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I mean why should people even make decisions or learn to distinguish truth from falsehood? We have the government for that. They will just decide what is true once and for all and then delete the other half of internet.
And then the other party comes in, deletes the first half, because that is then going to be false for four years. And we will live happily ever after.
Seriously, one of the major advantages of the internet is wild experimentation. You can't regulate your way to a better world. If anything, we need to loosen the rules in regular education, let schools do odd things here and there and let the parents decide where they send their children. Vouchers or cash or just attention, customers should decide, not bureaucrats. And for children, their parents are the customers.
Children should be generally restricted in their online time until they can handle it. But not because low quality youtubers but because the whole thing is addictive and damages the dopamine balance. Once a teen is old enough to be online without supervision, they are old enough to handle bad content as well, whatever form it takes.
Considering there are many college graduates with fancy degrees that are no better and hold positions they shouldn't, no. A higher education =/= better morals or common sense.
I think a lot of the wackiness on social media is mostly for shock value and attention as well. That kind of stuff gets more views than someone talking sensibly. I know there are certainly legitimately crazy people with insane ideas out there, but I think they're a very loud minority that most people don't agree with for the most part, and some of these others cash in on the opportunity to go "viral".
The good and bad thing about social media and the Internet both is that everyone has a platform to voice their opinions, so the crazies that no one would take seriously in real life get the same opportunity as everyone else to spread their opinions to impressionable people, with the added benefit of being able to mask a bit more about themselves and be more deceitful. The majority of people on social media also tend to be naïve and impressionable youth (and even some older people with these qualities) who are quick to believe what they are told without applying common sense and thinking it through, or doing their research.
I think people are just going to have to work harder to teach their kids to use their judgment wisely and critically think about some of the stuff they're being fed online. It's also good to encourage kids to engage in hobbies outside of social media and not spend too much time on it, as I think excessive time spent on it can be damaging in many ways, including feeding insecurities and worsening depression.
As much as I hate the affect the internet is having on society and the younger generation, this is where I feel parents should be more proactive, involved in their children and the content they are viewing on social media. Morals and values are something that should be taught/instilled in the home, not by schools/social media/society...
Nah, dimwit troglodytes and boomers do much of the "poisoning" in the digital world.
What you don't seem to understand is that the process of becoming a high value Youtuber, or social influencer etc, isn't random or peerless. The platforms and advertisers curate these people carefully. The process is actually rather democratic in that the people themselves subscribe or unsubscribe of their own volition. It's usually a quick fall when they go against the norm.
In other words these, people are behaving exactly as their backers want them to. It's actually nobodies like anti-vaxxers, peddling shit that they hope will stick and get them a "following" that are the cause of most problems. What you actually mean to say regarding that "certificate" is that some lowlife PTA/HOA karen/kevin gets to have an input in who makes it big.
It's just one of many reason I laugh at you, I suppose. You place too much importance on small minded people having big ideas.
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No. Independent and critical voices are important, limiting people who want reveal their opinions online with "certificates" and "morals" will lead to censorship. People have the right to hear pro and counter arguments to build up their own opinions.
I do agree that a lot of these icons are either pointless or not really offering the world anything useful, but I don't think requiring them to have a diploma or degree is a good idea either. If you do that, then you'll hold back all the other good icons out there who have a wealth of knowledgeable or uplifting things to give everybody.
Plus, the sad part about the bad icons is that they usually already do have a school degree or certificate. They're just posting useless or poisonous stuff because they can.
1. Public schools and many colleges are indoctrination machines and many people are okay with that. Why not skip the line and indoctrinate now?
2. It's on the parent to control what's on their kids screen just like watch TV shows/movies, or watching porn. It's not the networks fault
3. There is no certification standard to use and would at best effectively be a way to make sure all influencers share the "right" ideas which defeats the purpose and more indoctrination
Let's act like we care about freedom of speech and believe parents are responsible for their children. Sure, some influencers should be more responsible. It's not their job to raise your kids
No. I'm more interested in addressing corporate-controlled mainstream media's business model of lies, manipulation and propaganda. It produces no truthful journalism at all.
So I'm all in favor of social media's open forum to explore every thought, theory and point of view.
No, they are entertainers, no other entertainer was ever tested for his moral standpoint or what so ever.
You can write books, make music, videogames, ... and the only line stopping them is wether they find a platform/sponsor paying them or when its reaching a level when they are breaking the law.
Dude.. they are not jobs.. Also you REALLY dont want them to learn actual rhetoric because it appears Americans in particular are super susceptible to people putting ideas in their heads such as what Donald Trump did. Making influencers professional propagandists and public speakers is a TERRIBLE idea
They should be held legally responsible for any advice they give. They should be clear what they are and are not qualified to advise on.
Schools have already taken it upon themselves to teach our children their version of what's moral. I'm more concerned about who gets appointed the job of Moral Police. Parenting is the answer, not censorship.
No, it wouldn't be a solution, because having a college degree isn't a guarantee of good choices and good taste. If half of Americans have a college degree, how sure you are that all the members of this half are the intelligent ones and the members of the other half are, all of them, inept, untalented and unable to think for themselves?
Lol no. If you don't want your kids watching it then don't let them.
There's a lot of money to be made in that industry and where there's money there is usually a formula for making it. So there's a possibility that in the future we will see "Influencer" as a major in college.
The Golden Rule: the person with the gold makes the rules.
Parents should make an effort to keep their children off of YouTube and social media. Then this wouldn’t be as much of an issue.
That's not going to happen when kids use computer's for school work they have cell phones and most parents work and can't watch their kids all the time. They can monitor their use but if you have good communication with your kids and they know they can talk to you openly about anything then it shouldn't be a problem
Can you give examples of them poisoning the kids? Because a lot of times, if it's stupid, it's stupid and they get negative votes for their contents because growing up, it's parenting and school that gives them morality experiences. After all, social medias are inanimate objects so every kids have the choice on how to use it. If you wanna blame those brain washing influences, why don't you blame it on parenting not giving them proper guidance?
It's a continuation of a bigger issue. Parents not actually parenting their kids and passing that responsibility off on who ever or whatever they can. For example parents pushing the education system and especially teachers to parent their kids. But we are not suppose to call out shit parenting for the reason a person is shit person. We are supposed to blame the media, schools, internet, influences and everything else but their parents and their shit parenting.
If you want to get given bad information by certified professionals, just use the regular news media instead of YouTube.
A class or degree basically means nothing in this regard.
A school degree for what? talking? the reason they are there in the first place is because they dont want to touch that student loan debt... no one does lol. I dont want to give an institution my money at a premium rate for little returns. that's why I am now considering an apprenticeship where I can get paid and educated at the same time.
Personally I don't think that Influencers should be restricted like that just because parents don't like their children consuming their content, yet do nothing to stop their children from consuming said content in the first place. I agree that social media can very well have negative effects on kids, but also believe that parents that care enough to complain about it should also care enough to keep it out of their child's reach.
No, there should not be an academic requirement.
You would be a Democrat, based on your desire to be a controlled slave and for a tyrannical state to micromanage the lives of the population.
You would be happier in North Korea, or Cuba, or Venezeula.
No! That’s an unconstitutional restriction on free speech
Some of them already do, while some don't. But honestly in my opinion I don't think so, it's free will, if they want a degree go for it and if they don't then they shouldn't be forced.
u you do seem to not realize that... there's a lot of teachers in schools and professors in college and universities that are doing the very same thing...
Traditional education system's been designed to create more workers than creators, even if many changes have been made to make it more supportive of creativity the system still just doesn't meet the threshold of today, so imposing such would just limit creativity.
u The same could be said of the MSM but they, as well as YouTubers, influencers and other social media producers, are protected by the First Amendment.
no... the whole point of the internet was to give everyday folks a voice. not reserve it for those with enough money to have gone through uni education. we already see this in politics and its taken away the voice of the average worker
Not everything needs a piece of paper to value your worth.
but it doesn't hurt to have proof of putting in an effort
Well it should be a choice either way. If you want to have it then go for it..
I really don't care. there's probably just a many dumb fuck educated people out there.
@whosnumber1 Sadly, it really isn't proof of anything. Just look at college degrees and some of the people who have them and are very highly educated, yet don't have a lick of sense.
Kids brains are already poisoned by school social media made it worse unlimited Internet made it even worse now Tiktok! Loool RIP humidity in the 80s it was predicted by 21st-century humans will become so stupid that they will not be able to survive because of their own extreme stupidity‘s did you know there was a study done that high IQ men and women no longer want to have kids?
Influencers rely entirely on their personality, not on knowledge. Whether that is good or not is debatable. Also, who's to say that an ''influencer'' school will be any better? What if they purposefully teach propaganda, as schools often do?
no. why? being a shill doesn't need any education. just get rid of all your morals and integrity and there you go.
it is our fucking job to rise our children not to fall for shills like that. if they fall for it, we failed. we need to fix ourself, not others. you can choose if you're gonna be "influenced" or not. it's not like they're forcing you to buy their shit at gun point.
I agree 101% that these problems exist. The problem is that there is no diploma for being "unstupid" and moral.
No you cannot tell people what they can or cannot say just because you don't happen to agree with them. The idea of a school in order to teach people how to think or what to say is ludicrous.
I mean many of them typically have some sort of video editing schooling. Most YouTubers have a team such as JohnTron or CarlSagan42.
Yes I think most of them could be a little smarter. Hehe
those people are redundant
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Maybe when school certificates mean something which isn't detrimental.
Look at journalists and lawyers!
I think that everyone who is famous on social media should have a degree or certificate.
No no no no no no nah no no no nah no no
No and that kind of thinking is poisonous to society.
It wouldn't really matter when the education system is the largest indoctrinator of false beliefs.
Yeah, that's just what we need, more credentialism, more avenues for gatekeeping from the Cathedral.
I'm tired of so called influencers posting up horrible grammar and misspellings
What's the deal with these questions today? No we shouldn't take away someone's freedom.
Just because a degree exists doesn't mean they are good at it. No a degree shouldn't exist. Definitely not. It would stop absolutely nothing.
It could add some credibility, but generally, people overall people are going to like what they like degree or not.
Brains, wisdom, looks and whatever gets you out there.
No ffs I am tired of people trying to make the government bigger when it needs to be smaller.
No. Even if they had a degree they could still 'poison' the young. I fail to see the point...
@richardceorl1Requiring a school degree or certificate for influencers, YouTubers, & social media producers would contradict the 1st Amendment.
Another idiot. You have no right to expect others to give a fuck about your children.
Sounds to me like you really have no clue at all how the world works.
Free speech is there for a reason.
@ChefPapiChulo, as a spokesperson for your fellow illegals, what do you think?
It is against free speech but at the same time it could minimize misinformation
Stop your kids from watching. And any other inappropriate content should be reported.
Yeah.. Ethics degree and Masters degrees in Morals
What good would that do?
no. what good is a degree? it means nothing
u mean social media degree?
No, that sounds ridiculous.
No we should not LOL
Who are the "uncontrollably poisoning" people?
Freedom of speech doesn't require a degree
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