Girls Do Like Nice Guys, Just Not All of Them (Page 2)

[Mesonfielde]

The only thing I don't understand is: If it's obvious that a guy helps a girl out with "guy problems" because he's interested and he likes the girl, why is it a problem for the girl to have the ball in her court? She is supposed to be like "he's nice and he always helps me and is so reliable, I should be with him because I can trust him" but noooo. That's not how it goes. The question is, so we aren't supposed to listen to a girl's guy problems and help her, but tell her "you should be with me"?

[VALEN_tine_ANGEL]

i was a good person. but I was too nice and always did what people told. both were the same, males and females, all they did was taking benefit from me, and blamed me because I was too easy. so I tried to be more assertive and build my own leadership behavior. now I am not too easy anymore.

if you are in that condition, I can't blame you but you have to change. being nice and devout is good but being nice and rational is better. thus, we can be a good person without being enslaved.

[VALEN_tine_ANGEL]

girls just don't like guys who are less masculine than them. that is why males were not born to be submissive. no matter how gentle or good we are, we can never be attractive if we dedicate ourselves as a too-good person who always lets anyone else win to us. we should be good to each other. but don't let anyone take benefit from our kindness.

i know many good guys who have good relationships and marriages with women. of course those guys are not losers who would like to be enslaved anytime.

[rotarymoon]

There are Good and Bad people. Attractive qualities mostly are neither bad or good...something like jewelery or bling. Whoever sports the most wins or well is the most attractive one.

I mean how many women here would not want to f*** Spartacus? or Crixus? and they are doing some Good in the show.

[Kauto_Star]

When a woman dicusess negative issues with her relationship to another. She may not realize how misleading and disempowering it is. The man will construe it as a "tip" of what not to do, that aid him in success. When really it isn't worth a ha-penny. Then the WAY some women rejects some men are at a loss how to talk to ANY woman. As a result you'll find angry hetrosexual men who hate, resent women. Informative, clear and honest is your essay.

[Kauto_Star]

Then you get the situation where a woman flirts with a man (she considers to be an imbecile) coming out with lies like how interested me. Why approach me if you don't like me. Are you aware how trouble a man can get himself into if he talks to woman. Harassment, eye "rape" or if he went to went to woman said he'd love to screw her are three examples. You see men are told things that he would construe as the "correct" way to get a girlfriend and they don't work.

[Kauto_Star]

The reason why these guys say that women are bad-minded, liars, hypocrtites and coniving. Is because they've been LIED TO and MISLED. For example the men get told things "Women don't like sex". "men are perverts" "I've got a boyfriend" time and time again. Get treated like it's a 'sin' to talk to or have an attraction to woman. Also the ambiguous things that some women come with like one I heard recently "I love attention, but I don't being approached". What does that mean? Clarification please!

[Kauto_Star]

Thanks for article. Was this difficult for you to write. I've gone many years asking this question even before the Internet was around. what I got as answers, "I don't know", sarcastic put downs, and silence. Thanks again for steering in the write direction.

[That-Guy]

I like the fact that you pointed out "jerks started out nice." Then after girls say "why do I always go out with jerks?" Which sends a message to the lonely nice guy that he needs to be a jerk.

good job.

[Cool-Relax]

Haha, I love the last line there.

That's a good way of putting it though--people aren't just one type. It's true for everything. No one fits into one category since there are so many different things that make up who we are as individuals.

[BunnyToast]

This is very true, actually. I have both assertive and passive nice guy friends I can definitely say that if a guy doesn't show interest, I won't even consider him myself. So those passive guys... just wait around forever and ever.

[Cool-Relax]

No, that's not how it goes, because a guy in that situation isn't giving the impression that he likes the girl, he's helping her with another guy. She's going to see a guy like that as a friend since he isn't showing interest.

[DrJones]

People use the word "nice" to mean a variety of things, which causes lots of confusion for anyone talking about "nice guys." Kudos for noticing this and explaining it clearly!

[whoblitzell]

Are you aware British psychologists actually proved women are more attracted to men with dark psychological traits such as narcissism, thrill seeking (reckless disregard for others property) and pathological lying. Its not up for debate, it's medical fact women compete for men that show them no attention.

[Cool-Relax]

I never said that women can't make the first move; that's not the issue I was addressing. Regardless of who makes the first move, most women don't want a pushover.

[Cool-Relax]

Who said the second guy doesn't have the balls to ask a girl out?

If you want to be a douche, go ahead, but there are a lot of girls who you won't appeal to.

[Mesonfielde]

But.. that's why he cares enough to be willing to help in the first place... oO

But of course, his interest is not that blatantly obvious, because he's not saying "hey, let's F---".

[rwdude11]

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[Cool-Relax]

I was expecting some negative feedback when I wrote this, but that hasn't been the case so far.

Thank you everyone! :]

[blufrenzy93]

Yes.

you hit the nail right on the head.

i completely agree with the two types of nice guys.

i want an assertive guy, not a push over.