Having nice things and money isn’t a red flag on its own. But a woman whose obsessed with trends and designer things it screams insecurity. She needs to show her value through material things. Also, if she has nothing to show for it.
Nothing to show such as if she’s working menial jobs, didn’t get a inheritance, and somehow she has all this stuff. Either she’s doing online stuff for money, she’s just blowing all the money she has, and/or she has dudes buying it all for her. Again…. All red flags. Someone who will use you for money not for love.
4 moWhat is the fixation on user women? Let's be cautious of everybody.
As for trends , they are wasting money because it can go out as fast as it comes in or back around. Also a majority of women want to look put together for themselves and getting seen positively is just a bonus to society. Also some women know how to save money.
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Just asking questions I’ve asked some on men too.
I agree. Some people trust too fast and keep getting burned. Then jump the other extreme of hating everyone and never trusting anyone - 4 mo
It just depends. Some people can’t manage money and are simply insecure
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@summeroflove sure I agree... most people need a pass on that because it should be the number one mandatory skill taught (non elective) we have to pass when getting married. At least for the future of the family unit.
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Yeah. Look…. If two people are honest with one another. If someone says they’re marrying you for financial stability and someone else sahs they’re marrying gor XYZ…
But most people aren’t honest. Because they know the kind of people they want would reject them. If they said what they really think - 4 mo
Straight men don’t date “everybody” they date women
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4 moI certainly would think guys would see this and avoid it.
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3.9K opinions shared on Dating topic. DU-UGH. Of course it is.
This gal at church wears head to toe designers (for example). Clashing designers looks trashy. No one taught her this? Put ONE designer thing with something simple OR have one designer's full outfit on. Don't wear a pile of freaking logos at the same time... 🙄 🙄 🙄
Anyway that is an obvious "gold-digger" flag... stay away from the chicks with the excessive logo obsession.
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Yeah I agree….. many people use material items to fill a void. They are insecure…. And they just think the more money they wear the better.
Then again…. Who knows maybe it’s just stuff people gave her and she throws it on. But if she has a hoity toity attitude pray for her.
3.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. In most cases yes it is if she thinks her shit doesn’t stink and isn’t independent, meaning she uses others for her advantage, she isn’t relationship material, she is just sex material
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u 4 moIf a woman is obsessed with having expensive possessions, I will always wonder whether she is with me because of love or because I spend money on her.
10 Reply Materialism in a partner, defined as an excessive focus on acquiring wealth, possessions, or status symbols, can indeed be considered a red flag in relationships, but it’s not an absolute deal-breaker. It depends on the degree, context, and how it interacts with other traits. Let’s break this down factually, drawing from psychological research and relationship studies.
What Does “Too Materialistic” Mean?
Materialism isn’t inherently bad; it’s a spectrum. Psychologists like Tim Kasser, author of The High Price of Materialism (2002), describe it as prioritizing extrinsic goals (money, image, fame) over intrinsic ones (personal growth, relationships, community). When it’s “too” much, it might manifest as:
- Constantly equating happiness with luxury items, designer brands, or financial success.
- Making decisions based primarily on monetary gain, like choosing social circles or activities for status.
- Expecting gifts, lavish dates, or financial support as proof of affection.
Research from the American Psychological Association (APA) shows that highly materialistic individuals often report lower life satisfaction and higher rates of anxiety and depression. A 2014 meta-analysis in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology reviewed 753 studies and found materialism negatively correlates with well-being, partly because it fosters endless comparison and dissatisfaction.
Why It Could Be a Red Flag in Relationships
Impact on Relationship Satisfaction: Studies indicate materialism can erode partnership quality. For instance, a 2018 study in the Journal of Family and Economic Issues analyzed couples and found that when one partner is highly materialistic, it predicts lower marital satisfaction and higher conflict levels. Materialists may view relationships transactionally, for example, “What can I get out of this?”, leading to shallow connections. Research from the University of Illinois (2011) showed materialistic people are more likely to have unstable relationships because they prioritize self-enhancement over intimacy. Financial Conflicts: Excessive materialism often leads to poor financial habits. The National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) has linked high materialism to increased debt and spending beyond means. In a relationship, this could mean pressure on the partner to fund lifestyles, resentment over unequal contributions, or arguments about money. A 2020 survey by the Financial Planning Association found that financial disagreements are the top predictor of divorce, and materialism amplifies this risk. Emotional and Psychological Effects: Materialistic individuals may struggle with empathy or long-term commitment. A 2016 study in Personality and Individual Differences found materialism is associated with narcissism and lower emotional intelligence, making it harder to build trust or handle setbacks. If a partner’s self-worth is tied to possessions, they might devalue the relationship during tough times, like job loss or economic downturns. Gender-Specific Insights: While the question specifies “a girl,” materialism isn’t gender-exclusive. However, societal factors play a role. Women face more pressure from media and culture to value appearance and luxury (for example, via social media influencers). A 2022 study in Sex Roles journal noted that women scoring high in materialism reported higher body dissatisfaction and relational insecurity, which could spill into partner dynamics.When It’s Not Necessarily a Red Flag
Not all materialism is toxic. If it’s moderate and balanced, say, enjoying nice things without obsession, it might just reflect ambition or cultural background. For example:
- In some cultures (for example, parts of Asia or the U. S.), financial stability is a practical priority for family security, per World Values Survey data.
- It could stem from past experiences, like growing up in poverty, which therapy or open communication might address.
- Compatibility matters: If both partners share materialistic values, it could work. A 2019 study in Social Psychological and Personality Science found “assortative mating” (similar traits) leads to happier couples.
Practical Advice Based on Evidence
- Assess Early: Relationship experts from the Gottman Institute recommend discussing values like money and success during dating. Red flags include dismissing non-material gestures or showing entitlement.
- Look for Balance: High materialism often coexists with positive traits like drive. But if it dominates, it might signal incompatibility.
- Data on Outcomes: Longitudinally, materialistic orientations predict shorter relationships. A 10-year study from the University of Rochester (2010) tracked young adults and found those with materialistic goals had more breakups and less fulfillment.
Ultimately, whether it’s a red flag boils down to your values and boundaries. If materialism aligns with what you want, it might not be an issue. But evidence suggests excessive focus on “things” often undermines the emotional depth needed for lasting bonds. Prioritizing mutual respect and shared growth tends to yield better results, as supported by decades of relationship science.
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4 moYou hit the nail on the head in your description. Yes, liking or having nice things is not a crime. But being obsessed with material things to the point it becomes an unhealthy addiction at the expense of values and common sense economics is a huge red flag. That screams insecurity as you noted. But it also screams that you crave other people's approval. Which means you allow external forces to determine your self worth.
That sort of materialism will result in constant drama, maybe unreasonable debt, and eventually resentment on both sides. You'll resent her materialism and spending while she'll resent being held accountable for her uncontrolled attempts to keep up with the Joneses.
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Agreed.
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I've had two women, both hot as hell, one wealthy and one middle class, ask me early on if I'd buy them designer handbags costing in the vicinity of $10,000. It was some stupid shit test they probably picked up in a Cosmo article. They both received the same speech on my feelings about luxury branding business models and the idiots that get sucked in by them. That was the end of the "money" shit tests to see if I would enforce my boundaries or simp for them, ROFL.
I can't help laughing my ass off at people who fall for luxury branding like like cars, watches, and fashion. I'm a finance guy. I've been the CFO of multiple businesses. I've sat through strategic discussions about product positioning and pricing to maximize profits when brand building. I've had to approve marketing budgets and sales incentive compensation plans.
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4 moBack several years ago there was a lady who I had met who was showing interest in dating. She is a very nice lady and quite the looker. However the red flag was that she had big name stuff that was expensive, and drove a Mercedes of all things. Well she had a job in the medical industry that paid somewhat well, but didn’t pay well enough to support the big name hand bags and the expensive car. Not to mention that she is a single parent and that is a big expense. Anyway after so much time she did declare bankruptcy. So yeah being materialistic like that, especially past the point that she could afford, was a dealbreaker for me. Heck of a nice lady though!!
10 Reply 1.9K opinions shared on Dating topic. For me absolutely and I can have that relatively quick, if I notice she's materialistic in a way where she for example expects luxury gifts I pass. That's just not my type, they can have the guy who tries to compensate the lack of a personality with expensive gifts.
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No and chances are they don’t even want half the shit they have. It’s there to fill a void of deep insecurity.
4 moI also spend money and buy nice things for myself, this doesn't make me greedy, on the contrary, I take care of myself because I love myself, please don't look at every girl like that.
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I mean if you’re using your own money and aren’t just blowing it. That’s one thing.
But if you’re financially irresponsible and just buying to fill a insecurity. Men who are financially responsible will see that as a liability not a asset. - 4 mo
It depends. I said… having nice things isn’t a crime. Spending all your money as well as mooching things off others…. Yeah. That’s a red flag.
And I’m not alone in thinking that based on what everyone else says. Besides many times people are only paying for logos. They’re literally paying to advertise for companies.
Sometimes it’s really not any better quality sometimes even lower quality. But companies know they’re making money on insecurity and giving people a sense of superiority. - 4 mo
Even if I get married, my husband will have to spend money on me because I'll be taking care of most things, and he'll only be focused on work. I'll be taking care of both work and the house, and when we have a child, I'll be the one carrying it, and my body will be ruined. What will the man do? Just go to work? No, he has to support me financially and meet my needs.
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If everything is shared, then the man becomes a gold digger. Why should I work, take care of the house, and take care of myself at the same time? What will my husband do then? Oh no, I'm not a servant.
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Why don't you have an answer? Am I wrong?
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Everyone’s different in what they want out of a relationship. Even a traditional relationship is 50/50. Just two people working in different roles.
In a real relationship botj people are working equally as hard to take care of one another. No matter what roles - 4 mo
But even if a woman takes care of the house. Traditionally…. Women managed the budget. Women took on the sort of accountant role.
A woman whose financially irresponsible cannot balance a checkbook. She will simply blow the money - 4 mo
So I get it. Some relationships are one sided.
But you have to look at it. A man who has money and is responsible. Is looking for a asset. Not a liability….
I mean sure. Some men…. Marry a woman and intend to divorce her later. Make her sign prenups with no protections for herself. And then… leave. That’s wrong.
But. A man doesn’t want a woman who blindly spends. If he’s making lots of money. He wants someone whose working around the house. - 4 mo
And it’s not just “going to work” I want you to try working a very mentally and/or physically demanding job. Just to come home do chores and dishes.
It’s not easy… and you staying home. Yeah you’ll be expected to work equally hard. It’s not just a free ride. And if something seems too good to be true. It probably is….
Because even very well meaning men can become burnt out. - 4 mo
You don’t have to be rich to be a asset either. You can be poor…. But good with money. It shows you’re not just using him for the money as well as you can manage it.
You can take care of the bills and taxes and paperwork….. Yeah. Marriage is two sided and if you want a free ride. Consider welfare and having baby daddies
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4 moI put women into two categories, the kind who think they're using you and the kind who you're in a relationship with.
If you're a materialistic person and you try to manipulate me, I'll do the math in my head and consider playing the game but you're basically a prop I'm using to keep me entertained until I find something better and when I do you'll feel like shit because you'll have to self reflect and I won't feel bad because it's ultimately good for you.
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4 moI wouldn’t say a red flag necessarily but I guess the outcome is the same as I generally don’t click with people that are materialistic as in my experience they feel it’s appropriate to “judge” people based on the labels they have on , the car they drive etc and that just isn’t important at all to me. I’d also say that these people in my experience and also a bit “ vacant” , which is another reason we would click.
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4 moProbably yes. Not just women though anyone in general who is too materialistic. It kind of implies that they don't give a shit about people or anything just material possessions. Also lack of priorities or real problems. Like say if you're homeless and starving and haven't eaten in months 500 dollar shoes would probably be the literal last thing on your mind.
10 Reply2.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. It is a bad sign cause it means she is interested in your income and assets rather than you.
A brief girlfriend made it clear that not only did she spend everything she earn but she intended to spend everything I earnt. When I put a large amount of money into super she was pissed because it didn't 'do her any good'. Her girl friends backed her up that I should invested in her :)
10 Reply396 opinions shared on Dating topic. top 3 biggest red flag
the other 2 is not knowing how to keep her legs closed and feminism.
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Tends to be “my body my choice” and “I’m a proud hoe”
And then…. It’s men objectify women. It’s bad for men to sleep with women…. While they are putting out themselves…
13.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. Do you know what is another red flag? A man who is constantly complaining about women, but doesn't know any.
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4 moThey can be if it becomes, "too much of a 'good' thing" thinking. (then there is always a side-argument of what defines "good".
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m 4 moany and every obsession... should be a concern
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4 moIt can be a red flag. Materialistic people are often vein, jealous and not the smartest.
10 Reply 5.9K opinions shared on Dating topic. This is definitely a red flag since she undoubtedly will expect you or some other guy to pay for it. Very few women can afford the prices of high fashion items.
10 ReplyMaterialistic women often have gold digger vibes
10 Reply1.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. For me it would be. I'm not into material things that much
10 Reply657 opinions shared on Dating topic. - Personally I don't interest her.
10 Reply10.9K opinions shared on Dating topic. Yes, particularly if she is irresponsible in her spending.
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4 moWhen I choose a girlfriend, I always look if she does the opposite.
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4 moShe is not long term dating material.
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4 moEspecially if she isn't a babe.
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Anonymous(36-45)4 moCan be, if she's a gold digger.
10 Reply799 opinions shared on Dating topic. yes, it is.
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4 moAbsolutely
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