If you met and went on dates with two women and then discover that they are both equally very compatible with you and they are equally attractive looking to you, would you choose to be in a serious relationship with the virgin one or the non-virgin one?
I choose the virgin.
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I choose the non-virgin
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1 mo
Some of you guys said you ONLY want virgin women but you yourselves are not even virgins so... that does not add up to me, shouldn't you get what you give, it's not fair to want ONLY a virgin partner when you yourself aren't a virgin, If you aren't a virgin then you should take what you get virgin or not.
That's like saying you want a athletic built partner when you yourself are morbidly obese, that's not fair at all, It makes no sense to want what you cannot offer in return realistically.
1 mo
By saying take what you get virgin or not, I am specifically referring to virginity and non virginity only.
Don't let the loop sided vote on this one fool you. Guys think when they met a virgin that she is going to give it to them, and that some how means she will be attracted and in love with him. Like the idea of being her first will make the relationship stronger or more meaningful. For some this might be the case, but in me experiences its not.
For other guys its just some type of fetish thing, and that is super creepy.
See the truth is that no virgin has any practical experience with sex, so if she gives you her virginity then you automatically become the best sex she ever had. I think subconsciously this has impacts on the guys thinking. Because when a guy has sex with a virgin they tend to think they have more ownership or control over the person. Like she seriously saved it for the right person and now that he has had sex with her he is that special person, when in reality he is just another ordinary man.
I for one would rather be with a women with some real life experience behind her, because if you can please a women that knows what she is about then you have really accomplished something. That is more sexy to me than someone who has no life experience. I mean a healthy sex life is so important to healthy and productive relationship, a virgin has no life experience to compare this against.
Inevitably at some point people reach a bump in the road within their relationship then that doubt begins to creep into the virgins mind, how do I know it is not me, if I have never been with anyone else? Is it me, or is it him... how do I know?
Or you end up like me and you married the girl you took her virginity from, and well lets say she never fully matured sexually. Now your have some real issues, because you had previous experience and now there are serious incompatibility issue.
Nope at 45 I don't find being a virgin sexy, in the least and I pretty much started feeling that way around 25. See if she's still a virgin into her younger 20's that's normal... but after 25 or older then insecurities over sex can start to develop. So that could have long term effects, for me I took my ex-wife's virginity at 18. She18 out of highschool and I was 20 and I was not a virgin. But she was highly insecure about sex, and at 20 I was to immature to realize it or understand it. I that she was insecure about being a virgin and the first time, but no she had serious insecurities over sex in general. Later on she only admitted to giving up her virginity to me, because she knew I was not a virgin and didn't want to lose me. So over time that developed into a source of resentment for her, like maybe I was not the guy she thought I was and now I was to blame.
In the end after divorce, I have dated some age appropriate and experienced women... no issues in the sex department.
Ok i hear you Buy you are only mentioning one aspect of the situation men are attracted to virgins for many various reasons and you only mentioned, some guys here said that they are attracted to virgins because being a virgin it means that that girl was able to control herself sexually, some guys said they are attracted to virgins because virginity is celebrated in their religion, some said they want and are attracted to virgins because they themselves are virgins etc. Also research shows that women who have only ever slept with their spouse are 65 percent most likely to be happy in their marriages, and that overall people who lose their virginity to their spouses only are very likely to have long happy marriages, even in my life all the people I know and I have met were very happy to have lost their virginity to their partner and they remained for the most part happily married for a really long time. So virginity can be a very beautiful thing.
I know you had a hard experience with your ex and I am sorry about that but please don't see all virgins to be like her because that's not true, there are many reasons why women choose to remain virgins besides insecurity.
The CDC also reports that virgins make up 12.3 percent of females and 14.3 percent of males ages 20 to 24. That number drops below 5 percent for both male and female virgins ages 25 to 29 and goes as low as 0.3 percent for virgins ages 40 to 44.
Last thing I want to do is argue with a person so prepared to spout the virtues of virginity.
But over of 86% of women lost thier virginity by age of 24, and 97% by the age of 29. Less than 5% of women married today are virgins.
So your 65% number of happily married virgins is slanted... because is 65% of a total of 5%... so that less than 3% of total population of women have happy marriages whe they saved sex for marriage.
68 million married women in the United States. So 3% of 68 mil. So something like 1.2 million virgins weighted on sex.
So you 65 percent 1.2 million is like 700,000 thousand women. Then I could break that number down further if I want to really get into demographics.
For example out 65% of virgins that never discovered, which is on a total of 700,000 women.
Whats thier race, how many are white, black, middle eastern, Asian, Indian.
Christian, non- Christian, Muslim or atheists.
See race and culture matter, because is some cultures and religion divorce is downed upon as much as marital sex. So just because 65% of women that weight 9n sex for marriage are not divorced does not mean they happily married, or that there are not ethnic or religious factors which prevents them from leaving or divorceing.
So honest there's such a small percentage of women... we can't draw any conclusions about marriage and waiting for sex... other than fact that 67million women compared to 1.2 million women don't wait. So there are well over something like 500% more happily married non- virgins in US than married virgins.
So percentage wise you'd so better giving it up when younger and finding a good man.
But my piont was 75 of guy that voted virgin. On this reponse... voted yes because for men its like sex fetish thing to land a virgin. Because 95% of that 75% of guys that voted yes, would just easily and more likely would take a non- virgin without complaint...
I disagree with you saying men who choose virgins have a sexual fetish for virgins, what makes you think the men who choose non virgins have no sexual fetishes for non virgins. Ok since your argument is that this question is a fetish thing that means you and all the men who choose non virgins have a sexual fetish for non virgins. So most of the men who took part in this poll have a fetish for both non virgin women and virgin women.
So the results mean that More men have a fetish for virgins and less men have a fetish for non virgins and that's fine we can't all like chocolate ice-cream some of us are more into vanilla.
Yeah your right, we can not all like the same ice cream... I am just saying most guys who voted on this didn't wait to lose their virginity. Most those guys that voted yes, probably have had multiple partners by now and think hummmm, a virgin... yum!
So my only piont is if your a virgin don't think that thid vote is indicative of guys with good intentions. And of course not all guys are turned off by virgins or turned on by them... it really depends on the person.
But in your scenario your talking about two amazing women, perfect in every way but ones a virgin which would you go with? Most these guys are voting the virgin, because they think it will be easier to control her or impress her, because she's got no experience in having a sexual relationship... and yes the a degree of naiveiness and innocent about a virgin that get men turned on. There a lot of guys out there that think virgin vagina is tighter than none virgin, or have never been with virgin and thinks its exciting... so yes fetish thing. I mean you've heard Muslims who die defending Islam being awarded 50 virgins in heaven.. Just don't put too much stock into this vote.
I hear you, You have a point!, some men are picking the virgin for all the wrong reasons, I am Christian so I analyze virginity spiritually, so if I flipped the question and said now it's guys who are compatible with me one virgin one non virgin then I would pick the virgin because that would be a spiritually beneficial option for me. Some men here said they want virgins because they themselves are virgins and if they were not virgins then they would go for non-virgin women, I think that's fair, I myself ama virgin and i prefer virgin men over non virgin men. So I think it's pretty unfair for non virgin men to want only virgin women when they themselves are not virgins... you know what I mean.. and that's what some men said on here they said if a woman is not a virgin then they won't marry her meanwhile those men aren't virgins themselves so i now see why people say the concept of virginity is distorted because now we have entitled non virgin men who think they deserve virgin women lol!/
Exactly, I agree with that.. i guess my only piont in the end was to not put too much stock in the vote... because more than half those guys are wanting virgins for the wrong reasons.
But yes, I totally agree that two virgins would totally stand a better chance together and grow together. Since I am far from being virgin, its not for me. And honestly most virgins would not want a guy like me. I'd be too intimateing to them give my overwhelming experience and they would probably not find that attractive... and it make very uncomfortable. So I would not want to seek something out like that. So I'd choose the non-virgin because I think I'd do better with someone more my speed.
Personally I have seen this question asked several times in different ways... and find the overwhelm response by men in favor of it creepy. Because know most would only be in it for the opportunity to have sex with her, and ultimately take advantage. So definitely seek out virgin men, unless your 100% comfortable and certain he's truly the right one.
zeitgeist057 | 241 opinions shared on Dating topic.
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1 mo
See, the interesting thing about all the guys voting for the virgin is that more than half of them are choosing her because they think of the situation as the virgin is going to then decide to lose her virginity to them.
If you asked, "which is more attractive, everything else is the same, but one girl won't have sex with you and the other will" you're going to get a much different poll result.
Since what guys are reading here is "would you rather have sex with a virgin or a non-virgin, everything else is the same." of course it's skewed that most of them prefer to have sex with a virgin.
Virginity is attractive, just like it's better to be served a piece of cake that hasn't had a bite taken out of it. But if you're not allowed to eat the pristine slice of cake, most people would rather have a slice with a bite taken than no cake at all.
That's what i wanted, i wanted to know if men want to be with virgins or not? i feel like virginity is underrated and it should not be because virginity is a beautiful thang.
thank you. Yes, men would like to be with a virgin but there are two types. The ones who are also virgins and want to stay that way (until marriage, etc) and the others who want an untouched partner, but they definitely want to have sex.
I agree with you, virginity is a beautiful thing, but honestly I think even more beautiful is that first time. That's a big part of the appeal of a virgin to me; I know she's never had sex before and I want it to be a special and memorable event for her. To keep going with the cake analogy, it's great to have a beautiful cake, untouched, it's so pretty. But the real joy is sharing that delicious moment of actually eating it. :)
It is very attractive to me just because of a couple different things first of all she has a bigger backbone than me she's stronger than me and she's better than me because I was 15 and a half 16 years old and I couldn't take it anymore I wanted to feel what it felt like and for girls that can withstand that wanting I think are very strong beautiful individual people the other thing that attracts me to it is that if I'm the first person knowing everything that I know about sex and women did I get to use that moment to show that girl something that is so beautiful and make it so special for her that she will never ever forget it for the rest of her life
I don't really think it's about virginity's attractiveness.
Unless the guy is also a virgin, it's rarely about virginity itself, and more about being given the trust for that "special moment". Basically, it seems to be about ego.
There's an easy way to distinguish the reasoning: Would you rather a virgin chick who's just using you as the first ride of the carousel, or a slut who fucks you and thinks you are the bee's knees, basically forgetting all other dudes?
In practice most men favor the second. Except for virgin dudes who might see them both as equally unappealing...
Like the chick cumming like a bitch in heat. The chick doing that usually does that with every fucking dude and a few times a day with her own means. But for most dudes, being there somehow makes them special, which is pathetically, honestly. Though by itself it's hot, even for someone like me, maybe more for someone like me.
I disagree with the premise that simply being a virgin makes you attractive. Give me the choice of an ugly virgin and an attractive slut, and I'll marry the slut. I prefer the experienced woman even if all else is equal. Sex and intimacy are one of the cornerstones of a good marriage. If it's not really good for both people, the chance someone will cheat is much higher. My first wife was a virgin and she's the only woman that ever cheated on me.
I personally see virgins as too much work. Experienced women already know what to do and what to expect. And are more likely to be faithful in my opinion if you are both sexually compatible.
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AFretiredTXn | 110 opinions shared on Dating topic.
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I would take either, if I was in that situation.
I have always thought about how it would be deflowering a virgin. But as virgin myself at that time, I probably wouldn't have know what to do anyway.
I was 23, when I married and still a virgin, my wife was a divorcee with a child, so no longer in the Virginity category. and I had no concerns about it.
In my opinion in today's Sexual Society, there are probably very very few Virgins on either side.
But that is just the humble opinion of this 71 year old man. I talk a lot of BS, but not really capable of much of any of this activity. LOL
Because they're a virgin, there's a lot they haven't experienced with true physical sex. There's some pleasure involved in discovering what they like about it.
I like when virgins start to masturbate if they've never done it before as well. When they use their fingers or put something in themselves to masturbate with. They feel like it's something new and enjoyable to them and that can be very attractive.
I chose the virgin out of jealousy. If I was in a SERIOUS relationship with a woman, I don't want any jealous men around her just because I'm with her. Or at the same time, get jealous or "jelly" at other men touching her depending on really who that person truly is. If I love or have a crush on her, no "what happens behind closed-doors" for the both of them. But, since sex is different. If I were to jump to her and I've said something to her, and if she said something out of mortal respectful behavior on what happens behind closed-doors. That's only IF she's comfortable with you, though. If she is also a virgin, and I cared for her also as-well, I want to be the first who takes away her virginity and watch her and holding her hand through pregnancy. NO MAN TOUCHES HER, after at any point basically. But with moral respect.
Virginity is one requirement my woman has to have. I'm saving myself so that I can share that intimate experience with one person who won't have anyone else to compare me to. It is quite attractive because it shows that she really cares about who she has such an experience with.
As a virgin myself, virginity is attractive to me, but there would be several other tiebreakers to evaluate between these two people before virginity itself. Out of the girls I loved in the past, the one I loved the most and am currently trying to forget is not a virgin, so it'd be stupid to base my decision on that, unless the lack of such virginity comes with other info that makes it unpleasant for me.
I say LIKLEY the virgin. I mean she might have other things going on as to why I might not choose her.
If she was a Christian it shows she has good morals and values. But that is not to say the other woman has not repented of her past and has moved past it and then I would be with her.
But again I would have to meet both of them
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I don't really care.. On that same token, if she has had 60 sex partners since she became sexually active, I'm just not interested. Having tons of partners, engaging in casual sex for both genders not just women, reduces your ability to pair bond and increases chamces of infidelity and divorce.
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