Is it normal that more and more people in their 20s and almost 30s continue living with their parents? (Page 2)
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Look at the average income statistics.
Look up the average cost of living.
Look at housing prices in your area.
You'll quickly have your answer.
The average person can't afford a home today without a second source of income, which usually would be a spouse. Look at marriage statistics.
If OP wants someone to blame they should look at active efforts being brought forth by the left specifically the radical feminists. If she wants to understand exactly why dual income is a ridiculous standard for housing, OP should look at the divorce statistics; if she wants to know who's to blame for the divorce statistics, she should look at the initiation rates by gender.
That should help her figure out that she and her peers are the ones to blame for everything happening right now.
@DeltaCharlieEcho well that took a left turn lol
I bought a house for $160,000 from driving a forklift while going to college. Now, houses cost 7x that, wages have gone down, and living expenses have increased significantly. If I was 20 right now, I don't think I could ever afford a house. And that's really sad.
It is super expensive, especially in big cities. I live in a big city and the rent is easily 2K per month or more for a one bedroom property so it is really hard to just move out as soon as you’re legally old enough. I felt ashamed that I still live at home but I guess people understand these days with the expense of living. None of my friends have moved out yet.
Yeah, with the high cost of living and an income that makes three times the rent requirement. No single person can afford these living costs and meet the requirements to be approved as a sole tenant except for those who earns abundantly or rich in financial means.
It's generally not a preference. Most younger people, and even couples cannot afford areas in or around a metro area.
If you're willing to move further away or can find a fixer-upper is your best bet, but property even in remote locations are now getting expensive.
Yes. Very hard to afford living here. It's another thing to trust roommates if you find one. Then apartments usually have many shitty people living in them. Selling drugs of out them or doing drugs and shit. Honestly if landlord's did drug tests I'd be more than happy to live in an apartment.
Yeah, the only reason why it would be normal for a person in their 20s to be in their parents house would be if they’re in college and living there just for the time being. Personally as soon as I’m old enough I’m getting out of my parents house, lmao
Yeah honey you're 15 everyone thought that way.
No, In my culture you’re lazy if you’re in your 20s and doing absolutely nothing with your life. Everyone that disliked is just a lasy bum that needs to get a job
Lol cutie
Cost of living has increased everywhere... Everyone is struggling, especially single people. So, I guess it's normal to stay with your parents so long as you pay them rent? Help them out with chores? I managed to rent a house but it's awful... It's in a bad neighbourhood, that's why the rent is cheap...
Being able to own a home will become more difficult over time becuase there are "limited" housing available compared to 30-50 years ago. So if we have 100,000 people between 18-21 who want to move out of their parent's home , there isn't 100,000 homes/apartments vacant to be rented or purchase , every year.
I think the whole idea is dumb to move out at a young age. Live with your parents for a few years (after turning 18 ) and save the money you would have spent on rent , and by the time you're 25 , you will have a down payment a home. Where as all the money you would have paid in rent is gone.
Well, yeah. No society can keep up with The growth of their population. When my parents were young an appartment would cost about ten times their monthly salary. Now you'd be Lucky to find a place costing less than 100 times your monthly salary. People have to work harder to have their own place, meanwhile nowhere near enough homes are built to house everyone.
Welcome to India, we have culture of joint family. Where grand father, grandmother, parents, uncle (fathers brother), aunt, children etc live together.
Though now slowly family getting parted, still grandparents, parents and children do live together.
Oh my goodness, sounds very very very challanging.
I would go completly NUTS EY !!!
@natured it's because you never experienced it. Joint family in one way is very good.
Though every thing have their own pros and cons.
People here living for years.
I would suggest to read about it if you can.
I saw documentaries and yes I know what you man, but personally, I would not be able to manage it, like you said I never experienced it and to be honest I hope I never will.
I love my privacy, the hell imma wait for my turn in bathrooms and stuff...
Aah!! That bathroom stuff😂😂. Let me clear your doubts
1. Well though joint family, mostly people have their own room and bathroom.(what you saw in documentary is mostly of rular areas or old things)
2. Well privacy has some issues in such, but it's adjustable and it's not people don't give space.
Oh okok, sounds better. Yes you are right might be.
I mean for you it might be normal, but what if your wife or fiance wants you to move out? Would you do it?
Moving out is not a problem. First try is always to live together.
And as said, there are no issue of privacy if that is option for moving out.
As said, everything has pros and cons.
Joint family helps a lot in raising kids, any problems that arise there are people to advise and easily accessible.
Even the entertainment increases a lot when whole family is together.
I agree with the entertainment, my fiance and I always gather both of our families together and enjoy family time, we are family people that is no doubt.
But we could not immagine living with the whole family..
Maybe Indian families are cooler lol, because in Italy due to hight amount of temperament and hot blood large families in one house equals DISASTER LOL
Haha. Well in large family you get every kind of character. One is emotional, one is cruel, one will be introvert etc.
Infact many things can be learn from there only.
Yes as you have spend almost 30 years of life in way, it gets difficult to adjust.
Yes, they are finding out more young people are staying at home and going to work and go to school and they give mom and dad a little bit of money to help them is cheaper, sometimes also best to save up for 8-10 years before moving out to find an apartment I live in America and lot siblings living with mom, back in 2019, my first cousin and her husband moved in with her parent my aunt so who knows but I agree it's more common
In Toronto and the suburbs, a 1 bedroom condo costs $700,000, unemployment is over 10%, once another Great Depression hits then shit will really hit the fan. To answer your questions, things got more expensive, people had to stay home, it's not ideal but if your parents are fine to live with and allowing rent free, younger people (the kids) should save up and have a job to eventually move out.
It's hard but it can be done. I moved out at 19, got married, and my husband and I bought our first home last year. We live in a large and very expensive metro area and had to work our butts off to get there, but we did. I guess it depends on a lot of different factors.
You mean you're husband worked. You're 24.
@Hallo626262 my husband was In school when we got married. I worked and financially supported my family while he finished his degree. Since he’s graduated we make about the same amount.
@Hallo626262 so what’s your point?
let's see, there's student loans, debts, lucky to get a good job with an actual living wage... yeah it's not that easy. plus housing/rent is in high demand right now with little inventory so people are upping their prices. yeah, those less fortunate aren't going to be able to move. some even had to move back in with parents. it's not fair and this world needs to fix itself.
In a country where people struggle to afford a home or a place to live, so they pay their parents some rent money to live affordably. There are plenty of countries where it is common. The united states is no longer the super thriving country anymore. People just need to get used to it.
Yeah it's normal. Housing is expensive and it's difficult for some people to find affordable houses or apartments. On top of that a lot of college grads have to save money and they have massive student loans to pay off
In the next 6 months millions who are not living with their parents will be. And parents will be living with their children. The eviction crisis is real and it's a steamroller pretty much nothing can stop.
Unless you own your home
@Subarugirl god damn you’re stupid.
@DeltaCharlieEcho oh my gosh… no need to be an asshole
@Subarugirl no need to be an idiot, and yet there you are.
@DeltaCharlieEcho wow you’re rude and mean
@Subarugirl the median house price in the US is over 400k. Nobody outside of the elite can afford homes right now. The elite were never in any danger of loss in the first place.
@DeltaCharlieEcho we bought out home for 370K
@DeltaCharlieEcho and I can assure you we are not elite
@DeltaCharlieEcho We bought our first house ($55K, about 43 years ago after saving while in an apartment. We fixed the house up with tons of sweat equity, did our own "cabinetpack" in the kitchen, sided, washed, planted, papered, painted, roofed, laid upteen kinds of flooring. Sold at about $85K. Moved into current house, 142K in 1987. Paid for the siding this time, but put in new sinks, painted, planted, laid own own hardscapes, landscapes, drainage, etc. Paid off several years ago. Neighbor's house just sold for a tick over 400K. Elite? Hardly. Just a hardworking Bohunk! I never made more than 49K a year. If people learn to live on 80% of what they make, save, invest, and help others with the rest, they can do it too. In the meantime, we put our daughters through college, and got them each a car, clear- $0 debt. It CAN be done. Both daughters are married, have 3 kids each, and own a house and two cars. They aren't the elite either! Just hard workers, too. And did I mention, our daughters homeschool their kids to boot !
@Massageman you’re almost 70. The world isn’t the same as it was when you lived your life. Your daughters probably has scholarships which are no longer available to men unless you’re of a nonwhite race. You had a reasonable amount of opportunity and difficulty in your life, today we have virtually no opportunity unless we are born the right way. Hell, all I want is to start building equity but I can’t even get a mobile home because all of the mobile home communities in my area are 55+; can’t get a home because the average home price in my area is 460k; can’t get a tiny home because I don’t have a job that affords me the ability to save without sacrificing enjoyment because the minimum wage is so god damned high in my area that otherwise decent jobs are getting devalued by the increases. The life you lived and the opportunities you had are gone. Your daughters were born the right way; half of America wasn’t.
@DeltaCharlieEcho Scholarships are available to both men AND women who have high enough GPAs upon graduation. Are you retarded?
@Ninjazzed not if you’re a white man they aren’t.
@DeltaCharlieEcho My daughters DID have a few scholarships, ALL on merit, NONE restricted by sex/race, etc. & both worked every summer in HS to build up $. When job-looking in 1982, I was told face-to-face, "I could place you this afternoon- if you were a black female." Where was MY equity? When I finally did get hired, my tempy job lasted 19 years because I worked at it. During that time, I saw an entry level clerk move through high level clerical into management within a year- an unheard of timeline- seems her dad was a VP. Where's the equity? I have had 3 careers- graphics, telecom management, massage. When I was offered training- job-related AND NON- I took all I could manage with my day-to-day. When one door closed, at least one other opened, & I always did my best to develop/maintain marketable skills. In the early 80's, I painted, hung shelving, planted, bought an engraver to make & sell badges (& to this day, I STILL do engraving), mowed , pruned, all creating "multiple income streams", & doing whatever it took to keep a roof over our heads.
You mention several times about high prices "in your area"- all the mobile homes "in your area" are for 55+ - housing is costly "in your area"- high minimum wages devaluing others "in your area"- maybe it's time to check out OTHER areas? Dustyn Furguson at "Dime Will Tell" lists places offering free land, along with guerrilla business strategies. Both my daughters have side jobs based on their majors, & have had their work published. Both now have income streams that will earn them money while they handle their "day-to-day".
Yes, opportunities are changing, the world IS different from when I was younger, and it certainly is NOT for the BETTER! We are guaranteed just the "pursuit" of happiness- it's up to us to earn it.
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work."
Thomas A. Edison
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.” Henry Ford
@Massageman It took me 10 years to get moved here, coming here was a dream. When I planned this move initially the housing costs were extremely reasonable and I could even get a 2br apartment for less than $800 a month. Now studios are going for $1300 for 450sqft.
If you look into mobile home communities around the US basically it's the biggest age discrimination area in just about any industry, almost 80% of all mobile home communities in the US are 55+ and the housing prices are out of this world across the US. There's a very serious crash coming with the housing market and I can't wait. It won't benefit me, but all those realtors that ruined it for me and people in my generation, lets just say that many of them will end up in jail for artificially inflating the values of areas.
@DeltaCharlieEcho Thats the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.. ironic that most of the scholarships that were granted to mostly white men and women in my graduating class. You’re thinking of government assistance. Pretty much the only thing white men don’t have full access to.
@Subarugirl And have continued to pay the mortgage or its paid for. Of course, not everybody is up for eviction. But about 10% of the country has not paid their rent or owe a significant amount. Whether now or in 2 months, a lot of people are going to be hurting.
@Subarugirl Dude was rude, but if you have a $370k house you are elite. Very few people can afford that. You may not be elite among your elite peers. I hope this is a huge house and will retain it's value. When the crisis hits and it will, housing prices are going to fall precipitously.
@DeltaCharlieEcho Realtors get bailed out, they don't go to jail.
@Ninjazzed Since y'all are so passionate about this topic, perhaps you will enjoy my 'My Take' which talks about this stuff more in depth.
Winter is Coming. For Real, Are You Ready? ↗
The fact that fewer kids move away from home at age 18 doesn't mean that it is more difficult for them to live independently. Perhaps they are simply less willing to make any sacrifices to establish their independence.
Or things are expensive too or unemployment is big also
@kitty71
1. Things are expensive. If you want your freedom, you settle for not having a new car or brand new furniture. You accept the idea that you will need to have a roommate and you won't eat steak or lobster very often. Things were expensive - in a relative sense - when I was younger. Yes, at one time, a two-bedroom apartment rented for $285 per month, but a decent job only paid $14,000 per year. I suspect that many kids don't want to cut corners and live frugally, so they stay at home to enjoy the nicer things that Mom and Dad have - for "free."
2. Unemployment is falling and I CONSISTENTLY hear employers say that they can't find candidates to fill their slots, not even for entry level jobs. We have been trying to hire a part-time administrative assistant at my church for two months. People send resumes, schedule interviews, and never show up at their appointed time.
They are lucky my mom always told me once you are 18 you are out of my house and no longer my problem you figure it out. I spend two years saving up and live with 3 best friends of mine. Like the ones that have their parents support.