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Looks do matter. You don't see anybody going crazy over someone very unattractive unless they are rich.
I know first hand and believe me, I had a glow up that I never even realized I had. It got a lot easier and smoother for me to talk to women over the years. All I did was eat right, workout, sleep enough, and just took care of my business. To plenty that's hot as fuck, but if you're already considered to be an 8-9/10, then basically you get rejected a lot less.
I've always let my personality do the leading for me, rather than my looks, but I still approach based on looks.. that can be a pretty face and nice body. I only women that I find attractive which is 7-9/10. If I see them as a 6 or below, I probably won't give them much attention.
There is a documentary on Netflix called "Explained" and they talk about several topics. One episode is about attraction.
During that episode they talk about a study that had women rate guys. Then meet those guys.
Same to men, let them rate the women before getting to know them.
The scores of the women drastically changed, for better or worse after meeting the men.
The men's scores of the women barely changed.
I agree with you when you say that looks to matter to women. Of course they do. But they are not even close to the most important thing.
Yeah they're not the most important thing. But they are the most important thing at first
At first? You mean when you haven't even introduced yourself?
What else could be a factor besides looks at that stage?
Exactly dude that's my point 🙄. Without physical attraction first, most women aren't going to want to get to know you
Regardless of your looks you can get into a conversation with some charm and witt.
It doesn't work like that for most men
If you are not charismatic it can be a problem yes.
But if a guy doesn't have the looks and isn't charismatic, he will have a hard time.
There's also the creep shaming that happens if you're an ugly guy approaching
Never seen or even hear of that happing.
There's men that will tell you it has. There are even women that admit it can if an ugly guy is trying to do something charming
That can happen to both. Good looking people can get away with more. That is a given.
More so with ugly dudes though
Ugly girls don't get a free pass either. At least that I know off.
You sure about that lol
For the most part sure. I have ugly and good looking girl friends. I see how guys treat them when getting to know them. You just need to look at their DMs
I dont have to. I already know. Any woman can get attention even good attention from all kinds of men with the technological achievements of the internet and dating apps, any women can get attention and be pickier
Not the ugly ones. You think they get attention easy, but they really don't.
Whatever you say dude 👌
maybe women just aren't into u.
Yeah, i admit it, i'm human, i'm supposed to want someone somewhat attractive so my babies are attractive and they can have offspring and so forth. It also depends on who you are and what's attractive to u. Some people think i'm drop dead gorgeous and others think i look just normal, probably same with everybody else
This take had nothing to do with me kid. But looks aren't that subjective as many people claim. It's becoming more objective
How when it's men that tell us they are usually the more visual sex? Now all of sex it's women that care the most about looks? You guys keep flip flopping when it suits you. The truth is everyone wants to be loved and wanted by someone, but we're just not going to be everyone's choice. It is what it is. There are plenty of men I found attractive that will never lije me back.. o well.
Men are visual but not in the way most women think. And its easy for a woman to move along since she has a plethora of options. Most men dont. Men and women aren't the same
I feel like everyone wants to be with someone they find attractive, whether that be 'OMG WOW' attractive or 'nice' attractive (I hope you understand that lol). I wouldn't want to be with someone I didn't find attractive, but if I went on a date with someone I didn't find attractive, I know someone else would, everyone's preferences/taste etc is different. But I do think personality matters a hell of a lot too, for the most part anyway!
If looks are so subjective, men can get fat then and look like slobs since physical attraction is subjective. I'm sure there are women that will find them attractive 🙄
I mean, many fat people are married/in relationships so that is actually most definitely true lol.
Yeah after the fact. Most women aren't gonna want to date slobs. What in GENERAL betters my chances at success with women? Being a fat slob or being in good shape with a good physique?
Slobs is different. You can be in good shape but be a slob. Better chances yes I'd say a better physique, but definitely wouldn't rule out no one finding a larger person attractive. I know so many people who are on the larger side and had no problem finding someone.
I dont go based on exceptions or "what I've seen stories". I go based on the generalities because generalities are the norm. I shouldn't take my chances as an overweight guy and expect to have a lot of success
I guess it very much depends how overweight you're talking.
Just guys that are out of shape. Chubby to obese. Besides men should strive to be in shape anyway. Being in shape indicates a lot of good things
Abit overweight is honestly not a problem for a lottttt of people, however I can agree with you that on the larger overweight/obese is quite unlikely to be successful.
Even being overweight as a man is a problem. But men shouldn't complain about it and should work out. Got to be in shape.
I agree, but sometimes this happens with medication, injuries etc.
Meh that's rare occurrence. People are lazy and shove food down their throat. Id tell men that have an eating problem if you eat that 3rd doughnut, think about hkw much uglier that shit will make you and how repulsive you'll be to women. Put that doughnut down and do some cardio and lift weights and if it taste good, spit it out
Yes looks matter to women duhhh.
We’re not gonna say it cause we’re not RUDE!
Theso entitled men in podcasts with microphones with an audience, calling themselves alpha men. They say that men are more visual than women and want the best options of women.
LMAO! 😂 I THINK THATS THE OTHER WAY AROUND. I think that’s a coping mechanism.
Men are more visual than wonen but not in the way most women think
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LMAOO!! Sure ……..
That’s why I was still getting decent looking men at almost 300 pounds?
You just proved my point without me having to explain it
300 pounds… aka..
I was gross.
AKA.. “men have no standards “
HELLLOOOOO?
men are visual? F—KING WHEN?
Men look for reasons theyll date a woman
Woman look for reasons they won't date a man. Men and women are not the same
Ok , then you agree that women are more visual and have more standards.
Men are more visual in the sense we find more things atteactive that women wouldn't. Meaning someyhing can look sexy or hot to us. Womens attraction tends to point just straight forward
Ohhhhh.. 🤦🏻♀️
Yup. Womens view of physical attraction is pin point. Mens is all over the place basically
I don't often see a guy that would be universally considered ugly as often as I see women that I've heard guys say are ugly. By the way it the guy on the right supposed to be ugly? He's not handsome, but he's cute! And looks to be really thin that I like 💕
The level of cap in this post is laughable
What does cap mean?
Lying
The only reason I might not agree with this is because every person I have ever disclosed to my friends as a person of interest, was said to be not good looking (I’d like to think from the conventional eye) so maybe there is a majority of girls like me who can’t truly say (a platform with a lot of people) they like a certain type of guy and be heard as loud as a girl who can be.
Looks are subjective but for small minor differences. Usually the men women are attracted to are attractive to plenty of other women
And same for dudes. It’s called human nature. Have some self respect and try to look as good as you can and have confidence and a good personality and you will do better in the long run whether people go for looks first or not. Because the looks can’t hold a person on their own. It takes way more than that. So quit your beefing!!!
Of course not but theyre the most important thing at first. You have to pass that. But where did i complain or say that women are shallow because i didn't and don't know why you're saying quit your beefing
this should be blatantly obvious but for some reason society (for the most part) chooses to be ignorant or in total denial of this.
perhaps it is to preserve the myth that women aren't superficial or judgmental on looks the same way men are or people are too afraid to speak the truth when women are just the same as men in this regard in terms of superficiality.
No matter what anyone says looks do matter. How much they matter though varies from person to person to some people it will matter more and to some people it will matter less.
Confidence does make a difference though to and so does personality and many other things. Attraction isn't solely based on physical appearances but it is a factor.
I get that. But for most people you have to pass the looks barrier first. If you dont pass that, most people won't give you a chance or want to get to know you
I've seen it happen for those that aren't the best looking it honestly just depends on circumstance.
You know oddly enough… (just the picture alone)
both those men scared me. I scrolled and had a jump scare lol
literally- anyways…. I can be accepting of them and I’d personally try to handle a simple cup of coffee- it just being us four:
them, myself, and my soul who is lagging behind me
Looks do matter to a degree, but how you dress/present yourself and your hygiene is equally as important, if not more than your looks for physical most women. At least the former as well as having confidence in yourself you have more control over.
You do just need to be more confident bro. Are there guys out there that it just doesn't matter because they look weird yes but for most guys it really is all about confidence. I can't tell you how many guys that have come to me who struggle with women and they look just fine... nothing crazy about their looks. They just see something else in the mirror.
It has relevance, but there are aspects that can change the equation of attraction. Most women be drawn to guy #1. But guy #2 could have something to offer to some if/when he upped his game. Women feed off the emotional.. a lot. Good looking guys, rockstars... sweating their nasty hair out on stage, and geeky brainy guys... can all stimulate emotion.
Look do matter a lot, of course they do, we're all human beings. However, personality matters more. If a guy isn't attractive to me at first but he has a great personality, that doesn't stop me from being interested, but if it was the other way around, that would stop me.
You're a rare exception to the rule because most women don't operate the way you do
actually, I don't think she is a rare exception - she used the phrase "great personality" (as opposed to "nice guy"). A great personality (or, more accurately, a personality that is charming or humorous (or both), will catch many a girl's attraction, with a caveat - there are boundaries few women would cross regardless of charm and humor. If you weigh over 350 pounds, or smell like rotting broccoli, or fart like you eat nothing but beer and cabbage, or brush your teeth only 1x/week, then all the charm and humor in the world are not going to place many fawning females upon your doorstep.
However, there is more than a bit of honesty in your original question/hypothesis. But I think it would be more accurately stated as this...
While charm and humor are rarely the prime reasons a man falls for a woman, the same cannot be said of women falling for men. I've seen vastly more men accompanied by women "out of their league" than vice versa.
Those poor bastards
Well, realistically... There are far more attractive girls than guys.. So most couples usually the girl is better looking than the guy.. And people take that and say girls don't care that much about looks while they're just working with best thing available that's why they gush over really good looking guys...
This is not true, there are not more attractive girls, it's just that you are guy so you are biased as you are a heterosexual
Who gets more attention Natalie men or women?
Attention from men desperate for sex isn't something to value.
That's irrelevant
My comment was towards the My Take Owner by the way.
@TenderFantasy I wasn't speaking to you
It has everything to do with it. Women are noticeable no matter how they look. You can be 4 or 5, even overweight and still get attention. Men dont get this. Men have to work their asses off to be an attractive man to women. A guy can't be fat or ovweight like a girl can. You have to work out and build your value. Men must create their value. Women must protect the value they automatically have
That doesn't mean girls are more attractive
It also doesn't mean they're ugly either
I knew a guy that managed a gym. He was not your typical gym manager. He was flabby and out of shape he was also bald. He was from Israel and spoke with a very thick accent. He smoked constantly. He was not wealthy and drove an old Cadillac. He did however have the hottest girlfriends and was banging all the women that worked out there. I could never understand that one.
I think that guys who are interesting can get by without good looks.
I didn't read all of this stuff. I will that looks is highly subjective though. I don't say find the guy on the left attractive; he has small eyes and a crooked nose. My boyfriend looks much better than him, if I had to choose between him and the dude on the pic, I'd choose him of course
Subjective but not by that much. A station wagon will never be picked over a Ferrari
There are victims of burns, muscular disorders, and any other condition affecting the physical appearance. They found love. So why can't anyone without those handicaps also find it?
We live in a society of instant gratification. People can be picky all they want, but they shouldn't complain when their checklist is very high. They want people to look and act a certain way, and that can be a recipe for disaster because people don't change unless they want to change.