Can't people do a job without expecting a TIP? I mean expecting a $1 tip for just handing someone an ice cream cone? Or maybe they need a job that pays a decent hourly wage so they don't need to live on TIPS. If they want tips that bad then play your jews harp on a corner with a can on the ground and win them over with your talent.
The tipping thing is kind of weird, but I don't make a big deal out of it. I don't know how it got started.
Tippers are the ones who started the trend, not the employee. After a while it became tradition and expected. Eventually it became a legal thing, with lower minimum wage for traditional tipping jobs, with the tips expected to make up the difference. The employees are still required to make minimum wage - it's just a combination of hourly plus tips.
Tipping has gotten out of control in my opinion. Restaurant servers have been tipped my entire life. But 10% was the typical tip when I was young. Then it increased to 15%. Then to 20%. Now a lot of people tip 25-30% or more.
Plus a lot of jobs that were not tipping jobs in the past expect a tip now. Some things that are fairly expensive expect a tip. My friend has a hair salon. She charges $40 for a basic hair cut. She expects and normally gets a 20% tip, making the hair cut $50, which is ridiculous. There is no way in hell I'd tip for a $40 hair cut. I'll tip for a $12 hair cut, but not a $40 cut.
I rarely leave a tip in those jars at coffee shops, etc. Those guys are getting paid a normal wage. My friend owns a coffee shop. He says his employees make $20-25 per hour on top of their regular wage.
Servers at a restaurant can make a very good living through tips, especially if they only work the busy hours. There is no reason for expected tips to get higher and higher. It's gotten out of control, and it's the CUSTOMERS who are doing it, not the employees. I've even seen it on this site when someone asks what a tip should be. It amazes me how many people recommend a tip of 30%. THEY are the ones creating the expectation, not the employees.
It's completely absurd for a job that should be minimum wage to pay as much as an engineer, programmer or scientist - or double the pay of a very hard working skilled trades person.
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PLUS the fact that since a tip is a percentage of the sale- and the cost of the SALE is ALREADY increasing each month or two- there is ALREADY an "escalator clause" built into the tips! When I was a kid, we'd get a 97Ā¢ pizza from the the local pizza place. Sales tax was 3%, bringing that to $1.00, delivered. My dad would tip the driver 10Ā¢ in the summer and 25Ā¢ in the winter. The drivers were ecstatic! Taxes are now over three times what they were when I was a kid, and the city/state services are three times worse! Plus a delivery charge is added AND the drivers expect a tip, too. by the way, I am a Massage Therapist and have been for 30 years. I seldom get tips. Even when I worked at a "big name" spa where tips were a default (unless over-ridden by the guest), it would amaze someone to see how many tips were retracted. As a Therapist, I was making only $29 out of the $135 for the la-de-dah hour long (50 minutes on the table) - the house took the rest. Now, as a sole-proprietor, I get more than twice that even with NO tip!
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Something back then that actually had pretty decent tips for a kid was a newspaper route. For a 10-11 year old kid, the occasional 10 cent tip added up. Every now and then I'd get a 25 cent tip. Christmas tips got pretty substantial. I'd actually get dollar bills sometimes. I heard of guys getting a five, but I don't think I ever did.
The normal pay per paper was 2.5 cents. We did not throw the paper in the driveway. We rode up the driveway, walked to the door, and put the paper inside the screen door (dogs hated it). I remember when I moved to another state and saw them throwing papers in the driveway, I thought it was lazy and rude as hell.
I delivered pizzas in the mid-late 70s. Back then tipping for pizza delivery was not as common as it is now. For an entire 8-10 hour shift I might get $2-10. It depended on the location. Suburbs did better than in the city, but was still pretty low.
Yup. I remember my first and only paper route. A weekly, 25Ā¢ a month. Got 35Ā¢ from several people - was very happy. Ran my 67 people up to 90 in the year I had the route. You're right - walked up to each door, tucked behind the door, in mailbox hooks, or behind the grille on the screen door.
It's just a state of the times. Why does the gov't rely so much on lottery to raise funds? Because everybody wants the quick fix and it passes people off less than just raising taxes.
My sister was a server for a few years. And I remember her telling me about a verbal exchange between her and her boss about her wage. And her bosses response was "You don't understand how hard it is to have to pay someone minimum wage". Her boss was saying it was unfair because so many workers don't deserve that.😆
But looking at it from an employers point of view in say a restaurant you have 3 main expenses the operating expenses such as rent or lease of the business, the product you sell, and the payroll. Well there really isn't much you can do about rent. But the other two can be manipulated. Now you can raise prices or you can reduce portions. And since people don't typically want to pay ore especially in rough economic times. Businesses typically opt to shrink the portions. But in times such as after a pandemic the may be forced to do both to stay afloat.
So prompting increased tipping allows those with the means to give more while just guiltily the rest.😆 the end result is this becomes part of the norm when other companies start to copycat it.
For a person who comes from a country where tipping isn't part of our culture, I think it's absurd when I hear people from the USA speak about it. To me, tipping is a form of appreciation for good services. I don't just go around handing people money just cause they think they deserve it. What would you do if that was the only money that I had, for my meal only!!! You'll only be nice to a person if they add in some extra cash. Or you'll be nasty and still expect me to tip you. I am not that kind of person regardless of whether that's how they earn; from tips. Sort yourself with your boss. It's not my duty to pay double.
Now, if we can just get the food industry to agree with this.
Maybe it's the difference in the living standards in the countries... But if the Americans take a stand, then maybe they could influence change.
From what I hear about the states many employers donāt pay a livable wage. Minimum wage in the states is also abysmal compared to where I am. So it forces service industry workers to rely on tip. We do have tipping here where I am too, but itās optional. I will admit though itās getting out of control in the last decade itās gone from 10-15-20% to 15-18-20% and now itās 18-20-25% cost of living is going up but most have to focus on their own bills and canāt make ends meet with tipping getting as extreme as it is
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They shouldāve chosen/applied to a job that didnāt require them to live off tips
We actually largely consider tipping rude in my culture (Japan). Taxi drivers and prostitutes might accept but it is largely considered in very poor manner to tip.
I think this is a good way. It prevents business owners from underpaying their employees and acting like beggars for tips. A working person's livelihood shouldn't depend on charity.
I agree.
Is that a [penis tip] joke about prostitutes, or is that really an expectation to tip them money?
@KingslayerC I'm hardly an expert on prostitutes but I think the people most expecting tips in our society work very underground! So not a penis tip joke!
Interesting, thanks for clarifying. If I ever bang a Japanese prostitute, I'll make sure to tip š
Anywhere else besides the US you have service personal that gets paid a decent wage and tips are only a bonus and in countries even forbidden or not accepted.
You have to ask American restaurant owners why they underpay their workers and expect customers to pay half of the wage.
Because they seem to be able to get away with it.
"Anywhere else besides the US you have service personal that gets paid a decent wage"
This is not even close to being true. First of all, the US is not the only tipping country. Plus there are a lot of places where the tip is just included in the bill.
The large majority of people in the world would be WAY better off working at a tipping job in the US, even if they didn't get a single tip. But since they do get tips, do you realize how much money they can make? They can make a LOT of money. Someone working a tipping job can easily become a millionaire if they are good at saving. That qualifies as a "decent wage" in my opinion.
Are you familiar with free to play games online? Free games are the most expensive games out there. This is why so many companies are going to that format.
Tipping jobs in the US are much the same. They make WAY more money by working at a lower wage and getting tips. If the tips were eliminated, they would almost certainly make far less money.
I mean we live in a free market with some government intervention.
People are just trying to make their own way through this life. And you act like it's their fault that one of the few options they had at the time, was a job that pays tips.
Maybe they have a talent for being a waitress or whatever?
Why are you shitting on them for doing what it takes to maintain their life and their existence on this planet?
You sound economically ignorant like a communist but also morally abhorrent like a conservative.
Or you could just not be such a cheapskate bastard and try to make somebody's day better. In many states restaurants are allowed to pay waitresses less than minimum wage because the state expects them to get tips. Young people working their first job have to pretty much take whatever job they can get, the same goes with stupid people. Have you ever been in this position or did you just live off of other people's money your whole life? Or live off mommy and daddy's money until after you graduated college? You should happy they are trying to work instead of just living off bum handouts from the state and sucking up tax dollars, you old skinflint.
Guess how much money State Senators take in as "tips". And these jerk offs have the audacity to not give servers a decent wage?
You seem like a Boomer, so let me inform you that wages haven't increased with inflation.
Don't want to feel pressured to tip? Retire to a country where people are paid a living wage.
Wages have increased with inflation though. They haven't kept up with the COVID induced inflation, but everything before that was okay. Like, a tiny bit above historical inflation.
I don't disagree. But now it seems like it is expected, and if you don't you get roasted on Tik Tok.
I agree tipping culture in America is out of hand.
It doesn't exist to the same degree where I live. If I see the default option is higher than 18%, I don't tip.
I only tip if the service earned it.
You make better money being an illegal.
Tipping was originally not a bad idea, that has morphed into being a monstrous bastardization of its original intent.
All it would take to get rid of tipping is for an establishment to slightly raise their prices to the customer, and pay their employees a fair wage.
Before you know it, there would no longer be any tipping.
Who's going to take the first step?
Probably no one.
I donāt have a problem with it. I always try to tip. Many jobs pay menial wages. Therefore, I like to help when/where I can. Itās not my place to judge them because I donāt know them or their situation. Perhaps they are looking for higher paying jobs, but nothing opens up to them. Depending on where you are in the world, itās hard finding employment, especially ones that pay their employees well. Therefore, people take what that they can get.
Im glad its not really a big thing in the UK. There are decent minimum hourly wages here. Delivery drivers make. more than most fresh graduates and that is without tips. They probs get minimal tips anyways. Tipping here is a bit more common in fine dining restaurants. I don't tip in general unless i am back home in South Asia where i know the wages are so low that its literally exploitation of labour. In some restaurants here in the UK, they add a discretionary 10-15% gratuity, i often tell them to please take it away from my bill.
It's still not enough to pay for food, bills etc. Our country is f
We are run off our feet
Why are you blaming employees? It's employers who are at fault and the government. Do you know that there's a different minimum wage for tipped staff? It's $2.13 per hour. So if you don't tip they don't make rent. If they have a bad spell, they can't afford groceries.
Don't blame the people working blame the system. It's fucked. Tipping shouldn't be a persons wage it should be a little extra on top.
And that is the nonsense about it. Why do these people get away with making someone deliver their stuff in order to make money? That just puts a lot of money into the restaurant's pocket while giving the drivers diddly squat..
I feel like tipping should not be enforced on you, that's how it is in my country. It should be something you willingly give out
Well, you willingly give it out as you feel you have to now.
In China, Iāve tried giving tips and they donāt accept. Even if you insist giving it to them, they usually never accept. I like that.
The other day elderly courier delivered my meal, I gave her a tip 10 times bigger than my meal was worth. Because she was older, she already probably struggles with health and life and still she works and provides for herself and her grandchildren. I found that admirable.
Tell me you haven't worked crappy jobs in your life without telling me.
Just don't tip and move on🤷🏽āāļø, it ain't that serious. Meanwhile people that work in those industries tend to rely on those tips. The same way you relying on whoever is taking care of your entitled self. Good luck to that person.
I bet panhandlers will expect tips on the money you just gave them. š§
It's basically as American thing of "my job and brand of democracy are shit, and two faced. But lets disguise that with this culture of paying over paying."
Private businesses take and take, while relying on socialist ideals in their customers to give and give.
This is why Americans are a disastrous experiment.
Average rent right now in the US $1,702 as 30% should be spent on rent, someone needs to earn $5,674 just to make it. That's $35.00+ an hour! Now average wage in the US is $19.35 for young earners for older earners it's $34.75. Is it any wonder they are asking for a bit more help? And it's an ask, not a demand! They have a job, they are doing a service and they are simply asking...
Walmart. com, has where you can order food online either using your Debit card or EBT card, they have a monthly membership which I got it's $13.73 a month this way I can get my groceries delivered to me free well, not complaining, but they still offer customers to tip the driver who delivers my groceries to my door mind my transportation is limited I have no vehicle in the family, but I agree these places offering tips is crazy.
I know I agree. Everyone expects a tip these days. Sandwich shops and coffee shops often have tip options. Itās ridiculous. Iām sorry, youāre supposed to be tipped for doing your job? If you drive something out to me with your vehicle, or wait on my table, Iām happy to tip. You donāt get tipped for doing your job.
I really like to tip a person if they did a good service. Why not? I was in places where i paid people and they did bad work. Then i see someone doing the same job but putting more effort. I want to tell them i appreciate their work and make their day. So I find tipping to be a good Thing. I live in a poor country where tipping people means a family will have more to eat for the rest of the month
As a former server and then pizza boy, I'd like to say that not everyone can just get a skilled profession. With that said a mufucka with a nice smile and attention to customers can make a shit ton of cashola! The pics you've displayed is just begging.
Actually, a freeway offramp beggar makes way more than a pizza delivery person. I'm beginning to think even more than me per day.
There's some nonsense! Have you actually asked offramp beggars? Are you one?
I've seen them drive away in very nice cars after their shift. That is enough for me. Plus it's tax free money.
You didn't really answer, but alright. My final question if you choose to actually answer of course, is why did you go extra beggar when I explained that's there's still money in foodservice? If you want to stiff on a low level, than ok.
United states wages for restaurant servers is abysmal.
Tipping should not be required, these places need to start paying realistic wages.
@uwotm8e I've only ever seen them in restaurants, and most of the time they aren't tip jars or signs, just waiters and delivery people who expect tips through an unspoken but commonly known viewpoint. Most people anywhere I've been frown on people who don't tip those professions, even if they aren't one of those workers, so there hasn't been any incentive to remind people to tip (they just do it automatically out of social acceptance fear).
You clearly have never worked in the customer service industry. A small tip can make your day, especially if your on a lower wage. It makes your hard work a bit more worth getting out of bed in the morning
Sorry this came off as rude. I haven't splet much. But yes, we in the customer service industry work very hard and a small tip can make our days
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Most places have tip jars in case people are feeling generous, but you don't have to tip in most cases. So I don't see why your panties are in a bunch about it
If you can't go around on the money you charge for a service, you aren't charging the right sum. Tipping should not be a regular thing, it can be an exception.
I got takeout from a new place that opened in town. I ordered it on line and did not intersct with a live person. When I was about to place the order there was a section that asked how much of a tip I wanted to leave. A tip for what?
Many jobs pay under minimum wage and expect employees to make it up in tips. I find the entire system to be badly broken - but I know the workers really do need the money so I tip well
I think you earn tips, none of this "you should tip regardless" nonsense.
Or how about tipping at self checkout?
It has gotten out of hand.
I have never heard of tipping at self-checkout yet. Is that really a thing?
In Spain we dont tip, your boss should be the one who pays you. If u do an amazing job then i will tip u for being good at it and making me feel comfortable and make me have a good time! This tipp thing is such a nonsense for spaniards...
well i certainly stopped tipping unless i'm at a restaurant where a server is actively serving me for a good chunk of time. no tips for handing me a drink at a coffee shop or whatever. that's ridiculous.
i'm a good tipper but with all these "mandatory" 30% tips everyone wants now i only tip 20% in a sit down restaurant, nowhere else
Tipping comes from the slave days.. so let that sink in..
That is why UK has no Tipping..
We have an optional tip
@chicken_nugget24 Yeah which is weird but I never tip in UK cuz not my job to pay wages to people your boss or the companies need to step up instead of being greedy.
I donāt see why you need to tip somebody for making you an ice cream cone. You already pay around seven or eight dollars for an ice cream cone at Häagen-Dazs which is outrageous.
Holy Cow! That much? Must be a lot of people loving their ice cream.
I think it's just the culture in the US. I live in the UK and I do tip but not usually at restaurants since eating put can be pretty pricey. I only tip my barber, taxi drivers and food delivery drivers
Ya, it's getting out of hand.
We save someone's life, but we don't have a tip jar in the ambulance.
In Brazil, the habit of tipping is not common, except on some menus that are already included, but it is common for people to ask at intersections after a street performance 🤔
In Australia we don't tip much. It is insulting on both sides in my view.
A nice person who isn't nice to their waiter (or server), isn't a nice person.
Woooow 😮 For a 56 year old, youāre pretty prejudice/racist and a huge cunt.
You are the people roasting others who don't tip on Tik Tok. So who is really immature? šš
You donāt have to tip but yeesh š¬ For one thing, you didnāt have to be offensive about it by bringing up Jews. That was too far. I mean, literally everyone is trying to make money. I may be on TikTok but I donāt do that. I donāt know what dildo you shoved up your ass so hard thatās making you this grumpy, but calm down, Grandma.
You aren't too smart are you? A Jew's harp is a musical instrument. The Jew's harp, also known as jaw harp, juice harp, or mouth harp, is a lamellophone instrument, consisting of a flexible metal or bamboo tongue or reed attached to a frame. Despite the colloquial name the Jew's harp most likely originated in Siberia, specifically in or around the Altai Mountains, and has no relation to the Jewish people. Next time read before you go off on someone.
Not even when you are wrong?
Well then guess this is goodbye.
Well, guess this is goodbye then. You need help, which is no surprise on this site.
Iāll never understand why either. I donāt tip Uber drivers, I donāt tip door dashers, I donāt tip Instacart, I donāt tip restaurants
So you are the guy who posts on Tik Tok that the drivers eat your food and leave empty wrappers in the bag.
What?
So you think tipping is a bunch of nonsense and wanna come at me cause I just donāt tip? Donāt start with me
Ah haa! You are one of the ones in G@G who don't have a sense of humor. Duly noted!
I most definitely have a sense of humor. When I find something funny
Now you think you know me. You never ever will
No loss I'm sure.
Your brand of funny is these comedians? using profanity and sex to get laughs. I can't say much for those who can't get laughs without it. The old comedians like Bob Hope, go laughs without that. šš
@yesterdayschild I keep telling you that people on G@G have no idea what humor is. All they know is dick and pussy. I got your comment though. :)
@Daniela1982 I know what sense of humor but Iām not gonna keep repeating that. What I find funny you might think is stupid so does that mean you donāt have a sense of humor? When I find something itās because itās actually funny and not stupid
Okay bro
What did she say that was supposed to be funny? Yāall older than I am so shut up and yāall would think what I find funny is disrespectful
I FIND DIFFERENT THINGS FUNNY DEAL WITH IT š
Do yāall think blasting music in a library is DISRESPECTFUL or funny? I think itās funny. Thereās something called āPREFERRED TYPE SENSE OF HUMORā
I find it funny how youāre still talking and who are you @daniela1982 I donāt care š
With a MHO of 7% I can tell you don't give a shit about a lot. Someone needs to grow up and get some nads if you get easily offended on here. I'll explain it. You don't tip, which would piss off food delivery people. So to get even they eat your food next time. Some find that funny and that you might deserve it for being a tight wad. I bet you are always there looking for a raise in your job but can't pay it forward to delivery people who are trying to make money doing theirs. Maybe you should spend some money on gas and go get your own food, etc. In case you didn't notice gas is not cheap. Delivery drivers pay for their gas to deliver your food Mr. El Cheapo. *Rolls eyes* ššš
Agreed. I especially hate being asked for a tip BEFORE getting my foordi/drink. This is almost a veiled threat to fuck up my food if I don't tip enough.
itās because corporations are evil and donāt pay enough
It is ridiculous and I refuse to participate.
They refuse to fairly compensate their help
It's like they expect us to pay their employees. But tipping is like an institution now. Even if you get bad service you are expected to tip.
sheltered, privileged buffoons. Must be nice having rich parents
Seems like itās becoming worse so must be because of inflation they need more money
Too many people only want easy money.
I don't like the tipping thing.
In my country, tipping is not a custom.
Tipping isnāt tax free money
Is it them or their employer paying $3 an hour?
It's ridiculous
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