Agree or Disagree: The men that women generally want have access to 80% of women?

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Anonymous · Accepted Answer

All men have access to women
All women have access to men
Sadly you have to know what category you belong rich poor ugly pretty fit fat small tiny tall large.
It’s like a old men who’s 74 looking for a 27 year sold women. Like hello you have to wake your brain cells and learn that sadly with all my respect you can't have anything you want in this life. Maybe this men can attract a 70 years old women.

You have to sit down and ask your self how do you view yourself ; if you think you are that dumb weak ass then you will attract such people.
It’s not my fault a guy who considers himself he is at the “ugly undesired category” doesn’t catch me. That’s his fault he thinks that way.
The door is never closed , you brain closes it. And I’m not here to work as a mental counselor.
Women too don’t settle because you are let’s say soo obese and you allow any men! No why? Like move your ass lose some weight I don't know. You have to fight for your dreams. That’s what life is about.
Don’t be stupid. If you are then ofc others will play with you like a tennis ball up and down left and right
Be the racket if you dare.. test yourself don’t give a fuck. The world is yours don’t live your life with this qs agree or disagree it’s all matrix opinions

jennifer_bloom · Accepted Answer

High status guys are usually not freebie opportunities for women - girls have to make big sacrifices to be with them. I've heard of girls who work 14 hour days to impress their rich boyfriends so they can get a proposal from them. I've heard of girls who maintain bodies under 110 pounds and get PhD's while their husbands are obese, they give up all their friends and previous connections and wait a decade for a marriage proposal, from a guy that is not good looking to begin with. I've heard of gorgeous girls who marry very poor guys cause they want a man with a good heart who will never mistreat them, and then they have to be the bread winner who makes most of the money in the relationship. it's not an easy choice - big sacrifices have to be made.

Unit1 · Accepted Answer

It is easy and convenient to believe that.

This guy ("six nine") is seen in his video as the man, that supposedly "80% of women" want and are after (we know it's the money, that made it happen).

https://www.youtube.com/embed/xdVknLqOM9A

However I asked girls about him and I found none of them girls are into him ("six nine").

Just like how most girls ARE NOT into Brad Pitt or Christian Grey or Jeff Bezos.

I heard the girls. Some girls fancy Vito Scaletta from Mafia 2. Some girls fancy anime boys, who can magically fly and protect the lady. Some girls fancy the serial murderer called the Shape (Myers Michael). Another example was evident with Jeremy Meeks. Are they one of the top 20% of men? And if so, then who decides it? The majority 80% of women? I haven't found these 80% of women universally agreeing to which men are among the top 20% of wanted men - other than what was reported about Jeremy Meeks.

What might be most possible is that for one girl some guy - to her or in her opinion - is among the top 20% of men.

Guy13 · Accepted Answer

In an era of optics that is undefinable historically, the “pretty people” still have issues. The Nerd or Average Guy who demonstrates a respectful and pleasing attitude, ability to accomplish, and grooms does much better in this area.

Granted access either professionally or women is enhanced, however, rarely does it overcome “I can not be with a man that is prettier than I am.”
This is quickly realized as your “dates” accompany you over 3 months. Women one encounter can be a little predatory and clear in their wants. Where do you think Psycho B- originates.
And, if you look at another 🍑, you are done. Anyway, this is counterproductive to long-term relationship.

The guy with access must have plain things in his personality, such as, fix 💩 at his place, her place, or even the things her business or housing landlord can’t seem to get too. Priority defined is paramount.
If the guy, butt ugly to pretty, has nothing but words, shallowness, or eye candy going on…he is Done. ✅ off the list.

Avicenna · Answer

I don't think that's quite accurate because most women don't like to share. A lot of women assume a guy is promiscuous if the women find him very attractive, i. e., they assume other women feel the same and he's banging multiple women. It's sometimes surprising how open women are about this, although they usually couch it more neutrally, like asking how many dates he's been on recently. This is especially the case with women my age since the playing field has already tilted in men's favor by then.

ZackBan · Answer

I think it's men who have fallen off in terms of self value.

Used to be most men were hard working men, who know who they are and what they want, capable of authority and leadership which are traits women naturally gravitate toward.

But today we have a weakened generation. Men who grew up without much of a struggle for anything, never had to take charge in their lives and when they do pretend like they do it repulses women who can smell the fake masculinity.

So yes most women are into a minority but that's because that minority is the only remnant of real men in the world.

If I got anything to say about it it would be "stop worrying about what the 20% is doing and start worrying about what you need to do to become a 20% man"

Weapon77 · Answer

That's true in my experience. And it's technically fine, but it only accounts for like 20% or less of men, so the other 80% of men are left in terrible headspaces, and many of then were already unstable. It's dangerous for society really. Those guys are so much easier to radicalize by crazy people.

And even with me, I have so much trouble finding a good girl that it makes me wish I lived in a time where I wouldve gone on campaigns or voyages to other lands to explore or raid or something where I would've found a wife easily. I also mightve died lol But hey, pros and cons.

The_Shadow_Dweller · Answer

Hypergamy is real.

Women want a man who is equal to or better to them.

"His money is our money. But her money is her money."

Clearly from the finance point of view, the guy is contributing to the relationship more than the girl. But still girls feel like the relationship should be 50/50.

When you are stuck with that notion, you have no right and no chance of a 50/50 relationship. Money speaks. Just as the chair speaks, not the person sitting on that chair.

Women want the top percent men. Clearly these men have choices. And they get away with a girl as they know the next one is already there. They treat them like shit.

And then women come on the internet and say like all men are bad and not good and whatnot.

Hypergamy is very real. Women have double standards here. Not all, some, but in majority.

Cassie88 · Answer

Why 80% and not 72%? Or 60%? And what about the other 20% of women? No, I don't believe this. It seems to me like just another number that was plucked out of the air by someone who just wanted to make a point.

NathanDavis · Answer

sure... all of four billion women in this world 80% of them, just waiting for a call... lmao

RationalMale · Answer

Agreed. Women only really "see" a small percent of men and don't notice others. So the vast majority of women are then hoping to date the top 15-20% of men--I believe Okcupid had data backing this up on how a tiny fraction of men got the majority of female messages. It's akin to if guys only were interested in fitness gym instructor girls and thought visible abs on women were basic and easy.

Women then are shocked when these top tier men who have a ton of female attention are not hesitant to cheat or date other girls or dump them.

bkcutie11 · Answer

Not necessarily. It depends on, if those women consider what most women want. What demographic your talking

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

I think there's some truth to that. I think most humans generally desire the best including women.

Just like you desire a beautiful, youthful, smart and good woman, women also desire what they perceive to be the best in a man which is good, rich, successful, handsome with high social status.

The reality is our ideals don't become reality because most people in this case men aren't handsome, rich, successful and high social status.

D_Bone_Steak · Answer

I agree... give me a few weeks with the weights and I generally get what I want from women... face to face wise. If they have boyfriend, they cheat. Two chicks and they both know about you, they'll settle for sharing. It's just facts.

Msputiton · Answer

In America alone there are 164.8 million. For a man to have access to 80% means he has access to 131.8 million women. Now you know and i know. Ain't nobody getting around like that🥴

Jaximus-Lion · Answer

What people see on social media, TV shows and movies shows that women likes these kind of men while in reality is the largest percentage of women like to be next to a nice man that likes them back, GLOBALLY. Exactly like porn, it barley real, BARLEY

Chazmatazz269 · Answer

Absolutely agree. I’m a straight dude and i would fuck the kinds of men that most women want! Ell oh ell!
I don’t understand why people continue to perpetuate these myths and lies about what women want. The debate isn’t even academic. There is little evidence to the contrary. The only way this becomes honestly debatable is if you change the percentage to ninety-nine or one-hundred.

normalice · Answer

Depends on what "access" means. If it means such men can sleep with any of these women (which is the narrative most incels tell each other for some victimhood), no. But if that just means they can have a conversation with them, probably - but then so too could the incels if they could wean themselves off their addiction to victimhood.

StrawberryMoon · Answer

Ability to create initial attraction doesn't directly translate in ability to actually have a meaningful relationship with another human being..

Maybe from someone's perspective women are a dime a dozen and he can have all the sex in the world... but that doesn't directly translate in a meaningful relationship.

Especially if he doesn't treat women well even if women are attracted to him initially, over time they will realise he is not all that great as he seemed to be and probably leave him.

And most guys that are capable of creating loving and meaningful relationships with women are really popular but because they already have a meaningful relationship the outside attention doesn't make that much of a difference for them whether they have a lot of clout or not.

oddwaffle · Answer

Data shown that women tend to swipe only to 5% of the men on dating platform. So you can definitely say these 5% of the men got access to most of the women. Or at least a strong opportunity to access to the women.

The remaining 95% of the men swipe right on anything identify as women and just wait and see.

FilmGuy93 · Answer

That's pretty true, yeah, but it's not like those men are super accessible for most women.

Pohjolan · Answer

80%? Over half of US women are married so that would require that 3/5 married women are willing to cheat on their partner. Not buying it.

andreasderjuengere · Answer

Nowadays it has become confusing what a woman is. You know... too many freeriders :) According to Pareto 80 percent sounds right - but unfortunately only for 20 percent of all men.

Anonymous · Answer

Yup! Here’s why:

OddBeMe · Answer

I don’t think so. Given I’m certainly not in the higher status of what women “want” per se. But I don’t even think that’s defineable.

What are the traits of these particular men? Wealth? Muscles? I’d say most husbands out there don’t have these….

inhua · Answer

agreed. roughly 20% of men live in 1st world countries. 80% of women live in 2nd and 3rd world countries. a man from a 1st world country can change the life of a woman from a 2nd or 3rd world country hence the top 20% of men are attractive.

OfMiceandMen · Answer

Not necessarily, the guy maybe a douche and quickly gets a name for himself. In big cities he may get away with it for awhile, but in smaller towns, the girls talk.

LiamJHayden · Answer

I hear this a lot, but even if it's 100% true I can't do anything about it, so I'll just keep swinging and take the hits I occasionally get.

Anonymous · Answer

Not true at all. This is a misconception about guys because one of the determining factors of what makes a guy valuable to women is "how in demand they are". It doesn't actually add any more value to them but in societal perception and especially to women it does. And unfortunately in game of dating perception is much of the game. Because women rely heavily on "feelings" in thier selection process as opposed to actual facts. In short if a guys is wanted by 10 other women to a women he holds more value to her whether he has any real value at all. This is why so many routinely make so many bad choices before they actual make a good one. Thier whole selection process is flawed.

PainusNdeeAnus · Answer

Yes that’s why high status men don’t complain about dating they are literally dripping in bitches

Keishio · Answer

Answer is pretty much in the statement. Women generally want the guy that most women generally want. 'Agree or disagree'

Razp_Sorbet · Answer

Women want a pretty vast variety of men so sure.  Honestly If men are struggling to find someone the issue is with them not anyone else.

SnowedIn · Answer

Coach, please don't tell my wife that!

Anonymous · Answer

Yeah sure, and men generally want the 20% of women they don’t deserve 💀 chill

Orion76 · Answer

Until she don’t want you anymore. Be faithful but maintain your qualifications.

Anonymous · Answer

Yeah and the women most men want have access to 99% of men, so why would they pick you?

Anonymous · Answer

Nah, but they will date with a lot more women before settling down.

This_Is_My_Opinion8 · Answer

Another incel myth.

CAPTAIN-OBVIOUS · Answer

I don’t understand why women are in denial of this fact

Wish4UrB00ty · Answer

Maybe not 80% but yeah generally!

TJ1892 · Answer

Sorry but that dosent even sound feasible to be true.

Anonymous · Answer

I usually go after the guys women don’t want and it always bites me in my ass LOL

spartan55 · Answer

80% may be on the low side.

humanearth · Answer

I don't even understand the question

LemiaOfThunder · Answer

Strongly agree.

CuriousMufuxka · Answer

More like 50.

Guardian45 · Answer

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