The energy and such is quite lackluster. Am I more aware/awoke to the dull energy more possibly? Or what is your take.
You aren't going to like this answer, but you did ask the question, so I'm going to answer it.
Over the last 30 years, but especially the last 20 years, as most women have become incredibly radical Feminists (without seeing themselves as such at all, because it's become normalized) and have lost all interest in being wives and mothers and have prioritized careers and being "strong and independent" and "I don't need no man", men, as a group, have increasingly decided that there's little point in being in relationships with women - the risks and hassles are too high and the rewards are near zero - making it a terrible deal for men. Again - this is a generalization - men are aware that exceptions exist, but what is relevant here is that men see the vast majority of women as undesirable (except, to a degree, for casual sex). Men don't want relationships with "modern women" - far-left-leaning, "strong and independent", career-oriented, promiscuous, full of body modifications [tattoos & piercings], and full of masculine energy.
And because of this mindset, a ton of men no longer bother to make much if any effort to be attractive to women. I'm not talking about just clothes and style, I'm also talking about ALL of the things that women value. Men aren't prioritizing acquiring resources just to attract women (or the KINDS of resources that traditionally attract women), they aren't making any effort to develop personalities to attract women, they aren't approaching women, they largely aren't being chivalrous, and many actively avoid women entirely beyond whatever is required to be their co-workers or acquaintances. When I say "actively avoiding women" I'm being serious - in the past, lots of men would accept being in the Friend Zone and allowing women to use them as free attention, free labor, free emotional support, and often for financial support in the hope that a relationship would eventually result. That hasn't been completely eradicated, but a huge number of men have realized that this is a terrible position to be in, so they are intentionally avoiding women to avoid female "friendships" where they are expected to constantly give give give while receiving nothing in return.
This is a huge change from all previous history, when most men were actively seeking women's approval. Tons of men have completely written women off (again, except for sex).
And you might then ask, "how do men think they're going to get sex if they are thinking/being this way?" The answer is that many - almost certainly a majority - of them don't get sex at all and have come to peace with that. Others are willing to play the game just enough to get some amount of sex - there are always women who are desperate enough for male attention to trade that attention for sex, and this group of men get good at finding such women. And some percentage of these men simply seek out professional service providers.
Yes, of COURSE you have a percentage of leftist soy-boy "men" who don't think this way at all - but women largely don't want such men, and these men tend to get used, manipulated, and destroyed by women because they are mentally defenseless. And, yes, of COURSE you have the top 5-10% men that every woman wants, but as always, these men just use women for casual sex knowing full well that most women will sleep with them anyway, even knowing he has a 1500+ body count at age 25 and has slept with all of her friends already. Few women are getting relationships from such men.
Most men today are saving their energy and efforts for male-oriented activities: sports, construction, hunting/fishing/shooting, business/investing, working out, or playing video games. They simply no longer care what women think about them, because women stopped caring what men thought about them 50 years ago.
After 40 women have already had the veil taken off. We know how men operate.
You didn't have to explain men and what they go for. That is all I was referring to.
I am really referring to a loss of JOY Mr Oracle. Where has the JOY gone for life and not just ladies.
Often times we have to work way harder for less than what women do these days. Itâs exhausting being a guy in 2026. A lot of us get no love from the system or from the ladies. Weâd LIKE to go out and do stuff, if we could afford it, if we didnât have heaps and heaps of work placed on us throughout the week (those of us that DO work and try our best, despite the current climate)⌠itâs easy to just want to roll over and drop out and give up. And if we just even HAD someone to do things with, if we werenât constantly walking on eggshells around women and society. Some of us donât always live in very exciting places either, there isnât much to do in places with cheaper costs of living.
Women donât understand our struggle, nor do they care. Showing a little appreciation and care for what we do would actually go a long way with us, but all women expect from us nowadays is like some social media influencer lifestyle and personality to treat and entertain them 24/7 and itâs just not realistic at all. Do we look like a monkey that does tricks or something?
We have to work to live and afford life. This takes time, this takes energy, and often times physical labor or dealing with stressful situations and decision making. Itâs our provider mentality, and yet, itâs harder than ever to be a provider now. I used to have a lot of fun interests and hobbies and things that made me light up, but then life got hard and I have to work long hours and pay increasingly higher bills. I canât afford a home, housing prices have been ridiculous for years now, and wages arenât keeping upâŚ
Truthfully, sometimes I wish women would get a clue and come back down to earth and get a sense of reality. Look around for once and see the world for what it is. We arenât walking wallets to constantly extract value from and âOMGSHHH!!! letâs do something FUNNNN!â Itâs like please, just slow down and sit still for a minute. Be present. Itâs ok if things are quiet for a few days, and just be happy with what you have, because itâs better than what a lot of people have EVER had in the course of all of human history. But itâs hard times for people. At the very least, show some understanding.
I was not so much referring to work life. Women are in the grind also. We are living in SCAMmerica so I get the root cause of not making an upgrade in your income here.
I had to move jobs away from what I THOUGHT was my purpose, doing exactly what I wanted to be doing , where I wanted to be doing it, to go do something in an industry that I didnât want, just for better pay, because the first job wouldnât give me a raise after severely underpaying me for years (I would have done it sooner if I didnât feel trapped by the shit economy from the sc*mdemic) nobody was hiring for years.
Iâm just so tired boss. Tired of all of it. I just want a good life. Now itâs like Iâm forced to do something else because of bloated, over politicized corporations.
The rich keep wanting to build their riches. Can you blame them?
I donât blame them, trying to join them at this point đ
I can definitely relate. I get so turned off sometimes .
For real , All you do is go to work and then home?
That's it?
And I'm like okay. So I'll ask "Are you working on any personal projects right now that you're excited about?"
And he says " No, nothing "
Because most people would rather stare at their phones than engage in meaningful social activities. Most people have no hobbies these days, and they certainly don't read.
Definitely agree Nikki
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Because most people are boring. No interests beyond celebrity gossip, no hobbies other than watching television, etc. Boring couch potatoes, especially in my age group. When I go running in the morning (Mon through Sat) I rarely see anyone my age out there. Most are women over 40, and many of them have better figures than women half their age.
I relate to the majority of people being boring. I cycle 5 days a week and I don't see the bike lanes having many cyclists in them anymore.
A lot of us just feel like there's no point to trying because we haven't seen any effort we make to go the extra mile pay off. That's true for every aspect of life.
If you want people to get excited about putting in more work for anything, you have to reward them for it.
Most people are an audience to their own lives, not in the director's chair.
That's what happens when you demoralize men (all masculinity is toxic rhetoric) and push degenerate content to reshape culture. Men don't want to build a life with women when a woman is majorly entitled, and can call the force of the State to kick the legs out from under a man at any infraction, real or perceived. No thanks.
Your comment reads like you want an Entertainment Manager for your life. Most people do not lead interesting lives and they want their partner to "match their energy" and then are disappointed when they do.
This is not a tit for tat question...
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I want to believe it is just being in survival mode as the top reason and then the lesser reasons being over stimulation.
I read your updates, I don't see how it relates at all to my response. I'm not saying men or women are the problem. What I am saying is the well has been posioned so it's very difficult for young people to form stable families today across most of the modern world. You could blame it on the internet or feminism, but something is certainly and systemically wrong. The best thing we can do is be introspective enough to find and eradicate our contribution to the issues of society.
"Be the change you want to see in the world."
I still am waiting for why are men not feeling joy and showing it?
Define joy and how it appears outwardly when a person experiences it.
A grounding demeanor and showing they enjoy what's happening. A glow you cannot explain but is there and opposite of sullen.
Men are absorbing all the negativity being pushed by media toward them.
From being told they're privileged while getting worse education (from women) to being told they are the problem with society and have all the power yet can't change anything themselves. That they are assumed predators until they show they aren't. That they may have problems but when they speak about it's used against them to shame them. That if they have a preference in dating it's insecurity if it's not allowing a woman to do and be whatever she pleases.
Far too much misandry is being allowed to spread, men are just stepping away and being as small as possible in society
Society Stigma towards innocent men and our society pushing vetting males I see how it can be a huge factor in reducing and stepping away in society.
That sounds like your personal experience. Maybe your own expectations and standards have changed over time and things that you used to accept now bug you.
I could say the same sort of thing about women these days seeming vacuous and shallow. But that's a gross generalization probably driven by exposure to the worst of women screaming for attention on the internet while trying to be "influencers", whatever the fuck that means. What I find face to face in the real world is women are pretty much the same as they've always been. They come in all sorts of flavors.
Simple. Women aren't worth it anymore. 20 years ago it was a give and take. Women today just take and give nothing back unless it's someone they're completely head over heels and it's just for that moment. Women wanted more rights and freedom. Y'all got it and what did you do? Moved like F boys that they complained about. You now work as much as men, lack personality and little to no hobbies outside of the gym. Women want a masculine man while acting masculine and refusing to be feminine. What man wants that? For the true gem of woman that we do find they'll not be singing the same tune. If you haven't experienced a good man treating you amazingly then it might be you. Men seek peace. Accountability, communication and consistency is what we want. Most women are allergic to this.
Mentally men are dull. They have 2 speeds----asleep and obsessed.
Women are seeing things as they are with men and were not male centered. The veil has been lifted. More after 35yrs old women know what men are after.
Women these days are getting stuck up. They walk around like theyâre better than everyone. You go on a dating site and most their profiles only if under 6 foot swipe left. Or much be taller. There are girls I know that are still on the apps and single. They get too shallow. Even if you try to have a nice conversation with the opposite sex you get looked at as weird if youâre unattractive. I had a woman get up and stand across the bar after I introduced myself when she sat next to me. Weâre dull because we get accused of things weâre not. Because of one guy that did something, women take it out on all the innocent ones. Feminism has poisoned women to think every guy is the same.
Prior male patterns always come with a cost. It is never a movement that did that- it is proven behavior. Dating apps are crap and never reality.
Dating apps are terrible. What male patterns are you talking about?
I donât see this, but it could be because I spend most of the year on a university campus.
lucky, enjoy it while it lasts!
@Abbycado That is one thing that I really missed after graduating from college, was the intensity and passion of most of the students. For several years after I graduated, if I drove through the part of the state where the university that I went to is, Iâd take a detour and go there to visit. It kind of made me homesick actually.
@ArrowheadSW I can completely get that. I am one day home from school and miss so many things already.
Waking up and not having my roommates around. My boyfriend is now an hours drive away. I miss the buzz of the campus.
It is nice to be home in many respects, but it will be a long summer waiting to go back. Fall is super fun because it is a D1 football school, so there is tons of things going on during football season.
@Abbycado Exactly. Looking back I remember a sense of emptiness of sorts in those years after college. The first year after graduating I went back several times to visit friends who were still there. Even one lady who I dated for a semester before I graduated. And my best friend from college and I still this many years later continue to repeat the same stories and laugh about the fun times.
Most people who I hang out with have hobbies and interests. So I really donât see much of those who are lackluster, although I understand where you are coming from. I belonged to a hiking club where I used to live and women in that club complained about the couch potato guys who they knew. They of course wouldnât be on the hike because they were couch potatoing at the moment. LOL
The world has become more energy draining the past decade
This is the case.
Yea the world can't see us live in peace
I sense this too, there seems to be a lack of passion, determination and optimism. I believe it's from too much social media, news, politics that sets them back, being brainwashed by this whole view that the world is a bad place... when in reality it's how one makes it, go outside, DO things etc. Volunteer, work your ass off for what you enjoy, stay healthy, help others, workout daily, treatyour friends and family, endorse yourself in nature, nature is healing
People feel like there is no point in trying because the government sets us all up to fail.
Mostly agree, but other people do it too. Humans use to care about each other, and so would help each other. Now, we've lost our sense of community and only care about ourselves, which turns into "You aren't providing me enough benefit, I'm done with you" which becomes "no one is giving me enough. I give up"
m there are no boring people... just different interests in any of us...
now, if you're talking energy... most people never check their iron levels
GO GET A BLOOD TEST FFS!!
I wouldn't put ALL men into the same category. After all, everyone is different with different ideas about life.
Our President is 83 years old and I don't see any 'lackluster' coming from him at all!!
You're old.
Most old women are single for a reason. He knows this. He also knows that if she's a quality woman at this age he doesn't have to do a big song and dance. If she's smart and he's a good man, she'll see it.
I have energy and can do a whole lot of things that are quality things. Old fart I AM NOT
I never said you were an old fart. I said you're old. Guys whether you want to accept it or not have wised up by this age. Guys aren't just trying to get laid (if they are they're the exception and those men have learned nothing). Point is Guys by this age are not ruled by their hormones. We know basically what makes us happy in life. And doing a little song and dance for a woman that would only decrease our peace, not add to it is not part of the equation. By this age, good women are straight and to the point. In short, these men probably see you coming from a mile away. Power shifts at 40. Some argue it's earlier than that. But after 40 you're not going to cow men just off of your looks anymore. You got to be a whole lot more than that. And Guys KNOW after 40 those women are in short supply. I don't want to go as far as to say after 40 men are the prize, because I think anybody being the prize is nonsense. But this is the point. After 40 you're probably not giving a man a family. If that was in his plans, you're a liability in that sense. Again, at this age it's about adding to HIS peace. If you want to get out and party than maybe you need to look for a 20 something guy.
Your one guy. And luckily only one opinion. Power begins at 50 and if your not aware of that so sad for you.
Well have fun with that power.đ I didn't ask this questionđ¤ You did.
I am quite aware of the facts of life.
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After 50... comes internal stability
Hopefully. Not everyone grows up.
The nervous system regulates.
m Because what you and I feel is subjective? I also believe it's the case for everybody on earth
Probably a response to the women in front of them.
Maybe because we've been beat to shit? I don't know.
Overwhelmed with work, family, and finances perhaps.
I was just talking to my mom and I told her that many males are stuck in their ways and expanding themselves is difficult.
Based on your interactions or the fact that men are getting sick and tired of all the BS from all these female weirdo groups.
I don't know what you mean. But what sparks their (men's) fire in this realm?
there's no reason to get out of bed. so be the reason he stays in.
What are men suppose to do, tell jokes every day?
yikes, it is a spark not jokes... a spark and or the opposite of dull drum
Stop looking for anemic vegans and youâll be alright
Vegan's are less dull and full of Joy
You think we're here for your entertainment? Talk to the hand.
Sorry, I should have prefaced my comment with "With all due respect...". It's still early.
We have to live with women who actively dislike and disrespect most of us.
sorry for the experiences... disrespect is wicked
That's just what you attract/surround yourself with
Not you feel that way cause they probably are lack luster and bland
lack of male hormones.
I'm catching that vibe.
Lmao đ
Embrace your own passion. Ignore the rest.
Survival mode.
I think you haven't found the right person yet.
Feel? or ARE lackluster and dull?
Act lackluster... I am not seeing energy to be engaged in something meaningful or sparks their fire.
You didn't met me yet honey 😅
Meet me in NYC... vibrant energy. :) :)
My place or your place?
Mine then yours. lol
Would you handle if I go 4-5 round easily. ? đ
3-4 to start
Done hit me in pm đ
Likely your age.
My peers are either very dull mentally and lay around or maintaining the status quo. I do have younger male friends and they are unmotivated to take care of themselves also.
just my observation
What's missing?
Low energy to simple life enjoyment.
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