Yes, I’d do all of the domestic and emotional labor in the relationship
No, I don’t want my partner to expect me to act like his mother
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I know the question is for girls but I do have two since I would like to throw into the pot LOL if a guy is doing all the above why would any girl want to be with him when you were with somebody you become one you work for the both of you you build for the both of you if you can't give support in that manner you can't give support in any manner it means you're only thinking about yourself and that's not a relationship
Why would a person want a partner that actually contributes to the relationship? …. I don’t know why do you think someone would want a partner that contributes domestically and emotionally, instead of having bear that load alone?
Sounds like a deeply unhealthy constellation to be especially since in modern day many women work or could work themselves so guys should be more than just bringing in money. That´s challenging for guys but a guy that´s not challenged gets lazy and it´s not that guys are not emotional or can´t be emotional.
Ever been to a sports event and something that home fans don´t like? Ever been in a traffic situation wear people start swearing? Like tell those guys are stoic.
To prevent a situation where one partner feels he/she is used by the other one I think they both need to contribute in one way that significantly helps the other one and just providing financially isn´t good enough anymore.
That has never happened. So no. I would also have “screened” him on first 2 dates if he is a good fit.
I don’t need him to do all the housework. We just hire people.
We do well emotionally and work well discussing how to live a healthy/good life.
all these can be accomplished if the woman is healthy to form the relationship she wants that fit well for both. She has the greatest power to make that decision
but many woman nowadays are NOT doing their part.
Hell no! I'm not someone elses servant.
Yeah I do like to clean and cook and I do definitely like to cook for others but I for sure am not going to do it all the time and definitely not alone.
Even my little sister already has to help me in the household (with small stuff, appropriate for her age) but yeah nope.
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Emotional support and connection should ALWAYS go both ways. As for domestic duties and other tasks around the house, that can be hashed out among the couple. If the breadwinner (man or woman) is making enough money, they can always outsource tasks like cleaning and cooking to a maid or personal chef. What CAN’T be outsourced is that emotional connection and availability.
I personally think it’s more wholesome for a couple to do tasks around the house together as a team. But, if they have an arrangement where one of them is a designated housewife or househusband, that’s cool too as long as they BOTH enjoy the arrangement and they BOTH are still getting their emotional needs met by each other.
I’m sure some would be ok with it but not me.. I’m dating someone who is meant to be my partner not my financial provider only. You want chores and everything else down for you? Go to your family for that. Everything should be fair with as little burden to one over the other as possible
Unless his job can provide a luxurious lifestyle where I'm allowed to spend money as I please in my free time as a housewife, then heck no.
We both work to buy nice stuff and to take a vacation once or twice a year.
There are plenty of women who love guys only in a provider role. None of the guys I personally know can cook or will help in chores that much. Most of them got married , they have a job earing money and their girls doing other works. I have never seen them struggling with women because they can't cook or do chores.
However I get nasty comments from both men and women because I love cooking and it's a big hobby for me. While wearing apron for cooking , or concerns about recipies perfection , I have been called girly.
Most women don't care if the guy is earing much.
@DizzySoul you don't have to say sorry , I understand. I hate the words"raised right" though. Nobody taught me how to do things , especially my parents. They were more screwed up. Even my father thinks I am girly , as I cook and keep my apartment clean better than our home.
If he's solely providing financially then I wouldn't mind solely handling household duties.
But if he expects me to pay for some things then he should expect me to be expecting him to do some things around the house because then we'd be both working and tired after working hours.
I'd swerve this one as why would he change? His parents clearly let him get away with it so he's not going to change anytime soon. I couldn't be bothered to look after someone who just went to work, came home and that was it - that's a sibling not a partner.
I hope the votes would go for no.. On that same token I would ask you, my wife does not have a job by choice, she stays at home, my wife does most of the chores during the week, I take care of things on the weekend.. I do all of the cooking regardless of day. Would you consider that to be fair?
To my believe this answer is yes by gold digger or those women who don't to live the life where she has to care about money but for women who already married are in need of emotions and physical support they may say no mow or they may cheat or swing and also now women need man when she is pregnant so will want money and his support and family support
Women don’t need a man while she is pregnant. It’s always nice to have a loving supportive partner but it’s not necessary and many do it all on their own.
When I was pregnant I worked, single handedly financially supported my family.
I think you mean "women don't need a man she can see..." unless you ran your own power station, farmed your own food, maintained your own sewers and took all your waste to landfill yourself while pregnant?
Remember, society itself is a gracious gift from men to women. We can revoke it at any point and leave you to face the wild.
Heck, we are already withdrawing from higher education and reducing our tax input to starve women of welfare.
@Smegskull right because you of course do all of those things…… lmao
@Smegskull you do realize that I was talking about a romantic partner right…. Not half of the global population or are you purposefully being dense?
cringe, we have jobs too we don't need to rely on a man for money
@Smegskull or I could just hire a woman, it’s not the 1920s anymore, women can actually have jobs now
@Smegskull lol then you must live with your head under a rock huh….. and what is it that you do that’s so productive hmm?
STEM, Extraction (Oil & Gas and minerals), Utilities (Energy and water), Farming. Are essential functions to society (IT can probably be added to that now too). Women just haven't been taking these career paths.
Coltain did an interesting review video of these figures a few years ago, I think it was called "Equal contribution" or something.
@Smegskull tons of women take those career paths, you know now that we are actually permitted to. And everyone in those fields were primarily educated by women…
@Smegskull There are over 4,492,114 teachers currently employed in the United States. 74.3% of all teachers are women.
@Smegskull I’m talking about educators, not apprenticeships.
That is my point though. Key field education is often done through apprenticeships not teachers. Schools expand children's choices compared to apprenticeships, sure, but they aren't essential to society's daily function.
Same problem with healthcare, it improves individuals' lives sure but again not essential to society's daily function.
@Smegskull so reading and basic mathematics isn’t essential?
Found it. https://youtu.be/j9Yn3i-DMKw
@Smegskull doesn’t change the fact that if it weren’t for the women that taught you to read and write that you wouldn’t be here
@Smegskull but you didn’t…
@Subarugirl but we aren't arguing that peoples lives would be the same or not. We are arguing whether or not society would continue to function.
Nope. Everything is even in my relationships. I don’t expect people to pick up my slack. They shouldn’t “expect” the same from me either. Something needs to get done, it’s handled by who finds it first.
If only 1 person works and provides, it is only right that the other person does EVERYTHING when it comes to taking care of the home and kids.
If they BOTH work, then responsibilities should be divided.
She would be stupid if she did , Relationships are team work , work as a team , not against each other
No, if there's no emotional bond then it will feel like I'm dating a stone wall. Just very cold.
Pretty sure "emotional labor" is just some neomarxist feminist bullshit.
Do you even know what emotional labor is?
That fact you’re looking at Wikipedia is your first problem… try the Oxford dictionary..
sounds more like maid life, not wife life. Never marry a man who sees his wife as a maid.
Hell no, I would not put up with that crap.
They be hitting the HWY
Its share a life together, not a one sided relationship.
What is emotional labour? You mean listening to inane, insipid personal drama without gagging someone? Explaining why their idias built on false premises and fallacies are irrational rather than just telling them "You're wrong now shut up."?
Emotional is the mental activity required to manage or perform the routine tasks necessary for maintaining relationships and ensuring smooth running of a household or process, typically regarded as an unappreciated or unacknowledged burden…..
So in other words being a contributing member of a healthy relationship…
Isn't the whole point of routine tasks that they don't require mental activity?
This sounds like a self inflicted wound... I don't consider the labour I spent building a computer unappreciated when we could have just bought one. I chose to make it burdensome so there is no reason to expect my partner to also bare that unnecessary burden.
…. Everything requires mental activity…. Even routine tasks…
Yes that all counts as mental activity….. if it requires a brain then it is mental activity..
I didn’t make that claim you asked what emotional labor is and I gave you the definition…
It’s not MY definition, it’s THE definition.
Emotional labor includes and is not limited to actually learning your partner. Both emotional availability, working on toxic traits, learning one another's communication styles and love languages. Learning about both past, how they were raised, things the enjoy, their brain, etc? Can your significant other consider you their best friend? How about vise versa? Can they come to you with a problem whether financial, emotional, physical?
If it's too much of a burden to do these things? You either don't actually care as deeply as you thought and you're wasting one another's times, or you don't need a relationship.
Nobody needs or wants to feel like they're too much or a burden to their partner when they need to release anything.
"learning your partner." - i. e. Familiarity which is mutual and effortless.
"emotional availability" - isn't this an expectation of labour on your partner (deal with my irrationality) rather than a labour onto itself?
"working on toxic traits" - this would require large scale change in a person, people aren't housing projects, if you don't like who they are, you made a poor decision, that is not on them.
"learning one another's communication styles" - Familiarity again.
"love languages" - this sounds like hippie spirit animal style BS for once again, Familiarity.
"Learning about both past" - Isn't the current morality "my past doesn't matter, how dare you judge me"?
"how they were raised" - i. e. Culture, generally dating outside your culture is unlikely to succeed.
"things the enjoy" - I don't know your experience but generally I find men make their interests more obvious than women do so this would be emotional labour for women over men how?
"their brain, etc" - What?
"consider you their best friend?" - no, these are separate roles, trying to group them into one person is laziness.
"Can they come to you with a problem..." - problem solving is intellectual not emotional.
Nope. You bring nothing to the relationship. No warmth, no love. Nothing.
You're describing my father. He's the reason I've daddy issues.
I wouldn't want to date a guy like him. No way in hell.
Ooohh Gosh emotions eww Start acting emotional I may throw on a mask and act as if the girl doesn’t exist.
I don’t mind doing domestic chores, that’s a woman’s place
That’s an adults place….
@Subarugirl okay, yes he should help
@Jennz6 How do I find a woman like you I'll pay all the bills but I hate cleaning
@Bklynbadboy12 all over the place, they are called gold diggers or mail order brides lol
@Bklynbadboy12 Find a submissive girl like me
@Subarugirl Shut up! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Jennz6 That's easier said then done
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