Cincinnati Reds Broadcaster Thom Brennaman Suspended After On-Air Homophobic Slur (Page 2)
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I feel bad for the guy. Those are the times we live in. Silencing people does not change the way that they feel it just makes those who are offended feel powerful at the expense of someone's life long career. Remember though that this will come for all of you too. Eventually the group that you're bad mouthing and cursing out will be protected as well
I don't support calling someone a slur but for someone to lose there job over it is tyranny and what it end up doing is turning more people against whatever community it is meant to protect
Zero terance is one of the most evil concepts ever. It goes against human nature in regards to change and forgivness.
He said "Gay Economy" I think. What is the big deal? I don't know what that means. I still say stuff like that is Gay. I also think people are way too sensitive today. If you don't think Gay people make straight jokes you are fooling yourself. I try to stay aways from Gay people myself. Makes me feel uncomfortable. It is still not normal behavior. I guess a handicap.
Saying its gay is ok. But he used a slur that has very dark backstory. Either way making fun of a minority on something that should be neutral is shit.
What a dumb-motherfucker. He deserves to be fired. If your job is to broadcast on the air, you should never let your guard down, and ASSUME you're on the air and that the mic is LIVE, the entire time you're working, just in case.
I agree his apology is fake , and you don't just change your opinions that quickly. I think he was in total damage control.
I dont think what he did was the worst thing in the world, but he definitely should be punished. You can't say this sort of stuff in 2020.
current year fallacy, you can say whatever you want in 2020
@007kingifrit But it doesn't make you immune from any consequences!!
Yeah it was bizarre and uncalled for. And his apology was only half of what it should have been. I never liked him as a broadcaster anyway.
So he said people are gay and it's bad cause they don't like being gay or don't want to be, so they are also thinking they are wrong for being gay too or don't like to be reminded of it they must know they gay so what's the problem, they don't want a gay city or something thought they would like that being gay this is weird is it not?
So he said fag? Like I dont get why it's such a big deal. If he wants to call gay people fags then he is allowed to. I dont think he should lose his job over using a inappropriate word
LOL cancel culture at its finest.. Destroy as man's life over something he said.. This is exactly why i have ZERO respect for any of the "Special" Communities including the alphabet people. you and your kind make me sick..
Not cancel culture, he said something offensive and being held accountable for that. He's not being cancelled for disagreeing with his views. Replace homophobic slur with N word.
@Oram52 no matter what his words are... Its cancel culture.. End of story end of discussion Now screw off leftist.
I'm a Libertarian, the fact you had to resort to insults instead of providing alternative view point says it all. So if someone uses N word and faces the consequences for racism he should face no consequences? In Trump era it may feel like such language can be tolerated but you'd be wrong!
@Oram52 I didn't insult you i told you the truth.. Lets remove the fact that he is a television presenter.. Lets make him a lumber yard worker.. Lets change the scenario to where he is off work and hanging out with his friends. He said what he said, because he offended someone in the room that person reports him to his job and he loses his job... Was that right? Because things like that happen too. Thats where i have issues with it.. Sure sanction him. Fine him.. But to completely lose his source of income.. No thats not acceptable.
@Oram52 But people like you jump straight to the jugular and want him ended.. because he said an offensive word, One he would not have said if he knew the mic was live.. People like you are just sickening.
If that was a company policy yes it was right to fire him. Work places includes varied people, different religions, ethnicity, sexuality etc. If it was my company yes I'd have strict policy against any such language.
Perhaps firing someone is harsh suspension yes, repeated offense no doubt fired. Such language has no place in a civilized country, period!
@Oram52 It has every place in a civilized culture.. And the reason i called you a leftist is you're against free speech.. Offensive speech, Hate speech, Is every part of the first amendment. In any case a persons private time should not be touchable by an employee.. But i will never convince you.. I also am a libertarian.. One of the core beliefs of my group is Free speech should be protected at all costs.. Maybe you missed that one.. And if you did you're not a libertarian end of discussion.
I defend free speech to the core, even hateful speech, hate speech is also free speech said it many times. It does *NOT* however make you immune from criticism or consequences. Others also have freedom of speech to criticize hateful speech, others also have freedom of choice to take action against hateful speech and actions.
Everyone is free to express anything they desire to do in a free country, others also are free in a free country to make decisions and take action against such speech. Which is better using hateful speech or standing against it?
Free speech is protected at all costs, you seem to not accept other people's freedom of choice, they also have freedom of choice. Facebook is private time yet it could be full of xenophobic racist material. They are not immune from consequences even if free to express anything they desire. Somebody could be part of far right group and take part in hateful rally, they are absolutely 100% free to do so, they are not however free from consequences. There is NO safe space, freedom of speech by default means no safe spaces.
As a society we should be using our freedom of speech to stand against hate, stand for our values, stand up for people so they are not marginalized, ridiculed, and target of hate. Holding people accountable is not cancel culture, its like saying somebody who commits criminal offense and is charged they should not face any action. If you use homophobic slurs then yes you deserve to be penalized, a civilized country should stand against such language. Maybe being fired is harsh it does not however mean there should be no consequences or at least should be reprimanded.
@Oram52 Yeah im not talking about written speech or even facebook/twitter.. Im talking about spoken stuff.. In any case.. Im glad i work for a company that stands up for its employees.. Someone tried to get me fired because i said something someone else didn't like.. That person proceeded to bombard my companies Facebook page... I work in the IT industry, Its not smart to do anything like that. She exorcised her freedom of choice sure, but my company responded with a single message to her containing her home address, her phone number, her vehicle tag numbers, her social security number, and her two bank account numbers and, politely informed her that if she didn't want that information to become public she should leave me alone. by the way this was because i said "Women like you that treat men like an accessory, no more, are disgusting, like a virus, not eve human".
Yes she was harassing you. You didn't say something offensive like homophobic, or racist. If your company stood up for you if you had made homophobic comments then yes that would be appalling, your company would be worse too.
Regardless while I do not agree with that woman's actions even though she does have the right to express counter argument without harassing, doxxing is unacceptable too. Your company has no right to reveal that employees information, and its against the law. If hers can be released managers and other people's can be released too.
Like I said if it was my company I would use my freedom of speech and choice to stand up for civilized values, and stand up against hate and bigotry.
@Oram52 she was not an employee.. She was a random person... my company is filled with "hackers" though none of us really do that, we build server infrastructures. We also dont tolerate people harrassing our techs, which is what she was doing. She felt it was sexist what i said.. which it was not..
@Oram52 that's the definition of cancel culture
if you don't support and protect hate speech you're a bad person
@007kingifrit Nope, it is NOT!!
If you re-read my comments above rather me simply restating it. I do absolutely protect hate speech, ahte speech is also free speech. It doesn't mean they are owed safe space!!
"You're a cigarette" lol
Biggest mistake people make it apologizing 😂
I would double down! Like yeah those fags are gross! I call it like I see it! And I am expert at that!
Never apologize!
Your ass will be fired!!
@Oram52 most of these people get fired anyways 😂
I would just find another job
Change your profile now. You dont love everyone, you dont think everyone deserves dignity and respect, so change your goddamn profile right now!ðŸ˜
@Godofmyownwurld Haha stop stalking my profile :p
If his apology is fake, which it is, it doesn't mean anything. No use being a bigot and a liar. Better to just be a bigot :p
If former soccer player, Jamie Carragher, can keep his punditry job after spitting at a family’s car on camera, then I disagree that this commentator should be fired for using this word once
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I think it's hilarious how you people keep banging on about your alleged freedom of speech and how us Europeans are oppressed and then shit like this happens.
in your country its literally illegal to criticize the gays. this guy got suspended but most people don't approve of him getting suspended its just corporations and sjw on twitter
True, in the UK you can get arrested for hate speech.
are we supposed to be offended because he was right? or because of the insensitive way he said it? I'm confused when to unleash my outrage anymore. I'm still mad about the announcer making fun of white guys and their haircuts after a NBA game the other day. I thought shit like that was racist and we're supposed to be mad and get people fired and make sure they never work again for stuff like that. I need to read the SJW handbook of when it's okay to reeeee.
Oh em gee he used a word, that probably killed thousands of people!
... Fucking snowflakes.
Fine him and suspended him. He shouldn't be forced to forfeit his career.
Very unfortunate, but he should not be fired for it. We need to stop destroying the lives of public figures who make mistakes that were never intended to harm anyone.
His true thoughts were said when he didn't think it was on the air. I would have more respect for him if he just owned it and didn't start apologizing.
Who the fuck cares? Fucking whiny ass liberals, no one gives two shits about it