Is giving up on women worth it?

[Unit1]

Not suggesting that but I'm just asking.
I personally don't think, that giving up on women yields anything good. I love them too much. They don't cause me any harm or pose any dangers (as long as I don't let myself being taken advantage of that is). I believe the "reward" may be very worth the effort in some cases.

I mean MGTOW has their own business, so I am not going to touch on that. Or those, who prefer to stay single. I have no problems with them or any questions for them in those regards.

But how about you? Do you think it's worth giving up completely on women and miss out on love? Even if you don't believe, that women's love exists until you see it yourself?

Ladies - your votes will count towards the opposite sex (giving up on men).

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Quitting is absolutely worth it! I actively recommend that

Nothing wrong with being a quitter. No shame in that. It may or may not be for me.

I really don't think it's worth giving up on women (or men for the ladies). Taking a break is one thing however.

I think quitting like that leads to long term misery, that is masked in pseudo-happiness. Not a wise choice if you ask me

Whoever said money can't solve your problems Must not have had enough money to solve 'em (Happiness is the same price as red-bottoms (or GTX 1080 Ti))

[Anoniemus]

It depends on the person. Some people should absolutely quit because they refuse to see that they contribute to their own issues. They wouldn't be acceptable dating material anyway and thus would make it much easier for wo/men to pursue others. I really do doubt the men who say they are genuinely happy without a woman in their lives unless if they are consistently getting a form of sexual relief. I am sure there are some men out there like this, but I can't imagine a straight/bisexual man (that prefers women) saying "I am so glad I dumped women and focused more on myself" when he isn't having any sex.

Some should take a break if they think they aren't having any luck, but if they're struggling with depression/loneliness, it would make it even harder for them.

I opted for long-term misery. Some people are genuinely happy alone but most humans crave contact and belonging, which relationships contribute.

[19magic]

I think taking a break is one thing if your grieving or have heartbreak from a relationship before then take some time, but I've a friend who doesn't really like men, doesn't think she could ever date a guy earning more than her, or who works in a more technical job than her (ie business, physicist etc she's planning on being a chemist) and part of me feels a bit of pity for her views. I don't care if the guy I end up with is earning more or less than me, I find the more typical musculine jobs more attractive to me but it doesn't bother me either way

[SteveSmith1985]

NOOOOO man. I don't even need to know your story to say, no man. Absolutely not.

The thing about life is that you really don't know what random unexpected shit's going to happen.

Things are random. You may have been lonely your whole life, but next Tuesday, you end up meeting someone randomly, and your life is forever changed. Just because things haven't gone well yet in no way suggests that they WON'T. You never see that Tuesday coming before it gets there. But on Wednesday... the way you felt before that random meeting will seem like a different person went through it in another lifetime.

Giving up gets you nowhere.

p. s. Stay away from the "men's rights" idiots. If anyone tells you they know what women REALLY want... that person is 100% full of shit, and is about to give you the worst possible advice. Be weary of that trap. It's a dead end, and dead wrong.

[OddBeMe]

If you ever research incels, it’s obvious how deranged and angry they are. So your thoughts are correct. Keep meeting and befriending women. Eventually you’ll find love.

[Aguysopinion4799]

I personally feel like it is the reason for the large increase in gay people, because the genders are starting to give up on the opposite gender and as such feel like they just can't get along, think of it like this.

Gay theoretically means 100% given up on the opposite gender
Bi-sexual theoretically means 50% given up on the opposite gender
Asexual theoretically means giving up on both genders
and so on.

Now it is fair to say it is a sexual preference we are born with, but it is also fair to say that a lot of people become a different sexual preference because they have experienced situations with a gender that has put them off, leading to a preference of a different gender.

[alice55]

I don't know, giving up mean giving up for your whole life so it might be a little bit extreme (especially if you didn't have got any real bad experience personally).
So I would say if you feel confused or anything else taking a break (even a big one) is the best first option and after your break then see how you feel and then you can decide either you want to give up or not.

I would say best option is to live your life without waiting for anytime and just let life do itself without actively searching for anything (like not actively searching one relationship or actively avoiding one).

[Cherokeehp]

All those MGTOW guys are woman hating misogynists. If they want to “go their own way” then I wholeheartedly encourage them to. It’s a win/win for everybody. They don’t have to interact with us, and we don’t have to deal with their whining annoying asses.

[SteveSmith1985]

I agree with you. Wholeheartedly. But this guy isn't MGTOW... he's flirting with it. Those souls can still be saved.

Problem is... your contempt (believe me... I feel the same way) unfortunately, with guys who are on the edge... it helps push them over. It completely reinforces to him that women are just what MGTOW says they are--all against him.

I hate this Men's Right's bullshit SO much, I can't even begin to tell you. At the same time, It;s scary. I mean that literally. I am genuinely worried. This cancerous mysoginistic movement really is spreading like some sort of virus would.

You're young, which may not have allowed you to see just how OUT OF NOWHERE this whole "movement' was. It also might not allow you to fully appreciate just how fast it's spreading. But it is legitimately scary.

say 4 or 5 years ago... the idea of 'men going their own way' was something nobody but maybe a few fringe nutjobs had ever even heard of,. Now it's a fucking acronym. Everyone kows what MGTOW means. And they are on the more moderate side of the spectrum of this misogyny movement... the rest is even worse and more twisted.

There's a lot of guys on here who've had a rough go at it, and are prime candidates to join this spreading misogyny movment MGTOW seeminig to be a sorta natural place to drop into "the movement'.

Please. Try not to just reinforce what they already think of women. Again, I understand WHY you have that reaction. You react to the men's movement as opposed to a loanly, sad, hurting guy who isn't part of the men's movement... but who's pushed further towards it.

If we don't save some of the one's that can be saved... I'm seriously frighted for what things are going to look like in 20 years. Cheers :)

[Unit1]

Not all MGTOW are the same.
Some MGTOW do their own thing and you won't see them here. Those guys are the true MGTOW, they may have their own home and live life the way they like - those I can only respect.
But the loud and vocal ones from MGTOW, who you can see here saying "I am MGTOW, bitches! wahmen are evil sloots, whose hive minded mission is to destroy all men!!!" or those MGTOW videos on youtube like MGTOW101 (he's a goner now. YT banned him for violations but there are tributes to him available on YT)

[SteveSmith1985]

@Unit1 I hear what you're saying. But I find the entire premise of MGTOW to be SO wrong, SO twisted, SO sad, it offends me to my very core. It's an indication of something seriously wrong amongst men and boys these days.

The idea that a significant number of men are open to, and increasingly buying into this to me clearly shows something's very very wrong.

If I hadn't had women in my life: My mother, my lovers, my friends... Honestly... my life would have been devoid of most of it's happiness. I have had such positive experiences with women (particularly some very close friendships) my entire life, that I KNOW MGTOW have a false view of women and their relation to men. Every single day of my life has given me evidence to support the exact opposite view of women.

So when I think about what an emotionally stunted person I would have been without women, when I think of all the female friends who've had my back (man... I've been through some shit... the idea that women don't care about guys... I know many who've proven to me that's absolutely not true... over and over for decades)... I honestly feel sorry for any guy who doesn't have good women in his life, or has had some experience that embitters him so much he shuts out the entire sex. It seems to me like such a sad, stunted existence.

It's not that MGTOW are the worst of this New Misogyny Movement. Far from it. Most of the other ideologies under this misogyny umbrella are way worse.

I look at MGTOW more as "lost little boys' (regardless of age) whereas the rest of them... they're straight-up enemies... to be challenged, checked and ridiculed at every encounter.

My biggest problem with MGTOW is that it exists. So when someone feels like the Original Poster is feeling "should I just give up" unlike any other time in recent history, there's a growing group of guys to say "YES, YES YOU SHOULD. WE DID... COME JOIN US BROTHER ITS SAFE OVER HERE.

[Unit1]

@SteveSmith1985 Well, I have mixed experiences with women but for the most part I have positive experiences with women. Which leaves me wanting more and more. I see women as partners, not enemies.

[SteveSmith1985]

Well yea... exactly... the thought that there are guys who could see women (WOMEN for fuck sake!) as "the enemy'.

I mean... it's normal to want more and more experiences with women... to have them as a factor in your life... as something that's an integral part of this human experience. The idea of "us" vs "them" is just such a crazy way to see it.

[Unit1]

@SteveSmith1985 A gender wars of some sort. Not with me, that's for sure ;)

[Anonymous]

A lot of guys on here should give up on women. It is plainly obvious why some of you are single and have been single for a long time. It is no fault of women at all. The reason for your failure is staring right you in the mirror. If you haven't figured that out then sorry, you can't be helped.

[Unit1]

You can help by explaining in more detail. Do you think they look ugly? Is that what you're saying?

[MissDawn7961]

if men want to get married and have children to help take care of you in your old age then you had best not give up on women all together ! for females / girls / women are the only ones that God made to give you children ! however , if males have had trouble with females in your passed then take a break from dating women and decided for yourself what qualities you really want in your future girlfriend / wife ! thanks

[sean1234]

Give up, why no, but miss, won't you help me... I tripped.

Sorry, but at times, women seem soooooooooooo heartless. I dont want to give up, but they are just never around when I need them and were always heartless when they were

[sean1234]

I'm not saying they are all bad though, there are just as many bad guys.

[Ninjazzed]

Some men (or women) are in it for the chase and some are temporary (they won’t tell you this, of course) and some are permanent, but it’s up to you to figure out which is which.. my biggest mistake was trusting too easily.. they won’t always make their intentions clear but that’s the risk you take.

I’m single by choice and have been for nearly a year because quite frankly, I’m sick of getting fucked over by selfish shitheads and getting nothing in return.

[EABsTUQ]

I think it's different for everyone. I personally sometimes struggle with the thought. I know love would make me most happy in the world but it also gets in the way of the other thing I want most in the world. And if I have to choose I can't choose love. I just can't. Is it a mistake? Yeah but some things you just gotta do.

[Lynx122]

I think everyone should make that decision for themselves. I think it depends on where you are in your life if you have things under control etc. For me I think it has been the right choice atm but I'll think about changing it n the future.

[MillenniumBill]

There is a difference between quitting and not willing to play anymore. I consider myself as not willing to play anymore as the game is rigged to much in favor of women as is and getting worse for men all the time.

[slatyb]

Just sour grapes. Instead of figuring out how to attract a partner, it’s easier to blame the Fates and do nothing.

[Gatman34]

Yes men need to quit being desperate and focus on themselves. Have you noticed how it’s only men who make questions like this. Only men are This desperate it’s pathetic quit giving women attention

[MissDawn7961]

go ahead and give up on women for no woman in her right mind wants to date a boy like you anyway

[Texaskid1]

Women add stress to a man's life. It may be better to not worry about them for a while.

[Unit1]

Some of them reduce stress by a lot more 😀

[Unit1]

If she's the type to add a lot of stress in your life, then she's likely not the right one.

[Anonymous]

Don't give up on women, but don't let them take advantage, either. Watch the red flags and act accordingly. Shit-test them if you feel the need.

[Unit1]

Solid advice right there!

[moviedude714]

It feels impossible because the desire never goes away

[Dchrls78104]

It might be for me. I'm 41, a virgin, and only getting older.

[MissDawn7961]

your age and being a virgin is not going to stop you from getting older ! your going to get older even if you get married and lose your virginity or not ! DUH

[Exorcist_Rampage]

If you have no desires to procreate, then women aren't necessary.

[skeetskeetskeet]

Giving up on women is stupid... giving up on a particular one is fine...

[james2018dean]

They frustrate all men. Just like we frustrate all women.
Just chill. Itll pass.

[Slim57]

If you don't wanna get laid or have someone to do things with romantically sure