@ThisDudeHere I know I use some slurs in private (I'm bi and make a lot of gay jokes and such) and if he was remorseful I could understand where he's coming from
These bloody snowflakes need to stop getting their fucking knickers in a twist, stop throwing their dummies out of their prams, and have their fucking ass's kicked.
Kill him. What he said was offensive, and if you offend anyone for any reason what so ever, then something serious might happen, like they might get offended.
He said fag. XX is one of the biggest fag cities, or something like that. The city he was talking about wasn't broadcast as only the last part of his comment was picked up when the broadcast resumed after an ad break.
Yea you dont like gays but they exist. They dont like being called slurs. If people started saying slurs about you then you wouldn't feel very good either
See if he had said this about the Giants instead of the Cardinals, I don't think anyone would have called him wrong.
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I like how mgtow incels suddenly turns into homophobic people in the comment section but they are the one who omplain about me being homophobic whenever i call them fag.
@007kingifrit I precisely do, I absolutely defend free speech, hate speech is also free speech. But free speech goes both ways, same way they have right to be bigoted same way others also free to criticize it, and use freedom of speech to stand up for marginalized.
@007kingifrit What correlation is there between taking action and not supporting free speech? In no way they've been prevented freedom of expression. You're instead demanding safe space for them, which no one is owed. You can not have freedom of speech and safe spaces at same time.
@007kingifrit Clearly you've not read any of my comments above. Safe space is term used when leftwing want to put restrictions on free speech, so it is used to tell them you can't expect free speech, like they want on campuses.
Again no one is owed freedom from consequences. Its like saying they can continue to use antisemitism, racism, homophobia etc and expect not to be fired from their jobs. Freedom of speech goes both ways, freedom of choice goes both ways.
They are absolutely free to spew hate, bigotry racism etc. They are not free from others using THEIR freedom of speech and choice to stand up for our values, liberty and stand up for people who are marginalized and target of hate.
Freedom from consequences is relative and subjective. Freedom of speech requires NO direct restrictions put on an individual, be it state, religious institutions or culture/society. It doesn't mean they are *owed* safe space where they could spew anything they desired, and others couldn't use their freedom of expression to criticize them, use their freedom of choice to stand up against hate and take action. You seem to be confusing these things. One individual using the right to freedom of speech even if bigoted does NOT mean other individuals are now required to remain silent, and say or do nothing. Free speech means freedom of expression for everyone.
Their is a difference between someone being a target for unpopular opinion, where they maybe shamed or cancelled to silence them.
AND
Somebody spewing clearly hateful, xenophobic, racist language, and try to stand against that.
No one is stopping any individual to be bigoted, freedom of speech protects that. They are NOT protected from other individuals standing against such hate, if someone is part of far right organization and they joined far right rally, employer is not doing anything to restrict their freedom of speech when they are fired!!
@Oram52 freedom literally requires freedom from consequences or you aren't free
if i say "hey you can leave this room but a man in the hall will shoot you" then you aren't free to leave the room. freedom of speech requires freedom from consequences
@007kingifrit But that is accepted as freedom of speech, and mobs going after people is frowned upon. What does it have to do with consequences, im these instances they are literally impeding on freedom of speech. That's exactly is my point.
Differentiating between being able to freely express an opinion without interference from state, religion or society... and other people standing up for our values and standing up for people who are marginalized. Standing up against hate and trying to stop someone expressing a free opinion are not the same thing.
SO what exactly do you mean by consequences, what is the connection? Why shouldn't companies be able to fire someone for making anti-semetic or homophobic comments? What does bigoted comment bigoted/hateful comments have any connection with expressing unpopular politic opinion.
You know in Bible Belt people can still be fired for being atheist?
@Oram52 if "standing up for your values" is silencing someone else, you aren't exercising freedom of speech. you're right to swing your arm stops before it hits someone else's face
they are impeding the rights of others, so they don't have rights here
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Homophobia is awful. We are the only animal/breed/whatever that has shown it. Good he got suspended
What if they come for you when you say something wrong that you thought was said in private?
@ThisDudeHere I know I use some slurs in private (I'm bi and make a lot of gay jokes and such) and if he was remorseful I could understand where he's coming from
Apparently he was, so how come it's good that he got suspended?
@ThisDudeHere Hmm... I see your point. It's not necessarily GOOD, but not bad either. He should be able to come back tho
These bloody snowflakes need to stop getting their fucking knickers in a twist, stop throwing their dummies out of their prams, and have their fucking ass's kicked.
Kill him.
What he said was offensive, and if you offend anyone for any reason what so ever, then something serious might happen, like they might get offended.
Irony: he will be fired and senator Tom Carper will not lose his seat.
https://youtu.be/YhQegLCcCKIListen yes he most likely says shit like this on a regular but cmon. Because he said faggot?
He said fag. XX is one of the biggest fag cities, or something like that. The city he was talking about wasn't broadcast as only the last part of his comment was picked up when the broadcast resumed after an ad break.
Wow that's crazy
The whole incident is the percentage of a minority ruling a majority…
Who you really are is how you act when you think no ones recording you.
he should say whatever he wants i don't like the gays either
Yea you dont like gays but they exist. They dont like being called slurs. If people started saying slurs about you then you wouldn't feel very good either
@_Jay_ that's different; i'm the majority, an attack on me is an attack on society itself
all succesful civilizations are built on oppressing and excluding social and sexual deviants or they will fall apart from being too inclusive
societies that are too inclusive can no longer compromise as they have too many different ideas in them
so you're telling me that people who dont have a finger dont deserve to live alongside you? you're pretty stupid ngl
@_Jay_ is this some estonian phrase? don't have a finger?
no... literally if a person is born wihtout a finger or loses it in an accident they are not anymore the majority
@_Jay_ losing a finger isn't a demographic change, so that's not relevant. its not social or sexual deviance
race, religion, culture, nationality, language, sexuality
See if he had said this about the Giants instead of the Cardinals, I don't think anyone would have called him wrong.
I like how mgtow incels suddenly turns into homophobic people in the comment section but they are the one who omplain about me being homophobic whenever i call them fag.
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that doesn't make sense they can be against feminism and dislike gay people at the same time
Why do they call me homophobic then but they are homophobic themself
perhaps you should stop using labels entirely and not assume someone is a men's rights activist
So does that mean that none of the matches he cast ever happened now?
Will they have to play them again?
=P
Who cares what he said? Why is everyone so offended?
Because its homophobic? And something we shouldn't tolerate in a civilized society?
@Oram52 actually we should tolerate it... that's what liberal means
you need to respect other people don't like gays
@007kingifrit I precisely do, I absolutely defend free speech, hate speech is also free speech. But free speech goes both ways, same way they have right to be bigoted same way others also free to criticize it, and use freedom of speech to stand up for marginalized.
@Oram52 if you are taking any action against them then you don't support their free speech
@007kingifrit What correlation is there between taking action and not supporting free speech? In no way they've been prevented freedom of expression. You're instead demanding safe space for them, which no one is owed. You can not have freedom of speech and safe spaces at same time.
@Oram52 freedom of speech requires freedom from consequences or you aren't actually free to say what is on your mind
don't misuse the term safe space, that's a far left term to ban all controversial speech
@007kingifrit Clearly you've not read any of my comments above. Safe space is term used when leftwing want to put restrictions on free speech, so it is used to tell them you can't expect free speech, like they want on campuses.
Again no one is owed freedom from consequences. Its like saying they can continue to use antisemitism, racism, homophobia etc and expect not to be fired from their jobs. Freedom of speech goes both ways, freedom of choice goes both ways.
They are absolutely free to spew hate, bigotry racism etc. They are not free from others using THEIR freedom of speech and choice to stand up for our values, liberty and stand up for people who are marginalized and target of hate.
Freedom from consequences is relative and subjective. Freedom of speech requires NO direct restrictions put on an individual, be it state, religious institutions or culture/society. It doesn't mean they are *owed* safe space where they could spew anything they desired, and others couldn't use their freedom of expression to criticize them, use their freedom of choice to stand up against hate and take action. You seem to be confusing these things. One individual using the right to freedom of speech even if bigoted does NOT mean other individuals are now required to remain silent, and say or do nothing. Free speech means freedom of expression for everyone.
Their is a difference between someone being a target for unpopular opinion, where they maybe shamed or cancelled to silence them.
AND
Somebody spewing clearly hateful, xenophobic, racist language, and try to stand against that.
No one is stopping any individual to be bigoted, freedom of speech protects that. They are NOT protected from other individuals standing against such hate, if someone is part of far right organization and they joined far right rally, employer is not doing anything to restrict their freedom of speech when they are fired!!
@Oram52 freedom literally requires freedom from consequences or you aren't free
if i say "hey you can leave this room but a man in the hall will shoot you" then you aren't free to leave the room. freedom of speech requires freedom from consequences
@007kingifrit Lets explore how so? In what way freedom of speech requires freedom of consequences? In what their FoS has been impeded in anyway?
@Oram52 like companies firing people for sharing political opinions when not at work? like hate mobs going after people?
@007kingifrit But that is accepted as freedom of speech, and mobs going after people is frowned upon. What does it have to do with consequences, im these instances they are literally impeding on freedom of speech. That's exactly is my point.
Differentiating between being able to freely express an opinion without interference from state, religion or society... and other people standing up for our values and standing up for people who are marginalized. Standing up against hate and trying to stop someone expressing a free opinion are not the same thing.
SO what exactly do you mean by consequences, what is the connection? Why shouldn't companies be able to fire someone for making anti-semetic or homophobic comments? What does bigoted comment bigoted/hateful comments have any connection with expressing unpopular politic opinion.
You know in Bible Belt people can still be fired for being atheist?
@Oram52 if "standing up for your values" is silencing someone else, you aren't exercising freedom of speech. you're right to swing your arm stops before it hits someone else's face
they are impeding the rights of others, so they don't have rights here
@Oram52 u remember that this guy doesn't try to broadcast it right? so he doesn't try to assault anyone.
homophobic should be accepted as long as it is not try to assault anyone
I've heard people say worse than this and not get fired. I think it's BS that he gets suspended indefinitely.
He was suspended. I think that's enough. He doesn't need to be fired over it.
He isn't sorry otherwise he would have immediately apologized he is just sorry he got caught
he shouldn't be sorry for having totally reasonable opinions
gays are sexual deviants its not normal to be ok with them. the more people you tolerate the harder and harder it is to compromise in a society
@007kingifrit That's why nobody tolerates you :)
Sticks and stones anyone? Gay people probably thought it was funny. The most outraged people are the ones that have nothing to do with the incidnt
hypocrite world bro
and yet i think people are allowed to have free mind... now everyone have to like majority to have a job huh?
He has a history of speaking his mind, which includes derogatory words. It is best he goes ahead and retire.
nevermind suspended. his homophobic ass should had been fired immediately