Why Nice Guys Struggle To Get Women (Page 3)

[cth96190]

I found it odd how, on paper, I was supposed to be everything that women were supposed to want, but before I turned 30 I could almost not get a date.
About age 30 I gave up and stopped trying.
I even began to avoid women, because lonliness and a need to have someone to love had morphed into bitterness and resentment.
It seemed that the less interested that I was, the more intered some women became.

[Exterminatore]

Nice take. This is exactly what I’ve been saying for years.

[PcSucks]

Forget the post lets just talk about Rick and Morty from this point on.

[jss123]

From what I have seen Bad boys or bad girls tend to be the most sexually attractive people. Let's be honest sexual attraction is a huge part in this. No matter how fantastic someone is no amount of niceness will make up for them being unattractive..
The problem with with someone being sexually attractive often comes narcissism. Sometimes abuse with it.

[lord_chilled]

This one is a social conditioning problem.

Many men believe that being good, or bad has a significant impact on attraction.

That couldnt be further from the truth.
Attraction doesn't care about good or bad. It only cares about how good looking and masculine you are.

Once people realize that, its good.
I plan on teaching my boys from a young age, when i have them.

Dont want them to repeat my mistakes.

[ANK360]

i got decent looks tbh , and i treated most of the women in nice way , can't help that's how i am programmed , and as you said i got zoned , and now the thing is i am not interested in anyone , i just reject most of the approach , that's the side effect of getting zoned by girls i guess but fine i reject all the good looking girls as well and that gives me a boost these days !

[JimmyPage]

Guys with "Manly" qualities usually have a lot of testosterone and testosterone tends to make people aggressive or "mean" for some reason, nice guys most of the time dont produce as much testosterone so they are more mellow, you can't have a win win situation

[NerdInDenial]

Th only solution in this case is for the guy to walk away. There’s no Need to be a friend if that is not your intention.

[Poormanscomedian]

I am only friends with the one, I might be friendly, but not friends. Not with my age or younger. I really only have older female friends.

I think world is a lot more dangerous today. When I was a kid , i can only remember one murder , no drugs being used, theft was rare and so were home break ins. Today , it takes 15 minutes of the news to mention all the murders.

[emmily2396]

I was talking about ancients times and before that.

[Poormanscomedian]

I am very picky, and a guy should be if he is going t have kids with someone. I look for attractive , moral, believes in God, no tats, none smoker, non drinker, doesn't have kids, and doesn't do drugs, parents are still married, no diseases. Now how many women does that leave available? But if one meets these standards and if I meet hers, and we get married , I am sure it is going to last until death do us part.

Women and men don't date long enough, have sex way to soon, don't discuss the big issues before they get married.

If a woman doesn't think I am good enough to marry , then I am not good enough to be friends. I also don't want to be second choice , so I will leave her with her choice and move on. I also don't want to hear all the problems she is having with Mr wonderful.

[Poormanscomedian]

Also women are different today. They don't really want one guy for the rest of their lives. Women used to want to get married to guy and have kids and be married for life. They wanted a nice guy on children's behalf. Now women want partners not husbands and most don't want children. But from what I see, women don't stay with same guy very long, They don't work at same place very long either. Not much loyalty anymore. Not in relationships or in retail business these days.

[ROCKS128]

Girls prefer guys of such type.

A women always tends to choose nice guys,
I have never seen or heard any women living a good life with an asshole...

[Poormanscomedian]

If that was true , there would never be divorces, which 2 out of 3 end up in. There wouldn't be any restraining orders issued either. Most people marry the wrong person or date the wrong person. It is because women are nice , they stay with them.

[ROCKS128]

Well that is not the case in my country.
Here 1 out of 25 marriage leads to divorce.. may be less.

And divorce has Many Reasons, there are people who take divorce happily coz they make proper choice.

[Tomsta]

People often confuse nice guy with door mat. You can still get the girl and be a nice guy. Im a classic case of this

What women dont want is a door mat

[Sixgun77]

That's because until very recently nice guy MEANT doormat.

[Servus09]

At least you are willing to admit that you like masculine men. Maybe more of you women should speak up and be honest. If you haven't noticed already, even the American Psychologist Association is going after "toxic masculinity" in an effort to curb the very masculine traits women find attractive.

Who do you think is more likely to respond to this anti-masculine bullshit? Men who would rape and murder you? Or men who want to protect and help you?

[nameuser1]

That's the biggest bunch of bullshit ever your just justifying those abusive assholes that the nice guys don't like a dude that hits girls won't hit a man and the nice guy that is to whatever will flat out beat his ass every time and never lay a hand on the girl got a lol of subject but you get it

[OrdinarieGuy]

I can attest to this, i started working on being a self confident man with high self esteem early on.

There is always women wanting me and im not bad at all. People say im a really nice and cool guy but i never do anything that goes against my beliefs or let anyone treat me less than i deserve.

[MrMilti]

Women like assertive men and "nice guys" are usually lacking that trait.

[megaman242]

I'm not the best looking one out there but I have still gotten around the block a few times. If I like someone I just flat out try and date them, I dont show them my awesome power of niceness. I dance, I can sing, I playfight what ever feels right with that one, I even teases them slightly, dare to be your self but put some sexy on top.

[Chthou95]

I never see any guy in real life calling himself a nice guy though. And there are a lot of women who do like guys who mistreat them or disrespect them for whateever reason. So i pay attention to actions, not what women say. Not bashing your take though

[Anonymous]

This is true, I am a naturally a nice guy, but I found out that doesn’t do you any favors when I was a teenager, when chasing women I have to act different or else I would never get them, you have to be a little bit of a dick a little bit cocky, but not in a douchy way, because that can turn girls off quick aswell

[Wally48]

Absolutely true. Every guy has to be "a little bit cocky, a little bit confident" without coming across as a dick. And it doesn't matter if you're short, pudgy, and not that good looking (let's say a 2 out of 10). There are plenty of 2 out of 10 girls that would love to date and fuck a similar rated guy; but they want a MAN, someone they perceive in a primal way as a protector and leader. Not a whiny little Incel that thinks he deserves sex because he's a "nice guy".

[BabyBirdy]

People often confuse nice with words like push over, naive, weak, etc.

Nice isn’t synonymous with spineless

[Lightning8]

Omg finally someone with a brain

[StickStickity13]

Guys get too caught up with one girl and completely tune out other women. Unless you're in love, you should have 3-4 other women you're talking up for this exact reason. Then you get perspective

[Wally48]

Absolutely true. The only time in my single life when I felt completely in control of my "girl scene" was when I was dating three women at one time. I was never at the mercy of a particular girl for emotional or sexual attention, and it really showed in my self confidence and peace of mind. That's why it is so important for Betas like myself to learn and practice Alpha behaviors. And I'm not talking about being an asshole here. By far, the Alphas I've personally known are helpful, nice people. Rollo Tomasi is right. Keep at least 3 plates spinning.

[Anonymous]

“Normal looking guy, can’t improve looks, not good looking enough..”

What about the girl? Is she a top model? It’s okay not to find someone attractive but why squash the approacher? The population of the “perfect” looking people is not a lot. The majority are the average looking people. Stop acting like girls are the only one able to choose. Why is nobody talking about their nose-jobs or excessive make-ups?

[emmily2396]

I don't get why some people get defensive over this. I just explained the reasons a girl may put a guy in the friendzone and may pursue an asshole instead to help guys in that situation. I didn't say they were right to do so. I even gave suggestions on how to fix the situation.