judge sentenced him fairly, based on the law (and if the law was unchanged), and the sentence is reasonable based on what they did, the president has no business pardoning them.

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot if I was making the argument, I'd find the sources. I wasn't.

[NimbleOcelot]

You are the one who wanted it. Why was it on me to find a source that you wanted?

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot because you were the one who rolled in here trying to correct me when I merely said I don't know so I'm not going to say one way or the other. I was happy with that. You had to come in here arguing. So, you got what you got.

[NimbleOcelot]

My point is that you should be looking up things you are questioning. That's the entire reason people trust Trump so much, because they don't try to find out the facts when presented with questionable things.

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot you don't get to decide whst I question. You decided that it was your business to try and school me, so school me. I don't work for you. If you're making the argument, bring the evidence. You didn't have to. You had the option to let it go. It's not my fault you didn't.

[NimbleOcelot]

I'm saying if you see something on the news, and it makes you think, actually think about it. I'm tired of people being super political and not knowing the first thing about what's actually happening. We currently have a president actively turning the US into a dictatorship like in Russia, following the same steps, and you are all saying "it can't be that bad" because you refuse to read or look up information, yet you vote as if you have that info.

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot you don't know that I don't look into those things. There are things that matter to me and things that don't. And to be honest, this didn't matter to me all that much. The same as the Biden pardons didn't either. You will not find a peep for me on that one either. Not everything the other side does is a hill I care to die on. The point ia, you made the argument, you need to provide the evidence. You don't get to decide for me what I spend my time on. I get to decide that and there's nothing you can do about that. I used my vote based on what I deemed important, and that's none of your business. Just as your vote was none of mine. Now, please, go away.

[NimbleOcelot]

I didn't make the argument, I just replied to what you asked me.

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot if you weren't here, trying to input what no on asked for, I wouldn't have asked you for anything.

[NimbleOcelot]

Maybe if people didn't support someone actively trying to become a dictator, I wouldn't have to give my input. I hate politics, but it's necessary now.

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot you don't have to give your input. Everyone doesn't have to think like you. Accept it.

[NimbleOcelot]

You probably should when Trump is actively following Project 2025's guide to a dictatorship.

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot accept it.

[NimbleOcelot]

You WANT a dictatorship?

[NimbleOcelot]

Like Russia?

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot is bitching and browbeating people on here going to change anything? Go out and actually do something if you're that worried about it. Leave me alone. I'm too sick to deal with you today.

[NimbleOcelot]

How is anyone supposed to do anything when half the country is standing in our way because "it can't be that bad." The only way to do anything about it is to make the half that got duped realize they've been duped, so they stop standing in the way of the rest of us actually trying to stop a dictatorship.

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot what part of leave me alone do you not understand? You aren't making me come around to your way of thinking. You're making me want to find you and poke you in the eye. I feel like I've been run over by a bus full of sumo wrestlers and their luggage. I have no patience for your blubbering. Go away.

[NimbleOcelot]

Just look up Project 2025 and it's ties to Trump, and what it plans to do. It's so bad that even Republicans have tried to verbally distance themselves from it, but now they are following it by the book.

[Yabbut]

@NimbleOcelot GO AWAY

[Anonymous]

Where's that energy for the terrible people Biden pardoned?

[seeyounexttuesday]

It's (D) ifferent.

[OddBeMe]

Any cop beaters?

I've gone on record hating all pardons. It's (R) epugnant

[seeyounexttuesday]

lol no you haven’t.

[OddBeMe]

@seeyounexttuesday i have actually. But nice try

[dustybiker2]

It takes a criminal...

[OddBeMe]

https://youtu.be/JSMimcZd7ck

[dustybiker2]

Oooooof
And yup.

[Anonymous]

I don't support violence, but if a game banger gets shot, I don't care. Same things for the cops, they are criminals same as every other gangster/terrorist

[Djaay]

Do cops that beat and kill , rape and do unjustly things to citizens get off without any recreations ?

[OddBeMe]

Not as much until BLM did their thing. Still it goes to jury and we don't like convicting cops

[Djaay]

Right , so most men then get the finger pointed at them for being cop beaters when in fact a lot times it's the cops who initiate the violence. Help me make sense of that

[OddBeMe]

I don't think that happened here. You?

[Djaay]

You know , cops that express themselfs with compassion towards others even when the person is guilty don't hardly ever run into this problem with escalated violence.

[Djaay]

It goes both ways when the police have a problem with treating others and using the color of authority against a person or brutality under the badge to do as they please unjustly. This here is what escalates any problem and then violence takes turns.

[Djaay]

Then you have those with political divide who can't shut they're mouths or contain themselfs publicly on both sides. Right down to all the citizens in America who voice themselfs in a manner of stupidity. Cops included who have they're division politically and barrier the other party in a personal political war of politics. So stereotyping someone as a group of vigilantes is also a harsh reality a lot of cops and citizens get liable with when they f... k up and insult or provoke another person on a personal level. another with they're spoken word's. If everyone , cops included would just stop reaching with they're aggressions and opinionated bs towards other more this problem would desolate a lot more

[Geminiaqua]

What was that Riot about anyway and how was it supposed to help Trump

[OddBeMe]

Stopping biden from being certified by congress as the winner? Oh nuthin

[Geminiaqua]

Why does the country allow for these pardons then

[Anonymous]

why are lefties caring so much about cops? your side wants them defunded anyway

[Anonymous]

It's funny the Dems caring about cops now they're just a tool to beat the opposition with
Just remember ACAB was a whiny liberal organization of the highest Sorosian order

[Austrian_Painter]

I think you would look more beautiful that way.

[Anonymous]

Only if they have the right politics. Trump's Militias are no different than Hitler's SA/ Brownshirts. History is being repeated.

[Dargil]

Do cop killers deserve pardons?

[OddBeMe]

My opinion no.

[Agape93]

Depends on why you beat em

[Tomisworthless]

Patriotic criminals

[Crazzyyworld]

Wowww it’s messed up.

[Anonymous]

You don’t care.

[OddBeMe]

Whyd I ask then?

[Opinion Owner]

Trolling.

[Anonymous]

Pot kettle black.

[OddBeMe]

Pot pardon any cop beaters?