Did gentleman die off?

[cth2188]

I'm asking for a friend? Seemingly nowadays, guys want to rush 9/10 I'm gone of a guy keeps asking me something I said I don't do. What's the deal with modern men? [ I don't date modern men ]. It irritates me with dating nowadays..

This is not my scenario down below
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Example :
Girl : Talks to a guy online.
Guy : Can we exchange numbers?
Girl : Sure [ Exchanges numbers]
Guy : Chats with girl after 24 hours [ Initates meeting girl at his place]
Girl : Meets guy less then 48-72 hours.
Guy : It's a date at his place they Netflix and chill.

What's wrong with this as a traditional woman.

🚫No courting involved.
🚫She's meeting a total stranger at his house and barely knows him [ Safety risk, who meets people at their houses ]
🚫 Nextfil and chill isn't a date not for a formal meet and greet.
✅️A man may initiate a formal date, but the woman feels comfortable preceeding moving forward with the invitation under her digression normally after the getting to know stage.

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Why the sudden rush to date?

[Lionman95]

I would say gentlemen are a dieing species mainly because back in the day being a gentleman was the way to go. Women expected it men didn´t question it since it was the only way to get a woman.

Nowadays it´s dieing out because there are other options. Guys ask themselves why should I pay about 200/300 dollars or euros, time and energy and effort for series of dates to get a girl if I also can get a woman way quicker and cheaper?

The problem is the change of modern daying culture that guys that invest way less often times get to have sex quicker or have success with more women that seems more pleasing than our gentleman guy that goes on dates with one woman at a time figuring out at date 4 or 5 that it´s not working.

From a guy´s perspective the dating culture leads to frustration for more guys that call themselves gentlemen than guys that obviously lead a bad boy imaged life. It may not go well for long but it´s the visible success for the guys that call themselves gentleman struggling with dating which makes being a gentleman less attractive.

We live in a rushed culture in every part of life. Many people can´t leave the house without their phone and get worried if they don´t have any notifications on their phone. Why should it be the different in dating?

Since the upcoming of online-dating things get rushed even more and women as well like to do things quicker. Times changed in a way that a gentleman is often seen as wimp or pushover or is qualified as a nice guy.

I completely agree though that I also would get suspicious if a possible partner would invite me to their place right away. That would go too quickly for me, too, not to mention how early it´s all about sex.

But some people get to have sex early nowadays so it seems like a possible way to go and guys also go by the example of other guys. Meaning if all guys I know had sex on the third date and it´s reasonable to expect sex after three dates...

[cth2188]

I understand I'm nkt interested in modern men nowadays

[cth2188]

Not..

[Zolly99999]

Nope... I'm still here

[cth2188]

OK that's good 🪡 in a haystack.. I have my peace of mind.

[cth2188]

Dating is too complicated for me

[cth2188]

Good luck Zolly

[Zolly99999]

@cth2188 thanks.. I know you will find someone..
Brw I always try to be a gentleman... It surprises women sometimes lol

[cth2188]

Noo I don't want too I'm back in hiding where I was 10 years ago

[cth2188]

Thanks again

[cth2188]

No more to dating. Closed that chapter in 2014

[Zolly99999]

Why are you in hiding?

[cth2188]

I don't deal with dating anymore times have changed

[cth2188]

The way how dating is , hiw it's approached, etc.. I stopped dating in 2014 and never looked back.

[Zolly99999]

I feel sad for you.. I'm sure there is a perfect someone out there for you.

[cth2188]

No need to feel sad for me dating is toxic and not worth it anymore. I don't have time to weed through the dating world anymore to find decent. It was the best decision ever

[Zolly99999]

As long as you are happy who am I to say anything.. I wish you the best 🤗

[cth2188]

Thanks been fine almost 9 years and no regrets being single as I am now

[Zolly99999]

I'm glad to hear you are happy.. 😁😁

[cth2188]

Thanks I am

[cth2188]

I know it's a sad position for decent men and women... good luck Zolly maybe I'll change my mind

[cth2188]

One day... I don't know

[Zolly99999]

@cth2188 I really hope you find what you are looking for.. you deserve to be happy. I wish you all the best.😁

[cth2188]

Thanks ❤️ but can't deal with this generation when it comes to dating. I'm an old soul and traditional.. I don't date online and live a life of morals, standards, and integrity. Dating is oversexualized nowadays with no morals.

[cth2188]

God sent this time Zolly if meant

[Zolly99999]

I know what you are saying.. for me I haven't found anyone that is loyal yet.

[cth2188]

Same.. it's best to let God handle this one

[MrCommodore]

I've experienced girls who were seeking to rush things, fast track things, its very off-putting.

However the key difference is that the girl is seeking to fast track from initial conversation to relationship, while I suspect guys inviting a girl over to his place is seeking to fast track to sex.

[cth2188]

Bingo I don't meet men at their houses period

[cth2188]

If we can't meet up for coffee or to talk why are we meeting at each other's place?

[MrCommodore]

Yeah I don't do hookups or seek those types of meetings, not in the early days. People who come on too strong make me suspicious and generally make me red card them.

[cth2188]

How I feel when a guy is pressuring me to meet him quickly and I barely know him... I would expect that maybe after courting and dating a bit /more exclusive state

[MrCommodore]

First dates/meetings in person are better at public places, I think some place like a zoo is perfect, where its very public and safe, but relaxed and plenty to talk about if conversation is dry.

[MrCommodore]

I'm not a fan of messaging multiple women and dating multiple women, I think that is a major issue with modern online dating, too many options and it's unhealthy. I think people should remain exclusive with each date until they move on.

[cth2188]

I don't meet men online... yes I meet men publicly

[MrCommodore]

Dating is still a minefield

[cth2188]

I'm out of it.. I don't have time navigate it I'm sorry. I don't have the energy for it.

[MrCommodore]

Bad experiences? Yeah I don't do it anymore, I have no interest in hookups.

[cth2188]

I remember when dating was fun and exciting now it's about sex, rushing , being selfish, inconsiderate, and playing games

[cth2188]

I don't do hook ups I've been celibate 7 years.. it's more along the line I don't have the energy for it anymore.

[MrCommodore]

Yeah its definitely unhealthy, it's become a haven't for hookups or misleading people.

[cth2188]

Yeah , when you've been single as long as I have been it becomes nothing when your single.. the idea of dating is nothing..

[MrCommodore]

Wow 7 years! That's a long time, but understandable.

[cth2188]

I never make it to first base with guys ( dating or meeting up ) things fizzle out because the guy wants sex or isn't seeking anything else. I don't waste my time and he never meets me.

[cth2188]

I will stay celibate and most likely single.. even beyond that I don't date because a lot of guys are vaccinated.. or their lying about taking the vaccine... either way dating us dangerous. All kinds of stds are out people are catching a lot. I take pride in protecting my body..

[cth2188]

Is... hearing vaccinated people are catching stds. I could never date anyone vaccinated... another challenge I'm up against.

[MrCommodore]

I'm not against sexor wanting sex, but I agree that people seem to rush to it now, skip taking proper time to understand if they like the person and see them as a potential partner.

[ChiTown33]

No. They're just where all the ladies are.

Unfortunately so many women are ok with men not being gentlemen now-a-days. Women used to shun men that didn't act right. Now they give them a pass. I think many women actually like to compete with men now-a-days to be outrageous. So many women here actually proudly display how loose they are.

[cth2188]

I know.. it's horrible.. now men understand why women like me are just single

[LazerBean]

Since good guys are so short handed, they usually have no trouble finding a good girl and end up marrying pretty early on. That's just my personal observation.

[cth2188]

I know I'm dome trying just getting back into dating and left its not worth it

[cth2188]

Exclusively when you been single 9 years

[TroyDT]

I was wild in my "not yet legal to drink years" but since I've become the "if she wants sex on the first few dates I lose her contact info" type. I'm not going to give myself to a lady that I am not even sure I like or share interests with.

[SaltyBeaches]

I'm pretty sure gentlemen died off when ladies died off.

[cth2188]

I don't know who died off truthfully.. I'm so glad I'm out the dating arena

[Sixgunsound]

Netflix and chill is code for sex.

[cth2188]

I know just like a guy asking a woman to come to his place to meet up she barely knows him

[Kelly6]

Yes long gone

[cth2188]

Bingo I know I'm not crazy. Thanks for this confirmation

[cth2188]

Right when I left in 2014 when men stopped courting dating declined

[cth2188]

It's just one big headache now

[Pot8o]

What do you have to offer that makes you worth courting?

My guess is nothing.

[cth2188]

Dealing with men of today , I don't date because i already know how most are

[cth2188]

Dating isn't on the table

[cth2188]

Not for me... Zero option

[Pot8o]

Then what's the problem?

[cth2188]

I asked a question because I wanted too

[Heolurt]

Nope but they did retire since no female actually wants a gentleman.

[cth2188]

Wanted to date not anymore

[cth2188]

I don't have the energy to even invest in dating