If I just lost my job but they say I could try to get it back if I talk to them and explain the situation, should I do that or try for unemployment?

[Flower7]

My job just sent me an email stating that I've been suspended from work and cannot return unless I write a letter explaining the reasons for the mistakes I've made with the job. Then they will decide if I can come back or not. If I don't respond at all, I'll be terminated.

I just started the job 2 months ago and honestly don't even like it very much. I feel like I would be happier not working there.

So should I even try to get the job back or is it better to just accept being fired and go on unemployment? I think I would make a similar amount of money either way.

Try to get the job back.

Go on unemployment.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

I would try for unemployment but there are tons of people State Wide in the USA but all I know is people are behind and haven't got their unemployment yet my opinion is to try for another job cause unemployment is down for a lot of people and @Flower7 I'm sorry for @ToastyOats with his offensive opinion to him and I have reported him Flower
I think the world of you and the kindest young woman on this site

[Flower7]

Thanks so much!

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

@Flower7 You're welcome Flower

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Thanks For Most Helpful Guy :)

I hope things are looking better for you :)

[Lonely888]

Do you like the job?

[Flower7]

Nope

[Lonely888]

Them don't try to get it back lol

[Jamie05rhs]

^THIS

[Sun_Kim-Ai]

I'm really sorry that's happening to you, I can imagine it can be a really distressing and something that ruins the weekend. I hope you are at least a bit serene and not letting this completely ruin your day.

That said, your employer's behavior with that e-mail is sketchy and borderline manipulative... they want to fire you, but they are willing to take you back if you beg them to? Sounds like a way to have better control over you and put you in a bad situation... really, I get a bad feeling the more I think about this situation - if you go back there, they'll probably hold this over your head and make you do unpaid hours, or cut your pay or some other kind of bad surprise. Their behavior is sketchy as heck - you either fire someone or you warn them that their place is at risk and motivate them to improve, you don't fire them and then ask them to beg you to hire them back.
I'm not sure about laws in your country, but in mine is something you could sue them over.

Anyhow, my advice would be to quit them and go for unemployment while you look for something else. Or if you aren't really sure you'll be eligible for unemployment and really need the money, try to get the job back but look for something else at the same time, and as soon as you find something bid them ''adios''! I'm really sorry you are finding yourself in this ugly situation, but don't give up hope - jobs come and go, and I'm sure that you'll find something better and where they treat you as a human being.

[Flower7]

That was very encouraging, thanks!

[RasberrySlushPuppy]

Read the guidance about employment with them specifically about work performance (you should have access to their intranet page?) have you joined the union or have access to an advice bureau? Do write a letter in response stating facts avoid stating your feelings and avoid writing about your disappointment. Have you previously had informal meetings about your work performance? If not, say that this is a complete surprise to hear as you haven't previously had any informal meetings about your performance in the 2months youve worked, also that you have good relationships with your colleagues and senior staff. As it has been 2months you can ofcourse mention briefly about progress but dont talk about competencies. Mention that you would have benefitted from regular catchups to discuss a better work balance. I was in a 6month contract and in the last month my employer did the same thing to me, i wrote back to them as above. I left quickly and jumped into a job straight away. Every short contract involves bs and if i didn't jump into a new job i go on unemployment and look for work with agencies. So hand your notice in after youve written the letter (check if you can give a week's notice), ask for a reference join agencies immediately as they need references from your manager, join unemployment. Look for a new job. Any help im willing.

[Flower7]

This is very helpful, thanks.

[RasberrySlushPuppy]

when you respond, cc HR. They will see how shitty this manager is and will naturally force the manager to give you a good reference.

[Interstate]

You are better off getting it back then leaving it altogether, and get screwed from not being able to land something else (that's what HE said). At least this way, you still have something until another opportunity opens up for you. In certain fields in certain areas, employment is still difficult to come by because of Corona. But try and get it back, and in the meantime put some feelers out there (again, HE said), and keep at it until something breaks.

But at the same time, even a letter won't cut it depending on the offenses. If you p. m me with details of what happened, I can most likely help you on a personal basis. I have been shown the door NUMEROUS times over the years for bullsh** reasons, and I could give you better direction

[DonkeyDan]

I'm guessing as you've only been there for 2 months you're still in a probationary period? Otherwise surely they should have had an employment disciplinary review? I don't know how employment law works in your country but in the UK you can't just send someone a letter to fire them, there has to be a disciplinary review where they explain to you where you need to improve and give you the opportunity to put your side of things forward and then do better pending a further review. This is not the case if you are in a trial or probation period and they can let you go without warning as per the terms of the contract.
If you were to write to respond to their letter and you did get your job back where do you see the job taking you? Maybe you try and go back so you are earning but use the opportunity to find other work. Although there is something to be said about not having a job to put a firework up your ass to find a job.
Whatever you do good luck and keep us up to date.

[slatyb]

If you were terminated for cause you may not be able to collect unemployment. What reasons did they give for your suspension? Probably best for you to find something else.

[Flower7]

The reason was for not doing the job fast enough.

[Jamie05rhs]

Then fuck 'em. Tell them to suck your dick.

[exitseven]

If you hate the job you should go on unemployment. I have been laid off for a year ad a half and collected the whole time. I was one of the people they write about that makes more collecting than working.

[Flower7]

I think there are many situations like that. Unfortunately, the pay from most jobs is very low. So yes, unemployment does tend to pay better.

[Flower7]

Were you laid off because of COVID?

[exitseven]

Yes, I am a teacher and the college went to online learning and I decided to collect instead. I never thought it would last this long however.

[Godawfulwasteofspace]

If you don't like the job go on unemployment. Try to find a new career. That's why a lot of people aren't going back to their jobs. It's a great time for a career change. I walk outside and see stores and restaurants that say we are hiring everywhere. That's because nobody wants to go back to making poverty wages. Most people got a better job or are studying for a new career.

[Wiredone]

Honestly, I think it would look better for you if you tried to get the job back. I'm sorry they suspended you. It really bothers me that they couldn't even tell you in person.

[Flower7]

Look better to who?

[Wiredone]

If you put the job on your resume and also unemployment.

[Flower7]

I wouldn't use this job as a reference. But yes, maybe I'd have a better chance of getting unemployment if I could show that I tried.

[Bricealan]

Flower, I suggest going back if you can, and then look elsewhere in the meantime. Getting suspended and then terminated will look shitty on your record. I would suck it up and try to stay on and look elsewhere for a job your like

[nawtee_me]

First of all if you are fired you can not draw unemployment. They need to lay you off not fire you. If they offer your job back and you don't take it then that can also disqualify you from unemployment. Sometimes it is not as easy as people think it is to get on unemployment. Your case may be different though.

[DarkWinterNights]

Ordinarily I’d suggest explaining the situation but if you’ve only been there for 2 months and they’re treating you like this I wouldn’t even bother.

[karaspara]

That's a tough one but if you are confident of getting another job in reasonable time then get out of there

[Pete671]

Email them back telling them why what you did was actually right and in accordance with their policies,

[Jamie05rhs]

Me personally? I'd say "fuck 'em."
But that's just because I'm not a bitch and I don't take no shit from nobody.

[jeremy_09]

Just go for unemployment. They only want the e-mail to use against you if you do get fired and try to sue them.

[sarahlumpkin]

If an appeals process exists, take it. I am not asking you to elaborate since it is a sore subject I cannot respond further based on lack of information.

[SnakeBoop]

Or look for another job, although getting terminated isn't a good look.

[Flower7]

I don't think I'm qualified for any other jobs...

[Cowboy6666]

If you can find another suitable job within a good time, leave the current one

[ewok737]

If you are terminated, you don't qualify for unemployment benefits.

[Wiredone]

That is when you are qualified for unemployment. You can't qualify if you quit your job

[ewok737]

@Wiredone No, in most states, if you are terminated for misconduct, or performance issues, you don't qualify, also your employer will be contacted about your termination, highly unlikely you will prevail in this.

[RasberrySlushPuppy]

@Wiredone she's received a horse-poop letter, thats enough to resign. Unemployment won't question it but if they do she's got evidence of a bullying manager.

[ewok737]

@RasberrySlushPuppy She received an email from her employer, to tell her side of the situation, most employers wouldn't even go that far, just terminate her and move on.
Also how do you get a bullying manager from this?
He has an employee that is under performing for some reason and needs to solve the dilemma of whether she needs to go, or stay and hopefully do better in the future.

[RasberrySlushPuppy]

@ewok737 oh gee, a formal letter first asking to admit mistakes which every human makes? how rude! The usual thing is to regular informal chats and discuss progress better work balance? Mistakes means you're working hard! It is the managers responsibility to minimise errors and support their staff, not pile on work.

[ewok737]

@RasberrySlushPuppy You're reading more into this, than is originally stated she never mentioned if she had been approached about her job performance before getting the email. She needs to add more information, it's pretty light it.

[RasberrySlushPuppy]

well duh this is my exact point, she wasn't approached previously. So the letter is horsepoop and they haven't even followed their own rules.

[ewok737]

@RasberrySlushPuppy You do not know if she was approached about this, because she never stated it in her original post.

[RasberrySlushPuppy]

an email though, this manager is stupid. Talking allows better communication. Now they won't get the desired response.

[Gwenhwyfar]

Go on unemployment

[Flower7]

I worry I might not even be eligible since I'm getting fired for job performance.

[Gwenhwyfar]

You probably are but check your state unemployment handbook (should be available online on their website)

[Flower7]

Ok, I'll do that, thanks!

[Gwenhwyfar]

Welcome 😊