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Because they're likely:
1. Not respecting boundaries - if I say no, that means no. It doesn't mean ask me every five minutes like a bored child on a road trip.
2. They're selfish lovers - they're often wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am, wait what? Women can't have orgasms, lol. /s
3. They're addicted - sex and porn addiction are things. The men I've met who are sex crazed have no brainpower for anything else. They can't maintain their concentration at work, they can't get by without obsessively looking at porn.
4. They have no personality. This kinda goes with the above. With so much focus on their dick, they don't really have much personality outside it.
5. It's desperation.
Well I’m none of those things besides having a high sex drive. I mean unless u count desperate for the only girl I want then sure but is that really desperation then? And I mean if I’m going for whorish women with a high sex drive what can they expect? And I mean how is a guy with a high sex drive bad? Do u not want to cum 10x in a row?
I mean, you do you. If sex is all you want from a relationship, power to you.
But for most people, sex is just a small part of a much deeper and richer relationship.
Again, doesn't need to be you. You can absolutely just fuck like rabbits and that's it. But that doesn't mean every woman will want that.
Sex is not all I want. Not sure where u got that idea
If you believe you would be doing well, naturally you are too interested and she is not interested because you are not hot. If she believes she is doing well then of course she is interested. However, that also means you are out of her league and you are not interested because you know you can do better.
But I am super attractive?
Surely you jest. Otherwise, there are only two possibilities. Either you have a greatly inflated opinion of you appearance or else you only chase after girls like the following who, because they are in such high demand, are going to be difficult regardless.
I see the guys these girls go for and they are always less attractive than me. I’ll describe myself cuz I’ve been told I’m really really attractive a lot by women and the way they act tend to make me think so. I’m 6ft tall white I’m 155-160lbs at like 10-12% body fat with visible abs. Pretty muscular but not absolutely jacked. I have long wavy brown hair with a natural tint of blond. A shapely nose on the larger side. Gray eyes that change color from green to blue depending on the light. Pretty full lower lip but my upper lip is a little thin. A strong and slightly on the wider side jawline. I’ve also specifically worked out the areas of my body to give myself the most attractive physique I could like didn’t train my upper arms as much and did more training for my chest traps and abs so I have longer thinner looking limbs. I’m super good with fashion and makeup like better than most women. Which a lot of women might not see as attractive but others find incredibly attractive. I have a goth emo style which most women find attractive but obviously the goth emo girls I go for are into. Physically at least I should be super attractive to at least the women I go for. I’m working towards a career in finance and I’m def really bright and I think I’m a pretty nice guy much nicer at least than most people I meet. I don't know this shouldn’t be so hard I don't know what’s wrong. Most of these women are thrilled to meet me at first like when I start talking to them about makeup and fashion they can’t get enough of it it seems like.
And yeah I only go after women who I find to be really attractive but I’m really attractive and the girls I go for are rarely as attractive as me in all honesty. And even when I lower my standards unless I crazy lower them and go for straight whores I don’t have success. Like I’m talking less than average to maybe average looking to where I can’t even get it up then I have success
All that is important but a primary and universal characteristic of good looks is high bilateral symmetry because it is an excellent indicator of good health and good genes. That applies to all species, and certainly to mammals and birds. Look closely at your face in a mirror and judge if you have high bilateral symmetry. If you do, in addition to the other characteristics you described, I would think women would be highly attracted to you.
Regardless, because I have never been their age, I am not a good source of what women in their high teens and 20s like. What I like now may change in a few years. Along with more life experiences, there may be changes in my body and brain that gives me a different perspective.
So assuming I am really attractive what else could be my issue?
Unless you are seeking elite girls like the foregoing photos, I don't know. Ask me in a few years, I may have another perspective.
If he is too interested AND acts desperate, or willing to do whatever I want, then it is a no because he looks weak and it doesn't really look like he is actually interested in me, but he is just clinging on someone who shows some interest finally.
If he is too interested but with healthy boundaries and the ability to say no to me, then it is not a problem.
I agree with everything apart the weak part. I feel like as woman when we’re interested in a guy (or girl) we tend to show our vulnerable sides. It’s a part of our luring ways. The reason why we do it cause men tend to loosen up and feel comfortable and safe around us. And after opening up we decided if we truly want them or not. So if they’re too interested in the beginning we already know there’s gonna be problems. I wouldn’t personally call it weak , but I’d call it a walking red flag.
Is it desperation if I would only date like.01% of women?
It"s all about balance. Seeming too interested is usually because you're taking too fast and we don't feel it is genuine, as if you striving and running against the clock towards an end, and it's just horrible.
But even when I explain to them that I am genuinely interested in them nothing changes
I've never had one interested in my romantically. I would be put off if all they wanted was sex, but if he was really interested in me as a person and was open and gentlemanly about it I'd be really flattered. I don't know if I'd necessarily be interested back, I guess I'd have to experience it.
I do that but it doesn’t work
If a woman rejects you for being too interested then it means she was never into you in the first place. If a woman liked you, she would love it if you showed her more interest
That’s def not true cuz there are countless women who are clearly interested in me but play hard to get cuz I showed too much interest
Being interested does not mean she is into you? What does it mean then. What is it when u meet a guy with a personality compatible with u and you find them really attractive?
No but women 100% seem to. And womens idea of too much interest is not much interest at all it seems like. And maybe I don’t understand how women pick partners but I assume they want to date the guys with the most attractive looks and personalities the most and well I should be that guy and I get feedback that my looks and personality are super attractive yet every girl plays hard to get with me. Like they’ll obviously be attracted to me but make it super hard to have anything happen with it and I’m talking like 100 women do this. Like I have to show the perfect amount of interest or it doesn’t work. Can’t be too much can’t be too little and has to be perfectly timed. I would be thrilled if the girl I liked showed a ton of interest so I don't know.
its time to cut the ignorance and understand that
1. there is a difference between being interested versus "liking you".
Someone can be interested in you without getting to know you.
But someone cannot "like" you , if they do not know you first.
2. It sounds like you're trying to date some immature little girls. This is very common complaint amongst teenagers or girls in their early 20s that they play games, don't know what they want, or play hard to get. Try going for a grown woman instead little girls.
I will not start my first serious relationship with a girl over 20 that would be a slap in the face and make me feel gross and uncomfortable. I would rather just be single at that rate.
So I’m supposed to just casually miss out on the most attractive years of the girl I’m marrying’s life both physically and personality wise and just not care. I would actually rather just not date anyone at that rate. Thank u for helping me realize tho that there is something wrong with these women and it’s not me. I’d be too bitter about the situation to have a healthy relationship with women older than that I don't know what to say but that’s ok. I’ll just keep trying or never have a relationship.
@Gangactivities911
I think life would be very tragic for you once you hit the wall and realize that you can no longer get young girls like you used to. You're not gonna look 26 forever, remember that.
That’s fine but I’ll gladly stick with a girl if she was with me when she was younger but if I’m only gonna start dating her when she is older I’d feel gross disgusted and used and I’m just not about it I’d rather just not date them. Like I don't know what to say
Not having had a high school sweetheart is already bad enough but to expect me to start my first serious thing with a girl over 25 is insulting at best and disgusting at worst
I’m a goth guy who goes for goth girls for the most part and they tend to be much accepting of older partners so I don’t think I’ll have an issue when I was 18 I was so immature and not able for a relationship and most goth guys are like that so it’s not like they have options I think I’ll be able to get younger women into my 40s if I try hard enough in all honesty plus I’m super good looking soooooo
Why would anyone see you as a high quality guy? I know i wouldn't be with someone who will dump me as i get older. you're the lowest scum of the earth. And there's no doubt you will make a terrible husband. No smart young girl will see you as husband material. Only dumb ones would go for you
It’s only disgusting cuz I don’t have a legit smite connection to them. An actual emotional connection can override any amount of age really but if I’m not actually emotionally connected to them all I have to be attracted to them with is looks which younger women have more of. It feels weird and uncomfortable to never have had a healthy sexual relationship with a looksmatch when I am younger. I don’t have any trouble getting 18 yr old girls now and I don’t think that would change too much as I get too much older tbh. It really just depends on the girl you have to find the right one and who said I’m gonna leave them when they get to a certain age. I’m not Leonardo DiCaprio. I don’t see it like that. At that rate I’d just have an open relationship. I want a legit Andre connection but I’m order to feel a legitimate connection I have to start dating them when they are younger or I just don’t feel it.
@Gangactivities911
you're not gonna attract 18 yr old girls forever. I can assure you of that. Im 26, im not attracted to guys in their 40s. I can say that vast majority of young women in their 20s aren't attracted to old guys in their 40s to 60s. So if a 25 yr old disgusts you, then you will be very very disappointed once you get old.
Options dont get better for men as they get older
@Gangactivities911
Men hit the wall too. Dont forget that.
Ok well I’m still not starting my first serious relationship with a woman over 20. I’ll just stick to casual or flings or whatever I’m not seriously considering women above that age no matter how old I get if that means I’m never having a serious relationship than so be it
And also just cuz ur not attracted to older men doesn’t mean other girls aren’t there are definitely girls who are attracted to much older men and if u stay in shape and are otherwise attractive as a guy when your older you shouldn’t have much competition. My dad is 60 with a full head of hair and I suspect I will be too based on how it looks now and if I stay in really good shape and take care of my skin and work on a career I still firmly believe I will be able to attract much younger women for quite a while. It hasn’t been an issue a single time yet. So we’ll see when it starts to be.
@Gangactivities911
Vast majority of young women are not attracted to old men. For the same reason why you are not attracted to old women. I like older guys but I don't like old guys. No fat old uncles or grandpas.
I'm 26, I only date older guys by 5-10 years. My ideal age range for a man is late 20s to mid 30s. I don't date guys over 35. Because that is when most guys hit the wall.
It doesn't matter if you like it or not, men hit the wall too.
I'm not interested in some old man with wrinkles, hair loss, weight gain, white hairs, muscle loss, saggy balls, erectile dysfunction, dick not working sometimes. Never am I gonna ever find that shit attractive. I like tall, dark and handsome muscular young guys , in shape, strong and fast with a full head of hair and no wrinkles.
There is an evolutionary reason why vast majority of young women tend to date young men. Young men have better quality sperm which means healthier offspring and better survival of children. Young men are stronger and faster And defend her and her offspring better. Never ever is a old man who is weak slow suffering from muscle loss, knee doesn’t really work, dick not working sometimes ever attractive. We, as humans, are evolutionarily designed to find youth attractive.
I don’t care about how you like to believe in lies to make feel better. Men hit the wall too and get ready to face the reality that you won’t always be attracting pretty young hot girls in their 20s
Ok well there are 18 yr old women who are into men in their 40s and if I’m never looking for a serious thing I’ll settle for girls in their 20s when I’m 40 or 50 too which I’ve heard multiple women on here claim to be. Considered I’m really physically attractive and the type of women I’m generally going for goth and emo girls they tend to be much more into older men than other girls I don’t think I’m gonna have much issues. In all honesty I’d rather die alone and just watch porn than date women my own age at this point so Idc if I hit the wall anyways. I will never date women my own age at this point. I would rather pay for sex than do that. I have absolutely no emotional interest in women my age so how can I possibly have a relationship with then?
So I’ll take care of my skin, I’ll stay in shape, I’ll use hair dye, and ill stay in good health and none of those things will be an issue and considering other guys my age won’t do that I’ll stand out and get the younger girls who are into men my age and if it take a bit of money to seal the deal so be it. I don’t see why this won’t work. And plus as time goes on im getting better and better at understanding the nonsensical nature of women. Literally just avoid them when they start to play games and go for other women and it’ll work out for me.
@Gangactivities911
Just because you met a few young girls who like old men, it does not mean vast majority of us like old men. Take a look at marriage statistics, vast majority of us marry guys less than 10 years older. There is no evidence most of us are marrying guys in their 40s. We simply aren't interested in guys in their 40 to 50s.
Men in their 30s are most attractive and these guys tend to also be financially stable. Why would i go for an old unattractive 45 yr old when i have 32 yr olds interested in me?
I also can't grow old with someone who is already old. By the time im 45, i will find myself married to a senior citizen. I will just end up dumping him for a young hotter man around my age who can still fuck well.
You can claim that you will still look good in 40 to 50s but 75% of aging has to do with genetics.
Ok well I just need a few to show interest and it’s not like at that point I want a serious relationship anymore. But if ur a really attractive guy it’s not a lot of these women can find a better option their own age anyways. And In the goth community mostly all the guys are I don't know the world weenies is what I’ll use. Their either hardly goth or they are too nice to be really attractive to women I somehow managed to have both which is extremely hard to find. I’ve never had a girl reject me for my age so I don't know I’ll play my odds and it’s not like money doesn’t exist. If I’m still attractive looking and especially if I add a little bit of money to it I’m confident there will be at least some girls who want to fuck me into my 40s maybe even 50s. Plus I will have absolutely excellent social skills with women by that point I’m slowly mastering this game and It’s only gotten easier as I’ve gotten older.
@Gangactivities911
[I’ve never had a girl reject me for my age so I don't know I’ll play my odds and it’s not like money doesn’t exist. If I’m still attractive looking and especially if I add a little bit of money to it I’m confident there will be at least some girls who want to fuck me into my 40s maybe even 50s. ]
The reality is, if you're 26, right now you can get 48 out of every 50 young girls to marry you.
Once you hit 45, the number will be around 3 out of 50
That's because women who associate with guys who look for "sex partners" usually have poor judgement in what they are doing with their lives.
I know a bunch of women who have friends with benefits that’s what I mean by sex partner
You might need to learn the act of luring. Maybe look for a woman with a high drive too. Trying to jump to sex takes away the attraction for most people. Think about when someone nags at you for something. It gets annoying.
But it’s not like I’m trying to jump to sex I don’t necessarily even have to bring up sex just showing too much interest generally does this. Like asking them to hang out two days in a row and stuff does this
Maybe it isn’t personal. It’s just distraction with other interests. Keep looking. If they don’t show interest let them go. Why waste the time, you know?
But it’s not cuz if they don’t keep my interest they fight to get it back and then when they have it they play hard to get again and I’m talking like 100 different women play this game with me and it’s really not my imagination. And most of them will literally talk to other guys in the meantime. And it’s not like the guys they’re talking to are particularly attractive most of the time and it can’t be a compatibility thing either cuz they hardly even know me. Idgi
Maybe you are picking the same type of woman? Try someone you wouldn’t normally go after. See if the pattern breaks.
I go for alternative women mostly but even when I go for like normie sorority girl women it’s the same thing. Like I can’t show too much interest or it’s over and the level of interest that’s acceptable seems to be extremely low
Don’t get frustrated. Dating is never easy.
How can I not be frustrated Tho? I could go to a bar and strike up a convo with 10 different women and end up with 0 dates I could spend the whole night talking with 1 woman and not even end up with a phone number. I have never had a serious relationship and I’m 26 years old. I really don’t wanna did alone. I could t really think of anything to make myself more attractive and I’m a naturally good looking guy on top of it. I spend hours and hours and hours and hours have to have spend hundreds if not thousands of hours trying to meet women and I don’t have any luck. It’s demoralizing af I don't know how to be optimistic without straight lying to myself at this point.
Like I’m supposed to just plow through getting rejected or women playing games by the 100s as if it’s nothing and not even end up with a single date. How many girls u know would keep trying if that was their experience? U have to be a real special type of person to want to keep trying at that rate.
You need to get into something new, like a class for a new hobby. Were people can learn more about you while focusing on something else.
But what happens when I join a class or hobby and find 0 women in that class or hobby id want to date. Only like.01% of women I’d actually want to date and unless I could approach or use a dating app I’m just simply not going to come into contact with enough women to find one I’d actually want
Then learn what you went to class for and become really good at it. Woman find talent attractive.
The odds of me taking a class and finding a woman I’d want to date in that class is minuscule at best. I’d date like.01% of women at best. The odds just absolutely do not justify that strategy I’d be better off on tinder and cold approaching at that rate
You didn’t read what I wrote. Okay. Take care.
A new talent in cooking isn’t going to find me a relationship. I mean I can’t even get girls to go on a date with me so how will they even know I’m good at cooking
Being too direct or coming on too strong is really unattractive. People have boundaries.
So don’t be that interested?
Yeah you can make it look like you're interested but not too eager. It makes people uncomfortable.
But the level of interest I can show in most women before it makes them uncomfortable is ridiculously small it seems like. Like I can have a 2 hour convo with a girl I met it can go great and then if a few days later I ask to meet up at the same place we met they act like I’m being ridiculous. Or like another time I met a girl I was interested in when I was super drunk and it was obvious and I was talking too much I guess and that killed it. Like it takes soo little it feels like to cross that threshold that I just feel doomed unless I have perfect social skills or something and those are isolated incidence nearly every girl I’ve talked to does this it seems like. Another girl who asked to fuck me 2 hours into meeting me changed her mind when she realized I was really interested in having sex with her? Well she was really interested too so what is the problem? Another girl fucked me after meeting me for like 15 minutes 2 times and then 2 days go by after she messages me and after a few messages in I ask if she wants to meet up again and she acts like I’m being ridiculous. If I behaved this way with any of my male friends there would be absolutely no problem so why do women have such a problem with this?
Well it you did nothing the wrong way then those women are just being weird.
But I’m talking like 100+ women I’ve talked to do this like literally every single one. It can’t just be my luck at this point.
Maybe it’s weird to ask this but if I’m like waaaay too attractive like maybe I’m not this attractive but part of me really thinks I am but like if I’m like the most attractive guy you’ve ever seen in your life level attractive would it just make u assume there is no way I want u especially long term? And like the slightest sign of a possible rejection will turn u away?
Just like hypothetically
Confident girls wouldn't think you were too good for them but if a girl is like that then maybe she'll be discouraged except if she is, then she's not doing the right thing by ignoring you.
Well I have a high sex drive so I tend to go for whitish women who have low self esteem so maybe it’s that but then again even the girl who is a virgin waiting for marriage did this sooo I don't know. Like I’m telling u I could go to a club or bar ask 10 random women for their numbers after striking up a convo and still end up with 0 dates I’m not even exaggerating too. I could spend the whole night talking to just one woman and end up with not even a phone number and never see them again. And I’m like a really good looking guy who is pretty good at talking to women. The only thing that ever works is talking to women I see over and over again like 5-10+ times which is an insanely small amount of women by the way like .05% of women I see. And playing is extremely slowly. But I have a really high sex drive and I want a woman who does too so they’re like literally always fucking other guys already and I don’t really wanna wait around like that while they’re currently fucking another guy that’s just weird. I can’t win I really can't unless I spend 1000s of hours approaching women maybe I have a chance of finding a unicorn. Or unless I just don’t act interested even tho I am. What do u suggest I do? Like I really don’t know what to do anymore and I really don’t want to die alone and I’m just getting soooo tired of this game.
Maybe they can see your desperation or it really does seem like you're too interested. You can always try being friends first. They probably don't want to jump into a relationship too fast and want to get to know you better before all that.
So I meet a girl out at a bar or a club or just out generally there are slim to no chances of me seeing them ever again so I have a convo and ask for their phone number or social media and I text them a few days later talk a bit and try to set up a time to hang out. How is that desperate and how is that not trying to be their friend first?
Perhaps try consulting a dating coach.
Thats not going to help and I’m not paying all that money. And I have watched numerous free videos online for dating coaches
Because it seems too easy. Seems like you're trying too hard.
It also seems like we’re just a game. And then your trust issues kick in and you start doubting if they actually like you or is this all just a joke.
@Unlucky_JaneDoe not to mention that when a guy shows too much interest in early stages they also tend to lose it really quickly once they get what they wanted.
I agree 100% with that.
So playing hard to get is going to increase your odds?
I've never had to chase a guy so I don't know what that means.
Playing hard to get is being interested but pretending not to be
@Gangactivities911 depends on which 0,1% you're after. But I would say no , cause usually desperate guy run through a lot of girls and you’re only focused on that 0,1%.
It doesn’t matter how attractive a guy is 95-99% of women will flake that’s just a fact and any guy that’s approached a bunch of women could tell u this. So it’s not desperate if that’s how women act, what else r guys supposed to do? I’m a really attractive guy approaching similarly attractive women.
Now that’s not true. Women usually turn men down cause they don’t like their aura. They might feel uncomfortable. You can simply turn a woman off just by your cologne. Women aren’t picky. They just surround themselves with things and people they feel comfortable with. Even some strangers make us feel comfortable or give us the chills as a signal to move away from them. You can’t tell me that you haven’t felt uncomfortable with someone new that you just met. And the fact that you think that you’re really attractive already gives me the impression that your oblivious, self-centred and a little egoistic. But it’s amazing that you have confidence in yourself.
U told me my standards were too high I told u why they are not. “Women can turn down a guy because of his cologne” “women aren’t picky” Ummmmm… what? Ur deflecting because I don’t think u can possibly admit ever that maybe part of the problem is the way women approach dating so u have to be rude to me whatever tho nothing new there
Bc we are need true love
How does that indicate it isn’t true love?
