What do you think about this video?

[Benedek38]

I can't add too much to it, so enjoy the video. I am interested in your opinion about it

[devilman666]

Such unreasonable standards and almost felt like it was things incels think women look for. God this woman is dumb lol. She should have led with the dealbreaker and then decided from there if height really matter that much or if she was just trying to show off at that point. I understand wanting someone who enjoys what you do and has similar life plans and all, but the height one was the one that fucked her, it's hard to find love when you cut out such a huge chunk of the population because of their genetics. I see it as the same as refusing to date an Asian or a blonde simply for being either of those things, it shouldn't be so important but women are convinced that their standards should never lower at all, presumably because they gain so much self confidence from knowing they're seen as attractive and high value. Seriously, they'll complain about men who have specific preferences like only liking skinny girls, then they turn around and say their standards are just what they prefer and no one should want them to change.

[devilman666]

"I only date women who qre shorter than 5'3" with at least C cup boobs, she has to be no older than me, so 22 (I don't want to date a granny). She must not party because I think drinking is stupid and she must enjoy walking away from sex covered in bruises. She has to conform to all my demands or else we simply can't date, my standards are set in stone and can't be changed. I don't want to date some loser who falls into 90% of society, I just want someone with a similar personality to my own who is a specific height, age, and physical fitness level." They may as well have filtered out short guys and guys below 26 to begins with since those two alone will likely cut out 80+% of the men.

[devilman666]

Bitch wants to party her kidney to death and then have kids at 34 or whenever she finally decides she's done being a child herself, fuck her, let her do her dumb shit and then end up alone, maybe women will eventually learn to pick realistic desires in partners, she may as well have added in "I dont date micro penis, if yours is below 7 inches then leave." Actually, she was probably getting there but everyone bailed too early.

[NineBreaker]

I think she's conflating "values" with superficial preferences. There's nothing wrong with having preferences, no matter how ridiculous they are, so long as you can live with the consequences of having unreasonable standards.

Again, having high standards is good. Having unreasonable standards is also OK. Not accepting the consequences of having said unreasonable standards is not OK.

Like one of the guys told her at the end of the video: "You're gonna be single for a while." And he's right. It's not because she's not attractive, it's because her standards are unrealistic. At the end of the day, it's her choice; it's completely up to her.

I saw the video with the reverse; where it's a guy surrounded by women. His criteria were not as restrictive, but he had one that was very unreasonable: She MUST BE a professional artist; as in her career has to be in art or something like that. I thought it was idiotic.

LOL @ the Thanos or "TIFFTHANOS" reference.

[Anonymous]

It's gonna sting most guys but eh.

She may be shallow but still guys are gonna want her despite of that because she's hot. They'll run only after girls like that, despite of knowing how ridiculous their standards are (nothing wrong with being picky by the way, js) .

Whereas simple and average gals (yay me!) are overlooked because we aren't as good looks as them.

When finally guys realise that they can't really get that girl, through settle for likes of us.

Maybe it happens with guys too.

My point is, unlike what 99.99% GaG thinks, women don't have it easy either. I'm talking about average 5/10 or below girl. It's only 6+ that have it easy, both men and women.

[Benedek38]

"She may be shallow but still guys are gonna want her despite of that because she's hot."
That's not insulting, that's just human nature.

"They'll run only after girls like that"
I entirely disagree here, most guys know they have no chances with really attractive girls.

"Whereas simple and average gals (yay me!) are overlooked because we aren't as good looks as them."
Well... that goes both ways.

"When finally guys realise that they can't really get that girl, through settle for likes of us."
Considering men are expected to make advances, I find it logical that they'd try their luck with the highest value partner possible. When girls start asking out guys as a custom, we can talk about whether it is an ethnical move, but I doubt girls who ask out guys normally go for total losers (Not saying you are, it's just a figure of speech).

"Maybe it happens with guys too."
You bet your ass it does.

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[Benedek38]

"My point is, unlike what 99.99% GaG thinks, women don't have it easy either."
Nobody said they do.
"I'm talking about average 5/10 or below girl."
I'd draw the line at 3. 5/10 girls usually have enough guys attracted to them, and even 4/10 girls have some guys to fall back on. Good luck finding anybody as a 4/10 guy if you aren't rich.
https://archive.is/ZJymw
As you can see from the message return rates, even a 4/10 girl is equally likely to receive a message on this particular dating site as a 6/10 guy.

But I really don't want to make this into a pissing contest. I was just curious as to what people think of this video, because it was particularly annoying to me for a simple reason: Let's be honest here. She is a pretty girl, but far from special. Apart from her unrealistic expectations, she didn't offer a lot - no sense of humor, no depth, only her beauty. Meanwhile these guy - actually quite good looking guys - were really witty and likable. It just seemed ridiculous.

[Opinion Owner]

"it's just human nature"
I have a longgggg response to it but I'm not gonna post it here.

I hear many times that women have it easy on this site. I'd be richer if I got a dollar for everytime someone on this site said that girls have it easier in dating world.

It says 2/3 guys ask top 1/3 women. This kind of confirms my theory of guys only running after hot girls who they know are gonna have high standards. The same guys then later whine about women being shallow. Hello? Then why didn't you message remaining 2/3 girls? Maybe they weren't as shallow.

Anyway, you are right about she not offering other things. But 90% guys will never get the hint and are still gonna pursue her.

[Benedek38]

"This kind of confirms my theory of guys only running after hot girls who they know are gonna have high standards."
Not "only". If you look at it. It is anhard almost linear function (until the very end, where there is some anomaly). The reason it is linear like that is because a 7/10 girl will get interest from every guy up to 7/10 (or around that), while a 4/10 girl will only get 4/7 as much attention, as 5,6, and 7/10 guys won't be interested in her.
Again, it seems logical to me that guys would aim as high as they can given that dating is a roulette for them. It takes little effort to send an attractive girl a message, but if she likes you, you made a good deal.
It is logical from the guy's perspective. If you don't like this - the only way to fix this is to make women take risks in dating too. That will give them a feedback as to what attractiveness group they should aim for individually.

[Benedek38]

"The same guys then later whine about women being shallow. Hello? Then why didn't you message remaining 2/3 girls?"
Why do you assume that they don't? Did youyou expect a uniform distrobution between really attractive and totally unattracrive women? That makes no sense.

Speaking of statistics in text. like this is really bothersome, so I don't think analysing it in depth is going to get us anywhere.

"Maybe they weren't as shallow."
Maybe. But maybe I do message them, and they are just as shallow. Remember, you still live in India. Cultural differences and all. Honestly without wanting to be rude, Indian guys are some of the most disgusting people on dating sites, so I wouldn't be surprised if you were a victim of this.

"Anyway, you are right about she not offering other things. But 90% guys will never get the hint and are still gonna pursue her."
Well, look at it from. their perspective - they got paid for a video, and had the chance of getting a girl. They had nothing to lose her

[Opinion Owner]

Look at women's curve. Even if they rate guys less attractive still it says
"On the other hand, when it comes to actual messaging, women shift their expectations only just slightly ahead of the curve, which is a healthier pattern than guys’ pursuing the all-but-unattainable"

[Opinion Owner]

I'd disagree with the generalization you're making about Indian guys here. The well mannered and educated Indian guys (there are plenty, trust me) are way better than Western guys in my opinion. These guys are the kind that value intelligence and other qualities on a woman and think beyond her appearance. Unlike their western counterparts who have ridiculous high standards. I have read somewhere that guys rejec girls after having sex with her because she had scars. Indian guys (again, smart and well educated ones) would never do that.

[Opinion Owner]

*ridiculous high standards about looks

[Benedek38]

"Look at women's curve. Even if they rate guys less attractive still it says
"On the other hand, when it comes to actual messaging, women shift their expectations only just slightly ahead of the curve, which is a healthier pattern than guys’ pursuing the all-but-unattainable""

Yeah, but it also says:
"the average-looking woman has convinced herself that the vast majority of males aren’t good enough for her, but she then goes right out and messages them anyway."
Let me ask you, how much chance does a guy have if he is starting off at the mercy of the woman?
Plus this isn't taking into consideration who initiated the conversation.
And I explained how the distribution of messages makes sense. For guys it takes literally zero effort to message the hot girls, even if they don't have a chance. Think of it like a frwe lottery ticket, but you can win 50 million dollars withbit. Sounds good right?

[Benedek38]

"I'd disagree with the generalization you're making about Indian guys here. The well mannered and educated Indian guys (there are plenty, trust me) are way better than Western guys in my opinion."
Whatever you say. But I don't see those guys often.
And I wasn't generalising, these were my own experiences. There were a few normal guys, but most of them were harsh and simple minded, even engineers I talk to. But again, exceptions.

"These guys are the kind that value intelligence and other qualities on a woman and think beyond her appearance. Unlike their western counterparts who have ridiculous high standards."
Talk about generalisations.

"have read somewhere that guys rejec girls after having sex with her because she had scars."
That'd the biggest bullshit I have ever heard. I assure you, that's not a trend anywhere.

[Opinion Owner]

I don't know, I just see it a lot. Maybe I'm generalizing too,, I'd like to meet guys from there who aren't like that. Not to mention that India never has crazy trends like thigh gap, A4 paper waist etc etc.

[Benedek38]

"India never has crazy trends like thigh gap, A4 paper waist etc etc."
Don't quote me on this, but those usually come from Korea. They have a crazy obsession with looking like dolls.

And honestly it is impossible to generalise the West accurately, because that includes Europe, and trust me when I say that Europe is a clusterfuck. Practically every country has a radically different culture and approach to dating, though the American approach is spreading by the day.
I'd say that here I am as an example of a western man, try me, but that's really not a possibility. But rest assured, I have no issue with dating 4/10 girls, though I admit, I do have some standards I feel healthy. The general rule of thumb is that if I am able to be attracted to her physically, that's a start. WIthout that, there is no point in even starting, because neither of us will be fully commited.

[ManOnFire]

@Schrodingerscat That girl wasn't even particularly special looking. In fact she wasn't even as pretty to me as you are. And I don't like Asian girls much because of the way they have about themselves and their obssession with white skin, so I wouldn't have gone for her. But I get some of what you're saying.

[Opinion Owner]

There's nothing wrong with having certain standards. But then whether you'd actually get what you want is another story- this video being classic example of it

[Opinion Owner]

@ManOnFire aw that's very sweet of you 😅 I personally think otherwise but thank you 😇

by the way Indians are also obsessed with white skin :/

[ManOnFire]

@Schrodingerscat Yeah, I know they are too, and that bothers me.

[Cammy137]

Just silly. It wouldn't shock me if she did die alone with such ridiculous standards. The baby thing obviously makes sense but height and age aren't that big a deal

[Benedek38]

Actually, I'd say that's equally if not more unreasonable. She is 26. That means she doesn't want kids before 33.
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As you can see, after 33, the chance of a defect in the child is rapidly increasing. Unless she can time it perfectly, and have one kid at 34 and one at maybe 35, she is seriously risking down syndrome or other diseases for the kid.
Obviously it is not much of a gamble, but she is definitely irresponsible.

[Cammy137]

Sure but there is no guarantee that she would still wants kids by that stage. I think she is more implying that she doesn't want to be tied down to raising a child at least for the next 7 years. As she says in the video, she still wants to travel and she wants to focus all her love on a romantic partner first and foremost.

[Benedek38]

"there is no guarantee that she would still wants kids by that stage."
That just makes it worse, in my opinion. As a 26+ year old guy, I couldn't afford wasting 7 years of my life until she makes up her mind. Just saying.

"she still wants to travel and she wants to focus all her love on a romantic partner"
Sounds to me more like a nice dream than a possible reality. Does she have the money to travel? Or does he expect someone else to pay for it? Travelling is not cheap, and comes with relinquishing your existence in a particular country.

[Cammy137]

Well that's probably another reason why she will end up alone but as someone who doesn't want kids, her suggestion of wanting kids in 7 years would be the deal breaker.
Sure but traveling becomes even more difficult when a child is involved which I think was her point. She wants to at least have the opportunity to save up some money and travel before her money and time are focused entirely on a child. Traveling is pretty simple these days though. Someone without commitments and the desire to travel really has no reason not to.

[Benedek38]

I might not have the same perspective about travel - being from Eastern Europe, let's just say on a month's salary here you could survive in the US foe. About a week. So you might be right there.

[Moezan]

These guys are so beta lol, this is the definition of being desperate. Not to mention that it's highly unlikely any relationship like this would even last, considering it's such a forced environment and not a natural zing like regular couples.