Dating rules for men? Give me a break?

[Anonymous]

Sure everyone courts each other. That’s why it’s called dating. If I’m seeing someone and we aren’t serious, she’s not sure about me and wants to keep her options open, I get it. But when I want to keep my options open, have sex partners whichever, that’s bad. I get lashed out at. So why do we have to put our lives on hold till she makes a choice? 🧐

[Summeroflove]

Everyone is different and has different wants as well as needs. There isn’t a one size fits all approach to relationships I mean real relationships…. Not a ham sandwich. Not sleeping around it’s easy to get laid but building a genuine connection takes time, it takes rejection, it takes rejecting, it takes building that bond with another human being.

Some people are narcissistic it’s just the same as men who are man whores but want to marry a virgin some people have double standards that it’s okay for them to do something not you. That’s a major red flag that means you need to run.

Figure out what you want. But sleeping around will never get you anywhere but misery. A lot of people fuck around until they knock someone up/get knocked up and just marry each other.

[Zack-Bann]

girls usually “keep their options open” if you failed to make an impression


You shouldn’t settle.


Either it works and she choses to give you a real chance or it doesn’t an you don’t waste time dealing with post modern std carousels

[OneViewpoint]

@Zack-Bann,

Wow, let me catch you up. Women keep options on the back burner ALL THE TIME. Think yours is different? Think Again Zack. That's what the friend zone is. It's the backup corral in case she needs options in a hurry. Hungry simps will hang around forever with very little investment of time and effort.

[777GgG]

@OneViewpoint not all females are like that... If entraining a man he's the only man I'm entertaining. If we've gone on three dates in a relatively short span than you are my focus. There is no back burner for me. Guess that makes em crazy?

[Zack-Bann]

@OneViewpoint,

Yeah the friend zone back burner is a real thing but it’s not the same as what the asker is suggesting which is that girls will actively date and sleep with other men while they date and get to know you.

Sure many do that. But you can always tell and stay away from those.
Chose the ones who do invest in one person at a time when it comes to dating

The only way the sad pathetic losers who live their lives in the friend zone become a threat is if you let them by being insecure about them

And yes the “perfect girl” is the one that can see through the bullshit and refuse to drag around a dishonest leech. But that’s far too rare for someone to realistically expect it

[Crazyced]

@777GgG Might not be all, but the study number on this are scary. And that was 10 years ago. I'd hate to see the updated stats.
https://youtu.be/swGbcwUyCKQ?si=lWBpz_vpheqZWps3

[777GgG]

@Crazyced okay. But we're relying on something from Fox News?

[Crazyced]

@777GgG No, we are relying on scientific studies analyzed by a Dr with decades experience in neurology. The TV channel is simply a medium (although it's a good question, I wonder why she wasn't invited to speak about this on other channels that I could see). Would you dismiss reports of snow in Texas because the clip is from Fox news?

[777GgG]

@Crazyced I definitely question it. I've seen new weather reports from my own city that have been a little goofy.
Did a quick google search of her and from what I can tell she isn't a married woman herself. I'm also wonder how many women she actually questioned and where she found them.
If I ask 10 women from a bar if they drink heavily the percentage will probably be higher than if I pick them from a bible study group.

[Crazyced]

@777GgG What does being married have to do with what other women self report on a scientific survey? You do appreciate that she didn't run the study, only read and interpreted the findings for television right? I mean it's quite clear from the video. Understanding what's being communicated is kinda important. Makes me wonder what else you missed.

[MoonFace2]

I personally only date one man at a time. But I don’t regard it as cheating to date offer people too. As long as you’re not sleeping with any of them. That’s when things are serious and you should make a choice.

I’ve met a guy and we’re courting each other currently. We’ve both had sex lives in the past. We figure that we want to get to know each other as people and have a steady foundation for a romantic relationship. I think where one or both of you are falling down is that you are more interested in satisfying your own sexual needs than in building a foundation for a relationship where all the sex stuff comes later.

[Asker]

In my view, unless I’m in a committed relationship, I’m free to sleep with who and whenever I want. Life is too short. Playing the waiting game is tiresome

[MoonFace2]

My married friend says unless you’re married, nothing is for certain.

[Asker]

Nothing in life is certain. But I pledge loyalty once committed.

[MoonFace2]

Fair enough. We have different approaches. That’s all 😊

[Asker]

I’m fair to towards someone I’m seeing, if she’s wants to explore other dudes, fair game as I’m gonna explore

[Vegasrunner]

@moonface2 Think your misunderstanding the point.

[777GgG]

If she has those "rules" then she should be following them too. Not saying they're fair, but I can say she probably has those "rules" because she's been hurt before.

Personally: if I'm only talking to you I expect the same. If I'm still agreeing to get drinks/dinner with other men then then you can do the same. If I'm kissing mother people you can too. I can't expect a man or woman to follow my "rules" if I don't follow them myself.

[Asker]

Thank you. This one is a winner

[Finchie40]

That’s her problem not yours , if she doesn’t want to settle then you don’t have to either , it needs to be the same both ways. Tell her if she wants to keep her options opened , you are doing the same

[naartjie]

That’s why it’s important to find someone who thinks like you.
Personally I will only talk to one person at a time even if we aren’t official. If he’s talking to other people I’ll cut him off the second I find out. I don’t roll like that nor would I tolerate it for a split second.

[Asker]

I think it’s hypocritical that a woman gets upset that I court other women when at the same she does. So men has to wait while a woman courts?

[naartjie]

That’s exactly why I opened with saying, and I’ll repeat, “what’s why it’s important to find someone who thinks like you.”
Personally, I only talk/date one person at a time so I wouldn’t continue with someone the very second I know they’re talking to others.
People are allowed to have boundaries.
Again, it’s why it’s extremely important to talk/date someone who is more like you.

[RavVid]

I think there is benefit in treating potentially serious partners seriously. Scenario: I go on a first date with a girl and she agrees to a second date a week later.

If I knew that she had been on six dates in between our two dates, then I am at least going to down grade her because she is clearly not regarding me seriously.

If I knew she hadn't been seeing anybody else than the reverse would apply.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Seeing somone when you aren't serious is a waste of time.
Having casual sex is too much risk.
Having multiple sex partners is too much hassle and risk.
If you feel that investing your time into one partner is putting your life in hold, then relationships are not for you.

She should need to follow the same principles though.

[MzAsh]

You don’t have to. Just know there are other men willing, and those men are the often preferred.

[Asker]

Wait hold up…. So I’m not allowed to pursue other women, but I have to wait for a woman to choose between me and 4 other dudes? Fuck that, if she’s upset I won’t wait because she’s indecisive, not my fault

[MzAsh]

You’re allowed to pursue other women. It just doesn’t necessarily mean she’ll be around you.

[Asker]

I’m fine with that. I don’t associate with undecisive lunatics that need physiological help. Weird emotions females have

[MzAsh]

It may not be she’s indecisive, it might be that she just wants to date around and get to know different people.

[Asker]

What if I want to? You said it’s preferred I dont date around while she dates around. Why would she get upset about me doing it when she’s doing it? Makes no sense

[MzAsh]

She doesn’t necessarily need to be upset by it. It’s just that women are going to choose their best option.

[Asker]

Either way I have no time for undecisive stuff

[MzAsh]

Are you currently in a relationship?

[Asker]

If I was then I wouldn’t speak about this

[Asker]

Just had a lot of bad experiences with women. Treated harshly

[Vegasrunner]

@MzAsh A man that waits on a women is a loser and is no competition to HV men. Asker is posting a great question that is being ignored. He's keeping his options open the same way she is, the fact that other guys are willing to wait isn't relevant at all. In fact if their not having sex w/ her it raises his value by being willing to walk away.

[MzAsh]

Men love to act like waiting on a woman makes them weak, but women aren’t choosing dudes who treat them like a chore. The guys who are willing to invest their time and attention are the ones who are preferred. Walking away isn’t some power move if the only reason you’re doing it is because you don’t like that terms.

[Vegasrunner]

@MzAsh It's one of the biggest signs of weakness a man can show and opens him up to be taken advantage of by Alphas like me. Men chose who get relationships, and who women "choose" isn't relevant. Any many willing to waste time and resources to give a women free attention is only doing so because he can't bang the women he wants. Walking away from a woman isn't a move at all its simply common sense used by men that understand their value. The Opp owner is doing exactly what I advise men to do when a women isn't behaving. Walk away and go get another one. Women are just a numbers game, and if they aren't banging you have little to know value for a man.

[MzAsh]

Worthy men don’t see women as a numbers game, because they don’t have to. They build connections with women who see them as the only choice.

Because at the end of the day, a man’s role is to pursue the one and only woman he wants. Women are the ones with the options—they choose. And they choose the men who actually show up… the ones who are intentional, consistent, and worth investing in.

The guys constantly barking about “walking away” are usually the ones who didn’t get picked in the first place and just need to convince themselves it’s a win.

[Vegasrunner]

@MzAsh Lol, I think I see your confusion. Luke most women you fail to understand a man's relationship goals. Women have options to get banged but very few when it comes to getting a man they love, respect and admire to committ only to them. As they age these options only decrease.
That's an interesting statement, if I was the @asker if the original question I would ask myself "How would she know this"? If a man walks away from a women, however could the women possibly know his true motive?

[Asker]

What if she’s playing the field even though we’re talking? If she plays, the I play. It’s fair

[Sun_Kim-Ai]

Just be clear about it that you don't want to waste time. Keeping options open is a two way street, don't get put on the backburner.

[Nikki1989]

There are no rules, just preferences that everyone has.

[ItsJill]

Just move on from such a person. She's not honest nor transparent.

[slatyb]

You don't. There are no rules. If a woman makes unacceptable demands, stop seeing them.

[TheStaleMarshmellow]

The rule here would be. You snooze you lose.

[Anonymous]

she makes rules for the beta and breaks rules for the alpha

[Anonymous]

doesn't matter, men will always be stuck with the role of having to initiate courtship.

[Anonymous]

We don't. Simply move on from her if she is not willing to give you a straight answer.