These things are changing because of the times not because of standards, things like the MeToo movement, women marches. Equality this and that... That is why its changing and its not done changing either, the more women start to want to step up, the more men will step back.
Soon it will be women doing a lot of the male dominated social aspects of life... like initiating dating etc.
@MarkTheory Actually, you're wrong. Her post means that she is well aware that she holds an unpopular opinion, and there will be people who are upset with her opinion enough to comment such as yourself. I noticed you and @crazy8000 zeroed in on the 'butthurt' part of the comment while completely ignoring her actual opinion. That, in and of itself, signifies that you believe there is some truth in her words that you cannot argue even if you do not wish to admit it.
I ignored that part of her opinion because I don't believe girls have low dating standards at all. And if I did believe that, what she said could go for both genders. You can even look at my own individual opinion. I'm just tired of gearing the same old "If you have a different opinion then me your this and that".
@MarkTheory That's not what she said. The truth is a lot of men in particular will be butt hurt over this comment because a lot of men do not believe they are lazy, and it's easy to chalk up being single to 'too high of standards' instead of actually putting effort in to getting to know a girl and being faithful. Her post was specific to 'lazy men', who would in fact be butt hurt over this. If you are not a lazy man then the comment shouldn't be bothering you and you most likely would have ignored the comment.
I made it clear it wasn't about the lazy men part about 2 times now. I know for a fact I'm lazy in some things, that doesn't bother me. Like I said, it's the "if you don't agree with my post, you're this and that" mentality. That's all. But I guess because I commented, that automatically makes me butthurt huh?
@MarkTheory It's not about the 'if you don't agree with my post, you're this and that' because she specifically mentioned one type of man, and that's the type she is saying will be butthurt. If you aren't that type of man, then the last sentence would not bother you.
I feel like I've made that clear, and I don't understand why that's not clicking.
I feel like you're trolling now. If not, I'm obviously talking about the principle. I see what you're saying. But I'm speaking on the PRINCIPLE. And you're proving my point. Because even though I admit to being lazy and I don't even think this question is legit, you would classify me as butthurt because I disagree with her way of thinking. Now be honest, you would think I'm butthurt right?
@MarkTheory Yes, I'm completely trolling on my question. Are you serious?
If anything, I actually think you're trolling now because you just said you don't even think this question is legit. Why are you responding to any part of this question if you truly feel that way?
And, yes, to answer your question, you are butthurt.
Exactly you think I'm butthurt because my beliefs don't align with OPs. And I responded to let her know I don't think she is right. That is the purpose of this app right? To get opinions from others?
Literally all I'm saying is that just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean they're butthurt. @allie_oops if you agree with that then say that and it's done.
In contradiction to many others here (I鈥檓 sure this will be downvoted), I was talking about this with my guy friends and even they said they agreed guys would put more effort in, particularly in relation to sex and commitment.
A lot of women already have ridiculously high standards in terms of relationship and men don't bother with them. This is not a solution. Also, a quick reminder that you ladies are far from perfect, just like us guys, so don't act like women are victims of this, that they have no responsibilities and they don't need to improve.
Money is not a standard as long as he makes a sufficient amount, demanding that he makes more than you, you're a gold digger. If men had the same standards as you, you would never find a man, unless he makes exactly as much as you do. How unrealistic.
I honestly think women have high standard in general. I know I did when I was single. Maybe it has more to do with the increase of hookup culture where you come from?
Look, if you're jealous of other people, let the dust settle and you won't be in time. Stop hating on people's relationships just because you don't think the guy is that attractive compared to her. There's more to it than looks. I've seen guys literally 1/10 as handsome as me with girls who were insanely sexy.
It depends on what the standards are. Some guys might think women's standards are already too high like education, status, wealth, charisma, looks, utility etc. etc. But you might be referring to women having low standards in that they often find themselves with what they call "fukbois" or guys that cheat.
i agree with you only on the first point which is not wait 6 months to have sex... but hey if someone truly cares and is in love with the other one thats not an issue, also not making the same amount of money is not an issue neither all the other things, which just makes me think you are not that good of a person to criticize others when you think in the same way or worse
Men are already doing all the work when it comes to dating. Expecting them to put more effort in would be like ancient Egyptian pharaohs complaining how their slaves are not building the pyramids fast enough and how they need to work harder. In other words, until women get up off their asses and actually start contributing to something, they have no right to complain
what women don't realize is that they hold so much power. They choose to be shallow, hoes and spoiled. Which causes men to settle for being playas and lonely.
If woman can change out of this modern day bullshit, the earth can prevail. There would be less bullshit.
Women have high standards. They want men to be rich but not spend too much time working, good looking but not put too much effort, have a Greek god body but not workout at the gym and must party and drink, be emotional and stoic. Basically wants him to he good everything without actually doing anything.
Talking in the theoretical is always difficult, because if things were different people would not really be who they are. Pretty much regardless of which culture they are in women have to put more effort in then men. In theory if things were different men would have to give more effort, but then women would not women and men would not be men in the way we understand the two today.
No, because men set the standards by lead, women have no standard because they don鈥檛 ask us on dates, if the tables where turned and women too men out and only went to high class restaurants then you鈥檇 be setting a standard
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These things are changing because of the times not because of standards, things like the MeToo movement, women marches. Equality this and that... That is why its changing and its not done changing either, the more women start to want to step up, the more men will step back.
Soon it will be women doing a lot of the male dominated social aspects of life... like initiating dating etc.
I guess that would weed out the lazy men from the dating pool.
I'm waiting for the butthurt posts now. 😂
Someone got buthurt and tries to look the opposite 馃槀馃槀馃槀
I couldn't care less. If I actually cared, I would have written a long ass answer.
@crazy8000 exactly
If you classify any refutation to your argument as someone being butthurt, it sounds like you're well aware that your point is invalid.
I didn't say that anyone was butthurt. Maybe you could stop living in your world and pick up a dictionary.
@MarkTheory Actually, you're wrong. Her post means that she is well aware that she holds an unpopular opinion, and there will be people who are upset with her opinion enough to comment such as yourself. I noticed you and @crazy8000 zeroed in on the 'butthurt' part of the comment while completely ignoring her actual opinion. That, in and of itself, signifies that you believe there is some truth in her words that you cannot argue even if you do not wish to admit it.
I ignored that part of her opinion because I don't believe girls have low dating standards at all. And if I did believe that, what she said could go for both genders. You can even look at my own individual opinion. I'm just tired of gearing the same old "If you have a different opinion then me your this and that".
@MarkTheory That's not what she said. The truth is a lot of men in particular will be butt hurt over this comment because a lot of men do not believe they are lazy, and it's easy to chalk up being single to 'too high of standards' instead of actually putting effort in to getting to know a girl and being faithful. Her post was specific to 'lazy men', who would in fact be butt hurt over this. If you are not a lazy man then the comment shouldn't be bothering you and you most likely would have ignored the comment.
I made it clear it wasn't about the lazy men part about 2 times now. I know for a fact I'm lazy in some things, that doesn't bother me. Like I said, it's the "if you don't agree with my post, you're this and that" mentality. That's all. But I guess because I commented, that automatically makes me butthurt huh?
@MarkTheory It's not about the 'if you don't agree with my post, you're this and that' because she specifically mentioned one type of man, and that's the type she is saying will be butthurt. If you aren't that type of man, then the last sentence would not bother you.
I feel like I've made that clear, and I don't understand why that's not clicking.
I feel like you're trolling now. If not, I'm obviously talking about the principle. I see what you're saying. But I'm speaking on the PRINCIPLE. And you're proving my point. Because even though I admit to being lazy and I don't even think this question is legit, you would classify me as butthurt because I disagree with her way of thinking. Now be honest, you would think I'm butthurt right?
@MarkTheory Yes, I'm completely trolling on my question. Are you serious?
If anything, I actually think you're trolling now because you just said you don't even think this question is legit. Why are you responding to any part of this question if you truly feel that way?
And, yes, to answer your question, you are butthurt.
Exactly you think I'm butthurt because my beliefs don't align with OPs. And I responded to let her know I don't think she is right. That is the purpose of this app right? To get opinions from others?
Sounds like womansplaining and someone that only thinks that their point of view exists.
Literally all I'm saying is that just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean they're butthurt. @allie_oops if you agree with that then say that and it's done.
Women don't have low standards at all.
In fact I'd say they sometimes have way too high standards.
Height bring one of the most common ones I think they could do without.
Sure , have a base level of standards so you don't get abused or manipulated but if women shed the unnecessary standards then more men would date.
In contradiction to many others here (I鈥檓 sure this will be downvoted), I was talking about this with my guy friends and even they said they agreed guys would put more effort in, particularly in relation to sex and commitment.
My male co workers are all married and they all picked their partners because they had standards 馃槶
A lot of women already have ridiculously high standards in terms of relationship and men don't bother with them. This is not a solution. Also, a quick reminder that you ladies are far from perfect, just like us guys, so don't act like women are victims of this, that they have no responsibilities and they don't need to improve.
Money is not a standard as long as he makes a sufficient amount, demanding that he makes more than you, you're a gold digger. If men had the same standards as you, you would never find a man, unless he makes exactly as much as you do. How unrealistic.
I honestly think women have high standard in general. I know I did when I was single. Maybe it has more to do with the increase of hookup culture where you come from?
i don't feel like women have low standards at all xD i think compared to men, womens standards are through the roof.
Look, if you're jealous of other people, let the dust settle and you won't be in time. Stop hating on people's relationships just because you don't think the guy is that attractive compared to her. There's more to it than looks. I've seen guys literally 1/10 as handsome as me with girls who were insanely sexy.
It depends on what the standards are. Some guys might think women's standards are already too high like education, status, wealth, charisma, looks, utility etc. etc. But you might be referring to women having low standards in that they often find themselves with what they call "fukbois" or guys that cheat.
Either way I don't really know the answer
i agree with you only on the first point which is not wait 6 months to have sex... but hey if someone truly cares and is in love with the other one thats not an issue, also not making the same amount of money is not an issue neither all the other things, which just makes me think you are not that good of a person to criticize others when you think in the same way or worse
Men are already doing all the work when it comes to dating. Expecting them to put more effort in would be like ancient Egyptian pharaohs complaining how their slaves are not building the pyramids fast enough and how they need to work harder. In other words, until women get up off their asses and actually start contributing to something, they have no right to complain
Of course.
what women don't realize is that they hold so much power. They choose to be shallow, hoes and spoiled. Which causes men to settle for being playas and lonely.
If woman can change out of this modern day bullshit, the earth can prevail. There would be less bullshit.
Not saying men are perfect cuz they are not OKAY!
Women have high standards.
They want men to be rich but not spend too much time working, good looking but not put too much effort, have a Greek god body but not workout at the gym and must party and drink, be emotional and stoic.
Basically wants him to he good everything without actually doing anything.
Talking in the theoretical is always difficult, because if things were different people would not really be who they are. Pretty much regardless of which culture they are in women have to put more effort in then men. In theory if things were different men would have to give more effort, but then women would not women and men would not be men in the way we understand the two today.
Women don't have low standards and men already put a lot of effort into it. Men have to initiate everything
I have very high standards, what are you talking about?
I wasn鈥檛 aware you were the entire female population
Most girls i know of just date men that are like them. I didn't see a supermodel dating a fat guy with no job
Bring back women who want men to offer them a lot more than they can offer the men?
Yeah, I'm sure men are going to be all lining up.
No, because men set the standards by lead, women have no standard because they don鈥檛 ask us on dates, if the tables where turned and women too men out and only went to high class restaurants then you鈥檇 be setting a standard
Yes, because they would not have a chance if they didn't.
Have you ever visited restaurant toilet to pee
@ready_4 No actually, I don't use public restrooms.
Home washroom