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In 2025, the U. S. has experienced a significant number of mass shootings, with 398 incidents resulting in 390 deaths and 1,778 injuries as of November 30, 2025.
A red flag goes up every time I hear the term "mass" shootings. It is designed to conjure images of mass murder. It is designed to generate fear.
But look at the reality. 398 incidents resulting in 390 deaths. Less than one death per incident?
1,778 injuries? That's like counting scraped knees or broken bones.
Even if there were 398 incidents, which I doubt, the FBI says that 80% of firearm related incidents are gang related.
Plus there are over 80 million honest gun owners in this country, around 345 million citizens, and over 450 million people in the country at any one time.
So how are 390 deaths even significant?
40,000 people a year die from accidental falls. There are 40,000 annual vehicular fatalities. 40,000 die from accidental poisoning per year. 250,000 die from hospital error. How many die as a result of pharmaceuticals and vaccines?
Gun control advocates like Michael Bloomberg with his multiple astroturf anti-gun rights organizations never give up. They use emotionalism and count on the fact that people won't use common sense or do any research.
I don’t stop it, I don’t have political power.
What we can do is elect leaders who want to fix the issue and not listen to NRA and Gun Lobbyist Groups who want their agenda met at the expense of the American people.
A lot of people are sold the idea of a divided nation so, torn apart that we can’t discuss and reach common consensus. A lot of responsible gun owners support the notion of background checks, preventing certain individuals with mental health challenges or criminal records from easily accessing a gun, and raising the minimum age to get a legally acquired firearm.
Majority of people even say we need better gun education out there so, parents who own a firearm don’t end up putting loved ones at harms way in their own home where most gun incidents happen. Many support gun buy back programs so, there are less guns out on the streets which prevents them falling into the wrong hands too.
Lauren Boebert (Republican) once said after 9/11 we didn’t ban guns although as everyone with a functioning brain has known, we put restrictions and regulations on airports also DHS to ensure protection domestically from foreign terrorists so, another 9/11 never happens again. So logic would have it, that we do the same thing when it comes to any other crisis including the gun epidemic.
Not to mention, that Southern States tend to have higher homicide rates (since a lot of people try to find a way out of the argument by blaming more “Liberal” states).
The fact is, guns don’t care if you are red or blue since we see people like Charlie Kirk and Donald J Trump, Minnesota Lawmakers and more put at harms way. We need to fix the issue and it doesn’t come at the cost of the 2nd Amendment or limiting its power.
Thank you for MHO
You don't. No matter what you do, no matter what laws or restrictions or bans you enact, it won't make a difference. Even if you magically deleted every last gun in the nation and magically stopped all smugglers, you can still 3d print them or make ones out of pipes.
What you do, is don't glorify them. No news mentioning their names or pictures. You destroy every record of their lives. They mass kill to enact social awareness of them and their desires. Deny it and you stop the main motivation.
I don't agree, strict gun restrictions will definitely help. Maybe not reduce it to 0 but still... Think about why this is a problem almost exclusively to the US. It's not like the media isn't reporting about this kind of things in other countries...
Easily available guns might not be the only problem, but it's a big part of it. Other countries have shown that you can get gun violence into control.
Those nations also don't have a culture and legal framework supporting gun access and usage. You'd have to fundamentally change a nation that does not want that fundamental change in its rights, especially when you cannot guarantee safety for us and loved ones. So restrictions and bans will do nothing but cause more violence. I know this because I'd be among those numbers, as why should my rights be taken so a handful of people a year don't get shot?
"Why should my rights be taken so a handful of people a year don't get shot?" That's the stupidest argument ever. At what number do we exceed a handful? Is 7.1 million more than a handful? That's the worldwide deaths from COVID-19. But of course, that's less than 5% of those who get it, so really, it's not all that much. So just a handful die, so the whole point of a vaccine was pointless.
They can't be prevented because 95% of mass shootings are false flag operations intended to change the Constitution regarding the 2nd Amendment.
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396 incidents? Stop being so gullible and believing everything you hear. There were not anywhere near that many. Whenever you see big numbers like that, they come from anti-gun groups that exaggerate the hell out of the numbers. Those numbers have been completely debunked.
The only realistic numbers come from the FBI, and 2025 data has not been compiled and released yet. The most recent number was 24, not hundreds. The number of deaths was 23, not hundreds. The number of wounded was 83, not a couple of thousand.
I won't give publicity to the place that originates most of those huge numbers, but they have been so debunked that the numbers they toss around are completely meaningless.
@WindAtMyBack There's truth in your reply here but that's because of the difference in the definition of mass shooting. The FBI's definition will make it look much lower...
Mass shooting statistics vary widely depending on how each organization defines a "mass shooting":
📊 Gun Violence Archive (GVA)
Definition: 4+ people shot or killed (any context, including gang/domestic incidents)
Typical Annual Count: ~400–650 incidents/year
📊 Everytown for Gun Safety
Definition: 4+ people killed (excludes shooter)
Typical Annual Count: Much lower than GVA
📊 Mother Jones
Definition: 3+ people killed, in a public place, indiscriminate targeting
Typical Annual Count: ~10–20 incidents/year
📊 FBI (Active Shooter Incidents)
Definition: Individual actively killing or attempting to kill in a populated area (not strictly a mass shooting definition)
Typical Annual Count: ~40–60 incidents/year
⚠️ There is no single federal definition of "mass shooting," which is why you'll see dramatically different numbers depending on the source. Always check which definition is being used before comparing statistics.
Using only the FBI's narrow "active shooter" definition about 40–60 incidents/year significantly downplays the true scale of gun violence in America. The U. S. experiences far more gun violence than most other developed nations regardless of which definition is used. The debate over definitions should never obscure that reality.
Sources: gunviolencearchive. org fbi. gov everytownresearch. org motherjones. com
@Friendlybro79
"because of the difference in the definition of mass shooting. "
Exactly and that is my point. The OP and most anti-gun groups use the most inflated numbers they can find.
It's about perception in the public eye. When people hear about a mass shooting, or a school shooting, what image do they conjure up? The anti-gun people use numbers for events that are far different than what people think of as a mass shooting.
What do you think of when you hear about a school shooting? You think of someone going in a school and shooting away. If someone fires a gun on school property on a Saturday when nobody is around, is that what you think of when hear about a school shooting? If events like that are called a school shooting in the public debate, it's an implied lie.
"Using only the FBI's narrow "active shooter" definition about 40–60 incidents/year significantly downplays the true scale of gun violence in America."
Think about that. That does not in any way downplay gun violence. It does not decrease the number of murders. It's only a matter of classification. I wouldn't even call it a narrow definition. I'd call it a more accurate definition because it more closely fits what the public think of when they hear about a mass shooting.
Are the people that were hurt or killed by those inflated numbers not worthy of counting for some reason? When you're concerned about gun violence you're not concerned about semantics do that you can deflate the severity of something. That's their thought. I understand yours and not trying to be disrespectful.
I agree with a lot of what you said if that wasn't clear in my last reply. Thanks
@Friendlybro79
"Are the people that were hurt or killed by those inflated numbers not worthy of counting for some reason?"
Come on now! This is about public perception. It's about knowing what you are actually dealing with.
It's like those propositions that are on state ballots. One group says it does one thing, and another group says it does something else. How the hell am I supposed to vote on it if I don't even know what it does?
People can classify things how they want. But if they use one definition and imply another, it's a lie. Combine that with sensationalized media and people really don't know what they are dealing with.
You have public outcry about school shootings. They put guards in school, practice sheltering, and generally scare kids that some big bad boogie man might kill them. The reality is that schools are one the safest places a kid can be. It's safer than their home. Safer than riding in a car to the movie. Safer than their own back yard where they might get hit by lightning. Did you know that a child is more likely to get hit by lightning than get killed in a school shooting?
It's about putting things in perspective and not playing on emotions.
It's not about playing with emotions it's about not trying to make the numbers look better defining something in a way that it actually does. No one cares about the semantics of oh it's one shy of a mass shooting so doesn't count. Schools are still safe but not as safe as they used to be. Those things matter.
You don't have to agree that they but others do and that's not playing emotions despite the fact of a friend or a family member murdered by a gun wants better laws to protect us.
If you think it's safe in schools now that's fair but we should do more to make them safer.
Ugh I need to edit the above reply. I but submit while I was proofreading it and it's barely coherent. Just ignore that. You're not getting an accurate understanding of what I was trying to say and it's my fault. I hit submit by accident.
False flag operations have been standard operating procedure for millenniums because they work. Groups, including many in government want gun control. Shooting didn't increase 100fold because people are different. They enormous increases are due to false flag operations. They don't care if 10,000 people die if they get gun control.
Don’t have a population of 350 million.
The statistical fact is, with so many people you will have exponentially more events of violence
If you take a country with a population of 20 million for example, if they had 2 mass shootings it would be the same as the US having 17.5 mass shootings.
When you accept that per capita considerations are important when counting anything you’ll notice that the US is a relatively safe place
It’s just people enjoy getting outraged online and even one shooting is enough to fuel their anger fetish
You really have no clue about statistics, do you?
"The statistical fact is, with so many people you will have exponentially more events of violence "
The fact that the US has to split Wikipedia pages of mass shootings should be a hint.
Another: "The United States has had the most mass shootings of any country in the world" (it does not have the largest population in the world).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shooting#United_States
"31 percent of all public mass shooters from 1966 to 2012 attacked in the United States, although the U. S. had less than five percent of the world's population"
The US is the third largest populated country.
Behind India and China
India has too much poverty and China is a totalitarian regime with 0 freedoms.
Both places don’t report even half the atrocities that take place every day
So that leaves the US taking the first spot paying the price for transparency.
The reality doesn’t change
More people, more chances for crime, in the case of mass murder, it’s an exponential increase not linear
"Exponentially" doesn't mean what you seem to think it means. "31 percent of all public mass shooters from 1966 to 2012 attacked in the United States, although the U. S. had less than five percent of the world's population" proves the opposite and means the US is an outlier, in a bad way.
More guns, more chances for mass shootings.
Now you brought up guns, I didn’t say anything about guns.
And that was on purpose:
I’ve had this same old conversation a million times here for the past 9 years.
Its the same arguments for and against
Against: “oh look people are dying”
For: “guns are just a tool not the source of the problem”
The reality is, if we like to hear it or not, once guns become common in society there is no unringing that bell
Just because people die doesn’t mean the entire population will willingly hand over their guns and begin carry
…Flowers.
It’s too late
The only viable option is a cultural change that starts with acknowledging that people’s insistence on owning guns isn’t for the shape or the smell but because deep down they are all afraid to be caught with their pants down
And that fear won’t go away in the current generation.
But it could begin to fade with the next one
Only by continuing to antagonize the gun owners of today you will ensure they raise their kids to hate you and protect their guns just like they did.
Endless vicious cycle fueled by good intentions
Put people committing the gun violence or breaking gun laws behind bars for longer than a couple days. The "mass shootings" you're talking about, is almost exclusively gang violence. Most of the perpetrators shouldn't even have guns, most have rap sheets a mile long, live in areas with the strictest gun laws but yet, they are on the streets committing crimes.
U. S. murder rate in 2025 hits lowest level since 1900, report says
Murders fell 21% last year in 35 large U. S. cities — the biggest one-year drop ever and likely the lowest rate since 1900, Axios-reviewed data shows.
By the numbers:
11 of 13 tracked crimes were lower in 2025 than in 2024, according to data compiled by the Council on Criminal Justice.
Nine offenses declined by 10% or more.
Aggravated assaults fell by 9%, and gun assaults and robbery tumbled by 22% and 23%, respectively.
Drug crimes are up 7%, the lone category to increase.
👀 📰🗞️ I would say as a non-American that, because it's established in the U. S. Constitution the Second Amendment of the right for Americans to bear arms, in America, I guess that's like asking why and when will crimes of any type ever stop, why we as societies have prisons and courts, why violence happens in any country - I think world peace ✌️🕊️ is always my fave daydream - that said, again even I read somewhere how even California, strict as they are, cannot override the 2nd Amendment.
Supposedly even the U. S. President's official oath is to the Constitution, isn't it, first 🥇🙃 and foremost the document first 📄 📜
For starters stop giving mentally unstable people guns.
Stop over prescribing anti depressants. Virtually every mass shooter is on some form of antidepressants. They warp the brain.
The US used to have it all figured out with the second amendment. Now that we have states that just completely ignore it ("All laws which are repugnant to the
Constitution are null and void." Marbury vs.
Madison (1803)) those places are crawling with gun crime.
You don't. Mass killings in the US and other countries have been happening for millennia. You try to reduce them by creating a good and peaceful society, but it is folly to try to stop them.
First why the hell do they happen?
Work on community, have young men hav third spaces social,
Increase moral values and decrease virtue signalling.
Care about/love your fellow man.
Challenge entitlement.
Remove guns. Of course, that won't happen, but fewer guns mean fewer mass shootings. The good guy with a gun theory fails because you don't know who a bad guy with a gun is until he starts shooting. If he sees said good guy, that's the person shot first. Also, a good guy could miss. My sister is a good person who can fire a gun. She can't aim that well, so she'd probably miss the bad guy if she had a gun.
Murder in every form such as stabbing, shooting, strangulation or poisoning etc will likely never stop.
It’s unfortunate but it’s just reality. The world will always likely have good and bad humans in it.
I wonder if the user named WindAtMyBack ever thought maybe he is the one that is misinformed.
The USA has over 300 million people. It’s a very large place.
Every mass shooter should just be used for science experiments. And it should be experiments being run by small teams owned by conglomerate companies so you know whatever going on is evil as hell.
Remember the "purge" movies? Hand out guns and declare a purge period. Let people get anarchy and murder out of their systems. Law and order will seem more appealing afterwards.
Bring back prayer in public schools. It is like the soccer game. It will help stop those really bad people who get through the other defenses.
Look and see how many mass shootings there were before 1961 when prayer was removed from public schools. Then do a little more research and see that automatic weapons or not illegal back then people had machine guns legally. Look up when mass shooting started to spike in the United States. It’s really not that hard to spot a trend.
Americans caring about each other would be a step. Where other countries have social safety nets and mental health services, the USA has prisons.
That's like asking how do you stop evil, the answer is you can't. The best you can do in equip yourself with the neccessary tools not to become a victim when evil things happen
That will only work if guns are no longer in circulation which will be impossible since there so many already out there.
Teach people how to box. These Samoan gangsters complained that Americans don't wanna resolve their issues with their fists anymore, they just wanna fist fight
By doing what other countries have done to stop mass shootings -- gun control.
Create economic stability for the majority of the population.
If I had the answer to that question I likely could be the next President with a landslide!
u you can't stop nature...
human nature
Shoot back!! If there's a greater risk for the shooter, they won't be as keen to try to pull it off!!
You can't, even here in gunless England we still get a mass shooting roughly once a decade
Whatever merits gun control has, it's effectively impossible to get them out of circulation at this point. The more reasonable solution is to undo Reagan's greatest mistake and reopen the insane asylums.
You shouldn't.
It's practically a sport at this point.
Figure out how to stop black people from doing gang shootings.
Make it nearly impossible for criminals and the mentally deranged to get guns, plus outlaw "cop killer" bullets and military-sytle ammo from getting into civilians' hands.
Getting rid of SSRIs, cleaning up the food supply, look into agencies, secret societies, etc... who are pushing these events as an excuse (Hegelian Dialectic: Problem > Reaction > Solution) And bring it to an end.
You don't. Guns and ammunition will not be outlawed. unfortunately crazy people will not be outlawed either.
Shooting back does wonders. But the women said no.
A good question. Maybe cracking down on illegitimate gun dealers?
Start with the parents.
Fix mental health issues
make gun shows illegal
Better education, Better mental health care,
Run in a zig zag pattern?😆
Stronger gun laws.
Leave the USA
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