
Does using makeup, make you a fraud?


When girls can't allow anyone to see them without makeup on (including their husbands), then it is fraud. The purpose of makeup (not stage makeup) is to draw attention to your positive attributes and minimize the negative ones. Ideally, we want to see the person, not the makeup. When we see the makeup, it appears as a mask they are hiding behind. It doesn't take much makeup to enhance, but going overboard is presenting a bait and switch. You'd be implying you're one thing, but not who you actually are. Be true to yourself, and let people who are drawn to that image appreciate you as you are. For every type of person, there are people who are drawn to that type. Let people see the real you rather than pretending you're something else (which is the definition of fraud).
What I've always found myself drawn to isn't what society promotes as the ideal. Therefore, it has been very challenging to find someone I'm drawn to who feels there is value in what she brings to a relationship. This leads her to have low self-esteem, and it is miserable to be in a relationship with someone who has low self-esteem. They constantly put themselves down and minimize whatever compliments you give.
I like your opinion. I agree with it. I like to enhance what is already there. Although another aspect. A reason I ever started wearing make up because the only the I worse until I was probably 25/26 was mascara. But then just my life situation because a single mom etc I found that doing my make up made ME feel good. Not that I was wearing it to be more appealing to a man š
@ANR29 There's nothing wrong with decorating your body because you like the look. Your perspective of not doing it to make yourself more appealing to a man is healthy.
I part my hair on the left, as I am right-handed, and it is convenient. If I were left-handed, I'd probably part it on the right. I do it because it works for me, not because I believe my choice will make me more attractive to someone else.
It's great that you've observed yourself enough to discover the value you have to enhance. Getting to know yourself before you offer yourself to others will always give you better results. I'm impressed.
Getting a haircut before a date is a fraud.
Cleaning your car before a date is a fraud.
Taking her to a nicer restaurant that you would normally patronize is a fraud.
Controlling your temper and not cursing the driver who cuts in front of you when your date is with you is fraud.
Acting nicer to your parents when you introduce her to them is fraud.
Sure, it's all fraud.
I hope she sees this bro
Makeup is simply to hide behind something that is more pleasant without any plans nor possibility of permanence. Those behaviors can be made solid but makeup NEVER can. So I'd say MakeUp is the biggest fraud in TODAYS world. Specially how women use it. Men are perfectly fine with their nature faces until makeup ruins it overtime. It is more for the woman than is it for their men.
Reality and human nature.
God I hate those types of girls who wash with soap to fake a nicer body smell.
Your hair is still looks like your hair when you cut it.
Your car was clean by default also.
Those first 2 statements are basic hygiene and not comparable to make up.
However, dying your hair or chemically treating your hair and using fake stuff to make your car look fancy is fraudulence.
@Aiko_E_Lara @spade07 The point of my post is that we all do things to make a most favorable first impression and you can view all of them as fraud, if you wish. However, you could also view those things as just signs that someone cares enough to desire to make a good first impression.
When you see a woman wearing makeup, are you fooled? Do you think that is her natural face, unadorned? When you first see her without makeup, are you shocked that she looks a bit different, less dramatic? Doesn't fraud involve deception?
I mean sure we all have something to hide weather if it's generally a big deal or not or depends on how anyone makes a deal out of it but the asker is talking about makeups here not all those things you like to compare. And sure I can be fooled if she look nothing like how she originally looked with her make up on. But if im not dating her, im not making a big deal out of it but I do would understand the person she'd date.
And yeah those fraudulence you're sure what everyone else do also because like what I said, those are basic hygiene.
Acting nice, yes that's an understandable fraudulence just like being a fake friend unless you are genuinely nice also like taking her to a restaurant to make her happy is what makes you happy.
I think to a degree it does. If you're using makeup just for yourself and trying to feel good about yourself then I don't think it does. However, if you're one of those girl that like to get all the attention on instagram then yes it most likely means it does. Like why else would you want to put all that makeup on just to show off on instgram. It mostl likely means that you're doing it for attention. LIke you want to prove to people how pretty you are when most likley its fake. All the plastic surgeries, the filters, and makeup is just supposed to make fake girls feel good about themselves to try to look cool in front of people and to be honest its fake. Like dont get me wrong if you want to wear makeup because you want to feel good about yourself and you genuinely like it then no you're not fake and there's nothing wrong. However if you're an attention-seeker and someone that tries to act all that on social media (kinda like those people that buy hella guccia but dont make a lot of money) then you're fake. you're not naturally pretty and you just boys to be impressed by you when you're not even being real
I understand why some would say yes. I do wear makeup, and it DOES cover a lot of my imperfections and it does a really good job enhancing my features. It really changes how I look, I cannot deny that. So it may make others think that people who wear makeup are "frauds", but I myself don't wear them to deceive other people, I simply feel a lot more confident in myself when I wear them. I have very low self-esteem and wearing makeup helps a lot. Even the process of doing them gives me joy, and seeing the "finish look" and liking how they turn out makes me feel good about myself. I have a lot of issues lmao and im one of those pessimistic people who hate themselves, but makeup makes me forget all those for a while. When my boyfriend compliments me that I look pretty, I always hit him with the "its the makeup" answer, and he still compliments me when im not wearing any, and although i know he be lying lol, it feels kinda nice. So ps, guys your words mean a lot to your girls, especially when she's feeling a little insecure every now and then.
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No not nesiseraly it's not a fraud if u want to look good for the boyfriend it's not a fraud wearing it everyday for a walk or to a shop everydaybmake up Is afraid I would say the only time I wear makeup is on a special occasion apart from tht I can show my real me nd face I dont need to hide my face to look good and even a hour or two at my boyfriends I take it off so I get done up with makeup to go to my boyfriend and sometimes jst go up casual without makeup when I do it's off in the nxt hour makeup everyday is very bad for skin that's why I don't wear it every say I jst show my real face nd if people that dont like it fk them nd awl give them a fkn face they will need to keep makeup on 24 seven when am done wae them the cheeky cunts so iam a show my real face person makeup hardly now and then to see my boyfriend thts when I wear it
Let's say I give you 2 shoe boxes. They are both identical in every way, dimensions and all except for the fact that one of them is embellished neatly in shiny red Christmas-themed wrapping paper with a lovely green bow tying it all together. If I then ask you which looks nicer, you're likely going to tell me that the wrapped up box looks better, and yet; you know they are one and the same box. You can tell by it's weight, it's dimensions, the way it sounds when you tap on it's side.
The point I'm trying to get across is even though their face may have makeup on it to hide some of the small little faults within their facial area, they're still recognisable physically. Makeup doesn't change their facial dimensions or nose shape, much like how wrapping up a box in wrapping paper doesn't change it's size or shape. Ergo, someone using makeup to enhance their appearance doesn't make them a 'fraud'.
I'll be honest. I'm not very big into makeup. I put on a little eyeshadow, lip gloss and concealer to cover acne scars and that's it. It amazes me how someone can literally rework their entire facial structure by contouring and highlighting and everything.
Also, guys a lot of you are really stupid when it comes to makeup. I constantly hear men saying they want their woman to look "natural" but they always chase after the women who are the polar opposite of that.



dude i freakin agree i hate guys who are like that. Dont even get me started on the guys who think girls who have had plastic surgery are natural lol!
Because you are talking about two different men.
You know i can also say, a lot of women actually complain about why they have to wear makeup because of unrealistic beauty standards but they contradict themselves by saying they do it for themselves. https://youtu.be/EyHcaayAO8M am i talking about the same women?
@Aiko_E_Lara As you can see we did say "GUYS WHO ARE LIKE THAT" meaning if a guy isn't like that we do not hate them. So dont take it the wrong way when nobody said all men.
@Aiko_E_Lara you're making it seem that we said "Every man on this planet". no we said "guys WHO ARE LIKE THAT"
@Aiko_E_Lara You need to read our words carefully before you start assuming what other people said
@littlelady1234 And this is also why i'm talking about a lot of women, i'm not talking about women. But i'm not responding to you i'm talking about the original comment saying a lot of guys. Perhaps you read what the original comment is talking about and you also read mine properly otherwise you're just demonstrating double standards
And by the way, just personally, of the picture your giving, that last girl without makeup beats all of them.
@Aiko_E_Lara NO you said that you could reverse what I said and apply it back to me inferring that I had said something against men in general
Then you're just not reading anything what i said. I clearly said a lot of those women just like the original comment saying a lot of those men. I can also say women like those. So if the original comment can say a lot of men, why can't i say a lot of women? Your double standards is showing again
@Aiko_E_Lara Yeah i get what you're saying but I had said "guys who are like that on my post" you then said "because these are two different men" like I had already mentioned that. Also Im not sexist i know there are women out there who are like that? When did I say "only men". Also I dont think its wrong for someone to say "men who are like this" or "women who are like that" because were not saying everyone in that gender is. I said only a portion of men are like that so how could that be sexist when sexism applies to the whole group?
@Aiko_E_Lara and I know you can also say "women who are like that" when did me or that other girl say you couldn't? You're falsly assuming and that's not right because unless you heard someone say "All Men" or "All Women" you can't say theyre sexist. Why? Because sexism refers to the whole group meaning my judgement was based on something that had nothing to do with sex otherwise I would have mentioned "ALL MEN"
@Aiko_E_Lara Sexism is when you talk about the entire sex. I just mentioned a small group
@Aiko_E_Lara By the way I did not even post those pictures. Another girl did. and to YOU the last girl without makeup looks prettier than the others ones maybe not to me and not toeveryone. You should really stop making it seem that your opinion is a fact
@littlelady1234 Except I wasn't even talking to you from the start. Just until you got triggered by it. But if it's sexist, you saw the original comment talking about "lots of guys" meaning guys in general. Why aren't you talking about her being sexist? I guess it's only sexist if I do it I see. But still no one is talking to you. I never mentioned your name so are you just looking for excuses to call me a sexist?
@Aiko_E_Lara You werent talking to me? Thats why you replied to my comment? Also you were the one who got triggered from the start. Nobody asked you to chimed in it was just us two girls having a conversation until you god mad and started calling us sexist. You also contradicted yourself. FIrst you said that you knew you werent talking about men then you're over here saying were generalizing. IF WE WERE GENERALIZING WE WOULD HAVE SAID ALL MEN. And no she's not sexist for the hundreth time cause she never said all men. You seem to not understand the difference between talking about a subgroup of men vs the entire group. And also quit putting words in our mouth. I quite frankly discussed to you it would not be sexist if you used the example "why do SOME women complain". I specifically told you about it in the comments. If you want you can look for it again. Also, NO ONE IS TALKING TO ME? Yet you replied to all my conversations specially "@ing" me. And yes you did mention my name several times. You must have deleted your comments here thats why you can't see the whole conversation but I clearly still have the notifications incase you want that. And if you were that smart with reading would I posted you would CLEARLY see I did not call you a sexist. Instead I was actually against it and i told you SPECIFICALLY "no it would not make you sexist if you used that as an example". Seems like you can't keep up with what you're saying. Have a nice day
@littlelady1234 Is that even your comment to begin with? I thought this is @Purple_Rose ās comment. So yeah im replying to her comment not you. Now you wanna ask me why im using ā@ā on you? For the same reason youāre using ā@ā on me first on this particular thread. In a nutshell, basically no one really was talking to you from the start. I was talking to purple rose. If no one asked me to chimed in, then she wouldnāt post an opinion in this post. No one also asked her to post an opinion, no one also told you to talk to her but why are you even here? See how hypocritical you are? After all this is an open discussion no one should be complaining on whoās talking to who. And can you tell me how itās possible to delete my own comment here? You canāt even do that. Can you? G@G donāt have that feature so blow me. About that generalization part, was I even also generalizing? So there you go, if I was generalizing, I wouldāve said āall womenā Can you point out where I said that? I mean sure you were calling me a sexist just because I was also giving my opinion which you thought im generalizing, so im also calling her āgeneralizingā just to argue at your level. But really you still canāt point out the part where exactly was I being triggered, generalizing, being sexist but all you wanna do is call anyone sexist. So many provocative claims and you call yourself the smart one by bringing up āAnd if you were that smartā bs. No one is saying im smarter than you. Untill you proved youāre just being moron at this point.
@littlelady1234 Perhaps you're getting so confident with your mouth because you thought you can delete your own comment here? Unfortunately for you, that's not how G@G works. We can see you.
@littlelady1234 Oh by the way, this is comming from you "you're making it seem that we said "Every man on this planet". no we said "guys WHO ARE LIKE THAT"
What do you mean "we" You mean you? Who i wasn't even talking to form the start?
How about if I say, you're making it seem that I said "Every woman on this planet". Isn't it fun getting your own logic backfired? I said "lots of women" i never said "all women"
Why can't you take your own logic?
@Aiko_E_Lara lol what comment? I haven't deleted anything!
@Aiko_E_Lara lmao obviously by "we" i meant the girl and i. AND FOR THE LAST TIME I ALREADY ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. I DO NOT CARE IF YOU REFER TO "SOME WOMEN" stop lying about be and putting words in my mouth.
@Aiko_E_Lara You really have no idea what I just posted. You missed all my points it is honestly a waster of time arguing with you. I really dont care if you agree with me or not. I proved my point you just can't handle it. Goodbye!
@Aiko_E_Lara lmao please tell me the part-any part for that matter where I supposedly called you sexist. I'll wait youve been saying that I've been calling you that when I NEVER HAVE. BUt i can point out many times where i specifically state that the example you used to counteract mine and rose's opinion is not sexist. I said it wasn't sexist the same way our beliefs aren't sexist. And i can point out times where youve refered to one of our posts as sexist so that sounds contradicting of you
I never said you have deleted anything. I said you're probably thought you can delete comments here which is why you are so confident with your big mouth but that's not how G@G works. This is not youtube or twitter where you can just delete your comment also coming from someone accusing me of "probably deleting my comment talking to you" why you are claiming "we" the girl you are talking to wasn't even talking back to your wasn't even replying. So you're busy assuming she just agreed with you. So it's not "we" but it's just you who is claiming that one unless the original comment owner responded to you. I don't care if this is the last time. I've also answered you and debunk your provocative claims "for the last time" and still you're doing it again. I definitely get your point just putting words on people's mouths is that is. Your point is definitely just assuming people interpreting anyone differently. But you explained? Well sure you did which is what i also debunk putting words on people's mouth. You can leave anytime if you feel so ashamed, dismissing argument by saying you "don't get anything" if i'm such a waste of time the nobody is forcing you to argue with me in the first place or to respond to me not even responding to your reply. Also because your double standard is showing which still stands by the way and something that you just dodged. If you cannot take the heat, you can just get out of the kitchen.
How you assume that i'm talking about women in general, also how you talked about how talking about genders in general is sexism implies you're calling me a sexist without even saying it. You only explained that "not all men" is what you're talking about. Of course you're not talking about all men and however i am not talking about all women. That's also my response to that because i know that's a sexist thing to say like how you assume what i did. It doesn't take a genius really.
Some may consider "penis lengthening pills" to be nothing more than a fraud. And quite honestly, I'm inclined to agree. First off, they only add TWO-THREE inches to your P-shizzel and not the five that's promised on both the front and the back of the box. So yes, my tall Japanese-Vietnamese girlfriend's 6 inch tongue is STILL bigger than my 5 inch honey noodle. Also, the effects last for only several hours and not the fourteen as promised on the back of the box.
But I can rant about my laughably tiny Johnson later. No. Wearing MU (not "Marvel Universe", nerds) isn't a fraud. I apply beauty cream to my face and conditioner to my hair. Are those frauds? I would say "no". Besides, I'm going to wind up learning what you truly look like anyway soooo... yuppers.
In a species that's SO innately DEEPLY visually motivated,
why would ANYONE not enhance other's perceptions of their 'desirability' in the social hierarchy...
there's hypocritical 'Pollyanna' romanticism and then, there's 'real world' pragmatism.
Why do you think there are such stringent societal prohibitions about dressing and grooming pre-teen female children as seductive adults for "beauty contests"? And, those perceived as 'baby-faced'?
Youth & beauty are naturally 'perishable' commodities.
Look up the movie stills from Jodie Foster's "Pretty Baby"---
I'm a girl who wears makeup, and I'm being honest I would not be attractive without makeup. I'd not be asked out by boys if I don't wear makeup. I'm not ugly nor am I average looking, I'm just not confident. So I wear makeup to gain confidence.
I've seen many average or below average girls wearing makeup and they totally turn into divas. But beautiful women also wear makeup.
These days I have seen videos of women sticking tapes under their jaws to shape it, placing some sort of artificial nose, wearing so much eyeshadow to make the eyes look bigger, drawing lips to make it look big etc. These are all frauds in my opinion.
I don't do any of these, I just enhance my features with makeup, so it's upon others to decide if I'm a fraud.
According to your question, if using makeup qualifies someone as a fraud, I'm a fraud.
If i showed up dressed as Ironman would you believe i was him. Or would you see through that? I mean it does make you a fraud but i would like to think a guy sees through it. Especially if she's wearing a ton of makeup. One eay to find out. Dial back the makeup with each date and see if his interest starts waning. The way i see it the woman who uses a lot of makeup might only end up tricking herself. I mean they guy might go out with her, maybe they sleep together, but the mixture of him getting a look at that face without makeup plus the baby batter no longer being in his brain might make him run for his life.
Makeup is supposed to enhance your features, it's not supposed to be a mask. So, yes it can be deceiving. I hate foundation because it's cakey and makes me look different. I prefer a natural look anyways. I think makeup should be worn occasionally or for fun, but not everyday. When I was younger, light makeup would be worn everyday, but now, heavy makeup is worn everyday, weird... Instagram has definitely made it normal.
I think makeup should enhance the face but not completely change it. I put on a bit of makeup (no eyeshadow, no eyeliner, no bronzer). Just a light coverage foundation with a subtle amount of blush, maybe draw in my eyebrows a teeny bit (not stamped on/thick brows). I used to be all for that full-faced makeup look but now not so much. I've learned to embrace my face the way it is and not be so focused on every imperfection on my face.
No, I use makeup sometimes but I donāt look or use it to look drastically different unless Iām doing specialfx. I donāt think anyone wants me to show up to a date looking like a zombie gushing blood, a skeleton, or some terrifying creature outside of Halloween.
@Spade07
Lol I know. I have two cousins like that. The crazy thing is is that theyāre really gorgeous but will spend almost good half hour putting on ātheir face.ā
I mean, there's a limit.
If a girl wants a guy and she managed to get one by wearing makeup, there's no doubt the guy fell for her looks and not her personality.
What's a relationship when one partner is using the other for... Whatever they want to use them for?
Using this to catfish, yeah it'll make you fraud.
As a guy, it can be disturbing waking up to a women with out her makeup. When I was young it happened to me and I left ! Not one of my prouder moments. I have an iPhone app called MakeApp. that lets you take a womenās picture and it removes her makeup. Itās truly amazing how some women look without it.
Is it fake? Iām not sure, because I love how women look with it. So Iām just as guilty. I get past it now. Many women Iāve been with for years at a time, just looked like a sleepy version of themselves. Guess Iāve been pretty lucky.
Not at all. Does wearing a bra make you a fraud? Does hair color or hair style or nail polish make you a fraud? Does waxing or shaving make you a fraud?
Every women, aside from teen agers, looks best with a bit of makeup. I don't care for heavy makeup. But the "no makeup" makeup look rocks. It sets women apart from men. It makes them glow. And I love feminine women.
Make up is almost all men n women way of making themselves look good, just like when u buy an outfit. If u liked her when she had makeup n when she takes it off u run away, it seems like u both r fraud she for her makeup n you for ur feelings. U deserve each other hoho.
I wear just light amount of make up. But my face is clear complexion anyways so really just evens my tone. A little blush mascara and odd time add lipstick. And that isnāt hiding my lips itās showing them off where as theyāre not as noticeable on women as much nude as compared with it. Or I wear a shade next to my own lip color. So only thing Iām really hiding totally is my blond eye lashes 🤣
Eh yeah kinda. Its more that if I see a women wearing makeup it basically just shows me that they prefer to waste time and money on their insecurities instead of just living their life. So that doesn't really make them fake just makes them stupid.
I don't think it does, makeup is a form of self-expression and it gives women that confidence guys find attractive (don't do it for guys do it for you) I used to but on heavy amounts of makeup and I found it make me less attractive, but once I started experimenting with my features and skincare I found a perfect balance that complimented my features. Whatever gives a woman confidence isn't a fraud.
The attention is given to the mask but the person behind thinks the attention is being given to them because they aren't aware of the mask anymore, it's become a part of themselves. This attention helps boost ego and increase self esteem for some period of time.
Makeup
Dating apps
Social media
These all are used for the same purpose - attention.
No , and a man is kind of an idiot if he expects you to look the same without it. I say just know how to do make up for each occasion. Minimal for everyday , all the way when going out , and for goodness sake donāt cake it on.
He doesn't expect you to look the same but the subconscious instinctual part of him doesn't know that so finds it attractive regardless.
If our intellectual conscious had any input on what we find attractive we wouldn't find the vast majority of women attractive at all and we'd all be bisexual.
It because we don't date women for their makeup but we date them for their face. That is a part of our standards but the thing is how do we exactly know what see exactly looks like without it? Sure she can at least show us a picture of her without makeup and filter before she can waste our time. That's the least she can do. But of course that would be considered "rude" https://youtu.be/EyHcaayAO8M i'm not talking about all women. It's really hard to predict what kind of women she is
You know there is obviously something wrong if they always cake on makeup. Besides you can easily tell , makeup creates texture on the skin , especially on older women. The bottom picture of Anita Sarkesian looks really photoshopped. And itās scary because she doesnāt even have eye lashes and they exaggerated the under eye circles, and she probably isnāt that pale
Then you're talking about those guys who cake on makeup. They're also the kind of guys hope doesn't want you to remove your makeup. You just really means that some guys doesn't like the real look of your face but they date you for your makeup. However not all guys are like those but there are guys who go by the roots. If how she originally look doesn't appeal to us, you can't really blame us when we get used those girls seeing makeup all the time. It's either we don't prefer them or just hate them for looking really different like being a fraud. That is almost like lying because you're having a plastic surgery or because you're a transgender.
Also plastic surgery is just like the permanent version of it that doesn't really change your offspring. But after all i am talking about those women who use makeup to look exactly different. If you think we are idiots because we expect she looks the same without it then what if i told you, there are women who use very little makeup just to make a little enhancement that still makes her look the same. They're women only use contours to make their face look smooth and not using eye liners and eyebrows that would definitely make her features look different. So yes we expect women to look the same with it. Afterall you use it to enhance your looks not mask your face
In my opinion when society is filled with such shallow men. You can't possibly ever get a guy unless you look hot. Its a lesson for shallow people in our society. I have no problem wearing a full face caked with makeup on a first date.
Not a fraud. Yes it does change the way a person looks but if it isnāt crazy extensive like with tapes and those techniques that change the face shape, then it is simply an accentuation of what is already there
Could not vote because we need a little makeup versus hiding Like the woman is doing in the original picture. If you look way different without makeup you are being a fraud. That is the true meaning of coyote ugly. Women that look so different in the morning with no make up. If you need that much makeup you have no personality.
If you use makeup, you trick people, they see you are beautiful, but in fact, men don't like girls who use makeup. We like natual, natural beauty is way more beautiful than using makeup to hide your true beauty.
Women use makeup to feel more beautiful, but the reality is that your beauty is fake. Your true beauty is way more beautiful. There's no reason to feel insecure about your body, you perfect the way you are.
You may not wear makeup to fool guys but to simply make yourself feel better about yourself. More secure.
This is exactly why I think it is fraud. You're just using the fraud against yourself. Which is even more sad. Read the book, "psycho-cybernetics by maxwell maltz". It will help you.
If you want to get "technical" about it, then yes, any amount of make up is designed to conceal, enhance or create a deception. But practically speaking, that would depend on how much make-up, in my opinion.
@Coulis What do YOU think?
Makeup is such a huge spectrum. If you use no concealer so blemishes and differences un skin tine are present but have some li er and lipstick... thisnis enhancing. Drag queen level makeup is meant to cinceal to an extent where the male features are hidden or greatly diminished. You can make cheekbones using contour. Chanege the width of your nose and the size of yournlips with makeup. You can conceal vitiligo.
I don't think it's out and out fraud since there isn't really a transaction taking place. In cultures where there is arranged marriage it could be if she never let you see her without a pound of makeup and she looks like a dog's balls without it. Yeah that's fraud.
@Coulis LOL. A dog's balls... I like that. Yes, that would definitely be fraud if she looked like that without make up. I've always preferred to meet a girl someplace she was less likely to be heavily made up, like at the beach or a gym. I want to see what she's like without "product" !
Anything other than showing up in your morning unwashed face and uncombed hair with the natural smell of your overnight stale sweat is a fraud at this point.
If you are looking completely different, yeah you are scammer. But if you can look good with or without make up, Nope
No, I wouldn't say it does, unless the woman used makeup in a certain way that isn't her every day ordinary way, made herself look very different to what she looks like normally, then uploaded that picture to a social network or dating site. Same as using enhancing filters - that's indeed fraudulent.
I personally don't think so because at the end of the day, you can remove it lol it isn't permanent. So eventually you will see that person without makeup at some point.
Guys who think it's a fraud or think women are "lying" because our face doesn't look like that are stupid. Like no shit Chad my eyelids aren't naturally purple. Make up just enhances natural beauty.
I wouldāve chosen a middle ground opinion if there were one, because it depends on the extent of makeup applied.
for the girls that become almost unrecognisable after applying a crap-tonne of makeup (it definitely exists), Iād say yes, it could āmake you a fraudā
for the girls that only apply a light amount of makeup, Iād say no, not at all, since they usually maintain a more natural look thatās true to their appearance
If that is what you intended to do then absolutely. But anyone can just make lies that they do it for themselves as an excuse to hide their insecurities saying they don't do it for anyone and of course i'm not talking about or makeup users. They can lie to anyone but they can't lie to themselves.
Here's an example for that, imagine if you have never tasted real strawberry before and all you have tasted are strawberry candies, strawberry jam, strawberry milk shakes and other strawberry flavored stuff. But then it turned out you don't like how strawberry originally taste so you prefer those artificial stuff which is basically unhealthy and unnecessary for our health. When it could have been vice versa like how we originally it strawberries not getting used to the sweetened and fattening ones that can spoil us. Of course there are always people who doesn't like how anyone originally look but can you force them? So ok if you like to do it for yourself, then don't complain if anyone doesn't prefer you without makeup. Simple. After all, you are doing it for yourself not for anyone.
If you say they do it for themselves, can you give a real explanation to why these girls gets so salty about this makeup remover app?
www.youtube.com/watch
Not a fraud no but it does mean that your beauty came from someone with a biology degree.
Yoy gain points for looking good but lose points for not being confident enough in how you look without any cover-ups.
No. It's a thing that gets used to alter appearances. But if you go down that route, Ronald McDonald, the star of every film and TV show you love, and a fair percentage of the world's all committing fraud. It's just not like that.
But we aren't dating Ronald McDonald, nor are we under any impress that there's a person who genuinely looks like that. Same with the other actors, they're portraying someone they're not.
So in a context where you're meeting people, looking for a partner, are you trying to portray yourself as some other character? And if so, isn't that a problem? If I'm dating Ronald McDonald and I want to know his real face and he never takes the makeup off or maybe even denies that it's makeup, isn't that a problem?
Obviously no one is talking about special effects makeup or anything like that. It's obviously in the context of dating and meeting people, and in that context it's clearly problematic.
I think it's obviously related to dating, but whatever.
We can just make the stipulation now: For Ronald McDonald, it's not fraud, and for uses of makeup people actually care about, namely dating, it's at least worth considering otherwise. Yeah?
Because he is ronald mcdonald and the model's name and his true identity is not used to represent mcdonald's. So why are you comparing mcdonald's to everyday girls wearing makeups? You can compare ronald mcdonald two girls who just likes to be a super heroine/weaboo in real life.
I don't give a fuck.
The people who are wearing makeup are not bothering me in any way. They are not asking me to take them on a date or marry them or sleep with them. They just walk past me like I'm a nobody.
So why should I complain about them trying to look beautiful?
Not necesarily. I can often see if a woman is naturally pretty/beautiful by her facial features, despite her wearing makeup.
It's just a makeup. Guys who consider this as fraud should really work on expanding of their mental horizon.
I dont do heavy makeup, so me with and without makeup would just look like me looking so pale and dead or me looking brighter and fresher.
to be fair to women, half of you look awful without makeup because wearing makeup ruins your skin which then forces you to keep wearing makeup. It's really a false economy.
Also I like day makeup on a girl not that cake it till you make it fad that's been going on the past couple of years.
Spitting nothing but crisp facts up in here.
Lemme add that ladies y'all do not need to manicure the eyebrows, pluckin at them foreva untill you need to now draw on your eyebrows with crayon.
No it just depends on how much you wear if you wear natural makeup or just a little touch of lipstick mascara and blush it shouldnāt change your appearance that much unless maybe you over line your lips
I you could have included some sort of middle ground choice... fraud is too strong a term for me... but some of the freak shows I see these days... yikes... especially the Sharpie eyebrows.
Absolutely. Some women that are like a 2 or 3 look like a 6 or 7 with make up. The best thing to do on a first date is to go swimming, then you can really see the person you are getting into a relationship with. Why wait for 6 months to see her real face?
Sucks for you that waterproof makeup exists
Makeup's not a friend it enhances your beauty those apps that change your actual facial structure are frauds give you lip injections bigger eyes narrower cheeks that's a fraud
quite the slippery slope though isn't it
I donāt think that make up is the issue here, I think itās apps like āFaceTuneā .. Iāve seen many a woman who looks nothing like her actual pictures due to face tuning her face. Itās really quite depressing :(
nope
I see makeup on women as something worn, like part of the dressing. Most people like to look nice and feel good about their appearance.
Not necessarily a fraud, but it is potentially deceptive. In other words, it is a false representation of one's facial composition.
Everyone wants to look their best. Guys go to the gym and shave their bodies and try to look their best. As long as you are not faking your personality it's all okay.
I dont wear make up but we should not be obsessed with looks so much. If a guy just end a date althiugh he liked her personality and almost everything, then it is his loss. Men also lie about their height, hide their faces behind beards etc.
With the way the world is becoming, a significant amount of the value of the modern girl is attached to her looks, so if she fakes her look itās fraud
Nope. Men lie about dick size, job, etc etc. Making yourself look better for you is not a big deal.
If a guy does have an issue with it, they better be the most honest person on the planet.
Well if someone looks 10000x better with it on, to the point where they don't look like their natural self, then yeah, it kind of is.
Ofc not 😭as long as youāre not like being a complete catfish with it
Depends on the purpose you're dressing up for.
It's not as "bad" as push up bras though.
It's 50/50
Nothing interesting about it
That's the ideal answer because not all women need make up and some women need make up
Man who cares that's a trophy piece. She's drop dead stunning in cake face, and so what, it hella works.
10/10 clapping cheeks.
Only if it makes you look like a completely different person.
No, of course not. Every good girl deserves to be a princess :) Notice that I said "good" and not all of them, those "know-it-all", toxic girls are not included.
It really depends. Is the makeup being used to mask something? Or is it being used to enhance what you already have? Subtle difference but a difference nonetheless
I think it adds to the fantasy. Does anyone have different looks for different reasons?
It can if you don't show yourself without the makeup.. So not necessarily..
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