My take on this: I don't know and am not sure.

My take on this: I don't know and am not sure.

Too many people think they can compartmentalize their life and say something like, "Oh, that was before April 3, 2025 and I'm a different person now. That doesn't count!" In reality, you are the sum of ALL of your lifetime experiences and things from 10 years ago "count" just as much as things from 1 year ago.
Thanks for MHO!
It was a feminist objective to destroy marriage and the nuclear family. Mission accomplished.
It is either the whole deal and nothing but the deal or nothing. If girls want to settle down and have babies after their hoe phase is over, they're on their own in my book.
Oh, well...
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It’s wild how some think women should be sentenced to eternal loneliness just because they had a phase. Meanwhile, men be out here with full highlight reels and still expect a standing ovation. Cute logic. 🙃
Most men don't find happiness until they find a true partner. Promiscuity cuts both ways.
I was gonna comment something to the same effect about the double standard. You covered that ground.
Very few men are able to be "hoes" because women are the ones controlling access to "hoedom" and only the very dedicated and manipulative men with urges to be that way are the ones who are like that. It's also a lot of work for men that women seem to think isn't because they can get laid just by turning up.
Do we not live in a supply and demand society that goes beyond economy? I dare say that even passing the salt Shaker in the family table demands a return in investment. I am 100% projecting my own family drama right now but I'm still holding true to my values.
This is the value we bestowed upon all of our children for 200 years growingslowly. Loved one's are nothing but coin-operated objects. You put a coin in and you get a coins worth of song and dance. Now the everyday family man is sharing the same coin operative family connection with billionaires.
The only way out is treating people like people. It's a fucked up world with fucked up expectations but they're are people who want to meet real people. The very same people dealing with the same fucked up expectations. The only way to meet people is where they are. Time is not stopping for anyone and no one has all the answers figured out so the least we can do is pass the salt and find any earnest connection we can in this fucked up world.
Um. I assume by "slut" you mean "having slept with at least one other man in the past" and as someone who does not believe that the number of one's sexual partners actually says that much about them at present, yes, I think it's fine to look for committed romance at some point in your life, even if that was not something you were looking for earlier on. People change, preferences change, and choosing to have sex with people doesn't inherently make you a bad person. You can still be a good partner and have genuine feelings for someone. That goes for people of any gender.
I could say this is how men like me want to be treated after doing the wrong thing, then owning up to it and being a better person. Is that reasonable?
Yes.
If a woman was different younger and is now in a loving, true romance, with support and a man that means the world to her, then she deserves ‘the best’. We all deserve that kind of treatment regardless of what we did when we were young.
Same if it were a man.
Anyone who denies that past behaviour is not a good indicator of future behaviour is naive and defensive about promiscuity. It's not the same for women as it is for men because the whole EFFORT to to become promiscuous is a much different dynamic for men as it is for women.
No. Many of them after hoeing, wouldn't know how to be in stable relationship - in the long term anyway. They'll likely mess it up, with either cheating, or creating drama. Because they haven't been used of being stable with a guy for a decent period of their lives, so they're likely not to be able to suddenly change their spots, in the long term, and become stable in a relationship.
Just depends on the body count. But most men and women don't like to hear that their body count is a huge predictor of their relationship success.
Not at all.



Unless they're hot or REALLY lucky, that's unreasonable !!!
Depends on every individual man and their preferences.
Expectation doesn't really have anything to do with it. Porn stars get married. No one said life is fair.
Nah, she's for the streets
Once a whore always a whore
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