because the closer you are to being your 'ideal' self the more the desire to get there goes higher... however like anything, getting that last 10% is the most difficult if not impossible... so their chase and dissatisfaction continues until they lose their minds
TLDR. Your profile doesn't list your age, but I have doubts about your authority on what makes women tick. I can tell you they are extremely competitive, especially about men and dating, and most of them have this incessant need for the celebrity worship and comparo shtick which is a giant fail for a lot of reasons. Just look at that kardashian dipshit - she's all the rage. [shrug]
@FreshOutaIdeas - Sure. They do all manner of artificial bullshit. It's always just ALL about the FEELZ. And those feelings are highly likely to change at any given moment. They'll tell you that is their right and prerogative to do so as well. Just ask them!
Haha, very true! It's even worse when you see genuinely attractive women acting out, when they never even needed to in the first place! Can't stand their nancy little dramas, they should save it for their little gossip groups... Even then, they normally end up being handbag-swinging contests anyway!
@FreshOutaIdeas I bet you will fall in love with a drama queen. All women are drama queens, girly, they like make-up and shopping. It is natural. Boys and girls are different. Girls work hard to look for you guys and for their confidence.
@Shezadi - For sure... I did. A queen in all ways. I finally realized I had to be the 'REAL MAN' and then she was WAY happier. About thirty years now... :)
@Shezadi - She wanted me to lead, to take control, to not accept her whining and complaining. Women want to respect their man - otherwise the whole thing goes downhill fast. They want a guy that is ambitious, accomplished, good looking, rich, capable, and steady. And one that will entertain them. If he ignores her, or gets fat and lazy and drinks beer and watches sports, she's highly likely to bail. Or cheat. Or at least shut down sexually.
The burden of performance is on the man. About half of them are not up for the job.
she sounds like me, say hello to her on my behalf, I am her long lost twin, lol! I want my boyfriend to let me be a drama queen and immature. He is 24 and unemployed. I and my parents are waiting for him to become independent. Every thing is perfect about my boyfriend expect the fact he is unemployed.
@Shezadi - well, that would be a non-starter in my book. I would bid him farewell and date others. Tell him to circle back when he gets his shit together. You have to be willing to walk away. The way it is now is highly likely how it will always be. There's more to love than just a cutesy emotion. He needs to be able to support you and the 84 children you want to have with him.
@Shezadi No, I will not fall in love with a girly drama queen... Believe me when I say that if you think "Good Time" guys like me will deal with a woman (long term) that has the emotional IQ of a peanut, then girls like you (who claim to want big strong guys like me) will find youselves gravely mistaken.
That's completely true, I'd have to be a homosexual if I wanted a "woman" that thought and acted exactly as I do, a man. Except as girls like you hopefully grow a little wiser with a little more age/experience, you'll come to learn that there is a *BIG* differential between a childish brat, and a wholesome feminine woman.
@Browneye57 has a good understanding of what women want (need), but going by his account his woman was likely a decent one, in that she was mature enough in her femininity to know where to tow the line in any am-dram shit-testing antics - given that he was providing her what she needed.
I been with many women (relative to my young age), and some the best-worst examples of "girly-girls" like you, is me being put into situations where (out of self-defence) I've broken jaws and severely hospitalised people... All thanks to that drama-queen bullshit insolent little girls that mooch around claiming to be "women needing strong men", keep spouting about.
Only thing I'll say to @Browneye57 ; money is great to have within the confines of this civilisation, but practical (as well as intellectual) skills can go a lot further in supporting our women/families. All too often I've had the women of rich city slickers with very little else to offer other than their wallets, come crawling up my "snake-arm"... If you catch my drift...
@FreshOutaIdeas interesting and say no to married women or those who are in a relationship. Some women have historic personality disorders, they change every minute and play mind games, and some are never happy and ungrateful.
@Shezadi Never dealt with married women, never will, unless I'm married and its MY wife. I have however, dealt with little girls, with little boys for "boyfriends" that wanted what I had to offer... And the little boys getting destroyed (emasculated) at their perceived lack masculinity compared to me... And their little girls either hitting the sack with me, or causing a tailwind of proverbial devastation.
I'm sure personality disorders come into it somewhere, but women and men alike these days, generally, are just weak degenerates. All I want from a woman is to have a little conversation (ya know, a mix of "intellectual" stuff and our interests in life), a laugh, maybe a few drinks (not mandatory), and to just be straight down the line when it comes to having sex. I don't expect women to open their legs to me like cheap whores (unless they are), but I don't like wasting time around women I'm trying to get to know without at some point having sex. Eventually I just lose interest, because she clearly doesn't know what she wants.
This goes for genuinely inexperienced girls too.
What a lot of girls can't handle about guys like me is that I'll happily fuck them based purely on psychical attractiveness, and gradually form a bond with them if we're compatible. Instead what they think they need to do is play games to pique at my interest levels, forgetting the fact that they've not actually shown me anything of worth other than a their vaginas and a quick 30 minutes at my place... Hence why I also need to gauge what they're like before I take them remotely seriously...
@FreshOutaIdeas - and this is common. Women think they can snag a hot guy buy giving him sex. And simply by doing so she now thinks her value is elevated because this hot guy did her. And she's hurt by the fact that he's not committed to her and likely never will be, as why should he? He gets all the pussy he can handle. But now these girls go around thinking they are better than they actually are, and develop a sense of self importance, and you then hear the 'I'm not going to settle' meme, or spurning really great guys that could be perfect suitors for a mate. But they've been fucked by the hot guy so they think that's what they deserve.
This can go on for years, we call it the cock-carousel. And one day they wake up and realize they're getting to the age where they are losing their youth and beauty, and now have to compete with much younger women. 85% of them are going after the same 15% of hot guys - the rest of everybody else is standing on the sidelines waiting for something to happen. And these girls never do develop themselves in a way that brings high value to the relationship - they figure if they show up with their golden vagina they're, well, golden. LOL
It's an ugly shit-show, but they just don't get it. At some point you'll then hear the famous, "Where have all the good guys gone?" Well you dumbass, they've gotten snapped up by chicks smarter than you, so now what's left are the dweebs nerds, and rejects, and the divorcees with kids in tow. And none of them want her anymore, all used up and left overs - sloppy seconds. And all the while the FI is telling them this is their right - their independence - to fuck any guy, anywhere, any time they want. Sure honey, but not without consequences. Your place in life is what YOU have created. But they'll NEVER accept any responsibility, it's always he made me, or I had no choice, always some uncontrollable outside influence.
@Browneye57 Aaaahhh yes, the cock-carousel!!! The bane of many a modern woman is it not? Haha. If @Shezadi is still reading this then perhaps she should take a leaf out of this proverbial book of what's been described so far; I don't mean any offence to her but it really grates on me when girls/women try to pass off asinine levels of childish immaturity, as "girly-girlishness", when in all actuality it is a front for either the self-entitled narcissists you've described already - and of which I have quite a lot of considerable experience with.
"And these girls never do develop themselves in a way that brings high value to the relationship - they figure if they show up with their golden vagina they're, well, golden. LOL".
That's exactly it! Many a modern woman bases not just her sexual value, but her value as a woman entirely, on whether or not she can get laid, even better if it's by that hot guy in the corner. Even girls who don't sleep around and might actually make for decent relationship material still fall into this trap too. I've been in a couple scenarios where the girl wants me to do the whole chivalry routine, which for a while chasing her around is cool and sexually tense and all, but eventually without much confidant reciprocation, I lost interest completely, and then all of a sudden they were left wondering why the hell I just disappeared!
I imagine because they are so convinced that they aren't as beautiful as we see them as and the more we tell them the more they are going to convince themselves that we are either lying or just after sex from them making them more insecure. Not all women are like this and all that though.
All girls are insecure. Its just in their nature, doesn't matter if they are pretty or not.
Any person who values their appearance a lot is bound to be insecure, whether thats natural or conditioning. I think women have it worse now than ever before.
Men too. Bodybuilding is pretty much the epitome of male insecurity. There is no bodybuilder who isn't insecure about his looks. Same with women.
Because every dude in the entire world thinks this way - she is so cute she is probably dumb as hell , and she probably is a hoe and gets too many attention from other thirsty dudes , i dont even wanna talk to her in long term but i sure would smash her and dash
thats how the male audience thinks about this type of girls
Yes its a stereotype but its always on guys mind when they see girl like this
I love you for being so honest. I am so proud of you. I should have a poster of this comment everywhere on the streets, guys are horrible, the way they fake loving a girl just to smash her and then they dump her leaving her heart broken. This is why women hate guys. Guys should not have double standards for their sisters, daughters, mothers and somebody's else daughter and sister. Every girl is someone's future wife and mother. This is another reason women don't lose virginity before marriage because even cheaters look like angels on the outside like Zayn Malik, Justin Bieber, Brad, Pete Davidson. hate those type of boys and what about those who share the nudes of their girlfriends?
@Shezadi the more beautifull the girl is = the more problems u will have being in a relationship with her , thats why guys think this way i have written
@Shezadi LOL okay, which is it? Are guys shallow or are guys just looking to screw any woman? I realize that you're not too bright since that was all you could come up with (you couldn't even try to refute the truth)... but even YOU must realize that you can't have it both ways.
Proberbly been bullied some time in life about there looks. i think some young women need glasses most young women attractive but have no confidence low esteem or bad perents or thick ones.
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Don't generalize all beautiful women as insecure. Many women have what it takes to confidently carry their gifts.
It's impossible to avoid generalizing unfortunately. And I would say the majority of women are insecure. But I would also agree with you, that many women do have what it takes. In fact, if they can heal from old wounds, I would say all women do
What is beautiful? Everyone has different taste on looks. This is one of things that are hard to explain as beautiful means different things to everyone.
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I get confused by people who are pretty with inscure thoughts.
Cause i can cleary judge myself as ugly or not and others to a correct answer (aka the most agreed since ugly and pretty can be each to there own).
So i don't understand how others cannot.
I mean if i was hot i would know it.
But i get it's all psychology which at the end of day is all kinds of weird and over the place.
@MiaLinia there decent maybe 8
Love this ❤️ I know many girls who are so pretty but insecure about them selfs and I wish I could get them to realize How pretty they are ❤️
I wish you the best of luck!
thanks, thank you for this mytake <3 :)
My pleasure! And if you do help them, even using this my take, let me know. I would love to hear that it was helpful.
sure thing :)
because
the closer you are to being your 'ideal' self the more the desire to get there goes higher... however like anything, getting that last 10% is the most difficult if not impossible... so their chase and dissatisfaction continues until they lose their minds
TLDR. Your profile doesn't list your age, but I have doubts about your authority on what makes women tick.
I can tell you they are extremely competitive, especially about men and dating, and most of them have this incessant need for the celebrity worship and comparo shtick which is a giant fail for a lot of reasons. Just look at that kardashian dipshit - she's all the rage. [shrug]
Low self esteemed women often replace this void with an artificially inflated ego, don't they?
@FreshOutaIdeas - Sure. They do all manner of artificial bullshit. It's always just ALL about the FEELZ. And those feelings are highly likely to change at any given moment. They'll tell you that is their right and prerogative to do so as well. Just ask them!
Haha, very true!
It's even worse when you see genuinely attractive women acting out, when they never even needed to in the first place! Can't stand their nancy little dramas, they should save it for their little gossip groups... Even then, they normally end up being handbag-swinging contests anyway!
@FreshOutaIdeas I bet you will fall in love with a drama queen. All women are drama queens, girly, they like make-up and shopping. It is natural. Boys and girls are different. Girls work hard to look for you guys and for their confidence.
@Shezadi - For sure... I did. A queen in all ways. I finally realized I had to be the 'REAL MAN' and then she was WAY happier. About thirty years now... :)
browneeye57, what do you mean by the term, "real man"
@Shezadi - She wanted me to lead, to take control, to not accept her whining and complaining.
Women want to respect their man - otherwise the whole thing goes downhill fast. They want a guy that is ambitious, accomplished, good looking, rich, capable, and steady. And one that will entertain them. If he ignores her, or gets fat and lazy and drinks beer and watches sports, she's highly likely to bail. Or cheat. Or at least shut down sexually.
The burden of performance is on the man. About half of them are not up for the job.
she sounds like me, say hello to her on my behalf, I am her long lost twin, lol! I want my boyfriend to let me be a drama queen and immature. He is 24 and unemployed. I and my parents are waiting for him to become independent. Every thing is perfect about my boyfriend expect the fact he is unemployed.
@Shezadi - well, that would be a non-starter in my book. I would bid him farewell and date others. Tell him to circle back when he gets his shit together. You have to be willing to walk away. The way it is now is highly likely how it will always be. There's more to love than just a cutesy emotion. He needs to be able to support you and the 84 children you want to have with him.
@Shezadi
No, I will not fall in love with a girly drama queen... Believe me when I say that if you think "Good Time" guys like me will deal with a woman (long term) that has the emotional IQ of a peanut, then girls like you (who claim to want big strong guys like me) will find youselves gravely mistaken.
That's completely true, I'd have to be a homosexual if I wanted a "woman" that thought and acted exactly as I do, a man. Except as girls like you hopefully grow a little wiser with a little more age/experience, you'll come to learn that there is a *BIG* differential between a childish brat, and a wholesome feminine woman.
@Browneye57 has a good understanding of what women want (need), but going by his account his woman was likely a decent one, in that she was mature enough in her femininity to know where to tow the line in any am-dram shit-testing antics - given that he was providing her what she needed.
I been with many women (relative to my young age), and some the best-worst examples of "girly-girls" like you, is me being put into situations where (out of self-defence) I've broken jaws and severely hospitalised people... All thanks to that drama-queen bullshit insolent little girls that mooch around claiming to be "women needing strong men", keep spouting about.
Only thing I'll say to @Browneye57 ; money is great to have within the confines of this civilisation, but practical (as well as intellectual) skills can go a lot further in supporting our women/families. All too often I've had the women of rich city slickers with very little else to offer other than their wallets, come crawling up my "snake-arm"... If you catch my drift...
@FreshOutaIdeas interesting and say no to married women or those who are in a relationship. Some women have historic personality disorders, they change every minute and play mind games, and some are never happy and ungrateful.
@Shezadi
Never dealt with married women, never will, unless I'm married and its MY wife. I have however, dealt with little girls, with little boys for "boyfriends" that wanted what I had to offer... And the little boys getting destroyed (emasculated) at their perceived lack masculinity compared to me... And their little girls either hitting the sack with me, or causing a tailwind of proverbial devastation.
I'm sure personality disorders come into it somewhere, but women and men alike these days, generally, are just weak degenerates. All I want from a woman is to have a little conversation (ya know, a mix of "intellectual" stuff and our interests in life), a laugh, maybe a few drinks (not mandatory), and to just be straight down the line when it comes to having sex. I don't expect women to open their legs to me like cheap whores (unless they are), but I don't like wasting time around women I'm trying to get to know without at some point having sex. Eventually I just lose interest, because she clearly doesn't know what she wants.
This goes for genuinely inexperienced girls too.
What a lot of girls can't handle about guys like me is that I'll happily fuck them based purely on psychical attractiveness, and gradually form a bond with them if we're compatible. Instead what they think they need to do is play games to pique at my interest levels, forgetting the fact that they've not actually shown me anything of worth other than a their vaginas and a quick 30 minutes at my place... Hence why I also need to gauge what they're like before I take them remotely seriously...
@FreshOutaIdeas - and this is common. Women think they can snag a hot guy buy giving him sex. And simply by doing so she now thinks her value is elevated because this hot guy did her. And she's hurt by the fact that he's not committed to her and likely never will be, as why should he? He gets all the pussy he can handle.
But now these girls go around thinking they are better than they actually are, and develop a sense of self importance, and you then hear the 'I'm not going to settle' meme, or spurning really great guys that could be perfect suitors for a mate. But they've been fucked by the hot guy so they think that's what they deserve.
This can go on for years, we call it the cock-carousel. And one day they wake up and realize they're getting to the age where they are losing their youth and beauty, and now have to compete with much younger women. 85% of them are going after the same 15% of hot guys - the rest of everybody else is standing on the sidelines waiting for something to happen. And these girls never do develop themselves in a way that brings high value to the relationship - they figure if they show up with their golden vagina they're, well, golden. LOL
It's an ugly shit-show, but they just don't get it. At some point you'll then hear the famous, "Where have all the good guys gone?" Well you dumbass, they've gotten snapped up by chicks smarter than you, so now what's left are the dweebs nerds, and rejects, and the divorcees with kids in tow. And none of them want her anymore, all used up and left overs - sloppy seconds. And all the while the FI is telling them this is their right - their independence - to fuck any guy, anywhere, any time they want. Sure honey, but not without consequences. Your place in life is what YOU have created. But they'll NEVER accept any responsibility, it's always he made me, or I had no choice, always some uncontrollable outside influence.
@Browneye57
Aaaahhh yes, the cock-carousel!!! The bane of many a modern woman is it not? Haha. If @Shezadi is still reading this then perhaps she should take a leaf out of this proverbial book of what's been described so far; I don't mean any offence to her but it really grates on me when girls/women try to pass off asinine levels of childish immaturity, as "girly-girlishness", when in all actuality it is a front for either the self-entitled narcissists you've described already - and of which I have quite a lot of considerable experience with.
"And these girls never do develop themselves in a way that brings high value to the relationship - they figure if they show up with their golden vagina they're, well, golden. LOL".
That's exactly it! Many a modern woman bases not just her sexual value, but her value as a woman entirely, on whether or not she can get laid, even better if it's by that hot guy in the corner. Even girls who don't sleep around and might actually make for decent relationship material still fall into this trap too. I've been in a couple scenarios where the girl wants me to do the whole chivalry routine, which for a while chasing her around is cool and sexually tense and all, but eventually without much confidant reciprocation, I lost interest completely, and then all of a sudden they were left wondering why the hell I just disappeared!
Some girls really are clueless!
@FreshOutaIdeas - Some? Most. :)
Introspection is not really a strong point for women. Actually, it's a survival mechanism for the weaker sex. ;)
I imagine because they are so convinced that they aren't as beautiful as we see them as and the more we tell them the more they are going to convince themselves that we are either lying or just after sex from them making them more insecure. Not all women are like this and all that though.
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I see you too
Thank you! I appreciate the intentionality and heart behind that
Because I meant it!
Well done sir
I want to say thank you again, but I already did! And it is great to hear that you found it meaningful
I know you I can feel it
Yes! I most certainly can
All girls are insecure. Its just in their nature, doesn't matter if they are pretty or not.
Any person who values their appearance a lot is bound to be insecure, whether thats natural or conditioning. I think women have it worse now than ever before.
Men too. Bodybuilding is pretty much the epitome of male insecurity.
There is no bodybuilder who isn't insecure about his looks. Same with women.
it is human nature
Because every dude in the entire world thinks this way -
she is so cute she is probably dumb as hell , and she probably is a hoe and gets too many attention from other thirsty dudes , i dont even wanna talk to her in long term but i sure would smash her and dash
thats how the male audience thinks about this type of girls
Yes its a stereotype but its always on guys mind when they see girl like this
I love you for being so honest. I am so proud of you. I should have a poster of this comment everywhere on the streets, guys are horrible, the way they fake loving a girl just to smash her and then they dump her leaving her heart broken. This is why women hate guys. Guys should not have double standards for their sisters, daughters, mothers and somebody's else daughter and sister. Every girl is someone's future wife and mother. This is another reason women don't lose virginity before marriage because even cheaters look like angels on the outside like Zayn Malik, Justin Bieber, Brad, Pete Davidson. hate those type of boys and what about those who share the nudes of their girlfriends?
men think like this every time they watch beautiful female celebrities, models, singers and actresses.
@Shezadi the more beautifull the girl is = the more problems u will have being in a relationship with her , thats why guys think this way i have written
I don't get it
@Shezadi then read again
They aren't. You should be deeply ashamed of yourself for believing that.
Let an average man approach one and see just how highly they think about themselves in comparison.
You don't get to look down your nose and insult men for daring to talk to you and cry about your self-esteem at the same time.
A guy: he ignores 90% of girls and complain that the other 10% are shallow when they date hotter guys.
@Shezadi LOL okay, which is it? Are guys shallow or are guys just looking to screw any woman? I realize that you're not too bright since that was all you could come up with (you couldn't even try to refute the truth)... but even YOU must realize that you can't have it both ways.
I think some of this is true and does apply to me.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
My pleasure
This is a beautifully written Take. Really hammers your point home.
Thank you! It has been swirling in my brain for a long time, and I feel strongly about it.
Who is that?
I personally haven't noticed this a whole lot myself, however being a shy person myself maybe I shelter myself from this kinda thing.
That sounds like a blessing
Let me count the ways. Nothing better than a solid seven! Aside from hooking up, avoid the 8s, 9s and 10s like the plague!
Proberbly been bullied some time in life about there looks. i think some young women need glasses most young women attractive but have no confidence low esteem or bad perents or thick ones.
Don't generalize all beautiful women as insecure. Many women have what it takes to confidently carry their gifts.
It's impossible to avoid generalizing unfortunately. And I would say the majority of women are insecure. But I would also agree with you, that many women do have what it takes. In fact, if they can heal from old wounds, I would say all women do
I believe cause we tend to be competitive with each other.
What is beautiful? Everyone has different taste on looks. This is one of things that are hard to explain as beautiful means different things to everyone.
Excellent take fella! You are top notch!
Thanks man!
They're not! Most of them know they're beautiful they just like people to tell them how beautiful they are.
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