A Colorado athlete knocked himself out of the competition rather than wrestling a girl. What are your thoughts on this? Here the link is www.mercurynews.com/.../
That's his choice, have to respect his choice what he's comfy with. Me, I'd wrestle her and try to beat her fast as long as I didn't think I'd hurt her. If the girl made it through wrestling practice and that far, then show her respect by competing. I wrestled my girlfriend once, I'm not saying how that went, need to know only:) But...
I raced against female athletes when young, twice I recall they beat me. grrr. One beat me by a few ft in 50yd dash and she ended up being an Olympic medalist. The other I only saw once, but she was better than I on a dirt bike on that day. It does not feel good to be beat by gurls! Props to the girls... they broke some frames in my mind those days when all I knew of them was they took hours in the bathroom and and put a lot of sticky spray in their hair.
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i think he's falling "victim" to the societal constructs we have put in place.
i feel like boys like this wrestler are in a tough position and we need to look to parents and society to help change our perspectives.
I wrestled in high school, it was mixed sex and ice had coaches tell mine that they won't wrestle me. It happens, idc. I was on varsity in my weight class, lost some, won some. Made it to states once, but my opponet what last year's state champ, so yeah lol but it was awesome competing. I would never force someone to do it. Some don't for religious or moral reasons. I can see why some wouldn't Also, I gave 3 guts boners and learned there's a protocol for that situation lol but to knock ones self out, that's a bit excessive
If a guy gets a boner during a match, we stop it and the players go back to their team, the guy has 5 minutes to gain composer and if it doesn't go down in 5 minutes, the opposite team gets the win for half points.
No guys I wrestled with ever wore cups nor did they wear underwear under their singlets. Trust me, it easy to tell. Also, I've won twice that way. On the other the guy went down and he didn't get it again. The other times, the guys boners wouldn't go down so I won by default.
That is HIGHLY illegal. Its considered foul play. Of course it happens though. I've went to grab a dudes leg behind me and he shifted and I grabbed his nuts by accident. I didn't do it hard, like I knew what it was insistently and removed my hand. Ref didn't see, but I said "shit! Sorry!" He understood it was an accident, we both giggled at that, but we continued to wrestle. I actually had a teammate who's male opponents grabbed his balls and squeezed. He screamed and cursed at him because it was on purpose.
Yes. With a girl its more personal. I am way more aggressive with a girl than a boy. While I would be aggressive with a boy competitor, I always did go a bit more harder with another girl. With boys, I look at it a way of improvement, with a girl, posing was not an option. There was only a handful of girls I've wrestled in high school, not surprising, it was fun just to see another girl, because doesn't matter the weight, we would wrestle together. Even if I was on Varsity and she was on JV, they'd have me wrestle her when JV had their turns to wrestle. It was more personal when it was me and another girl.
I expected a lot of them to have upper body strength, in middle school however, and through high school after or before wrestling season, I did Brazilian JiuJitsu. I learned many ways to get out of headlocks and I gained a lot of flexibility. Strength is important, but whats even more important , Stamina and teqnique. In order to really use your strength in wrestling you need to get your partner in a hold that they can't get out of, however, I knew ways to not get put in those situations, also, because BJJ focuses on the person being able to to withstand a lot before they want to tap out, I was able to hold my breathe and keep going to long period of time. The thing with me to, i used my flexibility in my favor. I was able to bend and twist in ways that the guys could not and they'd either lose their grip, not enough stamina, they'd leave an opening for me to get around their hold and use it against them, I was much better on the ground that standing, mostly because the guys were always taller than me, also, I was more accustomed to work on the ground. a lot of the time, tje boys would start of gentle with me, because they aren't used to fighting a girl, I could always tell, so, not gonna lie, I would do things to piss them off, shove their head back, which was allowed or my favorite, while standing up, id hook my arms under their armpits and id do this thing we called "the whip" where id lift them alittle and fall forward with my legs sprawled behind me so the person I'm holding would face plant into the Matt. This would wake them up and get then going. I've jad matcjes where me and My opponent kept javing to stop because we were both bleeding, it was fun! You really didn't know it until someone pointed it out, like my coach told me to wipe my mouth so I did with my arm, come to find I had wiped a long trail of blood up my arm, had to wash it off lol
Do you see any real reason he shouldn’t have wrestled against her? I don’t I think it’s a little sexist that he would deny her the opportunity based on gender alone.
Of course there was real reason! I've heard and seen allll the reasons. I even had to go to an all boys catholic school, I actually laughed because not only was their a giant cross in the room, I knew I wouldn't get a match. But again, I would never make someone wrestle me if they didn't feel comfortable. He could have not wanted to because he felt it was no point, religious reasons, moral reasons or so many reasons. For me, I don't personally take it to heart, I know their are differences, I recognized that being a girl and having to go up against a boy, he might think less of me or he just wants to be respectful and not wrestle one. I still had plenty of matches, with a handful of those who didn't want to. It's not like they screamed in my face, told me i was trash, etc. They were very respectful a, d its about fun, if my partner isn't having fun, I would rather him and i sit that one out rather then force then into something they don't want to do. And honestly, I was happy sometimes, because there where days were I didn't feel up for a match, usually on my period days, so I didn't mind lol. But while sometimes it got annoying, I didn't take it to heart. I couldn't even practice with my male coaches during practice, because they said if someone walked in, it could look bad. I understood. It sucked, but its just the way it is.
I just feel like gender should make no difference they both signed up to wrestle as long as everyone plays by the rules it’s fair game. The only reasons he gave where physical contact and he said we don’t treat girls like that. It’s messed up that he made her travel all that way just to say no I don’t feel like wrestling today in my opinion.
Well in my eyes, as a girl and having been through all there is in that area, its not black and white. What some seem as unfiar, some see was fair. I would never put someone's religous or moral beliefs to the side because I wanted to wrestle. To me, that's not fair to them. We are not getting paid to wrestle, its a school sport, its for fun. Also, some might be afraid to get a boner and don't wanna risk it. I would never want my partner to feel uncomfortable getting something he can't control. To me, that's almost shaming him. The boy in the article seemed highly respectable and he seemed to be sincere. Again, with male and female mixed sports, there will always be a shadow for some people, which will make then uncomfortable. Its not to be belittled. It will ALWAYS be there. We are there to have fun, I have had plenty of matches where a partner didn't care, many boys don't care, but I'm not going to shame those who didn't want to, that's just not right in my opinion.
Honestly, not really. My teammates treated me fairly, they were awesome and many people didn't care about my gender. Its people on media like this case that actually give a shit. But its really not that prevalent
He walked away knowing that he was giving up a chance for a state championship, it certainly hurt his career.
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Varsity wrestler here girls can easily get away with grabbing the balls because the ref doesn’t enforce the rules as strictly when a girl does something like that. I had a few matches where girls have grabbed me there and squeezed hard and when I grunted and groaned they just squeezed harder. The ref didn’t do anything and my only saving grace from not getting pinned from that was the whistle to end the round. She just got up and walked to the other side of the mat while I sat there for a a minute holding myself o recover. Guys never play dirty like this but most girls do I notice. The other time it happened I was on top of her on my knees and she was on her knees too in like a crawling position like me but her heel connected with my balls and I knew it was on purpose because I felt her tap there a few times to see if she was on target and the exact moment I clinched in a painful hold she swung it up hard forcing me to roll off. Again my only savior was the round ending before she pinned me but I’ve lost a few times that way. I’ve considered wearing compression underneath at least because it’s all so vulnerable when it hangs freely. Did you ever go there on purpose to get an advantage because these girls did it constantly and barely tried to hide it. I just want a clean match against a girl :(
It really comes down to why he chose not to, one was religious beliefs the other is the idea that men should not be aggressive with women. Both are admirable, he gave up a chance for a state championship over this, it was honorable and ultimately his decision. I think a lot of women don't understand how much pressure guys are put under for not hitting girls... guys, at least most guys simply will not hit a woman doesn't matter what she does (in fact 70% of all one sided domestic abuse is guys being beat by their girlfriends or wives. Guys who don't hit women).
And now some women have issues with a guy who "won't get aggressive with women." His words. Seems very double standard ro me.
I think its ridiculous. Doesn't matter if it's a Male or a female you're supposed to wrestle, you're in the sport to wrestle so do it. Dont make the girl feel less of a player because you dont want to wrestle a female. Buck up, wrestle the damn girl and possibly lose to her. 🤷♀️🤷♀️
Then why is he a wrestler? It's okay to have morals. But be it male or female, your opponent is your opponent. And you don't turn your back on your opponent.
It really doesn't matter what he signed up for. Girls are entitled to wrestling as guys are. Therefore you should expect the unexpected. I am not judging him for his decision. But at the same time he has to be mindful that he cannot always get what he wants. They will always throw these things out there. Sally what's going to happen when a girl beats his tell? Then was going to be the situation? If he's not willing to fight a girl for the right reasons Dan is going to make him look like a coward common in women as well as his peers is going to lose respect for him. Unless it was proven to be illegal and not a fair fight, is on him. Otherwise I'm going to need the facts on this one. But that is my overall opinion.
It's pretty normal. Normally we do not mix gender when doing a sport so he was probably embarrassed by it / afraid to hurt the girl or refused to do it because of his morals.
He's absolutely fine. I felt uncomfortable wrestling girls in high school too. I also knew I was going to get hard as fuck during and that would have been embarrassing lol.
He said he wouldn't for two reasons One because he didn't want that kind of close physical contact, due to religious beliefs and he didn't want to be aggressive with a woman. That boys don't hit girls... seems pretty reasonable to me.
Because men should not try to take advantag of a girl in sports that is those trannie psychos need to stay out of girl's sports or even better yet stay the F out of the entire US
most guys would rather lay on top of a girl than guy
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I don’t think it has to do with strength. In wrestling you end up in awkward positions, like your head on her chest, stuff like that.. Or maybe he was afraid to loose?
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Anonymous1 yVarsity wrestler here girls can easily get away with grabbing the balls because the ref doesn’t enforce the rules as strictly when a girl does something like that. I had a few matches where girls have grabbed me there and squeezed hard and when I grunted and groaned they just squeezed harder. The ref didn’t do anything and my only saving grace from not getting pinned from that was the whistle to end the round. She just got up and walked to the other side of the mat while I sat there for a a minute holding myself o recover. Guys never play dirty like this but most girls do I notice. The other time it happened I was on top of her on my knees and she was on her knees too in like a crawling position like me but her heel connected with my balls and I knew it was on purpose because I felt her tap there a few times to see if she was on target and the exact moment I clinched in a painful hold she swung it up hard forcing me to roll off. Again my only savior was the round ending before she pinned me but I’ve lost a few times that way. I’ve considered wearing compression underneath at least because it’s all so vulnerable when it hangs freely. Did you ever go there on purpose to get an advantage because these girls did it constantly and barely tried to hide it. I just want a clean match against a girl :(0|00|0
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