"Johnson & Johnson Vaccinations Paused After Rare Clotting Cases Emerge": Now Can You See/Understand Why Some People are Hesitant To Be Vaccinated? (Page 3)
Most people are hesitant and against vaccines for all sorts of reasons.
Its not like the read a research paper, carefully taking a look at potential risks and problems,
they watch a 10min long video where a dude in a tinfoil hat explains how vaccines turned his family into reptiles and how this benefits the jews in the government.
And you know this how! You don't have proof of those statistics... People that worked on those vaccines don't know the long term affects they could have on people, so you shouldn't pretend to yourself...
Be nice to me. I am a smart person. Stop demonizing the smart. There used to be a time in America when smart people were respected. Then the dumb took over. That's what was so damaging about the Trump era. If we don't wise up soon, we will be doomed as a society. :(
How am I not being nice? Did I insult you like you tried but failed to insult me? If you see not agreeing with someone as not being nice don't know what to tell you š¤·š¼āāļø I'm simply saying you don't have the full facts on what the long term affects of these vaccines could be. Nowhere did I state of people should or shouldn't get vaccinated... But I do believe until more is known it should be people's personal choice and not something forced upon them... And please stop with the smart/dumb stuff... Just because people have different views than you don't make you smarter and them less... And also really smart people don't have to "tell people" how smart they are... Real intelligence is seen not just heard š¤·š¼āāļø
That's a one-in-a-million chance of vaccine complications, as opposed to a one-in-ten-thousand chance of contracting a deadly virus (that you could then spread to others). So no, I still don't understand the hesitation
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No because the hesitancy was based on paranoid hysteria, and conspiracy theories, not facts or science.
7 million people got the j&j vaccine (including me). 6 people had blood clots which may or may not have been because of the vaccine. No one knows yet. But those odds are greater than 1 in a million.
They put phizer on hold in some countries in Europe because of blood clot fears too. then they resumed vaccination when they saw the vaccine had nothing to do the the blood clots and they occurred at rate consistent with how they'd appear in a non vaccinated population.
The result with the j&j vaccine will likely be the same.
The technology in the j&j vaccine is based on a similar vaccine they developed for ebola that went through 10 years of testing before it was approved. The only difference really is the genetic instructions in the adenovirus.
You do realize tho that they put out medicine they say is safe, and years later it'll be recalled, linked to deaths or cancer? It's happened more times than it should... And it's cost people their lives
by the way the number of people who got the j&j vaccine and got these blood clots (cerebral venous sinus thrombosis) is 1 in a million, which is lower than the number of people who get cerebral venous sinus thrombosis in the normal population every year at 5 in a million. They'll probably conclude there's no correlation. www.hopkinsmedicine.org/.../cerebral-venous-sinus-thrombosis
Just a week ago my countryās āexpertsā were on the news talking about how the clotting wasnāt significant and that it was just a coincidence. Oh so when someone dies with covid, itās no coincidence, itās 100% covid, but when they get a blood clot with the vaccine, the vaccine is totally innocent yeah?
anyone who believes the mainstream narrative on this is shit for brains, period. This is about money and control
And honestly, I admire the Sputnik. They published a lot of details about the dangers of it. You can at least make an informed choice.
I would never trust china, because their fault is this entire shit and they did everything to make it worse. Who is to say their vaccines are not for this purpose, or just a ripoff.
"The problem is the lack of testing and rushing. " Well, except no vaccine ever gets tested on millions of people (which is what you need to show up more than one or two instances), and the effect is fairly quick, so spending longer wouldn't have detected it, either.
I read you're as likely to get clots from a long-haul flight.
First, as a pilot myself, I refute your blodclotting argument. You can't stand up in a military jet, yet I'm still alive.
Normal vaccines get tested in several distonct phases and get authorised in sometimes as much as 5-10 years. So while you don't test it on tens of millions, you can get a long term overview on the effects. Since covid is also a special bitch about how it kills you, the vaccines themselves can cause a shitload of issues (I am talking about the overreaction of the immune system).
Oh god. You do not understand what one in a million is really like. It's tossing a coin 21 times and getting the same side come up every. single. time. Besides, aren't military flight suits designed to avoid DVT?
Modern, "normal" vaccines also get tested on diseases that take far longer to affect people, and aren't killing people at the rate this one is. More people die in marathons every year than have from these vaccines.
in a "Rush" to prevent widespread death... testing was shortened... I understand that and I understand people deciding to not get vaccinated, I chose to get the vaccine. MY choice
If you look at it rationally, probability of this happening is far lower than with e. g. birth control pills or the virus itself. Reasons people donāt get vaccinated relate much more to people being cognitively limited in terms of their understanding of the statistics as opposed to legitimate statistical fears that the vaccine would actually be dangerous.
I had a j&j appointment scheduled. Iām not hesitant to get vaccinated after it was paused. Just annoyed that I have to go find another vaccine appointment LOL
5,800 Fully Vaccinated Americans Have Contracted COVID-19, 74 Dead: CDC
Some 5,800 Americans contracted COVID-19 despite being fully vaccinated against the virus that causes it, federal officials said Thursday.
The Americans got the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, which causes COVID-19, despite getting two shots of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, or the single-shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) told The Epoch Times via email.
Of the 5,800 fully vaccinated people who were confirmed as so-called breakthrough cases, nearly 400 required treatment at hospitals and 74 died.
A little over 40 percent of the infections were in people 60 years of age or older and 65 percent were female. A state-by-state breakdown was not available.
The figures were for cases through April 13.
More than 78 million people have been fully vaccinated in the United States as of April 15.
@JamieLoves Out of how many who were fully vaccinated? Never mind, it was tens of millions. 74 is 1.3% of those who caught it, which is lower than the normal case fataility rate. Just because they're not 100% effective, there's no point?
All medicine, carries a problem when taken. No matter what. These vaccines are saving lives. These blood clots so rare. They are 1 in over half a million. Some one to put it in prospective. You have more chance of being struck by lightning. Plus these clots if found early are easily treated.
No, I donāt. Now what are the odds of getting Covid and having problems?
One in a million for the blood clotting issue is nothing compared to the death rate of Covid. 340 million in US would be 340 people with blood clotting vs 340 dead with Covid which is a slow Tuesday morning.
The death rate of people who have actually died from Covid and really small too. The CDC reports a 99.6% recovery rate from Covid now. If you are elderly or have health risk factor, maybe itās worth the chance on a new therapy like these gene editors (theyvare not vaccines), but if you are not in that category, I donāt see the point in taking it. Especially since taking it does not prevent the spread.
We are going to find the numbers have been inflated. They were labeling every death IF a person had Covid as death BY Covid. Also, do you mean the surge in all the states that have strict lockdown and mask restrictions? Because the states that have been opened up and no restrictions (Texas and Florida in particular) now have declining rates..
@MasterOfReality Thatās why I only said hundreds of thousands vs the reported number. 200 countries donāt shut down if itās all nonsense. Iran has felt itās sting keenly and they would help with a US fraud of an issue.
Every time I go for any medical anything. I ask the Doc. Have you had it done? Have yet to get a Positive reaction from the Doc. Once I took a med that made me hallucinate, they go thatās better than the alternative. To what? With these shots and drugs Iāve already been there and Iāll wait. The one Biden got was from The Trump administration. And if you remember Trump got COVID and was better fast!! Donāt be a 🐀
Recheck your facts between Moderna and Pfizer there's been 900+ deaths reported that have been NEITHER confirmed not DENIED to be a result of the vaccine... Point being, there's not enough REAL factual statistics our evidence yet how safe/affective these vaccines are... And until there is, people have a right to question the safety of what's being injected into their bodies... People's lives and health shouldn't be something to be gambled with
First i need to make a correction. I miss calculated the percentage of the population that got blood clots and received the J&J vaccine. It is 0.00009%.
Second i will grant to the 966 deaths even thought we don't have data to confirm if any of those deaths were causes by the vaccines. When look 966 out of 65 million doses that whopping percentage of 0.00149%. Call that a gamble with someones health and lifes that to have to call medical procedures a gamble with people's health. Hell you have to call anything a person dose and dosen't do a gamble with there health.
We know how affective they are pfizers and moderna about 95% and J&J is somethink like 65% And we know how safe. We have data on 72 million doses be between the 3.
I agree with the Update. Just blood clots are not a big deal. Don't matter now anyway the Government have been backtracking there news saying actually not this many died of covid just with covid and opening things up and relaxing now. Kinda like the government just wants to forget about it and put it under the rug. Knew this day would come.
987 people died of covid yeterday, alone. Of the seven million people who have received in the Johnson and Johnson vaccine, 6 women may have died from a rare occurrence caused by the vaccine. So no, I don't understand why some people are hesitant to get vaccinated. I expect that everyone should know how to count and understand than 900 per day is much more than 6 over the course of month.
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Most people are hesitant and against vaccines for all sorts of reasons.
Its not like the read a research paper, carefully taking a look at potential risks and problems,
they watch a 10min long video where a dude in a tinfoil hat explains how vaccines turned his family into reptiles and how this benefits the jews in the government.
So there is a 1 in a 1,000,000 chance of bad things happening with a vaccine. There is like a 1 in 10 chance bad things will happen with covid-19.
The math is pretty easy to understand. There is a teeny tiny risk with the vaccine. There is a MUCH GREATER risk NOT getting the vaccine.
Life is an odds game. Play the odds. :)
And you know this how! You don't have proof of those statistics... People that worked on those vaccines don't know the long term affects they could have on people, so you shouldn't pretend to yourself...
Be nice to me. I am a smart person. Stop demonizing the smart. There used to be a time in America when smart people were respected. Then the dumb took over. That's what was so damaging about the Trump era. If we don't wise up soon, we will be doomed as a society. :(
How am I not being nice? Did I insult you like you tried but failed to insult me? If you see not agreeing with someone as not being nice don't know what to tell you š¤·š¼āāļø
I'm simply saying you don't have the full facts on what the long term affects of these vaccines could be. Nowhere did I state of people should or shouldn't get vaccinated... But I do believe until more is known it should be people's personal choice and not something forced upon them... And please stop with the smart/dumb stuff... Just because people have different views than you don't make you smarter and them less... And also really smart people don't have to "tell people" how smart they are... Real intelligence is seen not just heard š¤·š¼āāļø
That's a one-in-a-million chance of vaccine complications, as opposed to a one-in-ten-thousand chance of contracting a deadly virus (that you could then spread to others). So no, I still don't understand the hesitation
No because the hesitancy was based on paranoid hysteria, and conspiracy theories, not facts or science.
7 million people got the j&j vaccine (including me). 6 people had blood clots which may or may not have been because of the vaccine. No one knows yet. But those odds are greater than 1 in a million.
Enough to put it on hold, so that's not nothing
They put phizer on hold in some countries in Europe because of blood clot fears too. then they resumed vaccination when they saw the vaccine had nothing to do the the blood clots and they occurred at rate consistent with how they'd appear in a non vaccinated population.
The result with the j&j vaccine will likely be the same.
Hopefully
The technology in the j&j vaccine is based on a similar vaccine they developed for ebola that went through 10 years of testing before it was approved. The only difference really is the genetic instructions in the adenovirus.
You do realize tho that they put out medicine they say is safe, and years later it'll be recalled, linked to deaths or cancer?
It's happened more times than it should... And it's cost people their lives
by the way the number of people who got the j&j vaccine and got these blood clots (cerebral venous sinus thrombosis) is 1 in a million, which is lower than the number of people who get cerebral venous sinus thrombosis in the normal population every year at 5 in a million. They'll probably conclude there's no correlation.
www.hopkinsmedicine.org/.../cerebral-venous-sinus-thrombosis
Yep miss brains muffins, that's why i'll never get any vaccine, they make you feel like your a testing hamster in the lab...
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Miss brains made a vaccine called coro-alco shots, it's a combination of miss brain's luxury brews made to fight corona...
She labeled them as "coro-alco. inc" šš
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At least won't die from it... You just may temporarily feel that way š¤£
Miss brains gives you a hangover so you halucinate that she's a real human while in reality she's just a human shaped muffin š¤£š¤£
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The spongy forehead must be bitten š¬
Not today, I'm feeling really sick... Pain in arm, nauseous, feel funny sick.. And no not drinking...
Your feeling sick cause king tony ain'r around you š
Anyways i hope that you feel good very fast, take miss brains muffins to her bed cause she's becoming very naughty š
I been in bed, not helping š
Don't make this sad face miss brains, i like you happy, there's no way for miss brains to be sick cause she's a muffin š
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I hope that your feeling good now, where's your daughter? She must bring scooby to his grandma so she feels better š
Just a week ago my countryās āexpertsā were on the news talking about how the clotting wasnāt significant and that it was just a coincidence. Oh so when someone dies with covid, itās no coincidence, itās 100% covid, but when they get a blood clot with the vaccine, the vaccine is totally innocent yeah?
anyone who believes the mainstream narrative on this is shit for brains, period. This is about money and control
In this one case, I understand hesitant people. But not with normal vaccines.
The problem is the lack of testing and rushing.
Exactly
And honestly, I admire the Sputnik. They published a lot of details about the dangers of it. You can at least make an informed choice.
I would never trust china, because their fault is this entire shit and they did everything to make it worse. Who is to say their vaccines are not for this purpose, or just a ripoff.
"The problem is the lack of testing and rushing. "
Well, except no vaccine ever gets tested on millions of people (which is what you need to show up more than one or two instances), and the effect is fairly quick, so spending longer wouldn't have detected it, either.
I read you're as likely to get clots from a long-haul flight.
Oh god.
First, as a pilot myself, I refute your blodclotting argument. You can't stand up in a military jet, yet I'm still alive.
Normal vaccines get tested in several distonct phases and get authorised in sometimes as much as 5-10 years. So while you don't test it on tens of millions, you can get a long term overview on the effects. Since covid is also a special bitch about how it kills you, the vaccines themselves can cause a shitload of issues (I am talking about the overreaction of the immune system).
Oh god. You do not understand what one in a million is really like. It's tossing a coin 21 times and getting the same side come up every. single. time. Besides, aren't military flight suits designed to avoid DVT?
Modern, "normal" vaccines also get tested on diseases that take far longer to affect people, and aren't killing people at the rate this one is. More people die in marathons every year than have from these vaccines.
in a "Rush" to prevent widespread death... testing was shortened... I understand that and I understand people deciding to not get vaccinated, I chose to get the vaccine. MY choice
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If you look at it rationally, probability of this happening is far lower than with e. g. birth control pills or the virus itself. Reasons people donāt get vaccinated relate much more to people being cognitively limited in terms of their understanding of the statistics as opposed to legitimate statistical fears that the vaccine would actually be dangerous.
I had a j&j appointment scheduled. Iām not hesitant to get vaccinated after it was paused. Just annoyed that I have to go find another vaccine appointment LOL
Yes, now this has the wheels in my brain working overtime
Oops, sorry,..
@Brainsbeforebeauty I heard about this on news so will see
I know someone who got that vaccine, and I will refuse it no matter if its back on the market or not. Hopefully its trashed.
Yeah my one sister just got that a couple days for this came out
Yikes, I hope she's alright. The person I know that got it, is fine and its been a month.
People are so worried about the side effects of the vaccine, but what about the side effects of covid? Not counting death.
There are no effects from Covid the CCP BIO WEAPON!! 99.7% that contract it survive !!!
idiots !!!
@JamieLoves Wait, is it a weapon, or does it not do anything?
@goaded
5,800 Fully Vaccinated Americans Have Contracted COVID-19, 74 Dead: CDC
Some 5,800 Americans contracted COVID-19 despite being fully vaccinated against the virus that causes it, federal officials said Thursday.
The Americans got the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, which causes COVID-19, despite getting two shots of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, or the single-shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) told The Epoch Times via email.
Of the 5,800 fully vaccinated people who were confirmed as so-called breakthrough cases, nearly 400 required treatment at hospitals and 74 died.
A little over 40 percent of the infections were in people 60 years of age or older and 65 percent were female. A state-by-state breakdown was not available.
The figures were for cases through April 13.
More than 78 million people have been fully vaccinated in the United States as of April 15.
@JamieLoves Out of how many who were fully vaccinated? Never mind, it was tens of millions. 74 is 1.3% of those who caught it, which is lower than the normal case fataility rate. Just because they're not 100% effective, there's no point?
Oh please
@goaded I got my first shot in December. No 5G tower has grown yet. Disappointed honestly.
I think you just become another node in the network; it's how they get such good coverage.
On the plus side, you get to use your thumb and little finger to make phone calls.
All medicine, carries a problem when taken.
No matter what.
These vaccines are saving lives.
These blood clots so rare. They are 1 in over half a million.
Some one to put it in prospective.
You have more chance of being struck by lightning.
Plus these clots if found early are easily treated.
You have No proof of what you say !
@JamieLoves what part is that?
Youāre not capable of understanding more !
@JamieLoves Patronising blind sod.
You want to open your eyes.
Probably a anti vacc..
LOL ! š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š„²
Iām an MD you Twit !
The idiots in this world never stop showing their complete idiocy!!! ššššš
No, I donāt. Now what are the odds of getting Covid and having problems?
One in a million for the blood clotting issue is nothing compared to the death rate of Covid. 340 million in US would be 340 people with blood clotting vs 340 dead with Covid which is a slow Tuesday morning.
The death rate of people who have actually died from Covid and really small too. The CDC reports a 99.6% recovery rate from Covid now. If you are elderly or have health risk factor, maybe itās worth the chance on a new therapy like these gene editors (theyvare not vaccines), but if you are not in that category, I donāt see the point in taking it. Especially since taking it does not prevent the spread.
@MasterOfReality and yet hundreds of thousands dead in the US in one year. Thousands a day at times. Good luck, there is a surge happening now.
We are going to find the numbers have been inflated. They were labeling every death IF a person had Covid as death BY Covid. Also, do you mean the surge in all the states that have strict lockdown and mask restrictions? Because the states that have been opened up and no restrictions (Texas and Florida in particular) now have declining rates..
@MasterOfReality Thatās why I only said hundreds of thousands vs the reported number. 200 countries donāt shut down if itās all nonsense. Iran has felt itās sting keenly and they would help with a US fraud of an issue.
I apologize. Iām just so used to the hard heads pushing it down our throats.
Wouldnāt*
@MasterOfReality Yep. I donāt like BS either.
Every time I go for any medical anything. I ask the Doc. Have you had it done? Have yet to get a
Positive reaction from the Doc.
Once I took a med that made me hallucinate, they go thatās better than the alternative. To what?
With these shots and drugs Iāve already been there and Iāll wait. The one Biden got was from
The Trump administration. And if you remember Trump got COVID and was better fast!!
Donāt be a 🐀
I can however i would make the following points to them.
1. It only 6 out of 7 million that 0.0000009% chance if it is just a random side-effect.
2. Pfizer and Moderna have out been for longer and has far more doses give out with no reports of possible unknown side-effects
3. If you face you fear getting vaccinated i will personally give you a thumbs up 👍
Recheck your facts between Moderna and Pfizer there's been 900+ deaths reported that have been NEITHER confirmed not DENIED to be a result of the vaccine... Point being, there's not enough REAL factual statistics our evidence yet how safe/affective these vaccines are... And until there is, people have a right to question the safety of what's being injected into their bodies... People's lives and health shouldn't be something to be gambled with
First i need to make a correction. I miss calculated the percentage of the population that got blood clots and received the J&J vaccine. It is 0.00009%.
Second i will grant to the 966 deaths even thought we don't have data to confirm if any of those deaths were causes by the vaccines. When look 966 out of 65 million doses that whopping percentage of 0.00149%. Call that a gamble with someones health and lifes that to have to call medical procedures a gamble with people's health. Hell you have to call anything a person dose and dosen't do a gamble with there health.
We know how affective they are pfizers and moderna about 95% and J&J is somethink like 65%
And we know how safe. We have data on 72 million doses be between the 3.
Nope, I already got both doses of phizer. I had no symptoms, after the first dose. The second dose just a mild headache.
Just saying all vaccines cause blot clots... it's rare to happen. But a common side effect which we have know for a long time.
I agree with the Update. Just blood clots are not a big deal. Don't matter now anyway the Government have been backtracking there news saying actually not this many died of covid just with covid and opening things up and relaxing now. Kinda like the government just wants to forget about it and put it under the rug. Knew this day would come.
987 people died of covid yeterday, alone. Of the seven million people who have received in the Johnson and Johnson vaccine, 6 women may have died from a rare occurrence caused by the vaccine. So no, I don't understand why some people are hesitant to get vaccinated. I expect that everyone should know how to count and understand than 900 per day is much more than 6 over the course of month.