I am okay with dress rules as long as they are fair to both genders. Places that want to have dress codes should mention rules that applies to everyone regardless of gender and body type. And the dress codes should be specific instead of "dress appropriately/decently" etc because people have different standards for what's appropriate and you cannot expect everyone to interpret it the same way.
For example, you can simply state no sleeveless clothing allowed for anyone, instead of just dress coding girls and giving bullshit reasons like "your bra strap shows and it distracts boys".
You can apply that to other rules too like long hair should be tied and kept away from the face, outerwear should not be see-through, skirts and shorts should not be shorter than knee-length, no tattoos should be showing, pants should not go below the navel, jeans should not be ripped above the knees, etc. Making rules like that ensures that everyone is on the same page, it is understandable for everyone and you are not pointing at any specific group of people.
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I have heard from some friends who work in education that HS girls today are already showing way too much by the way they dress. It’s scary.
There is this really asinine feminist assumption that a young woman can dress how she wants and only the best case scenario is supposed happen (e. g. only the “right” guys will notice, people won’t ever objectify her, etc.).
If any “wrong” kind of guy notices and stares an extra moment it can never be hormonal response that is biological in the 99% of hetero boys DNA. Oh no. That young man was “programmed” or something by our “patriarchal” society to notice a female body. He was “programmed” to have the wrong kind of idea run though his (it’s 100% okay if he was the guy the girl wanted to notice her though).
But you know what play stupid games win stupid prizes. Sure just let young girls dress however they want and see how it works out. I’m sure it won’t distract them from their studies and won’t cause more competition/jealously with other girls. I’m sure it won’t distract boys and if any of the “wrong ones” stare an extra moment or worse say something we can then go off about sexism. But again if the “right guy” stares or say something then it’s good. Not distracting to the education plan or anything. No. Never.
A far better question than it seems. If I'm not mistaken, the aim in some schools to wear a uniform is discipline, and meanwhile to avoid discrimination between wealthy and poor. In my opinion sure girls should be allowed a little freedom, but then, knowing dress codes are dictated by big business taking advantage of teens' ignorance and arrogance, maybe that freedom should somehow stay in control. Anyway, a little decency in schools is a good thing considering their first task being education and teaching, not organising dress code contests...
I think the issue is that the rules don't allow for a persons height, weight or what is available in stores.
It's hard to find affordable shorts that will for example go past a girls fingertips. The same pair of shorts can be fine for a girl who is 5ft and not for someone who is 5'6.
I think so long as you ass cheeks aren't showing it's fine. Not cropped tops are also super hard to find. If they can lift their arms up without a bra showing then whatever.
I think dress codes overall are stupid
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I do. There are many rules and structures to follow in school already, so taking the one away that let's them express themself most isn't going to make them lose all respect for authority. If anything it would be easier to respect authority when it sticks to what is actually important for it to maintain, instead of overreaching into what kind of personal property you must own and wear every day.
If everyone dresses all freaky and sexy then, guess what kids will be desensitized to and not be distracted by anymore? So it's basically a self-solving problem to me. And if teachers have trouble handling themselves around naked kids, then just fire them? Every school should be able to afford an entire non-pedo staff. Full stop.
Yes, actually. I'm a dad of four and I think it's absurd. I also think that the dress code for girls should not be based on how boys react. Change boy behavior not girl dress code.
Freedom for what? To wear provocative clothing? Or choose something that remains modest and respectful? As long as it remains modest and respectful, I don't think there is a need for a dress code. But since nowadays people don't have morals or common sense, I think a dress code is necessary.
Just because you don't have to wear a school uniform like in the UK, doesn't mean you can use it as an excuse to come to school wearing revealing clothes whether they are yoga pants or showing skin. Just as you wouldn't think it's okay for a boy to wear a wife-beater in class.
A school is a place for education, not attention-seeking and promiscuous-like behavior. Because let's call it what it is, attention seeking. It's a competition between girls for the attention of boys. Plain and simple. Otherwise, there is absolutely no excuse to wear revealing clothes.
I know people who have taken their kids out of public school and placed in Christian school because of the inability to focus on school work rather than fashion and OF.
Sagging pants, muscle tees, visible male/female underwear halter, strapless, shorts and skirts shorter than mid-thigh length are not to be worn does make sense.
Change will require a Supreme Court decision and the last time they looked at dress code in schools were the Vietnam War era black armbands violation in Iowa, 1969. One can pretty much run their Only Fan page from the classroom these days.
As long as it is appropriate for school and class, it is ok. A good example is I went to a Jesuit all boys boarding school, and we could grow our hair as long as we wanted, but it always had to be neat, or it had to be chopped. We could wear any shoes, even high heel boots, anything, as long as, they were laced shoes. Basically, you have to dress for the occasion, like u can't wear a tuxedo to work, you will look like a tart. Lastly, there has to be some level of equity of dress, meaning one child can't wear a queen's robe and the other is dressed like a tramp.
In my opinion dress codes are extremely hypocritical bearing in mind modern day political scenarios in some countrys.
First of, i can't stand politics or social norms. And dress codes are one of the many reasons i find it hypocritical. There pressing "be unique, be yourself, stand out be proud, lgbtq stuff". Then they have dress codes, seems ass backwards to me and makes me do mental back flips.
However I will admit some country's have even harsher standards, In japan the education mentallity makes the students based on sex wear a unique outfit which is exactly the same for all the girls and boys. They also make them die there hair jet black, the more "lenient" schools in japan make them dye there hair jet black or only sport there natural hair color. Either scenario just seems extreme to me.
I'll never understand conformity.
Don't be fucking stupid.
The whole point of a dress code is to enforce discipline and a reality check. You seem like the sort of dipshit that will turn up at a formal interview with tats and a goth look, but expect to be taken seriously for "expressing yourself".
News flash, kid. No one gives a fuck about your expressions. But they want things done in a certain fashion and manner. That is one of the reasons for laws, rules and dress codes.
Yea but when a guy touches your butt you'll complain, these rules are made to prevent these things as much as possible, you don't think that you showing your thighs or stomach can effect sexual urges? Mostly during the youth ages when younger people have stronger urgesin my opinion it's understandable, just do what I do, wear what you want and take the dress code violation
I mean outside school we can wear anything we want, in college too we have that freedom so if there's already a choice then i dont feel there to be a need for schools to have a different set of rules in addition to whats already there in general society. it's not like anyone's gonna show up naked there if someone really wants they'd do it anyways
hard to answer, there has to be a certain dress code, but I think maybe the style could be a bit different,
Yep.
Alongside they should teach boys how not to harass, how women aren't objects, how getting a girlfriend seems like everything but isn't, how respect is earned, how you can be close with a girl without being in the zone, etc. Boys need to learn a lot.
Let's stop punishing girls for existing.Freedom for what? To become single mothers while in school?
Of course not. As an insecure and pathetic man who can't control his erections and is attracted to young teens, I feel like women should take more responsibility for my boners and not tempt other men to hit on them when they're MY girlfriend. All rational people (men mostly) would agree with me.
I don't think there should be dress codes at all. Please use common sense here please - no one is showing up naked to school.
I mean boys dress codes are generally more restrictive. The only thing is boys don't want to wear Itty bit shorts our ass cheeks hang out and girls do want to wear stuff like that. If the boys tried it they would be in violation of dress codes too.
Yessss I'm tired of hiding my cleavage every fucking day. And jeans can't hide my giant ass anyways so why should I be restricted to only them?
Ewwwwww please don't, in "america" were already a semi peaceful society, that allows freedoms...
I usually try and see if I'm gonna snap and spend the rest of my life in jail once a year, cause womens freedoms are so bad. Don't make it worse..Nope. Equal rights love. Get with the program. Don't you know giving women better rights than the boys is sexist, and all the feminists claim they want equality?
No. It is not appropriate to dress like a whore in school.
I believe that they should maintain the dress code policy. Most adults also have to follow a dress code for work some even have to wear uniforms. You can wear whatever you want when you're off school/work.
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