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Should the guy pay for the date because it cost women 3 times as much to look good for him? (Page 2)
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In my opinion in the 1st day you could do 50/50 ... see if works out then after that take turns! Makeup girl use all the time ( not all) but makeup could last for a year. In depending in the girl how much they buy. It should not matter!! I love makeup and I do makeup because it makes me happy not for the man 👨
Good point, coach. They invest both money and a good deal of time making themselves look pretty for us. Plus, I'm not a cheap skate. If I ask a woman out, it's because I'm interested in her. Paying for some food or whatever is the gentlemanly thing to do. I want her to feel cared for, special, appreciated.
Nope. I'm a firm. believer normally in who ever askes the other out pays. Or you take turns. No man is forcing a girl 2 spend a shit ton of money on how she looks for a date. She's choosing to do so herself
If she doesn't look good in her natural state, and yet she wants to be appealing to men and go on dates with them, then that's on her to cough up the money and invest in herself in order to accomplish her goal.
Her goal is to look good for you and that cost money?
False. It has nothing to do with me. We're not in a relationship.
False? LMAO you are too funny with your comments. A woman doesn't have to be in a relationship to look for a date with someone new.
@coachTanthony You're the funny one. Lmao. Why would she be looking for a date with someone new if she was in a relationship? If that's the case, she should just break up.
(But I don't see how your comment is related to what I said.)
Sorry man I am confused on what you are saying. None the less... thanks for your comments.
I'm saying if we're not in a relationship, then her personal care budget is not my problem. She's completely autonomous, as am I. Do I ask for her to pay for my soap and toothpaste?
Dude.. ok ok.. dont' get angry on me here. I am just saying... women will spend a ton to look good for a man they like. If you CANNOT appreciate that then that is okay. No worries.
Lol. I wasn't angry.
As to whether or not I appreciate it, I'm not sure how that's relevant to your original post. But I'm sure I will give her a compliment. (Unless, of course, she doesn't want me to.)
Well when you compliment her on how she looks... just know that cost money which of course I know I know is not your problem LMAO
You're right. Lol
Are kidding. Women dress up to go everywhere no matter the occasion. Men do the same. We don't come looking like trash. We have expensive car fees, parking fees, paying for dinner, paying for movie. Dining n wining if it's at home stay. He still orders in via pizza or Uber eat. Or gets grocery if his chef. And then end of the night lady doesn't put it out. He feels like what was all that effort for. My expensive cologne. To my expensive Italian made shoes. C'mon. Women aren't the only one floored by money when it comes to dating. If she pays for her half n hosts at her place n gives him pussy then we equal.
I never asked nor expected you to spend a fortune on clothes and makeup because I don't care about either. In fact, I prefer a natural woman over a woman full of make up. YOU decided to spend money on that, not me so it's YOUR problem.
Also, what about guys spending money on gym memberships, proteins, accessories to trim their beard and all of that? And why not pay the time spent exercising too? I find this reasoning to be absurd. It's probably an excuse used by entitled people because they don't want to be exposed as entitled.
*IGNORING THE QUESTION* AS you already got more than 50 replied.
Man! How you got the influencer sign, You are humorous too. Can I find a female version of yours? , Do you have any siblings? 😂
LOL you want to become an Influencer? Don't do it man... lol
Yes, Influencer is the most respectable title here!, And I see how they gave you influencer 😂
I was here before they started the influencer badge crap. They used to have a badge called EXPERT and there may have been maybe 10 of us on the site until they decided to get rid of it and slap INFLUCNER badges on anyone with a pulse. But get a high MHO post a lot of great comments and they will be in touch lol
Thanks Man!, which xper level is guru. I mean I am at 4 and will get to level 5 soon. How do you got the guru xper level! I, Impressed by the fact you have 27.2k follower and no following 😂. You got 27k people to follow you to your funeral. Lol !
I don't know what level I am at.. I dont' keep track of anything on here. I mean I have almost 14k followers on Instagram and 10k on twitter... People follow me mostly for free advice lol Just keep plugging away. Pick a topic that you like and stick to it. Influencer badges are assigned to people who rock certain topics.
Thanks Dude !
Whomever clearly has the most wealth should pay. Otherwise you take turns.
She spends what SHE decides - on herself. It's not HIS responsibility. Yet, anyway. :)
Well if the woman spends her fortune on make up and clothes that only leaves us being the most wealthy lol
High-maintenance girls are a bore.
No. Those were her decisions. She didn't have to buy those products.
if he invites her on the date, he should pay for it. If he invites her out to a cheap restaurant then he pays for that. If he invites her out to an upscale one he pays for that. It's his choice where to go and what to pay for, just like it's her choice what to use for makeup
If she uses no makeup where you taking her? LOL
And why wouldn't you still take her out? because she has no makeup so that means she's "ugly"?
Some men don't require or ask their women to wear very much makeup. They are very happy with small amounts.
And no, I don't require a girl to have makeup on to be considered pretty. Nor do I require her to have makeup on to take her out. That's just shallow
@cherry420 Some women look great without make up.
LOL, I’d rather that she didn’t put on any makeup or wear something fancy.
Ha ha ha of course not
😂. Don't get me wrong some ladies put in that effort. I wouldn't say it is the average especially with the entitled feminism thing going on. Plus I don't buy into men make more than women. Generally, they make the same if not more. Maybe 70 years ago it was an issue. Not in 2020. You might find situations where the man is working and the lady stays home. That's where the stats come from. In most households, both partners are working. There is the no financial gap. Except in types of professions. If I like the lady I gender buy. It depends on the situation.
*generally
I generally like to look nice/presentable. I spent money on myself, not much on makeups. Nice clothes, shoes, nails done.
One doesn't have anything to do with the other.
If I take my time out to go on a date, (not how much I spent on myself). I would feel appreciated that my date at lease pay on the first date and I offer to pay for the tip or the next activity. It's team effort. I have no problem paying, but I have had better experience with men who were true gentlemen.
@midnightmoon05
The guy could say he took time out to go on a date with you. Do not over do it by picking up the tip. There is no guarantee there with be a next activity.
@MysteriousDarkness I have had better experience with men who appreciated me and those were the better relationships - to marriage. (One marriage)
The ones who splitted the bill was not as pleasant and only one date.
First off, it doesn't cost that much. Second he has to pay far more into her then she has to into looking good, that is including the fact that he will be paying for almost everything for the entire duration of her relationship with him, and he also has to work harder to produce that money which means more of his time and by extension his life is gone in order to provide for her. In addition one could then argue that she is required to have sex with him since he is paying and his time is precious (because its how he makes his money is with his time so she is costing him yet again).
If anything this is an argument for women having to put out and to get paid less then men since men are forced to pay for everything else for these women as they are effectively using the man like a welfare check.
Might be the worse comment I have seen on GAG. Thanks though for sharing,
Well I'm sorry you don't like it but this is a fact. You don't get to demand men obey rules that you don't. You do not get to call for equality then make every excuse possible for why that "equality" doesn't apply to you. Its called principles, have them or don't bitch when some one else doesn't play your games.
Sorry there are no facts in that comment. And It appears 3 other people agree.
I apologize. 4 people don't agree.
Their are facts, you just don't like them because I'm not jerking you off and telling you your right (the only thing that matters to you (which is rather sad and pathetic on your part (and that isn't even an insult, I really do feel sad that the only thing that matters to you is validation from others. Its no way to live.). As for others disagreeing, yes that happens quite a lot when you tell the truth, you make a lot of enemies by doing that, "he who fires the arrow of truth best have one foot in the stirrup"(Turkish proverb). Its also meaningless as reality and truth are not something that exists based upon popular opinion, it exists regardless of your feelings about it.
Still bitter because I called you out before (you never answered the questions either)?
The old I get downvoted because it's true routine. Bitter? I love people like you... you dumb asses keep me employed.
How am I bitter? I just stated a fact. Also repeating what I stated and providing literally no argument against it isn't an argument. Thats a marketing ploy, address and dismiss I believe they call it, its when they address an issue and then in then immediatley move past it before people realize they never actually argued against the point. Doesn't work nearly as well in written form as people have time to process that you never addressed the issue before moving on. So I take it you were not man enough to answer my original questions and thats why you not only didn't respond but then got real angry when I responded to this? I mean its your right, but your never going to develop and grow if you don't actually ask questions about yourself and your world view. Your also not going to be particularly happy holding a grudge against some one for daring to disagree with you (sounds exhausting honestly).
I am pretty sure I am all grown up but thanks for your concern.
Grow and develop was not a phrase refering to biological growth and development. No wonder why your stunted, you've never bothered to put forth the effort to develop yourself mentally because you thought it would do that on its own. Kind of like assuming that your going to develop muscles by sitting around doing nothing, its clearly incorrect yet so many do it anyway.
Have you considered talking to a psychiatrist about your issues? I mean the anger and the need for validation (not an insult, you have just stated mulitple things that suggest you feel very empty inside and its others validation of you that keeps you going.)? Also why have you not answered my questions? Is it because they hit to close to home?
Dude... look at the energy of you and me on this post and the other post. This in the dating world is what we call... YOU care more then I do. In the end I really don't care.
I don't care, I'm merely pointing out that you don't get to ask for equality then demand to be treated unequally. I'm also pointing out that her wearing makeup once or twice doesn't equal the amount of money that a man will spend on a woman over the course of their many dates. this is all pretty reasonable stuff and your the one who is angry (probably from our last discussion).
As for the "energy" , if your refering to how much I have typed, well I do this for every question regardless of how much or how little it particularly affects me (I mean this doesn't affect me at all to be honest). I have pointed that out several times already but you seem to ignore it (probably because it doesn't feed into your narrative that you have created in order to justify your beliefs about the world and yourself).
So if you don't care, why ask the question? Why make it a point to try and start an argument with me? I don't personally care because obviously if I had something better to do I would be doing that instead of being on this site (its a time waster, keeps me engaged a bit when I don't have much else going on (or am listening to lectures (I find multitasking is more productive)).
Women must love you.. so chatty. Anyway got to go. Thanks for the comments. Next time though don't be so sexist against women as if the MAN is going to go in debt if he has a woman in his life. Most women make more then men these days and could take us or leave us. This isn't 1950 braugh. Have a good night.
They do actually, probably because I don't blow smoke up their ass in order to get something from them.
As per usual you are sexist and then project it on to me, strange how that works. Nothing in my statement was particularly sexist. I stated we are equal or we are not and you must pick one and your response is to claim that expecting women to act like adults and either be equal or not is some how sexist? I wonder what you consider a non sexist act to be? Never said this was the 1950s, never suggested that. If I did I would have argued that a man should always pay no matter what the circumstances since that was the view in the 1950s.(its like you don't even know what reality is. I would have thought that after providing you all that historical data you would have learned something yet here we are.).
I always expect to pay for what we do on a date. Even, if she was the one who asked me out, I would at least insist on splitting the cost or even "Ok, you can pay for the movie and I'll take care of dinner." The thought of how much it cost her to look good for me... actually never crossed my mind. Good point and something I will consider from now on.
What rubbish is this?😂
Firstly a woman should get dressed up the way she wants t for HERSELF, not for the man. So, no I don’t think the man HAS to pay. I prefer if whoever asked for the date should pay but if he asked for the date but didn’t have enough money to pay for me or for the both of us then I’d pay for me or for the both of us. I’m baffled by this ridiculous question and why one would even have to ask this or let alone think this.
Dates can be casual affairs, especially first dates. What is the point of dressing up when that date could be the one and only? Go for coffee. No need for makeup or anything fancy. Go for a walk: again, no need for war paint or heels. I'd wait to pull out the stops. 10th date! Have a fancy dinner. When you see it's going well, both of you do it up in your Sunday best and head somewhere special.
I partly agree but it's just good manners to pay for her date if you can afford it. But I'll give a girl kudos and she will earn points if she insists that we just pay our separate ways mainly because it shows me she is not there for a free meal and she wants to be a fair and reasonable person. That she wants to share and compremise. Rather than want or desire to be treated. Hopefully that makes sense
What if I HATE all that fake BULLSHIT, make-up and clothes, and labels, and NEVER date the ones that do that?
I don't EXPECT her to do anything special, and prefer her just being HER, no lies, not make-up, no crap!
I have no problem paying, but when does the EQUALITY thing come into the picture?
Equal, as long as it benefits women? Is it a conditional thing, or a REAL THING!!!
With the women I CHOOSE, she likes it being a REAL THING, and I do too!!
Well I'm not sure about the cost of looking good. I spend a quite a bit myself on French and Italian clothes and Creed and Tom Ford fragrances aren't sold yet in Walmart. I'd dare say many of us guys spend as much or more than the women do looking good. I like the way things work here in Latin America. The person doing the inviting pays the check usually.
Girls being beautiful for herselves.
Personally I feel like I would owe him another date where I have to pay, so let's just share the bill. 😂
Yes
This
Splitting makes things feel more comfortable so that you can part without feeling like you owe, whether or not you see them again.