Men Have Problems Too, Or Are We Not Allowed to Talk About Them...?

[Anonymous]

Hello!

**Before I get into this myTake I want you to read this with an open mind and read everything before you comment please. I know some of you won't like what I'm going to say because you think that I'm saying something which isn't true or that I'm trying to act like a victim, but I'm not so again please comment and read this with an open mind.**

Video explaining the basis of this myTake.

I would appreciate it if you took some time to watch this video above as it's essentially all the problems in a video which expresses them in a good way.

I made a post before using the same video and I received some good feedback from both men and women who watched the video and understood the problems we face too! I understand both male and females have different problems which all need to be fixed and made right however men hardly ever have their problems dealt with at all whereas women are having their problems tackled with. I don't think it's right that this happens, we should be fixing and correcting all the problems with both genders without leaving one gender out.

**If you don't have time to watch the video I'll list down the main points below for you**

1. Parental Custody- In sooo many scenarios the system favours the woman which leaves a father with little to no rights over the baby.

2. Rape- by law apparently a man can never be a victim of rape which isn't true and men hardly have any help or centres which can help them if they are raped. The rape crisis charity in the UK recognises that lots of men get raped too yet they provide NO shelters for them. There are 4,000 places for a woman to go in England and Wales if they are raped whereas there are 16 dedicated to men. The male rape services got their budgets cut even though there was a 120% rise in sexual violence towards men.

3. Incarceration- the justice system favours a woman over a man in almost all circumstances. A woman who commits the same crime as a man is more likely to be let off or given a much lighter punishment. Women are almost twice as likely to avoid incarceration than a man. On average a man receives 63% longer sentences than a woman who are arrested for the same crime.

4. Violent crime-Violent crime affects men much more than women than anyone thinks, if you watch the video from 3:40 onwards you will see Sharon Osbourne stating that a man having his penis cut off was "fabulous" and then she goes on to saying that a boob being cut off is so much worse. She is literally so disgusting and I've lost all respect for her, young women look up to that lady and she says things like that.

5. Internet Harassment- A young man is more likely to be harassed online, that's not saying that a woman doesn't get harassed because i know they do but just of a less frequency than a man does.

6. Lack of cancer research- Prostate cancer is the 2nd most common type of cancer on the planet yet is received a significantly less amount of funding than Breast cancer which is 3rd. 1 in 8 women will develop breast cancer in their lifetime whereas 1 in 6 men will develop prostate cancer in their lifetime. A total of 572.6 million dollars is funded into breast cancer which is the 3rd most common type of cancer whereas 285 million dollars is funded into prostate cancer which is the 2nd most common cancer in the world. How is that right?

7. Employee health risks- Now this is a tough one because some people have the argument of "Why do that if there is a chance you could die" but someone has to do it, every single job out there happens for a reason and keeps the world going. The jobs which are harsher and result in death happen to be jobs which usually do not appeal to women so it ends up that men work in that field for the most part. Men are 20x most likely to die in those jobs than a woman. 92% of people who die during work are men whereas 8% are female.

8. Global Mockery of male issues- Feminists around the world hate that we have an international men's day like woman have an international woman's day. The days are there to raise issues and make people more aware of that sex yet some of these feminists don't like that men get these issues raised. Why? I thought they were for equality but that certainly doesn't show it.

9.Education- again people argue about this issue but it is a fact that the education system favours women in many ways. For the first time in history your sons, our sons will have a less of an education than a woman...how is that moving forward? something needs to change.

10. Suicide- Men's suicide rates are over the roof. Suicide kills 12 men every single day in the UK.In the USA, 89 men PER DAY. 49% of men in the UK thought that they couldn't talk about their feelings which could be the reason why suicide is much higher is men than woman.

All of these issues need to be brought to attention by men, by women by anybody. We address female problems all the time yet men problems get left out. This needs to change.

**I know females have problems too but they are being addressed and people are trying to help them while we get little to zero help, that's why i made this**

[BuchitaBuchys]

1. I agree. But this is the fault of a sexist society that believes women are nurturers and thus it's "the woman's job" to care for kids.

2. I'd like to see this law, or from where. Rape is definitely unfair to the victims and all, men women children, have it really bad.
All these issues should be addressed and I do think there should be more men's centers.

3. I agree and that needs to be addressed. Again, dangerous mindset that men are angry savages and that women are weak China dolls.

4. I don't know who Sharon Osborne is but that's fucked up. And is that violence coming from other men? Just like black on black violence needs to be addressed, men on men needs to be fixed too.

5. I'm not saying it's right, but probably because more men spend more time online. And again, is this men harassing other men? See #4.

6. I fucking HATE the "save the boobies" campaign. Sure, it brought money for breast cancer, but it's just sexualizing a fucking disease. Like really? How about save the woman? I'm sure her boobs aren't more important than her.
What does this have to do with prostate cancer? Because prostates aren't as sexualized and desired as boobs are. There is no "save the prostate!" campaign because men's bodies aren't as sexualized as women's. People didn't give a fuck about it, not all, but definitely not such awareness, until they realized boobs had to get removed.
It's not right, but sexist society tells us to save what we consider most precious, and people sure do value boobs.

7. I mean yes, we should definitely improve those conditions. But as many users love to point out here, the reason why men get paid more is because they do more dangerous jobs and get into more lucrative fields. Yes, improve the conditions for construction workers, and other dangerous jobs. But as women complain about low pay, take a job that pays more or that you're not going to die doing.

8. I'm all for awareness of issues. I see no problem with that.

9. So you're ok with women receiving less education than men? Lol how is that right?
And is this worldwide figures? Because many places you can still get shot in the face for merely being a girl trying to get an education.

10. That does need to get addressed, but again. It's the sexist mindset that boys can only have anger and horny as their emotions.
I've seen even on here men mock other men "such a pussy, bro", "that's so beta/weak/gay" etc. Like damn, this guy needs sympathy not "get over it fag".

[myTake Owner]

Nope, it was a man's wife who cut the man's penis off and then threw it in the bin. I never said i was okay with women having less of a education i said the education system favours women whereas it should favour both men and women. Thank you for agreeing with me mostly though. I would like to point something out about point 10 that you wrote, why do men feel the need to say those sort of things? because both men and women keep telling their children that and the cycle goes on.

[BuchitaBuchys]

Damn, that's crazy.

But is that worldwide? Because many places women are trained to be housewives and not learners.
Malala Yousafzai was literally shot in the face at the age of 15 for encouraging girls to get an education. That definitely doesn't sound like a system that favors women.

Yes, we tell them "stop being a little girl" to discourage emotional or crying. And "man up" to encourage them to encourage bravery and courage.
Girl emotions/traits=bad.
Boy emotions/traits=good.

You see the problem here? We actively discourage anything even remotely considered feminine (that's ridiculous though because everyone feels emotions and sadness. Everyone. It's a human thing, not female thing). And actively encourage male traits (again, ridiculous considering we all feel this), especially towards men.

[myTake Owner]

Yeah the middle eastern countries are backwards in a lot of things but that will change over time hopefully to give everyone an equal chance. I agree though about everything else, thank you for understanding :)

[BuchitaBuchys]

Not just middle east lol lots of places in South America are like that, though they won't shoot girls who try to learn, and African countries. Remember the #BringBackOurGirls?
Lots of places are adamant to keep female education down and female literacy rates are abysmal in many countries.
I feel like I'm hijacking this issues about men, I'm sorry. But I really do want to know if your figure was worldwide about education favoring women? Because i just can't say I agree.

Otherwise, I do agree. Hopefully people will try to bring about peace. I'm a hopeful pessimist lol

[myTake Owner]

Uhh the figures were about western countries so it wasn't really talking about those countries and it's okay lol. Yeah I'm hopeful too, i just want everybody to have equal chances and opportunities in life

[93stepsawayfromhome]

Something else: "women and children first". Men are viewed as extremely disposable. "53 people were killed in the attack, including women and children" — I get the part about children, but women?

[ManOnFire]

So true! I hate when the media does that.

[Jxpxtxr]

I think it's just to do with basic biology and the necessity of a higher number of women in terms of keeping a population alive. One man alone can theoretically make 100 children in a very short period of time but 100 woman can only make 100 children in that same time frame.
Children are obviously more important because they have they have longer to live and hence the most potential for the future.
Sure, it's totally unfair because it basically puts one human life above another but that's just the awareness of priorities, I guess..

[lyannamormont]

Good take, yes I agree with all that men problems. But I have some comments:

1) Parental custody: I came to realization on this website that it is an American problem that women have almost all the rights. It is not the same in Europe. In my country, men have equal rights as long as they prove they are qualified to look after the kid, same goes for women. Certain stuff do not allow men or women to get custody, such as cheating, inappropriate life style (drugs etc.), not enough earning, job conditions.
2) Rape or not voicing rape and violence on men simply come from societal issues. Man needs to "man up" because being man is associated with strength and women with weakness. So I think men reporting these problems are far less than women reporting them. Also, for example in Turkey they have Mor Cati for battered women and men, and also they support rape victims. Same in Belgium and some other European countries. Again an American issue.
3) Not always true again in other countries there are reverse cases. Not on top of my mind, I will be checking it out later.
4) Do not even listen to what was said there. Mutilation of body is equally disgusting and shocking. There is no man or woman in that issue, it is simply not fabulous. When did mutilation become fabolous? Such a jerk.
5) You need to check the internet access rate and percentage of frequent internet users across genders. I am sure young women are more likely to be harassed. Even on this website, I haven't seen a girl posting a guy's IG photos without his permission, while most guys post photos of their crushes without the girls' consent. This is a real harassment and privacy violation. I dont even talk about messages i get on Telegram, facebook, ig (when i were using them)
6) Because you guys do not found charities like women for awareness like women. Plus what you say is wrong according to cancer research UK website. www.cancerresearchuk.org/.../incidence
Mortality rate in breast cancer is higher and it is leading in the cases after Lung cancer while Prostate is the fourth. Thou I agree more funds should be given in cancer research.

[lyannamormont]

7) There are life-threatening jobs, such as construction, military etc. where women are biased to be "weak" to work in those areas. There is a sexist approach in some dangerous job areas, the mortality rate should be again given by gender of the working population in those areas. Also, by nature women are less strong for certain jobs. But that does not mean these dangerous jobs should not be paid attention. In opposite, I agree more attention should be given, maybe unions should work on it.
8) Most mockery I had seen come from men friends honestly. I myself define myself as feminist. I am not American and my definition is not American feminism to state females should get more rights less responsibility. I recognize both genders to get equal rights and responsibilities. So i do not mock, and any woman who calls herself feminist and mock males is simply a feminazi, not equalist feminist.

[myTake Owner]

Your welcome :D i do have to say though about your last point- It's true that prostate cancer is the 2nd most common cancer of all time. Breast cancer is third and lung cancer is 1st. The thing is though breast cancer treatment is always being made better and less risk so the chances are if you find out you have breast cancer in its early stages it's very easy to get rid of it now with everything we have. `As prostate cancer is the 2nd most common cancer and a cancer which a lot of men will get at some point in their life time i would of thought they would of got a large sum in research too.

[lyannamormont]

9) You again talk about American issue. More females are still suffering from access to education across the world, significantly in patriarchal societies. However, any education related problem should be solved. Maybe it should be started by "eliminating the college loan market in USA"?
10) Not talking about their problems.. you said. Again societal, which dictates men are stronger, and putting a lot of burden on men. Suicide centers should be increased for both genders.

So most are not male problems. Some are global for both genders, some are for only Western/American society. I hope a true equality can be achieved. But it is hard while females perceive all males to be discriminating against them and while males think all females exaggerate their problems, hate men and try to get more rights with less work.

[lyannamormont]

Well, where is your evidence, I like to see it. Because wherever I read, it is the reverse. Plus as feminism wave come from suppressed women, cancer research funds in breast cancer again come from female philanthropists. It is mainly not males' decision to put more money to make females happy. It is the truth and awareness level among women. Males not being aware of that, unfortunately is not my problem. But I still support male philanthropists work on that as females as well.

[myTake Owner]

Uhh i kinda agree with your point 7 but i honestly think women would rather go into a more cleaner or safer field than a man. I don't think it's sexist that there are high requirements. No its not just an American issue, some or most of these issues can be applied to most western countries

[myTake Owner]

Most of your responses have been just telling me about third world countries when this whole myTake was about western countries.

[lyannamormont]

Well on top of job related deaths, since the topic is job, and you said women go for safer cleaner jobs, i should state that everywhere in the world (except much less in nordic countries) females in those cleaner/safer jobs are getting far less income for same types of job, when all else equal such as marital status, age, qualifications etc. Income inequality across genders is the least in engineering/specifically transportation engineering jobs, I read in WSJ, simply because women have "women in transportation society" speaking up for them. You die, we get paid less. It is terrible for both genders.

[lyannamormont]

Well you are anonymous, I do not know your country, and you haven't stated the location for your take plus you come with "International Men's Day" so I went with international issues. I think we would chat productively in the private chat about issues. Lol :D

[myTake Owner]

Ok, it say you have to follow me for me to message you.

[Anpu23]

I commented on the other take, but I will add this. Male problems are also human problems, we can't just leave half of the population out of the equation and expect a balanced society.

There are groups that have an alternative answer to these issues, that the problem is simply men, and that we can solve this problem by either castrating, or killing all men. There are some people (yes radical feminists) who just advocate a female utopia, and feel that these problems can be solved by simply eliminating men all together.

Yes this is a radical mindset, but if you want to know how Hitler made his morally repugnant beliefs reality he did the following:

Stated that Jews had unearned privileges (male Privilege)
That Jews were dangerous (Toxic Masculinity)
That Jews were the reason that Germans couldn't get ahead (Glass Ceiling)
Etc. etc.

We use the language of genocide towards men, and you wonder why guys have said ENOUGH!

www.google.com/url

www.google.com/url

As an example. This is the nature of propaganda, and as it becomes normalized It is harder and harder to speak against it. Recently the act of MANspreading has become a crime in certain places. This crime is gender specific even using the word "man" inside of it. There was a mytake here where a young woman diagnosed ALL men with a mental disorder, why so they can be "helped"? www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a28712-all-men-are-autistic This is language of hate and fear. If we don't put an end to it, then who knows what might happen...

[sp33d]

I find the suicide shaming despicable.

Right, to business:
9 - Education - inaccurate conclusions. Preference is not based on gender, but academic success. It so happens that women are, en masse, academically more succesful.

7 - Neither the video nor this article has been specific enough on what exactly the problem is.

6 - Premature conclusions, deserves more thorough analysis.

5 - Yes, problem acknowledged, but cause not specified. Quantitatively the claim might hold, but what is the relevance?

4 - Idiots commenting on the matter in a TV show is hardly compelling.. well maybe to idiots it is, in that instance the point becomes moot. Furthermore, on the actual issue of men and women falling victim to violent crimes: similarly to number 5, what is the relevance to this alleged discrimination?

2 - Now this one, I do agree with completely and more resources should be dedicated to aid of rape victims. Well known fact in many statistical researches on this matter.

The points I haven't commented on are either inconsequential or I haven't looked into in depth.

The sad background music and cherry picked data: sobbing fathers, specific nations with suitable statistics and references to TEDxTalks with suitable exerpts to support claim to name some, certainly help with making the viewer sympathetic. This is known as statistical fallacy. Easy to overlook due to apparent gravity of topic discussed. More on that under "Use and misuse of statistics".

For purposes of objectivity, which both this take and referred YT video sadly fail at, I would say the point has been made, but little to no credible evidence presented. Recall that the purpose of both the video and article is to direct attention to discrimination of men.

[WhatIfTheStormEnds]

The issue, as we see again in the comments section, is that feminists have done a good job at convincing the public that women were oppressed in the past in comparison to men. Obviously, if someone believes this they will take women's issues more seriously in order to prevent a reoccurence.

Personally I disagree with this worldview. In short, I believe there were positive/negatives of being both genders in the past. I don't want to rewrite another long essay explaining my points of view, but I will leave a few links if anybody wants to read about a non-mainstream opinion. I would encourage everybody to read them with an open mind, as ultimately I don't think the 'women's oppression' worldview is healthy for anyone.

First a nice couple of lectures from Karen Straughan, probably a gentle introduction to the topics at hand:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vagVf5cf-V0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0zQf5NMG8E

A few AVFM articles (for the brave, since they are often angry rants which have some good points scattered in them):

www.avoiceformen.com/.../
www.avoiceformen.com/.../

I think in general, lots of Karen's videos (look for the ones more than 10 mins long) are filled with nice arguments. I'd encourage anyone to browse through them and pick one with an interesting title.

https://www.youtube.com/user/girlwriteswhat/videos

[Tdieseler]

Nice Take
Don't forget that in damn near every violent situation, men are more likely to be killed than women.
Also, women are more likely to be hired at many jobs due to either gender specificity (in home care, babysitting, daycare), looks, horny male managers or empathetic female manager even though a male applicant is way appropriate with better qualifications.

[myTake Owner]

Thanks :)

[ManOnFire]

@Tdieseler I've been in that SAME situation with employment.

[Tdieseler]

@ManOnFire thats just the worst. I applied to be front desk one at a company one time and the requirements fit me pretty much. After my interview, i was told that someone else had better qualifications.. just over a month after i went with a friend of mine to the same company because he had some appointment or something scheduled there and the front desk person who greeted me was this slim short blonde chick with a painted face and left everyone choking on her shitty perfume. she barely knew what she was doing while she was looking up the appointment, she was two-finger typing and had to look up the correct extension after... while i waited for my friend i literally saw this "qualified" woman banging on the printer because it "would not print"... eventually she asked on of the workers if they could get IT to come fix it..(there was no IT) but the guy fixed it for her... problem? the printer was out of paper and she didn't know where the tray was.

[ManOnFire]

Wow, dayum. I have seen that so many times. I come back to the place where I wasn't hired and see some bimbo really fumbling at the job. What a joke.

[Afrochick]

HORNY MALE MANAGERS LOL

[Tdieseler]

@ManOnFire Pisses me the hell off... i think someone told me once that its because the person is the face of the company so they want someone pretty out front... made me ask myself, "so does that mean im ugly?"...
@Afrochick believe it or not, its a real thing. Some fat sweaty "manager" would rather take more time to train an inexperienced girl for a position, than hire someone who has experience and would need less training just because its a guy.

[phil2]

I asked a question recently about the fact that men are not received really well when they express their emotions, would the world be better if they were? It was a 50-50 but a little towards the yes, the world would be better and possibly less male suicides if men were not judged so bad when they express themselves emotionally. I like your article and I am really sad my bil killed himself.

[myTake Owner]

Thank you and I'm sorry to hear that.

[steven7890789]

Your bil? What do you mean by that? And I agree about many people being assholes towards men that are depressed.

[phil2]

@steven7890789 brother in law

[steven7890789]

Oh I get you now. Sorry for your loss by the way.

[kaylaS91]

Regarding rape... can you name a country that actually fails to realize rape of a man as an actual crime? As far as I've heard, this in the legal system thus far applies only to women. That many countries/societies, namely in the middle east/northern Africa, view a woman's body as man's property. He can do as he pleases with it and law enforcement won't do shit.

Employee health risks- are you serious? Yes, most jobs that are more dangerous are largely filled by men. For one, though, are you forced to go into them? You do realize that you can get a job in finance/medicine, and don't have to be an excavator or something like that. Not too many women fill the more dangerous jobs not because of any 'rights' they hold, but because not many would take a female mechanic/engineer, or anything in the STEM field, as seriously as they'd view a man in the same position.

[myTake Owner]

You don't understand. If you read what i said properly i said that it is recognised but then what? it isn't classified as rape if its on a man. There are little to no shelters if you are a man. You don't get support if you are a man.

Again you didn't read what i said. Someone has to do the jobs. Every job there is has its purpose in this world and keeps the whole thing going. Lots of jobs rely on each other. Your viewing all of these issues with a closed mind.

[kaylaS91]

... lol you clearly didn't read my reply and are unwilling to consider other's opinions and consider their logic, instead choosing to stick by your own extremely biased beliefs.
Whatever floats your boat.👌

[myTake Owner]

How am i biased. All of the other women that replied agreed with me as well as most of the men. If anything you are biased. I must be so biased for wanting men and women to be equal, im so sorry.

[Letmedo]

1. Ex: india
2. Sorry i dont know much about it so leaving that

[myTake Owner]

@Letmedo That's actually a good point, i read about that the other day. India is extremely sexist regarding rape.

[kaylaS91]

'All of the other women that replied agreed with me as well as most of the men. If anything you are biased. I must be so biased for wanting men and women to be equal, im so sorry.'

... I can't really make sense of what you're saying if to you, being 'biased' means going against the herd mentality. Complaining about how men make up the majority of engineers and similar jobs that are 'dangerous' when this is simply because nobody would take a female engineer half as seriously is not 'equality'.

Best stop this little mission of yours, as the more you say, the less and less sense you're making. Maybe try actually thinking of there being some logic behind what you say before saying it, eh?

[shortandsweet24]

I think that male issues should be discussed more thoroughly and that men should be encouraged to open up about their frustrations. All humans are equal. There is no superior sex. Everyone is different and unique. And, I would like to bring that mindset into a therspy office as I get closer to my degree as a psychology major. :)

[myTake Owner]

Yep, i totally agree :)

[shortandsweet24]

Good to know. I believe in being an equal opportunity, humanistic therapist that focuses on healing instead if just a diagnosis. The whole point in my studies is to help people. And, men should feel just as comfortable as women, when it comes to opening up about their unhappiness!

So, your post is awesome! 💚

[myTake Owner]

Yeah. that's really good! I'm thinking of doing Psychology too, it looks really interesting! Thank you :)

[shortandsweet24]

No problem. I wish you the best and advise a minor psych program first, like crisis and trauma or develomental, before you study clinical. It opens up different views of the study. :)

[myTake Owner]

Thank you so much, ill do that! i wish you the best too. I hope other people feel the same away as you about this myTake.

[shortandsweet24]

Thanks! Good luck! 😊

[BlueGender]

Much love shortandsweet.

[helloitsmethere]

Please still talk about them. The only way we get to know about men's problems is about you guys standing up to talk about them and how you ACTUALLY feel about certain things. Also, everyone should be able to express their emotions freely, no matter the gender.

[myTake Owner]

Thank you and i will do :) I'll make one for females too when i am free.

[ManOnFire]

@helloitsmethere There are many times when men do try to talk about them, but people just think they're "whining."

[kaylaS91]

@ManOnFire damn you're set on complaining largely for the sake of enjoying bickering versus actually attempting to come to some kind of conclusion.

[helloitsmethere]

@ManOnFire That's what people said about every movement involved... you just need to ignore them.

[ManOnFire]

@helloitsmethere Oh I agree with you. It's just a different story when it comes to guys. It can be hard to ignore it if you're already being ignored. The key I think is about getting enough women to care. There are plenty of us men who know what we feel about it, but when women are just writing you off as "whiny virgins," you can't get taken seriously.

[myTake Owner]

@kaylaS91 Your the one who can't take anyone else's opinion because your close minded.

[kaylaS91]

*you're

[myTake Owner]

@kaylaS91 See look at you. Stop being childish.

[helloitsmethere]

@ManOnFire I think it because for many centuries, men have always been seen as 'the strong gender' or something. That mindset is DEFINITELY changing now in the western world (thank goodness) because women have a lot of rights now. We fought for it and we achieved it. I think what people fail to realize is that, yes women may have all these problems (socially), men can have social problems too. For example, the rape thing, the custody thing, the expressing your emotions thing etc. I think you remembered the story when a father of an infant child was accused of being a pedo because he was taking a bath with his sick child to make him feel better. He wasn't even doing anything inappropriate with the baby. These are the type of things we should also be talking about. Also, remember at the same time, for things that are VERY minor, people might not take you seriously at first.
So in other words, BOTH genders have problems.

[myTake Owner]

I agree with you. We are seen as equals in western countries now however we both have inequalities which need to be looked into. I listed the top 10 problems men face above. In which feminists created the first problem.

[helloitsmethere]

Okay, if the parents are getting divorced, and they only have an infant or a really young child, I could DEFINITELY understand because well, the woman has the food in her body (breast milk). Yes, you can give a child formula milk but breast milk has vital nutrients and antibodies which build a baby's immune system more. If it is an older child (not a toddler), I think the court should decide on which parent is more financially stable, and let the child choose which parent he/she wants to live with.

[myTake Owner]

That's one factor but in most situations the child goes to the woman regardless.

[ManOnFire]

@helloitsmethere Yeah, I was the one who wrote that Take about the father and his baby. I think the big problem is that society has the attitude that men are supposed to apologize to women for "thousands of years of oppression" and all the bad men who've wronged women, before men's problems are allowed to be taken seriously. It's an unfair situation, and I really do think it won't change until women humble themselves and stop hiding behind men-do-this and men-do-that. A certain level of change does need to start with them I think.

[Unit1]

Yup! I have put thought into it and that made me think being male is unfortunate today.
We constantly get told to suck it up and man up and to not be a weak ass pussy. As a result people wonder why we have no feelings and no emotions.

Remember, that kids are always the future of humanity and that soon everything will be reaped as it was sowed.

Sucks to be us.

That's also why men are increasingly starting going their own way, me been one of them and then went MY own way (not MGTOW way).

Brace yourselves!

[ManOnFire]

I can always agree with this issue. The problem isn't so much that men don't have problems and that people don't know it, it's that society has the attitude that men are supposed to apologize to women for "thousands of years of oppression" and all the bad men who've wronged women, before men's problems are allowed to be taken seriously. It's an unfair situation, and won't change until women humble themselves and stop hiding behind men-do-this and men-do-that. The change needs to start with them I think.

[danLUNNUX]

cos there is the church, society, kings, queens, emperors, like long ago who say women are inferior? little wonder people have sympathy with women's rights more so than men's rights.

[ManOnFire]

@danLUNNUX And yet you've had many women throughout history who haven't done women any favors.

[danLUNNUX]

not the point... women have come from a lower place, men haven't.

[ManOnFire]

@danLUNNUX Yeah, it is the point. Cuz it's worse when women have the power to change things and don't.

It doesn't matter if they come from a lower place or not. Just because one person has suffered doesn't mean the other one doesn't have pains either. So I guess if you ever have a son and he loses a custody battle to some serpentine wife, your answer will probably just be: "Well, son, you have to suck it up and deal with it. Women have been oppressed by us for thousands of years. You're not in any position to want fair treatment. Just move on."

[confusedapplepie]

i agree with everything except the education bit: becauuse i read an articke on why and they said its because girls are more eager to learn, read more often and have a more positive attitude towards school whereas boys tend to have a rebellious attitude which of course ends up in bad grades.
and its mostly the men who set up this image of boys being rebellious. "sons having less education than their dads". yep. is a problem. "sons having less education than daughters" that one sounds sexist because over centuries its been the girls who were systemitecally disadvantaged in education.

[myTake Owner]

Thank you for agreeing with me but that isn't a sexist it was simply stating that their sons would be getting leas of a education and not equal.

[confusedapplepie]

im sorry this is slightly late but guys are not the ones who get excluded from education because of what they fucking wear (us dress codes will never get in my mind)

[myTake Owner]

If there wasn't a dress code both men and females who are young would come in ridiculous clothes to gain attention from the opposite sex. Boys get excluded a lot too for the wrong clothes.

[posted]

" Global Mockery of male issues- Feminists around the world hate that we have an international men's day like woman have an international woman's day."
And feminism is for 'equality' interesting.

9. Education- again people argue about this issue but it is a fact that the education system favours women in many ways. For the first time in history your sons, our sons will have a less of an education than a woman... how is that moving forward? something needs to change.
This one I don't understand unless women get more scholarship funding?

[gizmo4me2]

The problem here is men have been told to be men and forget they feelings. I don't believe in Suicide by anybody it only solve that persons problem and live a bigger problem for those that are left behind.
Education favors Women because they are problem solvers, men on the other hand are better to work with they hands.
Men been mocked by feminist, you are overstepping your bounty guys don't talk about your feelings it has not been don before.
Internet users, anybody forcing you to bee on line?
Violent Crime. done by any person deserve the same sentence.
Raping is like taken somebody's life and should be dealt whit in the same manor for men and women.
Parental Custody, should be the same for women and men, but in most cases men work and women stay home what was normal for many years ago, that again have chanced over the last few years.

[Tanuron]

I just meant to reply to @kaylaS91

But can't for some reason so just leaving this here then.

"Since he failed to mention it, I believe in the UK a man can't actually be raped by a woman nor is it considered a crime cause its "impossible". You have to have a penis in order to rape someone, is their defintion anyway, short said."

[ManOnFire]

@Tanuron She probably blocked you. She did the same thing to me awhile back when she got backed into a corner. Chicks here do that.

[kaylaS91]

@ManOnFire It's hard not to when a huge portion of men on here love to do exactly what you just did on a regular basis (make generalizations against the other sex with no legitimate proof aside from incredibly vague statements that could be applied to anyone, regardless of gender/orientation/race, etc..

I'm sorry that you're so miserable with your life, especially your lack of success with women, that you choose to deal with it like a grade-schooler. i. e. name-calling.

[ManOnFire]

@kaylaS91 You're calling the kettle black.

[kaylaS91]

@ManOnFire how so? Care to give actual reason to your statements?

[ManOnFire]

@kaylaS91 I've seen you generalize and talk smack about guys on a number of occasions, yet you have the nerve to get a hissy fit about what guys are doing. You're like many of the other women here: you can notice everything wrong you think the guys do, but you don't even see the pigheadedness of yourself and the other women here.

"I'm sorry that you're so miserable with your life, especially your lack of success with women, that you choose to deal with it like a grade-schooler. i. e. name-calling."
- You are the only who name-called, and you don't sound smart or more mature as you might think. You make a fool of yourself talking like an angry highschooler.

[kaylaS91]

@ManOnFire If anything, I support men more than women. That does usually include critiquing the incredibly faulty redpill movement, so I can see why you'd take offense.

[ManOnFire]

@kaylaS91 That certainly isn't what I've seen from you. I don't even know what a redpill movement is.

[kaylaS91]

@ManOnFire Please do give an example of 'what you've seen from me'.

[myTake Owner]

@kaylaS91 I can agree with the other guy. I wrote to you before and you did nothing but ignore my argument and then blocked me because you couldn't take the truth.

[ManOnFire]

@Tanuron And neither you or I will be the first. She's criticizing the guys she thinks are injuring women, yet doesn't even see how her behavior insults her own intelligence. She is too old to be that childish.

[kaylaS91]

@ManOnFire lol I generally only block people like yourself who are incapable of carrying on an intelligent discussion involving reason, and prefer to just throw out incredibly general statements because you're too lazy to do anything more. I, unlike you, have better things to do with my time than try and converse with someone who's got a really bad habit of regurgitating bitter statements and accusations.
(... and since you brought up age, you're 29. When are you planning on getting an actual career and life for yourself going, eh?)

[myTake Owner]

@kaylaS91 Look at this "woman" why are you acting so childish? I made a myTake which shows the inequalities men face and you come on here and complain. You need to get a life not him.

[Tanuron]

@kaylaS91 You really have blocked me? makes me curious, cause I never made any generalization against women nor men for that matter on this site, nor in real life.

[LogicBomber]

@kaylaS91 ALL countries fail to recognize male victims of rape by women. You can not use the middle east as a scapegoat for your reasoning, it is fucked up all around for most of it's laws. Any civilized society protects women in almost every way.
Trying to excuse the 99% male death toll in the work place as their own fault because they choose it, is no different than victim blaming that you feminist like to spew so often. And the audacity to then say women only don't choose those fields because they feel bias is asinine. Women don't choose those fields because they are hard. Period.
Yes you play the victim well and you block everyone who disagrees with you to silence truth over your bullshit. But EVER single thing you spew can be debunked with 5 seconds of research outside your feminist echo chamber.

How about instead of silencing, shaming tactics, and personal attacks you have a conversation which includes you listening as well as regurgitating and playing victim?

[Bobby2003]

As a boy from a family with an older sister and a younger sister i agree boys get treated differently than girls do. My mother listens to everything my sisters say not to me. My sisters get new clothes all the time not me. My mother always says you can dress up a girl cute but a boy just put a t shirt and jeans on him and it's fine. Doesn't matter ifor he looks good or not. I see a lot of things that are not fair with me and my sisters and girls at school. Why can a girl hit a boy but not the boy hit the girl? I was told that girls are better than boys.

[ThePetSquirrel]

We can all thank the feminazi's for this male oppression.

[BarbaraP]

This has actually -almost- nothing to do with feminism or feminazis. Most of these problems come from the idea that men should not show their emotions or weakness, should be powerful, should always accept sex when "offered", etc... in other words, everything that gender roles require men (and women) to be

[myTake Owner]

@BarbaraP Some of them are to do with feminazis\feminists though.

[BarbaraP]

With feminazis, sure. #1 is a great example. It's still delusional to think that male oppression was generally caused by feminism. It existed long before. Feminism was meant to uproot this type of mindset, feminazis aren't even worth mentioning

[myTake Owner]

@BarbaraP The thing is why did normal feminists let the feminazis do that to us if they are in the minority? i have a good feeling it's not a minority.

[BarbaraP]

From my point of view, feminazis hurt both women and men. It's just a problem of 2 different groups sharing the same name when they actually don't really have much in common besides their origins. Many terrorists kill in the name of Allah, but not all Muslisms are terrorists.
Feminazis are very loud, while feminists know when they're supposed to speak up and when to shut up. You won't hear much of them simply because all those countless things feminazis consider issues are not actual problems to the rest of the group. Of course, if you're from America you'll know that most women there don't consider themselves feminists due to feminazis' actions, so I'm not denying that real feminists might be a minority in the USA. But there's plenty of women who still call themselves feminists outside of America, who believe in gender equality, do their best to speak against gender oppression and nothing more than that.

[myTake Owner]

@BarbaraP Yeah i agree.

[BuchitaBuchys]

I don't think feminism is to blame for this. All these issues predate feminism.

[myTake Owner]

@BuchitaBuchys I mean first issue is feminisms fault.

[BarbaraP]

@ MyTake Owner
Yeah, not entirely, but feminazis certainly helped

[myTake Owner]

@BarbaraP They did help, you cannot deny that feminists did this as well as feminazis yet feminists say that want to be equal to men.

[Ratiocinative]

Because women vote emotionally, thus political parties cater to them emotionally with "women's issues".

While the things you mentioned may be true, men vote logically and are more concerned about other issues such as the economy and foreign policy. I don't commit crimes so I honestly don't care that men get worse punishments. I also don't commit suicide because I'm not a weak ass bitch, nor am I interested in men who choose risky jobs of their own free will, that's their choice.

[myTake Owner]

Dude men like you are the reason nothing changes because people just ignore the problem because it doesn't happen to them. It needs to change so no one is favoured in the system so its fair. It is there choice but if they don't do it who will? All jobs have a purpose and jobs rely on each other and thats how the world works.

[ADFSDF1996]

Thank you for writing this this mytake. It's well written.

[myTake Owner]

Thank you, your welcome :)