Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI'm not sure if this all would be considered bitterness but here it is. Bad experiences can make a man bitter maybe not necessarily towards women in general but towards dating and marriage (though for some guys it is women). Things like divorce, alimoney, a cheating girlfriend/wife, and abusive SO (manipulative, lying, etc), can cause on a man to be bitter. On the flip side these things can cause a man to be extremely cautious and not necessarily bitter.
These guys may tend to avoid marrying just in case and instead of dating just sign up for a string of one night stands. Some of these guys may avoid dating in general and go through life finding companionship and love in other forms.
Rejection is another thing that could cause a guys to be bitter. A guy can work on himself, realize that no woman owes him the time of day and time after time end up rejection after rejection with no dating experience. Thing is this guy could be a perfectly normal and decent guy just with bad luck or maybe he just doesn't interest women. On top of this society is also telling this guy that there's something deeply wrong about him (which he may be wondering what it is while improving himself) but won't say what it is (heck some people will just call this guy and asshole).
This could cause a guy to be bitter towards dating. He doesn't enjoy the rejection and being seen as random things so he just pulls out of dating. He instead finds enjoyment and happiness in other areas of life (while society shames him for not maning up and approaching women). Some of these guys end up in the mgtow group and other don't identify with the group and are just going through life doing their own thing. If a girl happens to show up it might change his mind on dating.
Either way, I support the choice of any man (or woman) to stay single and not date if they aren't finding much enjoyment out of it. This is because if they're bitter and open about their bitterness they're just spreading their toxicity around and nobody should have to put up with it or on the flip side if they aren't bitter and just don't enjoy it they can spend time doing things that they enjoy,40 Reply
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being taken advantage of, cheated on, dumped for someone else , etc. by women from the past which broke them. emotionally down and the only thing from that point that made them stand on the or own two feet is the animosity towards those who fucked up his life40 Reply
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+1 yThey assume every woman is low key feminist
They think we want their money so we can leave them broke
Angry that women aren't flinging their vagina's at them
Heartbroken about their ex or girl not liking them back so every woman is to blame
Lack of purpose in life
Lack of God/Jesus in their life20 Reply
+1 ynot having control of his life. Being an insecure, immature person with low self esteem. Being hurt or betrayed and deserving it but not willing to accept and correct his actions. Not willing to take responsibility for his wrong doings.
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+1 yUsually a lack of success with women. It's easier to claim that it's women's fault for superficial and shitty reasons than it is to accept that maybe they are the problem.
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This right here. Men that love blaming women for their failures. Lol... no it's you buddy. And vice versa with women.
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@Hispanic-Cool-Guy I'm glad someone has a good attitude about it lol. I don't know how anyone would know if you were dating a sociopath anyway unless they literally stalked your relationship though.
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@Hispanic-Cool-Guy
Women have been doing the mating dance in front of me for almost 30 years.
After I turned 30 women, as a collective, went from rejecting me to being interested, in a big way.
Why?
By 30 most women want to move on from fucking bad boys to looking for a husband.
The older that women become, the more that they display interest in me.
Why would I be interested in a woman who had the legal power to destroy me on a whim?
Why would I be interested in a woman who, when she was 20, would have rejected or Friend Zoned me because I was "too nice", or "boring"?
In what universe would it be a good idea to expose myself to a greater than 50 per cent risk of financial destruction, for the possibility of access to a post-menopausal vagina? - +1 y
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During my 20s and 30s I worked in the media and had active military service.
I met a lot of women.
I did not meet any women who were "lovely souls". - +1 y
Lol I like that I comment on a question about bitter guys and that attracts bitter men to my comments without fail.
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I know you don't want to hear this but crappy people tend to attract other crappy people. Sure I met not so good woman, but I have met really nice good attitude women. Actually the majority of women I come into contact with are lovely.
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I both agree and disagree with this. Mostly agree, however there are some cases where men do get screwed over multiple times such as being used or cheated out of something. The perpetrator just happened to be a woman. In a way, it can be the man's fault for trusting to easily on the partner but hey, there are many cases out there, each different as the next.
That said, it is really sad the once someone gets hit hard by another person, they tend to blame a group by association. When it comes to gender, it's just ridiculous isn't it.
Next, I agree that some people don't realise that they are the problem. I mean, have you heard of this before, "Every time I have a girlfriend, she's crazy, women are crazy!" Guess it never occurred to them that they are driving other people crazy.
You can't choose how your life pans out but you choose how you handle it.
Don't swallow that little bitter pill.
I chose not to.21 Reply
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500 opinions shared on Dating topic. Some people are just bitter, both men and women (my mom's cousin and friend from high school both seem to be those sorts of people). Often I think entitlement and jealousy are the biggest factor in bitterness. Often we wish we had the jobs, possessions, or just general lives that others have and we feel bitter that it wasn't our lot in life (often this is the case BECAUSE we are bitter).
If we feel entitled to something, we feel cheated or hurt when we don't get it. We feel lied to when someone tells us the truth... that we aren't entitled to that thing. It makes us angry and we lash out. If we don't choose to move on we become bitter with the world and people stop liking us, so we become more bitter with the world, and the cycle goes on from there.
I try never to let myself feel entitled to things and I make an effort to be content with where I am in life. I've seen the effects those two things have on people. There was a man my mom knew in highschool who was very bitter for a long time. He liked my mom at one point, and to this day he'll call each year on her birthday... he also has a habit of calling after any serious storms to see if my dad is okay... I think he's waiting for my dad to die off so he can make a move on my mom (maybe not any more but that was the impression most people got for many years). More recently he's become a far less bitter man and is actually somewhat pleasant to be around. But the point is, that it tears people apart a little at a time, and if it is allowed to sit and fester it just becomes a cycle in which things get worse and worse.12 Reply- +1 y
Thank you. I always like your answers you put so much thought. You helped me to see a guys point of view a little more clear.
A man can become bitter from many different things. In the case of women most men become bitter because of relationships that failed because their partner abandoned them, used them or manipulated them. Their trust in other human beings, especially women is poor because of these experiences, and any behavior that reminds them of that partner or relationship generally bring out a mans bitterness. If you ask him about his material life, job and car, he may have interpreted it as you are materialistic or remind him of his ex whose only interest in him was his money. don’t take it personally guys like this have a hard time forgiving and forgetting
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I see what you mean. But doesn't the pent up anger stifle a man to move on?
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I hope they can move past the bitterness. It's sad to think about someone going through life so unhappy.
Being fucked over by women will do it.
Most bitter men do not hate women. Rather, they recognise female nature for what it is and are honest about what they see.
Look at the divorce stastics and how the law and courts have been loaded against men to a degree that is grotesque.
Look at how men are discriminated against in education and employment.
It should not surprise anyone that a significant and increasing number of men refuse to participate in a gender interaction that is gamed against them.
Every day more men go their own way, but that does not equal a hatred of women.50 Reply492 opinions shared on Dating topic. Generally the reasons are similar to the women that are embittered towards men. Bad experience is a big one, and so is the obsession with the opposite sex supposedly having it better than you.
Feminists today often fall into this trap, and in response to the nonsense of modern-day feminism, certain groups of men have also fallen into it. They both think they have it so hard and the other has it so good, and it deludes them into thinking that every member of the opposite sex is the devil himself.20 Reply3.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. Bitter men got screwed over by assholes, who happen to be the female gender. And then based on the gender of the offender they then turn bitter and believe, that everyone from this gender (women) are like the offender. Those men can be typically found in MGTOW.
Others got used for their money and got basically screwed over too by gold diggers and entitled (sometimes hypergamous) females.
Others turn bitter because some assholes, who happen to be females belittled them, called them bad names and have basically hurt them. Bad experiences.
And the lack of sex and lack of success with women also contributes to it.
But mainly it's the gold diggers and the crazy bitches, who turned them bitter.30 Reply- 2.4K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 ySome guys have had bad experiences with women. Maybe they were cheated on, or rejected for dates, etc. Instead of compartmentalizing those experiences in their minds as relating to specific, individual women, they extrapolate their feelings about those specific women to the entire female gender. Which of course is ridiculous, and their bitterness leads in some cases to misogyny and stupid movements like MGTOW.
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+1 yInsecurity combined with what they see on the media. A good example is other lonely and inexperienced men propagating false information like women riding the carousel while in college, women wanting you only for you money, women being cold and superficial, etc. MGTOW and porn are just a few examples of groups that could be perpetuating false information of WOMEN to MEN. When men these myths, they're led to believe women are not worth it and in turn, become bitter towards them.
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MGTOW observations re female behaviour and nature are not false.
I have seen the carousel in action, as well as other aspects of female nature.
I have lived it. 😥
These negative aspects of female nature have been weaponised by changes to law.
Interaction with women fails an objective cost/risk/benefit analysis. - +1 y
I know some women who are like this and have slept around. But, the majority? I've talked to many and they don't know what these men are talking about. There's plenty of women that ride the carousel, sure. Not the majority though. I think these men who are propagating this are insecure, lonely, and have had BAD experiences with women.
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Fair enough
It is deep rooted.
Not knowing how to handle certain circumstance that happen that are out of his control. Same can be said for a woman.
But usually what makes him/her bitter is how they were brought up to navigate through problems.
Speaking from experience I was surrounded by negativity growing up even when simple issues occurred. So I grew up being too picky, I had to adjust.30 Reply
+1 yBitterness training boot camp. Once you have been through it and human nature is exposed in raw form it is difficult if not impossible to put that genie back in the bottle. With age goes naivety, optimism, and life’s bliss…. So there you have it. Bitterness is an acquired taste like the coffee comment herein.
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+1 yMen want women to like them for their physical form, like men like women for strictly their physical form. When a woman likes a man for superficial stuff like cars or money, the man takes this as she doesn't truly like the guy, she just likes his stuff or money. In turn this makes a man very bitter and angry. Gold diggers man.
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Exactly this is why a lother of men are bitter.
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Yup. Women looking for sugar daddys make me mad. Fucking leeches
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It's most women though, they might not be directly after your money but they will value ambition over your looks.
For me it's from having a rough past and lack of communication and social life and from being alone all the time and having barely any friends and being betrayed and alone most of the my life and having gone through a tough time But I can't say for everyone but I personally can only say for myself
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As guys get older they drink more and more and get more bitter...21 Reply- +1 y
Damnit that coffee! lol
+1 yIsn't it obvious? They've been burned. Just like the women who bitch about men all the time. People hurt people and make them bitter. It happens every day.
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+1 ysame thing that happens to women. lying, cheating, stealing, games.
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I've had my fair share of bad relationships. I've been turned down plenty. But I'm not going on a hate spree.
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most of don't have a "hate spree" they would rather be single and not get screwed by the legal system
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I'm just trying to understand. I've been seeing more and more bitter guys lately. I understand the child support being an issue. If that's what you meant by legal system.
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alimony, etc. it's rigged
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I'm 100% with you.
Bitter men are usually ones who have had every chance for success in life and still failed so they turn to hating and blaming the system and society instead of taking a deep look at themselves
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+1 yCrap mother who raised him, crap dead end job that pay pennies, low self esteem, low confidence, drug addict or alcoholic, being divorce, being all alone and being broke.
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That reads like experience. - +1 y
+1 yCould be the pressure of society for them not to express certain feelings. That may cause them to express bitterness instead.
20 ReplyCountless cases of women destroying men's lives through divorce, unwanted children, false rape accusations, etc
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+1 yThe root of bitterness is lack of communication between both genders, it's not a one or the other type thing.
10 Replysome reasons could be : Been cheated on by a woman before
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+1 ySimple question, simple answer: it's because they feel the world is not as they think it should be.
20 ReplyUsually bad history, the same thing that makes women bitter toward men
20 ReplyThe same reasons some women are bitter against all men.
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+1 yI think some guys get burned by bad dating experiences, I felt that way for a long time, but I learned to not let those things eat away @ me, you can't or it'll tear you apart.
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+1 yThat sex and dating is far easier for women yet they still complain.
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Also female hypergamy as a biological principal.
+1 yif he has a lot of bas past experiences he would be like that some of them at least
20 ReplyThe only thing that made me bitter was a controlling woman. Rest all is fine.
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+1 ywoman's attitude towards them.
"Behind every great man, is a great wife." woman can make or break a guy.30 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yShitty personal experiences, often starting in childhood and a generally pessimistic and angry attitude.
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That's cheating! lol
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Still cheating!!! But he does make good points. I'll let it slide. lol
broken heart.
52 Replyguys are dumb in general and afraid of rejection.
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+1 yWomen making you horny and leaving you.
30 Reply2.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. I sometimes drink bitter lemon
20 Replyeveryone is different I'd say
30 ReplyWomen make men bitter.
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+1 yBad choices you learn from hopefully
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+1 yAn unending amount of pain
20 Reply Lack of success make them like this !!
20 ReplyLoneliness
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+1 ymaybe a small penis?
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+1 yPast!
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+1 yLittle wangs.
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