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Trending & News Whoever you are, you put up with more crap than your partner does. . . according to you. And your partner says the same thing.
You are aware of every little thing that you must tolerate and many of those things you tolerate without ever saying a word to your partner, right? So she is aware of SOME but not ALL of the effort that you make, but she is aware of every little thing she does to accommodate you, so - to her - it feels like she is doing more than you. And you feel like you are doing more than her.
But why does it even matter. Are you keeping score and going to give her a bill at the end of the year? Relationships never feel as if they are 50/50 and sometimes they can't be 50/50. The really important questions are
1. Are you getting what you need out of the relationship, and
2. Being honest with yourself, do you sincerely feel that you are paying far too great a price for what you are getting from the relationship?
The whole "happy wife, happy life" sort of proves that men deal with quite a bit of BS in a relationship. If your entire happiness is dependent upon how happy she is, and if she is unhappy then you are also unhappy, that's some huge BS.
That being said, prior to marriage it's probably based more upon individual experiences. Before the conversation ended and we both went to bed as it was getting late, I suggested to a woman I was talking to that "we should chat and hang out more often" and then the next day, when I was busy working a long shift and didn't find the time to message her first, she texted me angrily, telling me she was going to block me because I apparently disappeared on her. Keep in mind, it wasn't even 24 hours since our "goodnight" text message. And I was busy.
Sure, women may deal with some BS as well but the "crazy ex-girlfriend" is not exactly a cliche or a misjudgment men have about their partners.
It depends on what you mean by that. Women have to deal with more violence and fear of death. And because of that men have to deal with more vague non-answers. Because I’m an attempt to mitigate the fear of death, women can get very hesitant to be vulnerable. We hesitate to go out with someone because we don’t want to end up dead in the back of their car. But we also hesitate to clearly turn someone down, because we don’t want them to pull out a gun or punch us in the face. Because it happens. If we solely take into account the amount of so-called “BS”, it’s probably men who deal with it more. But most of the time it’s because the severity that women have to deal with is much higher.
Lol, men have voted for men. I think putting up with bullshit doesn’t depend on one’s gender.
For example, a woman might be a gold digger and may be with a man just for his looks and money. On the other hand, men can do the same, while they want a trophy wife or something. Men can be abusive, and can abuse the woman, the woman may put up with his shit because she loves him. A woman may try to kill a man to take revenge, or she can do anything to harm the guy. Trigger his insecurities. Manipulate him and so on. Guys can do the same thing. Anyone can put up with anyone’s bullshit. Because they just love them a lot to leave them
so you're not gonna point out that a lot of women voted women as well?
@MrNameless when i replied, only men had voted. There were no women. I was the first female to opine or vote on the poll
@MrNameless and also, I have very CLEARLY mentioned that its not gender-specific
Dude, I have no fucking idea why you’re hating on me. I’m pretty sure you have other work instead of spreading hate on my comments
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I sincerely wish we could stop making it a competition. I have friends---both men and women---who have been cheated on, lied to, dealt with abuse, dealt with being ghosted, dealt with a partner that didn't give a s---t about them because some people are grade A a--holes. Why is it fair to say to a guy friend or a girl friend, your BS is less then that BS. BS is just that, BS! Consider yourself incredibly lucky to get out of the dating world or dealing with the other gender in any capacity without your fair share of dealing with BS!
The poll is so cute, Women voted for Women Men voted for Men, it's really really amazing how none of us actually step down and tell the truth.
Because it's not ONE GENDER that puts up with more BS than the other. We're all different, the situations are different, dating is different for every single one of us... we have to stop putting a difference only in biological matters, we're different as humans...
I CAN HAVE the same characteristic as A MAN mentally... and i can be completely different from another woman's perspective... and so on so far..
It's easy trust me... let's not limit ourselves in BLAMING JUST ONE GENDER and putting up false statistics.
Depends what you consider bs.
Having someone nag to you about problems is just as annoying as someone refusing to acknowledge what you're saying.
I don't care whether it's over how much they are spending, what time they come home at night, who's taking out the trash/fixing the car, or why they never plan date night. Both are annoying and mind of cancel each other out.
I would say, usually the person who is disadvantaged by the state of status quo puts up with more bs.
Example: He complains she never cooks and wants her to help out. obviously he is the disadvantaged one since she won't cook until he nags.
Example: she wants a date night when they haven't had one for months? She's putting up with more bs because if she doesn't speak up, she won't ever get a date night.
No doubt men in general and why I will explain. Dating is normally done when one is young to secure a mate. It is normally not done when one is older and in a long-term relationship (LTR), live in, or married. And here it is important to note how men and women gain sexual mean value (SMV). For women it's mostly by virtue of looks and fertility, which is time dependent and generally decreases with age, whereas for men it's based on socio-economics and status which generally increases with age. So the side which has more value will have more room to maneuver and the other side will have to deal with BS.
Now some women may feel that they are dealing with BS, and that is 100% true, however that is because again, most men (about 80% anecdotally) are invisible to women. Nearly 100% of the women are going for the top 10-20% of guys in their youth who now have the abundance mentality and are able to gain the same maneuver that most women have and use it to create BS in their lives.
You've let too much redpill rhetoric cloud your judgement, man
@PantherMime - RedPill is the truth, it is logic, and facts. I'd be happy if the same "cloud" my judgement.
Redpill rage 101
@PantherMime - Can you offer any logical arguements apart from name calling?
It can be both people are often not compatible and put up with shit.
I've seen 2 friends basically use each other over 12 months of a relationship, neither was happy but neither would make first move to split. It was like two spoilt kids.
we (their friends) ended up in to sitting them down and talking to them about it (been on receiving end of these talks a few times).
they separated and within 6months had decent partners.
if you are not getting on or something really irks you, discuss it.
in a relationship (including dating)
remember Trust, Repect, Honesty Communication.
don’t put up with BS or anything you don’t like, simply move on and that applies to both genders, all sexualities, ethnicities etc.
Simple


Take the following scenario
1. A smart guy with a dumb girl = who is putting more BS?
2. A jerk and a smart girl = who is putting more BS?
At the end of the day, it is you who choose whether you want to put up with BS with the person you choose or not. It is you who decide what amount of BS you wish to put on with someone.
Depends... abusive/toxic relationships aside, I feel like men are often more rational and less emotional, I personally can deal with overly emotional people, but it's taxing at times... I also feel in general men are more straightforward, and don't look for roundabout ways of telling you what's on their mind, or having to hear what they really feel from their friends...
I think for this question I have to go with Men...
But when it comes to fearing your partner may be cheating on you or your partner being abusive, I think women have it the hardest...
When it comes to toxic relationships, I feel women are more likely to use psychological manipulation while men opt for physical intimidation or in the worst cases get physical...
(But I answered "both", because as you can read, both have it really tough...)
Men obviously,
We have to deal with being rejected for litterally anything in existence.
We can get dumped because she dreamed about us cheating when we didn't.
We judged on out height and Dick size but are not allowed to judge women on their fat-size
When we are good to them we are to nice
When we treat them respectably we don't make them feel special enough
When we act confident after a billion Girls tell us to act confident we are fuckboys
Then when they get with an actual fuckboy the good guys have to listen to them nagging
But whenever a man has a bad bad no one and especially not those women listen or they Just tell us it is not that bad instead of supporting us
And I could go on but it is Just men aren't treated as human anymore we are treated as wallets with penisses or as an emotional punching bag their is no in between
I feel Both man and woman take on the same amount BS. Because we all have shit we dont want to hear dont want to deal with with our partners. Its not that man deal with more or woman deal with it. We all deal with. So to me both men and women deal with the same amount. Men might deal with the same bs all the time and woman deal multiple bs or the other ways around both bothe sides deal with the same amount. See the thing everyone is counting everything they deal as one. But in all Reality. Some of the bs you deal can be counted together. Because like i said some deal with the same bs all the time same deal with different ones everyday every other day or so on. So both for me
I can’t speak for anyone else, but in my relationship, my fiancé definitely puts up with more. He’s very laid back most of the time and I’m… not. But I also bring more affection and put more love into our relationship. I think this might be true for many straight couples.
I dont think either sex puts up with more than the other its probably equal. Because headstrong, independent , intelligent people tend NOT to put up with BS at all. They dont have the time or patience for other people's bullshit. Also it would probably depend on how much your into a person that depends on how much you will put up with etc. So its probably about equal.
I think both genders have to deal with quite a lot of bullshit because they misunderstand the other gender.
Guys do that a lot and most times by a way too high emphasize on sex while women mostly tend to falsely interpret a guy´s action and tend to over-interpret something guys do.
As a man, its easy for me to vote that Men deal with more BS with datin, g if I don't think for a second.
But its a two way street when you are in an established relationship. As other said, you have to know what you want out of the relationship and see if you're getting that.. But you also have to see it from their perspective as well. A lot of people don' realize their bad behaviors, until they are confronted.
In terms of before a relationship being established..
Women have more options and aren't expected to put much effort as guys (setting up and paying for dates,) though. Once established its 50-50 and really depends on the individual. Relationships take a lot of work to maintain from BOTH sides.
I think what says a lot is that the ratio Women that voted that Men reject harsher, is about the same as Men that voted Women reject harder.
Obviously % wise its close as not that many people voted over all, but I think the gender bias is interesting even still
Generally, it's men. Women's sex appeal is a very powerful thing for a man. And he'll be willing to go out of his way to deal with her than she would him for that very reason. Men's sex appeal is powerful for women as well, but women generally have more options so the man isn't anything she can't easily replace. And the statistics on which sex initiates divorce support this as well.
I say the level of bs is not gender specific but rather how high one reaches in an idealistic mate quest. Say two stay together because they are close enough in, pick an attribute, smv. However, one senses he/she has the upper hand in the relationship and is able to delve out bs at will and get away with it. The other is “Who puts up with more BS in dating…”
I have to say both men and women because entering a relationship isn’t easy especially if you do get with someone that will make your life a living hell.
@kevyhanma do you date men?
@FrenchGirl2 I’ve dated 4 actually
So maybe you feel more affinity towards men and don't understand women's behavior? There is no need to be mean towards each other...
@FrenchGirl2 exactly! So why are women so much more bitchy than men?
@kevyhanma excuse me but have you talked to a lot of women? I have been raped, beaten and cheated by men. Do I say everywhere "why men are the shit of the earth?" don't make generalities of bad encounters...🙄
@FrenchGirl2 look if you got raped that was your fault people wake up everyday and go their whole lives without getting raped but I’m getting off topic this isn’t just from my personal experience it’s from every man I’ve ever met as well if I had a nickel everytime I heard a guy talk about how foul and lowdown women are I could pay bill gates to suck my dick
@kevyhanma First. Wow. You are a despicable machist, a little filthy loser. Being abused by my uncle, what was I thinking when I was born? Anyway, if women are "bitchy" towards you it's probably because you are pathetic, stupid, rude, inappropriate, cheap, uninteresting, machist, worth less than what we can find on the bottom of a toilet. For the Lord sake just stick to dudes and stop wasting women time and yours because by all means for all the money in the world we we all see that you are a lost cause towards women
@FrenchGirl2 I’m no thanks I’m done with cock women turn 18 everyday and they’ll believe anything thanks for the machist compliment
*gone due lack of sign of intelligence*
@FrenchGirl2 I'd just let it go with that
I would say we men deal with a lot more crap since women don't approach us and aren't asking us out.
But then we got weird plonkers like apope, who are irritating and playing weird games with women. Not to mention the losers and those, who send dick pictures.
So that kinda evens it out for both sides.
Both. I have been in some very difficult relationships with some very questionable men but I am also not proud to admit that I have been the bad guy in some of my other relationships.
Men because women are masters of drama and other bs. Men don't create many issues therefore most of them solve them. That said I don't take bs but that also means very little dating.
It entirely depends on the two people dating. In my opinion women do, because I've known a lot of guys who make their girlfriends deal with a lot of bs, and less women that do that.
In my personal experience, men. Women where I'm from complain all the time. Men do stupid things too, but women nag more. Just being honest. But as others have said, it might be equal across genders.
Why would you out up with bs? If you aren't happy, leave.
We kinda have too if we ever wanna find a wife
No you don't. What's the point in marriage if you aren't happy?
No we have to put with BS to find the one that will make us happy.
Cause Girls are being told a lot of lies on how to get mr right so mrs right is doing those same things in dating as the bitches do
Sounds like you're an exception on that but we can't all date you
Stop comparing yourself to animals. You are a human you have intelligence.
Sex is not required for survival.
Sex is required for the survival of your genes, which is far more important evolutionarily than you as an organism. Why do you think orgasms feel really, really, really good? It's because organisms that had orgasms that felt good pursued sex more enthusiastically than those whose orgasms didn't feel good. And more sex = more descendants.
Which isn't required. You don't have to pass on your genes.
I voted women because many men say or do BS to get (more) sex, kinda everyone I have been with in at least a mild version.
Not sure what BS women in general do to men? But maybe there is something I am not thinking of since I do not date them :D
@Prideful so, who mentioned tinder? Also question says 'in dating' not 'in relationships'. You're proud of that statement of yours? ;p
It depends on the individuals. People need to stop generalizing according to gender..
@kevyhanma I'm starting to become unsure you actually understand the English language.
What I'm saying is,
I'm not going to sit here and try to argue with you, when obviously you're a biased dumbass, who was probably hurt by a women.
And since you couldn't POSSIBLY be in the wrong AT ALL, you choose to generalize a group of people because you're a whiny baby.
You're the one who made yourself look like a dick, then got offended when I messed with you about it.
In my original comment, it wasn't like I was all, 'mEn ArE sO sTuPid' I literally said we need to stop turning shit into a gender war, and you decided to make a comment that just makes you sound super salty.
So, if anything, you're on here contradicting your own point.
In dating, I would say men put up with more BS.
In a serious relationship, I think women tend to put up with more BS
In my marriage wife puts up with more than me in my opinion. Don’t doubt she would say the opposite that I put up with more.
It's probably about even. Women deal with more on the front end, because they get a lot of guys trying to use them for sex. Men deal with more when the relationship starts and ends.
nah.. sometimes guys really do get too comfortable in a relationship
@MrNameless Sometimes, but not super often.
I think men put up with more BS from society. We basically all get blue-pilled throughout our lives. Heavily. Then we are left to slowly piece together the true state of affairs. On top of that, women have the nerve to call us "privileged".
I put both, i think its more about the person, i've only dated men and had horrible experiences often but i don't think it would be fair for me to assume women have it worse, i'm sure both genders get messed about.
All of the men will vote A, all of the women will vote B.
I, personally, have no idea.
how often to you deal with pervs? :P
lol really? how does that make you feel?
lol good isabel. maybe ill make up for them ;)
It's natural to vote like that, if you don't stop and think for a couple seconds. I voted both.
Depends on each other's personality, temperament, maturity and tolerance levels.
I think anyone can deal with BS during a relationship regardless of gender.
In case of America, both will put up with BS. They both fool around and live with lies but if it’s Asian community women have to tolerate men who fool around and they don’t get much money from divorcing their men
Without looking at the poll, I'm sure men will mostly say men & women will mostly say women. Because of that, I'll vote both.
probably men, because men have always been and probably always will be expected to do the heavy-lifting when it comes to starting a relationship and maintaining a relationship
Have you ever dealt with a woman who hasn’t eaten for a long period of time? Lol
If "bullshit" includes inappropriate behavior and harassment, it's not even a competition (women).
Short term wom3n out up with more. Long term men put up with faaaaaaaaar More
Women. They are genetically prone to BS in relationships, I see that shit every day.
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I misread the question and selected B. Can you please correct the results? Thanks
The game or dating has always required more of men than it has of women
Women do, But they have more options to avoid it but most of them don't.
I think both struggle with different BS.
I used to think men but now I'm not sure anymore.
Puts up with? Why put up with BS?
Both, and for different reasons.
Stupid question, of course it's men. 😬🏃💨
Whichever one is Accepting the BS!
Definitely women
Apologize for what?
Aren't you the pedophile that said you wanted a 16 year old in another question?
AND WE HAVE OUR WINNER!! By way of pedophilia tap out!
@Sweepthelegjonny Naw cause he really did comment that
That's illegal sir
It is illegal. The age of consent is so younger teenagers can date older teenagers (so 17 and 18) not for grown ass men like you. And it doesn't matter if they look 'grown' they aren't for you. The fbi cares idiot.
It's morally incorrect. It's not even legal for you (it's legal for older TEENAGERS) Your very creepy for wanting to sleep with a minor.
So let me ask you this is it better for a 50 year old man to sleep with 18 year olds or a 22 year old to sleep with 16 year olds? And how is that creepy younger women are more attractive and it’s not illegal for me to date one people who date eventually have sex so I don’t understand the issue people MAINLY WOMEN have with this
It's still morally incorrect either way. You sound so crazy omg
As half a joke i always view it if you are old enough to die for your country the you are old enaugh to fuck.
6 year difference is hardly a creep if it is leagal, 16 is a bit young, a lot of 18 year olds are also immature. So it's a bit of a grey area. Wouldn't say he is crazy, you two just have different views.
Nope still gross
How is this even a question.
Me..
Women!
Hermaphrodites
Depends what it is.
Men, absolutely.
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