Tips On The Women Men Must Avoid To Get In A Serious Relationship Or Marriage With?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Introduction:

This Mytake is my personal advice based on what I have experienced personally and seen from others on what type of women to avoid regardless if she's gorgeous or not.

Failure to ignore these warning signs will bring you nothing but headaches and misery if you ever seriously get involved with the following types of women because it will only get worse and worse with time once they expose their true personality.

The Flattering Tongue.

I will address this one first because this is the main trait of a trashy woman who hides behind her facade to find a way to get her feet in the door she's seeking to get into for whatever her purposes are.

Pay close attention to listen wheather it's with you or someone she's talking too to pick up the tiny red flags.

These types of women are very skillful and quick with words to say and know how to use their mouth to their advantage.

She's the type that will always pretty much appeal to a man's ego by speaking agreeable words to feed his ego even if she doesn't mean it.

Her compliments are excessive and often with a smile and with lots of charm to make the experience seem genuine.

She's a fake and a chameleon. Her real personality sucks and she also carries a high degree of being unfaithful due to her flirty ways.

She Doesn't Know When To Shut Up.

On average women like to talk more than men throughout the day, but anything in excessive will become a burden very quick!

You as a man should be very cautious when talking to a woman and you notice you can't get a word in or she constantly interrupts you when you speak.

This motor mouth of a woman will have your head ready to explode because she doesn't know when to shut the hell up and leave someone alone. She also tends to complain a lot too.

Are you sure you want to live in the same house with her? 🙄

Non-Submissive Attitude.

I dislike unsubmissive women; it's a major turn off with these hard headed goats.

This woman isn't wife material unless you are one of those soft cucks who like woman to be the leader.

She's the type of dominate personality that likes to contradict for the sake of rebellion that her spirit is.

For ex: You and others might say it's very cold outside today, but she can't help her fat mouth and stay quite, but has to let everyone know she doesn't agree with them.

And she pretty much will do this with everything else even when she's not asked.

These women are the ones that like to say relationships are 50/50, equal partnerships or don't believe or scoff that men should be the leaders of the household and won't obey when spoken to and give a bad attitude.

If you don't want constant fights, arguments and drama then stay away from this stubborn ass woman.

She Dresses Like A Hooker.

I'm all for a woman to look and dress sexy, but there must be a boundary as well.

A woman that extends herself to show lots of cleavage or wear a super short skirt is because she's full of vanity, ego and pride and pretty much has very little to no positive substance on the inside so she makes it up by trying to show her excessive body parts for admiration and attention. These women also tend to be whores.

The Hot Head.

LOL. This right here. I once had a girlfriend that ran full speed with a machete in her hand towards me and literally put it inches away from my face; my heart probably skipped 5 consecutive beats.

Look, if you notice this kind of woman tends to get angry with co-workers, in traffic or the waiter or waitress over petty stuff then cut her loose.

You will be experiencing her rage from 0 to 100 in heavy doses if you decide to ignore the signs and get with her.

She's Never Home.

Having a great time with friends is cool and I strongly encourage it, but if you notice when you talk to a woman and she is never home then that is a red flag this woman won't be a good wife nor mom to her kids.

This is the type that as soon she leaves work has to go to the local sports bar for drinks, hang out at her friend's house, go to downtown to see the latest events etc.

She acts like this literally 7 days a week, there's no balance to her; she's gotta always be everywhere, but home.

Sarcastic Mouth.

If you're talking to a woman or hear her mock others, this is a tiny flag that she has a slick disrespectful mouth and personality.

If you get a new hair cut she will make sure to ridicule you or diss your shoe style, but she often hides her mean spirited ways by smiling and laughing while saying it to make you think she's joking. She's not joking, trust me.

She's a freaking little b*&#$ and will always try to make you feel bad about yourself and second guess you a lot to make you feel stupid.

Six Types Of Men Women In Their Right Mind Should Avoid At All Cost!

[JohnSanDiego]

#1 trait a woman should have in my opinion, is loyalty. If she's loyal to me, sexually, physically, emotionally, then there's a lot she can get away with. I'm not that concerned with how she dresses or if she cops a sassy , sarcastic attitude with me. Part of being a strong, masculine male, is not being bothered by a woman's idiosyncrasies and quirks. If she dresses like a slut, that's OK, provided she's my slut, and she's not spreading her legs for other men. I don't care if other men look at her and desire her, good.

If she is loyal, respectful towards me, that goes a long way in making me take her seriously as a partner. I personally have zero tolerance for BS. So, if I have a girlfriend and she tells me she wants to go party at a nightclub with her girlfriends, on a "girls night out", I'm not having it. She can do whatever she wants, but she's not my girlfriend anymore. I had a girlfriend that tried to pull one of those on me and I told her:

"Well, I don't want you going to one of those nightclubs, because that's just a meat market, where single people go to hookup and get laid. Why do you want to go there? Don't you already have a boyfriend? ".

She was like "Oh I just want to spend some time with my female co-workers, to get to know them..". I was like, "that's the only place you can go to spend some time with your girlfriends out of work?" Well, I told her, to do whatever she wants, but I don't want a girlfriend that still wants to party with her girls at nightclubs, especially without me. So, I broke up with her right there on the spot, after us being together for about four months.

She called me a week later wanting to get together again and I was like "No, we're not compatible. I'm not looking for the party girl that still wants to hookup with other guys. I don't share my girlfriend with anyone. You were different when we first met and now you want to go party hardy with your girls at the club, without me. We're not on the same frequency." and that was that. Lay the rules early, even before you enter into a relationship. That was my mistake, not extending the dating period out for a few months. We got into a relationship, only after two weeks of dating. Extend the dating for about two months and get to know her first, as her questions (interview her).

Loyalty #1.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

I understand loyalty is very important but for you to know if a woman is loyal or not you would have to get with her first since there's no obvious signs will she be loyal or not.

This Mytake is signs to look out for to avoid a disaster of a woman in the 1st place.

[arabgoddess]

I liked reading your comment! I admire when a man knows exactly what he wants

[Aiasis]

An early sign to avoid disloyalty from anyone is to ask them a couple of what if scenarios that aren't consecutively placed in a conversation. Their true self will show at some point in their answers of the "what if."

[startingfitness]

its not always easy to look for loyalty directly sometimes you have to look at other signs. also, just loyalty is setting the bar pretty low

[startingfitness]

if she dresses like a slut she is a slut. not your slut, just " a" slut. there are no exceptions to this rule

[KrakenAttackin]

@JohnSanDiego. Well said sir. You have exactly the right approach.

[Massageman]

I agree with all except the last one. To ridicule something is not- in itself- using sarcasm. If someone just complains about everything no matter what, they are just a "complainer". Ssarcasm is a figure of speech which typically structured to speak of an exaggerated opposite of what is really happening., or to overstress the obvious.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Yeah, what I meant to say she has a disrespectful mouth but uses "sarcasm" to try to hide her mean spirit if you get my drift?

[Massageman]

Got it.

[tiajoka]

I agree, I'm sarcastic and like to make jabs at people; especially the ones I like the most. If I go to far or hit it where it hurts, and they let me know, I'll apologize. Communication is on the guy for that. But if he can't handle a couple jokes then he's the little bitch lets be honest.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@tiajoka: I agree with you, but there's a line that can be crossed.

[roland77]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Exactly! Wanna hear one? Famous European place with highest population growth? The Mediterranean. (It is #racism because of #Lampedusa is targeted here).

[roland77]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy To make my point clear: I'm not into racism!

[KrakenAttackin]

@Massageman. Sarcasm is a big killer of relationships.

[KrakenAttackin]

@tiajoka Do you front your man out in front of his friends? Do you disrespect him openly? This is what a lot of women call "sarcasm" when in fact it is plain disrespect.

[tiajoka]

@KrakenAttackin obviously you've never met a funny woman. And no, if anything he fronts me in front of his friends. But I know how to laugh so I'm not crying about it.

[CallyKat89]

After looking at the MyTake you linked as well as a few other things you have posted, I would just like to point out that you view people as static creatures of habit. This might be your preference and that's fine. But your examples are misrepresenting the traits you're demonizing. This is exemplified in your representation of a dominance struggle. The examples you list are invalidation and brow-beating rather than a real shift in the power structure.
I also disagree with the red flags you list. I believe that men should focus on the toxic aspects of a woman's personality rather than her humor and tendencies to talk. Avoiding red flags is imporant to dating but I think that the flags you have listed here are incredibly trivial and potentially offensive to some women. In most cases, this viewpoint leads to conflicts because neither party is willing to compromise. If you have an issue with what she wears or says, tell her that you are uncomfortable not that she is the problem. This is again exemplified in your statements on dominance and submission. In reality, with the right approach, people are incredibly dynamic and open to conversation.
If there is an open line of communication most real problems could be solved with a calm conversation.
People are capable of change and for a real relationship to work, there must be a give and take. Before finding immediate fault in your partner, do some inner reflections. It could be that you're projecting a person who is not your partner onto your woman, and becoming angry when she doesn't act the way you want her to. If that is the case the problem is you and most relationships you find yourself in will be unhappy.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

I guarantee any man that ignores those common red flags and winds up with a woman that possesses any of those nasty traits will regret it; in fact any honest man that had a bad girlfriend or wife had at least one of those traits and he will testify it was hell for him being with her.

[CallyKat89]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy I understand that you are speaking from your own specified experience, but it sounds like you lack the emotional maturity to work through issues as a unified couple. It sounds like you have to be right in every situation, which will definaetly lead to a ton of conflict. What you have listed here are not common red flags and I think your own personal relationships are being projected onto every woman who acted similarly to your exes.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

I promise you it isn't. This is wisdom, maybe you're the one that is being biased as a woman because this Mytake hurts your ego.

[CallyKat89]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy lol, no ego here, nice try though! , personal attacks should not be used when refuting a statement. When trying to address conflicts of interest in a perspective, your argument would look more appealing if you use less accusatory language and phrase it as a mild question. It would be sound a tad petty, but a personal attack is a personal attack no matter how it is phrased. I hope this helps with your future opionion pieces!

[Djaay]

Callycat89 ... Why all the deception? Maybe he doesn't know how to explain very well , but obviously you think you understand his point.
I think you understand his point as well.
The accual point of his take is ; UnGodly women are thorns every man should avoid at all cost. UnGodly mem are just the same.
You either are or your not , one or the other.
Either you honor God or you dont. If you dont for whatever your reason , men are commanded to flee quickly away from you. I didn't say that... GOD SAID THAT.

[Lightning8]

I like the calm and collected tone of this comment. It's soothing. I agree with some points made on both this comment prticularly and in the MyTake to some degree. But it's just that I don't recall this much criticism and outrage when the author of this MyTake made a similar piece on men that "women should avoid", not too long ago.

[CallyKat89]

@Djaay If you think that God wants you to avoid these women, that's your prerogative and I respect your dedication to your faith. However, not everyone sees the world this way and I think that the unmentioned perspectives should be addressed. @Lightning8 I saw that MyTake, the author linked it below this current one. It almost led me to believe that all of this was a social experiment of sorts. I thought that the author wanted to see how each gender would react to two very demeaning ways to explain why they should be avoided. However, just because the audiences responded differently, the points being made are not invalid. Each piece has a different target audience and is phrased to attract attention. Think of it as different populations responding to personalized clickbait.

[Djaay]

As you might have known , the Bible is a deep subject and would dearly take eons to reiterate with someone's all of its details as you may assume.
God prefers man and woman together as we both were intended and designed for that precise comparability.
My point in metion delivers a message to those women who's heart won't recognize GOD of the Bible Or his son JESUS CHRIST as they're personal saviour. Denial of either one designs your destiny as mentioned in the scripture as twice over dead in spirit.
That's those I'm reffereing to.
Myself , I belive in the scriptures that words of encouragement and forgiveness irradicates judgements towards another.
I'm always willing by the grace and love of my GOD and the saviour of my soul to help others as well.
there's always repentance and forgiveness for those who come forward in the name of the lamb.
But those who deny GOD and his son profusely are dead twice over.
That there is my point of concern for other men and women as well..

[Djaay]

Compatibility *

[CallyKat89]

@Djaay Thank you for sharing! It is always nice to hear other people's perspectives on the world and spirituality

[Djaay]

Accually that's not my perspective. That's GODS commanded commandments that must adhere to

[Lightning8]

@CallyKat89 are you saying that you think there is validity to both MyTakes?

[CallyKat89]

@Lightning8 Of course, each MyTake hosts comments with perfectly valid and understandable points. The number of responses added does not change that fact that some of the responses are in fact comprehensible

[Lightning8]

@CallyKat89 I was referring to the loints made by the MyTaje author

[VIVANT]

I think adults who need to FEEL like other adults to submit to them, are highly emotional themselves yet lack the emotional / intellectual maturity and strength of character and should not be in a relationship until they grow as a person; Learn to recognize their own short comings and are able to Work WOTH and communicate WITH and make recursion a WITH other adult To solve conflicts and make plans like adults; Not spoiled 5 year old stomping their feet insisting every one must bow to bc I say so.

This is not rational. It is really very silly fanciful and childish.

This kind of expectation Will only create dysfunctional relationship with a short shelf life. The more rational a partner this kind of person has, the shorter period of time the relationship will last.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

You're blowing things completely out proportion and grossly misinterpreting the word submit out of its context.

I would never abuse or force or guilt trip my woman to do anything against her will or try to control her as a person nor advocate that philosophy to anyone.

I was simply trying to say that a woman should submit to her man as her leader depending if that man is good and fair to her as I have said before on this site.

[Lightning8]

@VIVANT I can agree with that. I do have one question however. And that is, does this comment still apply for people who are the inverse and therefore prefer for themselves to be radically submissive towards their adult partner, e. g. prefering a "daddy"? Because I do think partners like this are the kinds of partners the MyTake author is responding to when he says male dominance makes relationships function smoothly. And most self proclaimed submissive partners that I've seen in peraon and across the web are women. And females are the selecters in most if not all animal species; therefore women have the most authority over who gets to have relationships, because again, biology appears to tell us that women are the faces of natural selection.

[Lightning8]

I should say *prefering a "daddy/or mommy"*

Also to clarify, I not only mean that among submissive partners, most seem to be women, but that it seems to me that most female partners in general are submissive and prefer/or are attracted to, a dominant male.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

You sound like a man that is extremely controlling. To sum up what you prefer in women based on the reasons provided in your MyTake, you seem to want a woman that stays quiet, allows her husband to control her by submitting to him, not dress in a way that she prefers or feels comfortable, doesn't stand up for herself, is a complete homebody, and has no sense of humor. People interrupt others when they talk all the time, both men and women. That doesn't mean that they can't live together, work things out, or learn to agree to disagree. A woman should never submit to a man. Women are not men's property. Women are capable of making their own decisions and living their own lives. Relationships should never be about one being a "leader" over another person, but rather teamwork. Good spouses help each other out at all times. If that man ever decides that, for whatever reason, he stops being the "leader," that submissive woman is doomed. If a woman wants to show off her God given body for whatever reason, be it for attention or whatnot, she has every right to do so. No man should ever dictate what a grown woman wears on her own body. If you had women that pulled machetes on you, obviously that says a lot about your dating choices.

Try to be wise enough to spot and avoid crazy women. A woman isn't a "hot head" simply because she gets angry and stands up for herself. It's unhealthy to force women to be weak and become shrinking violent doormats. Women, for the most part, tend to be social and enjoy experiencing the world and people in it. We don't like staying in the house playing video games all day, for example. We're going to go out and enjoy ourselves whenever we choose. Just because you enjoy going out often doesn't mean that a woman can't be a good wife and mother. Sarcasm is usually a way for people to express their sense of humor. It sounds like you're paranoid and believe that every time a woman is being sarcastic or whatever, she's actually being serious and trying to hurt you. Lighten up and laugh along. When you get married, I feel sorry for her if she ever decided to speak up and speak out during an argument or whatnot, ever try to make her own decisions in the household, wear clothes to show off her own body, stand up for herself, ever try to leave the house to have fun, or ever try to joke around with you. I hate to think about the constant hell that she would be put through just so she could behave in a way that you think the perfect woman should.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

You can't read or are purposely looking to rip stuff out of context. Try again.

[PatKirby]

You sound like an entitled, presumptuous, narcissistic, non-loving person with delusions of grandeur. Roughly a 4 thinking the world sees you as a 9, removing those rose-tinted glasses of yours would be the first step in facing reality.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@PatKirby: And you sound like a weak, diffident, overly sensitive little man with a micropenis. A "man going his own way" simply because, with women, he knows that he couldn't have his own way if he tried. You're seriously telling me that I am "roughly a 4" and that I need to face reality, when you're using a stock photo as your profile picture? If you're going to judge other people's looks, at least have the confidence to use your own profile pictures. That's too much to expect from a MGTOW guy though, right. We all know y'all lack confidence. If you're really 42 behind this account, please grow up, stop playing on the internet, and try to gain some confidence.

[roland77]

@Tiffany_Taylor_Made Interpreting is fun, isn't it? #sarcasm

[startingfitness]

a woman who wants to show off her body can show off her body, but then she can't be a wife. a wife is proper and does not show off her body to any man other than her husband

[ImperviousBugbear]

@startingfitness Hello fellow Muslim brother. Asalam alaikum!

[startingfitness]

@ImperviousBugbear im catholic , not muslim. but good day to you too

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@startingfitness: And a man that doesn't allow his wife to wear what she wants to wear isn't a proper husband.

[startingfitness]

no that's a real man with balls. men who let their wives do anything are weak punks

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@startingfitness: Letting your wife wear what she wants isn't letting her "do anything." It's a right that she has as an adult. Real men don't feel a need to control their woman because, if he was a real man, she would have respect for him and cater to his desires without him having to demand it. If anything, a man being controlling in a relationship doesn't make him a "real man with balls." It makes him come off as insecure. However, in healthy relationships, there should be a mutual form of respect. Real men should expect their wife to show them compassion, kindness, love, care, and loyalty. This should done out of respect for the husband. If the man doesn't expect this from her, THEN you can say that he isn't a real man. In turn, men should show respect for the wife by accepting that she can do what she wants in the relationship as long as her actions don't threaten the health, stability, compassion, kindness, love, care, and loyalty that goes along with the relationship.

[startingfitness]

lets cut out the bullshit and stop pretending that men are the only bad guys and sluts don't exist. okay?

" Real men don't feel a need to control their woman because, if he was a real man, she would have respect for him and cater to his desires without him having to demand it"
Men don't get respect out of nowhere for nothing. you are not a man, so you don't understand how a man gains respect. you don't get to the point of having respect from women, or men or anyone for no reason. its hard. you earn it trough a lot of work. and in many places, you have to fight for it.
if you just let whatever happens happen, no one will respect you, as a man.

men become the type of "real man" you are talking about by demanding respect first. once he has his position , then people will respect him for it.

letting a woman wear anything she wants is letting her do anything. you can wear anything you want as long as you aren't disrespecting me, our relationship or yourself.
you can wear anything you want as an adult, as a single adult. not when you have a man.

when you get with someone you have to sacrifice certain " adult" rights. if you are a man, you have to stop fucking other women. you also have to stop doing activities that would enable you to fuck other women. this means you shouldn't be visiting whorehouses or strip clubs. some women even demand their men stop watching porn. not everyone agrees with it but it is a reasonable demand.

in the same way, men also have rules and boundaries for women. wearing proper clothing is one of them. you shouldn't be dressing sexy when you already have a man.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@startingfitness: Male or female, when you enter a relationship, you basically sign up to be faithful to your partner and love and care for him or her. You shouldn't have to give up anything, unless what you're giving would otherwise threaten the loyalty in that relationship. All the things that you mentioned that men should stop doing would threaten the health and stability of the relationship if he didn't stop doing them. However, watching porn doesn't have to threaten the health of a relationship, as long as a porn addiction doesn't exist and/or if it is preferred over the wife. Many couples even watch porn together. However, a woman wearing what she wants to wear doesn't threaten the health and stability of a relationship. It's still 100% possible for a woman to be loving, caring, and faithful to her man regardless of what she wears. You can't compare a woman wearing what she wants to wear to a man visiting whorehouses, strip clubs, and fucking other women, as those represent a lack of faith, love, and care in the relationship. Simply put, if I, as your wife cared for you, remained loyal to you, loved you, and did everything possible to keep the relationship healthy and strong, there is no reason at all for you to dictate what I wear because I can still do all those regardless of my wardrobe. Some men need to understand that their wife is their lover and companion, not their daughter. Trying to have control over another adult is a recipe for disaster.

[roland77]

Maybe @Tiffany_Taylor_Made is another feminist 3.0? I got a hunch...

[KrakenAttackin]

Another "strong independent woman"...**yawn**.

[startingfitness]

wow look at the narcissism on this one.

You shouldn't have to give up anything, unless what you're giving would otherwise threaten the loyalty in that relationship.
-which means you will have to give up things. Understand that there is a difference between being single and taken. taken people can't do everything that single people do because the ARE NOT SINGLE.

" All the things that you mentioned that men should stop doing would threaten the health and stability of the relationship if he didn't stop doing them"-
oh really? and who says that? maybe I as a man like doing that. it has nothing to do with me being a loving and caring husband. remember I really love you and care for you. those strippers are just eye candy. and the hookers are just for physical release. I don't love them like I love you. all my time and love is with you.
so should I get the say in it? no. I have to make the sacrifice, because of your feelings. not mine , yours.

" However, a woman wearing what she wants to wear doesn't threaten the health and stability of a relationship" its bizarre that I have to explain this to you but is suppose women really have no understanding of men unless I take you and force you into my shoes. just like I said before, YOU DONT GET TO SAY WHAT THREATENS THE HEALTH AN STABILITY OF A RELATIONSHIP FROM MY POINT OF VIEW. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. you don't decide for both of us, you set the boundaries for my behaviour, and I set the boundaries for your behaviour. its really just common sense.

[startingfitness]

and a man doesn't want his woman to dress revealingly ( unless he has a fetish like a cuck or something) so you have to comply with our needs. because we don't like you to wear that dress, we don't like when other men look at you in a way because of what dress ou are wearing etc. those are our needs and you need to respect our needs as part of the relationship.

if I, as your wife cared for you, remained loyal to you, loved you, and did everything possible to keep the relationship healthy and strong,- if you cared for me , and loved me and did everything possible to keep the relationship healthy and strong you would dress like a proper lady instead of a h*e. because your man doesn't like it.

and if you don't respect your man and wanna wear whatever you wanna wear then we can go to the strip club and meet hookers too. either you respect our rules or we don't respect yours either. end of the story

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@startingfitness: Other men are going to look at me regardless of what I wear because women don't have to wear revealing clothes to get male attention. That doesn't mean that I would stop being loyal to and caring for my husband. Even if men were looking at me a certain way, I wouldn't expect my husband to be a "cuck." I wouldn't marry a weak man like that to begin with. Just as I would tell these men that I'm taken, I would expect my husband to tell these men the same. Be a man. That's what a "healthy" relationship refers to, a relationship without disloyalty and no cheating. You can't compare visiting a strip club and having sex with other women to a woman wearing what she wants because as soon as you've started giving other women your sexual attention, you're basically cheating and aren't loyal to me anymore. You also potentially ruin our family and risk bringing home STDs. Me wearing what I want to isn't cheating on you and/or putting your health at risk.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@startingfitness: If my husband's "needs" involve him restricting my freedom, especially if those "needs" have nothing to do with the health and stability of our relationship, I'm sorry, but I can't "respect" those "needs." Just because I do something that you don't like doesn't mean that I don't love and care for you, but that doesn't mean that I should stop doing it for the simple fact that you dislike it. The only thing that you, as a husband, need to worry about is if I'm still loving you, caring for you, having sex with you and only you, and devoting my loyalty only to you. If I'm not doing any of that, then call me out on it, divorce me, or do whatever you want, but in the meantime, I'm going to wear what I please. As a husband, you are not my father and therefore, you can't tell me what to do as if I'm some sort of child. Like I said, if what I'm doing doesn't make it impossible for me to be loyal to you only, then don't worry about what I do. That simple. As a married couple, we should both respect our relationship and each other's adulthood.

[startingfitness]

other men will look at you regardless.
that doesn't mean you should give them extra reason to look.
I always look more at women who dress extra revealingly and so do most men. don't act like you don't know lol.

a good woman who already has a man doesn't need to do that.
and yes it is an apt comparison and you are being unhealthy for the relationship, simply because men don't like it and you are giving men anger and headache and mental problems

[startingfitness]

If my husband's "needs" involve him restricting my freedom, especially if those "needs" have nothing to do with the health and stability of our relationship, I'm sorry, but I can't "respect" those "needs."

like I said, you don't get to choose those boundaries, I do.

its not upto you. itz is unhealthy to me , I don't like it and if you don't respect it, then I don't need to respect your wishes either. I can go to strip clubs, and go see hookers and spend my money in casinos, go on road trips with my friends instead of visiting your family, play videogames instead of watching a movie with you etc etc.
if you don't respect my wishes, I don't respect yours either.
end of the story.

and by the way, I said the strip club and whore example, because men hate their women dressing like a sl*t as much as women hate their men sleeping with sl*uts. that's the point.

stop being narcissistic and care for men instead of being so selfish

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@startingfitness: You come off as a man that is very controlling as well. Based on what I'm gathering, you seem to be the type of guy that believes that he can just cheat and start having sex with other women simply because your wife doesn't cater to your every whim. Whenever you're trying to convince your wife that she doesn't truly love and care for you simply because you "need" her to stop doing what you dislike, then you're technically being manipulative and controlling. With that being said, who said that a line would be drawn at only wearing "revealing" clothes? You could literally "dislike" anything she does. What if you dislike the fact that I enjoy wearing my favorite color? Do you "need" for me to stop doing that too? If I say that I would continue wearing it, do I not love and care for you? What if you dislike the fact that I have a male best friend from childhood? Do you "need" for me to stop talking to him? If say that I'm not ending our friendship, does that mean that I don't love and care for you? What if you dislike the fact that I like to hang out with my best friend female friends every Saturday night and go to the mall? Do you "need" me to stop doing that as well? If I refuse, and still go, even in my favorite outfit that some might consider "revealing," do I not love and care for you? The thing is that I do still love you, but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop enjoying life as I know how. Me staying loyal to you is what matters most. You just seem to not like it when women tell you "no," which is a sign of a controlling man.

[startingfitness]

you are jumping to a lot of conclusions.
if you think I am controlling, I got very bad news for you because almost every man is like me.
and most men aren't gonna be nice about it either.

most men I know would give a woman one slap and that would be it. the discussion won't come up ever again. I wonder what you would call that. but that's the real world , outside of whatever extreme feminist place you are at. but then again, most women I know wouldn't dress like this anyway , they dress modestly.

there is no manipulation with me. either you respect my masculinity , or we can't be together. its as simple as that with me. out of the things you listed I couldn't care less about most of them. the only thing is dressing like a lady instead of a slut and looking like a respectable woman instead of some ho. and the other thing would be no male friends. I don't believe in friendship between men and woman ( but then I wouldn't be with a woman who has a close "male friend" to begin with so im not gonna break that up). my strategy is to avoid women who obviously couldn't live with my standards instead of forcing them to.

[startingfitness]

also I would never cheat on my wife. I hate cheaters and traitors.
that was just an example to make you understand how a man feels in this scenario. its not the same situation but it is the same feeling.

tbh this whole conversation only started because it was hard for me to believe there are women who actually try to condone dressing like sl*ts. anyway, I suppose there are no further points to be added to this topic. I did explain the male point of view the best I could and now I have said my own approach to this. have a good day

[PatKirby]

You sound like someone who is allergic to the Truth.

[roland77]

@PatKirby Who do you mean? Please include an "@" with the user you mean!

[PatKirby]

@ShitMeSome_Tiffany_Taylor_Made_Cuff_Links - You sound like someone who is allergic to the Truth.

[PatKirby]

@roland77 - One thousand pardons, I stand corrected.

[KrakenAttackin]

@PatKirby Bingo.

[kim45456]

@startingfitness shut fuck up incesure bastard

[Lightning8]

@kim4546 I was reading their earlier comments, and the username you mentioned here does have a point. Say for example that you love and care for a child. Now, a child is in your custody and doesn't know right from wrong yet. And yet, you still have to make sacrifices as a parent/guardian to care for such a loved one. It is said that man or woman, you don't truly become an adult until you bear offspring and truly sacrifice for it. Obviously this isn't the only path but it illustrates a powerful point or universal truth.

Now in a romantic relationship, you are loving and caring for someone who does have a fully formed world view, and it is going to differ from yours inevitably while you both attempt to mantain monogamy. How do you love and care for anything or anyone without consistently making sacrifices for it or him/her/them?

[kim45456]

@Lightning8 you csnt make people change their whole identity only for your pleasure. What he wants is selfish

[kim45456]

That is not sacrifies. I mean if I like playing badminton, why should I give up only because you dont like it? That is why you can't except from a girl to stop wearing revealing clothes only for your pleasure. It makes you selfish.

[Lightning8]

@kim45456 wearing revealing clothes can provide other men with an "in person" equivolent of soft core porn. Some women find it problematic when guys ask for their snapchat or instagram instead of another means of contact for that reason; because they feel the men want to find some revealing image of her. So wearing revealing clothes is not the same as playing badminton. And since when is expressing fidelity to your partner just about "pleasure". That is healthy to do so in the interest of caring for the needs of someone other than self.

[Lightning8]

@kim45456 and a sacrifice is giving up something that you value.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Lightning8: If you're an attractive woman, people will look at you and hit on you regardless of what you're wearing, even if you're in a relationship. You mention that a woman wearing revealing clothes is equivalent to providing men with softcore porn. Even if that might be true for some men, that doesn't matter. As I mentioned before, a woman's love and care for her husband is more important than what she wears in public because it's the love and care that bonds the marriage, not the clothes. The possibility exists that even if an attractive wife wears revealing clothes and gets attention from other men because of that, if she truly loved her husband, she wouldn't give those other men any attention in return. If the man truly is secure with himself and the status of his relationship, what she wears should not matter at all. If the woman, on the other hand, wore revealing clothes for the sole purpose of attracting men's attention so that she could give those men her sexual attention, then of course her husband has the right to stop that because, not only should a wife get her sexual attention from just her husband, but it could also threaten their marriage. My belief is that if it doesn't downright threaten the marriage, then it's not a problem.

[Lightning8]

1: don't give them more reasons when you don't have to

2: could we not separate a woman's sexual fidelity from her love and care for her partner?

3: How is knowingly providing in-person soft core porn to some unknown men with your revealing clothes separate from your sexuality, when you know it emotionally hurts your specific man?

4: A lot of men fall for the gaslighting that is "you're just insecure", only to suffer the trauma of the full-on infidelity he finds out later.

[Lightning8]

*2: couldn't we separate...*

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Lightning8:

"don't give them more reasons when you don't have to"
A woman that wears revealing clothes doesn't always do it for other men. She could be doing simply because she feels comfortable wearing it. Even if they pay attention to it, like I said before, they don't have to give these men their attention.

"could we not separate a woman's sexual fidelity from her love and care for her partner?"
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this question.

"How is knowingly providing in-person soft core porn to some unknown men with your revealing clothes separate from your sexuality, when you know it emotionally hurts your specific man?"
Just because a woman is wearing revealing clothes doesn't mean that she is providing men with "softcore porn." Some men simply might want to view that as "softcore porn," which isn't the same thing. As I said before, she could be wearing those clothes because it represents her personal style that she feels comfortable wearing. As long as she is not giving other men her attention, it shouldn't matter.

"A lot of men fall for the gaslighting that is "you're just insecure", only to suffer the trauma of the full-on infidelity he finds out later."
If your woman wasn't loyal to you, she would cheat on you regardless of what she is wearing. My point is that a secure man would automatically know that his wife wouldn't cheat on him regardless of what she is wearing. Her actions show that. If, despite the fact that she doesn't give other men attention despite them giving her attention when she is wearing something she is comfortable in, him attempting to control what she is wearing is done for no reason other than insecurity and a lack of faith in his own wife. If he was truly secure in his marriage, he would know for certain that his wife wouldn't cheat despite her clothing choices and, therefore, wouldn't attempt to control what she wears.

[Lightning8]

You keep mentioning "if she doesn't give other men attention". You're not around your partner 24/7 to know that. So rather than assume, look at the lifestyle they live while with you if you want to take measures to protect yourself from infidelity before it hurts you any worse. A partner that respects you, respects your boundaries

[Lightning8]

That's why "you're just insecure" is gaslighting

[Lightning8]

Also, if you drive without a seatbelt, you probably don't intend to get into an accident

[Lightning8]

And by my question #2, I meant if you can separate her love and care from how she treats your emotional boundaries e. g. wearing revealing clothes around other men despite her man's wishes, then why not be all the way selfish and apply it to something like sleep-overs with male friends or worse? She still loves and cares for her man, right? So it's ok. No compromise needed, correct?

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Lightning8: If you trust your partner and know for sure that she wouldn't cheat on you, you would already know that she wouldn't give other men attention regardless of what she wears, even if you weren't around her. Controlling what your adult wife wears would not protect you from infidelity because whether she wears revealing clothes or dresses like a nun, if she wasn't faithful towards you, she would cheat on you regardless. The best way to protect yourself from infidelity is to avoid marrying an unfaithful woman. The best way to determine if she is unfaithful is to spend a lot of time with her and uncover her true personality before you propose to her.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Lightning8: Insecurity in this instance is not me "gaslighting." It is the truth. For example, my fiancee is an extremely handsome man. Before he leaves the house, he makes sure that he is well-groomed and nicely dressed. When we go out, I notice that many other women give him a lot of attention. However, he doesn't give them any attention in return. Because I am secure with myself and relationship status, I don't tell my fiancee to stop making myself look handsome so that other women stop giving him attention. If I did that, that would be very controlling and insecure of me. He has every right to tell me "no" and that he can look however he wants because he's grown. A woman wearing whatever she wants isn't much different. A woman doesn't always wear revealing clothes to garner male attention. She could simply be extremely hot (literally) and wear such clothes to feel more comfortable and cooler. Either way, if she is good-looking, men will give her attention because doing so is natural. However, if you a need to control what she wears because you feel that an infidelity would result from that male attention, then such is a result of trust issues and insecurity. That's truth, not gaslighting.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@Lightning8: Thanks for clarifying the second question. To answer it however, if her husband wants her to stop wearing what she wants to wear, she has the choice to cater to his wishes or not. If she truly wishes to heed her husband's wishes, then that's fine, as long as she is happy. I believe that adults should be able to make their own decisions, as long as they don't harm the well-being of their relationship, themselves, and other people around them. Thus, I believe that a wife should be able to tell her husband "no" without issues. Relationship health and strength is based on love and care. For instance, the primary reason why couples put up with the arguing, bickering, and other negativity going on in their relationship is because they truly love and care for one another. Her choosing to wear what she feels comfortable in, even if it could be considered "revealing" does not ruin the love and care that she has for you. Your wife can still love you and only you despite going out in a crop top, short shorts, and some flip-flops on a hot day. Therefore, a woman should not have any issues choosing to wear what she wants in a relationship.

[Lightning8]

You have a fiancé, but after you get married that isn't the end of working on your relationship and therefore the trust at the center of it.

Being handsome in the face isn't the same as wearing revealing clothes. It just isn't. Like it's been said, the revealing clothes can sometimes be like in-person softcore porn. Women don't even approach like men do generally.

Gaslighting someone isn't being insecure, but it is language that confuses and distracts. It can have truth to it as long as it distracts from the whole truth. You are responsible for your actions, and "you're just insecure" distracts from your lack of consideration as a partner.

People call men controling when they have certain standards in certain contexts, and they always take the standard out of the context to do so. But most often, if a man says what you are wearing is too much, there is a specific reason for it that requires both partners to think outside of themselves. There is usually a context to consider as well. I'm not saying it's never a situation of a controlling partner though.

[Lightning8]

And congratulations

[PatKirby]

@startingfitness She's using catch-phrases like "real man" to both justify and project her sluttonous activities. And the fact that you've revealed her true nature threatens that false certainty she's built up since her real father (if she even knows him) didn't bring her up appropriately.

Well done.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

@PatKirby: Mr. Stock Photo of a French Model Catfish Kirby, if you paid close attention to the discussion Mr. @startingfitness and I had, you would know that @startingfitness was the first one to bring up the "real man" claim. Apparently, he seems to believe that a "real man with balls" is one that doesn't allow his wife to make her own decisions, such as a decision as mundane as wearing what she wants to wear. Thus, that means he gave me his opinion on what makes man a "real man (with balls)." I replied to his opinion of a real man with my own, which is a man that is able to garner respect without demanding it, and a man that is able to respect his wife's choices as an adult, as long as those choices don't threaten the love and care that she has for her husband, or the status of the relationship. My reply wasn't based on "justifying" anything, whether I do it or not. You mention nothing about the fact that he brought up his view of a "real man" first, but you seemingly have a problem with my view of a real man. Why is that? In addition, he hasn't revealed a single thing about me throughout our discussion because I wasn't speaking on behalf of myself. My arguments are purely hypothetical. It's not about whether I would wear revealing clothes, but rather, hypothetically, if I wanted to, my husband can't make that decision for me.

[PatKirby]

I'll bet your knees hurt, slut.

[KrakenAttackin]

@PatKirby Aahhh... oh no he didn't!! 😁😁😁

[PatKirby]

You are not Boudica.
You are not Joan of Arc.
You are not a fucking Amazon.

You're a twat with mental problems.

Fortunately you've put up a thread to warn everyone.

[burlen]

Good observation but I think women with a false sense of entitlement should be included in your write-up.

One of my biggest turn-offs with some women nowadays is they feel and think entitled to certain treatment from men and society because of their sex or gender. This sense of entitlement can be subtle and explicit.

The explicit form could be "I want a guy who can make me laugh"; "Book a taxi for me". "You should wait for me—because I'm a woman, and you're the guy". "You should take me out for dinner". "You haven't changed the bulb"

I recently came back from Milan, Italy to celebrate my birthday with my best friend and two Russia girls. I expected four us to split the cost of the apartment we rented for two nights. The girls didn't contribute a dime. My friend and I did the grocery shopping.

We stepped out for dinner; my friend and I opted to use public transport to the restaurant. The girls insisted we should use uber, which is expensive than public transport. I said then called the uber; one of the girls responded I should. I asked why; she responded because I'm a woman. This is just one of the many instances the girls came across entitled because they happen to be women.

[roland77]

Selfish women they are! I dated one African and she expected me to pay. I looked at her face when we were asked to pay and she just looked (expecting me to pay) back at me. So I payed. On next date, I ask her (other woman) to split the bill!

[kim45456]

If you agrre with this, you an antiwoman

[nella965]

There is this misconception that there is "one woman fits all" for all men in the world. I have seen non submissive, hot headed , sarcastic women who are HAPPILY MARRIED to their husbands. There is no one size fits all woman for all men. These things are just your preferences or dislikes for your partners. It is in no way a reflection for all men. Some men like hot headed women, some men like women with an attitude, some men are not attracted to kind women.

This post just comes to shows the level of lack of experience you have.

[Djaay]

Men dont fall in love with smart ass women , they fall in love with KIND women.

[nella965]

@Djaay I am one of the kindest souls on earth and I can tell you thats not true. I know this from experience. Kind guys fall for kind women. Men who are not kind, do not tend to fall for kind women. And yes, being smart WILL increase a man's attraction and respect for you. We all want to pass on good genetics. Not man likes a dumb bimbo who can't do well in school.

[Djaay]

Its absolutely true... Women or men who engulf themselves with secular societal extremities or intellectual worldly academics are not following GODS commanded commandments.
Plain and simple.
Wisdom from GOD is the law of Kindness and this where true kindness comes from.

[nella965]

@Djaay People tend to be attracted to others who have the same qualities as they do. Extroverted men tend to like extroverted women. Kind men tend to fall for kind women. Witty people tend to enjoy other witty people.

[Djaay]

And men who are walking with CHRIST tend to no other than look for kind women in the same...

[ronaldo75]

" I have seen non submissive, hot headed , sarcastic women who are HAPPILY MARRIED to their husbands. " - These women now are married to men who are pussies. In the past these women were put in their place behind closed doors. I'm NOT refering to violence but I'm refering to men telling the to shut the fuck up or women knowing how far they can take their bullshit.

[kim45456]

@ronald75 aww are you butthurt that women dont submit to your bullshit?

[nella965]

@ronaldo75 No actually, one of these women was my former supervisor at a non profit. She was a nice woman but very headstrong, bossy and spunky. Her husband is tall, dark and handsome with a very deep sexy voice. I am a fierce , spunky woman myself but I also have a side to me thats also submissive. You really can't stereotype people that way.
Not all gay guys act like girls. Some gay guys look exactly like normal guys and behave like manly men.

[ronaldo75]

@kim45456 Submit to what bullshit? Stop projecting. You're 100% mad at OP staying he won't put up with trainwreck bitchy nonsense and you act like I"m some loser who wants to control women. YOU MAD HONEY... SO MAD.

[ronaldo75]

You're contradicting yourself and proving the take to be 100% true. I love it haha

[kim45456]

@ronaldo75

"These women now are married to men who are pussies." -You are just jealous that these woman dont want a wanna be alpha fag like you

"In the past these women were put in their place behind closed doors. I'm NOT refering to violence but I'm refering to men telling the to shut the fuck up or women knowing how far they can take their bullshit." - you want control over women. Go read what you wrote. You are just mad, that women dont take your bullshit.

[ronaldo75]

@kim45456 "You are just jealous that these woman dont want a wanna be alpha fag like you" - OOF fag? HAAAAAHAHAHAHAH... Look at you.. homophobia and everything.

[ronaldo75]

@kim45456 "you want control over women. Go read what you wrote. You are just mad, that women dont take your bullshit." - See? You're fucking stupid. I DO NOT want control over women. I want to be able to tell a women I'm bothered by her behavior. Is that controlling? Is a woman being controlling when she tells a man something is bothering her? Watch you respond with bullshit.

[nella965]

@ronaldo75 why do you think you're still unmarried? cuz ur not a man, fag. Women like real men, not those who try their hardest to be men.

[nella965]

@kim45456 he's not a man. All misogynists are weak men which is why they get scared shitless by women who make above minimum wage. They can't handle a woman voting or her ability to support herself because it makes them feel weak.

[Djaay]

ronaldo75... Men like you are men who have scorned women away from Christ and gave fear in her soul which chooses to run way from a living loving God.
I've got one encouraging word for you... Leave !!

[ronaldo75]

"cuz ur not a man, fag. Women like real men, not those who try their hardest to be men." - There you go with that homophobia again, bitch. You're 25 and calling me a faggot because I'm not married at 36? So what about the women who are not married at my age? Are they lesbians or something? Idiots like you are why millenials are mocked.

[nella965]

@ronaldo75 I'll always have more chance of getting married than you. You're a misogynist, there's no way any woman would want to marry you. Which is why you're still so bitter and hating on women over the internet. How much money is in your bank account if a woman who makes a dollar above min wage scares the shit outta you? Right.. you have no money

[nella965]

@Djaay You've said something thats right. Who the hell wants to marry a woman hater?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Nella965: Those guys are soft and their woman deep down don't respect them at all behind closed doors.

[nella965]

Thats a stereotype. But no, my supervisor is a headstrong woman and she's newly married. She sounds like she loves her husband very much , cares for him. He calls her all the time at work and even picks her up from work at lunch to drive her to McDonalds so they can have lunch together.

[nella965]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Thats a stereotype. But no, my supervisor is a headstrong, bossy woman and she's newly married. She sounds like she loves her husband very much , cares for him. He calls her all the time at work and even picks her up from work at lunch to drive her to McDonalds so they can have lunch together.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Yeah, ok. 👌

[ronaldo75]

There it is!!! Now she calls me a misogynist!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOO BOY!! You are beyond brainwashed but it's cool. People like you are fucked as the world corrects itself in the next few years.

[nella965]

@ronaldo75 You are actually mentally ill enough to believe that the US will change back into 1890s misogynism by 2021? Maybe if you just hate on women some more, then no woman would be working by 2020.

[ronaldo75]

DAMN YOU ARE SUPER DUPER MAD. I HAVE FEMALE CO-WORKERS LAUGHING THEIR ASSESS OFF AT YOU RIGHT NOW HAAAAAHAHAH

[nella965]

@ronaldo75 You're the one who is mad. Take a look who is typing in all caps lock. Nobody is laughing. You're just making shit up to save face. Tell them that you only date women who makes min wage. See who would be willing to date you

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@Djaay you don't have to follow God to be kind.

[Djaay]

True , but then why would not. ?

[Djaay]

You*

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@ronaldo75 dude you are a joke.
She is right when she says some men like dominant and hit headed women. You say they are submissive men, pussies as you call them. Ya maybe they are. So what? They are still men who like that kind of women. Doesn't mean their women won't respect or love them.
Also believe me some hardcore guys love dominant women. We like to be challenged by our partners, gives spice to the relationship.
Also not a single soul will believe that women in your workplace are actually seeing this.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@Djaay many people don't believe in a higher power or entity.

[Djaay]

That's to bad... its still there whether or not they believe it or not.

[nella965]

@ThisIsMyOpinion I don't think men like the sexist ronald (from above) respect women. Its not a manly or dominant type thing. Just because you're dominant, it doesn't mean you strip the womens right to vote or that its OK to take away a woman's right to do what she loves in her life. These men do not believe that women should have the right to freedom or happiness. It is only his happiness that matters.

She may work a career but she may also be submissive within the relationship. Just because she works a job, it doesn't mean she can't be feminine. I am one of the most feminine women you'll ever meet and I'm career oriented.

[nella965]

Believe it or not, there are feminine women who are also hot headed. There are feisty women who can be submissive in bed. There are high IQ individuals who don't always make the right decisions in life. I have seen skinny scrawny dudes have a way higher sex drives and perform way better than the buff masculine guys. I'm a feminist whose life goal is to have children but also want to have right to pursue anything I want in life.

You really can't generalize the human population or live on stereotypes. Because stereotypes simply aren't true. Humans come in all shapes and forms. And people need to acknowledge that.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@nella965 I also don't think he does respect women or had any experience with them.

Yes I agree. My wife has a good career and is a super loving and feminine women.

[Bee-Hatch]

WTF is wrong with you? if you really believe all this there's only one thing you can do. Convert to Islam and move to the middle east. You'll find plenty of folk who share your outlook on all these bad things women do, and if they step out of line on you, you can beat them back into submission.

[Battooot]

You clearly don't really know much about Islam, and you clearly have never been to the middle east.

Coming from someone who lived in Syria (before the war) and Abu Dhabi (in UAE) for over 18 years. It is nothing like you described.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Bee-Hatch: You clearly missed the point.

[Djaay]

You seem as a very unGodly women all men should definitly avoid. Thanks for being such an example

[CubsterShura]

Darling if you think Muslim women have no authority in the house then you clearly have never been to a Muslim household. There is a reason our moms are described as 'Tigress' 😂😂😂

[Djaay]

@CubsterShura. That's WITCHCRAFT

[CubsterShura]

@Djaay ikr

[Djaay]

CubsterShura... The sad thing about most women today is that they are just as wanted and precious to God as men are in the Heavens.
They definitly have a place of true equality only in Heaven its self.

[CubsterShura]

@Djaay And they are equal on earth as well. Not identical, but definitely equal.

[Djaay]

@CubsterShura. NO... Not true. Only the women who are saved through CHRIST and GOD. And those men also. The rest I'm afraid are going to Heavens junk yard. Hell is still in business.

[Djaay]

As a saved follower of CHRIST I will treat a woman deserving of it equal. But the rest of the world will never do that...

[roland77]

@Djaay Spare us with your religious nonsense, please!

[Djaay]

Roland77. Shut up !!

[roland77]

@Djaay Yepp. Er, wait. No!

[fashionguy17]

Good take... but these are the types I avoid:

1. The woman who lives on social media and posts every 10 minutes.

2. The woman who takes a million selfies a day.

3. The girl who is always partying and is drunk at all these parties.

4. The girl who is always out 24/7 and never goes home.

5. Oh... and my favorite... the "there's no good men out there" women... but they have no problem dating a complete bum.

The irony of 1-5 is that all of these all relate to each other in some way or another. Those the types of women you don't want to get with.

[roland77]

See, you got yourself 1 female down-vote. :-) And hey, those are the women I always want to avoid, including gold-diggers. There ARE good and bad women and men but that doesn't mean that all are BAD because a few/more are.

[fashionguy17]

@roland77 Meh... there's always that "one"... the woman who disagrees because I've pointed out some of her flaws and she doesn't like it. LMAO.

[roland77]

Yes, reconsidering yourself by making a step back and take a little distant look on what you do.

[Gottabsavagee]

I am guilty 😂 I do like guys attention so I do dress good to catch guys attention. I am addicted to that however not like really slutty 😂

I do talk sht about others cause I find it fun but I’d never diss someone to hurt them. If it’s shit talking it only stays between me and the person I’m telling it to.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Being a gossip isn't cool. I like your honestly though.

[jwsstein]

You like dressing good to catch guys attention this is amazing I like it when woman dress amazing and catches my full attention and so now you have it you should send a picture of your beautiful jaw dropping self in something really nice

[roland77]

I don't care about how a female is dresses. Only when it comes to re-identify her in the middle of a big crowd and then take her to a one-on-one place. I do care more in characteristics and 2 I dislike is being submissive or dominant. I'm #Libra at heart and I truly love real equality, not fake, anti-male "equality".

[Kaazsz]

This is all based on evolutionary psychology and it’s pretty bogus. Just be rational human beings. That’s all that’s needed. The idea that females should submit is cultural. We are all human beings who are conscious of reality. We are able to think rationally and act accordingly, because of the fact that we are conscious of our reality.

Some people still live like animals and think like animals. This post is for those people. But not everyone is like that. Many people realize we are rational and able to make rational decisions.

These ideas about males and females having some sort of evolutionarily obtained sexual structure is bogus. And that’s what all of this is based on.

[roland77]

"We think to much, we feel to little." Remember please that one.

[Kaazsz]

An emotion is an automatic response, an automatic effect of man’s value premises. An effect, not a cause. There is no necessary clash, no dichotomy between man’s reason and his emotions—provided he observes their proper relationship. A rational man knows—or makes it a point to discover—the source of his emotions, the basic premises from which they come; if his premises are wrong, he corrects them. He never acts on emotions for which he cannot account, the meaning of which he does not understand. In appraising a situation, he knows why he reacts as he does and whether he is right. He has no inner conflicts, his mind and his emotions are integrated, his consciousness is in perfect harmony. His emotions are not his enemies, they are his means of enjoying life. But they are not his guide; the guide is his mind. This relationship cannot be reversed, however. If a man takes his emotions as the cause and his mind as their passive effect, if he is guided by his emotions and uses his mind only to rationalize or justify them somehow—then he is acting immorally, he is condemning himself to misery, failure, defeat, and he will achieve nothing but destruction—his own and that of others.

[Kaazsz]

Taken from the Ayn Rand lexicon. Ayn Rand integrates emotion into rationality, in what I believe is the correct way.

Emotions are not discarded as unneeded products of evolution. Emotions are very important and they help guide you. Ayn Rand goes deep into this in her philosophy.

I believe she’s right. But I don’t do it justice. One wouldn’t think Ayn Rand, or any person who values rationality would also value emotion. I can’t explain it, as you would literally have to read her work. But I think she’s correct. She definitely highly values emotion, but it’s hard to explain why lol.

[Kaazsz]

Anyways, people really want to confirm the idea that males are supposed to have an alpha that fucks all the females, and females all only want the alpha so they share him, and all the beta males go sexless.

That is what you believe human beings are programmed to do. All of this is a thought experiment made up by people who don’t know what the fuck they are talking about. NONE of them scientists in any way. I’m not saying scientists know everything, but seriously? You think you know shit about human nature?

You have PURPOSEFULLY avoided learning any of the science. You believe the silly leftists are too PC to look at reality. And I’m one to agree. But I’m sorry but this is basic science.

They have long since proven that human sexuality is extremely malleable. That we change based on environment, culture, ideas. Also other things like resources, food water shelter, it all plays a role in how our society approaches sex.

You think the way we are today is a product of our evolution and nothing else. That’s wrong. Our genetics only do so much.

Animals are extremely simple. They understand animals really well. Human beings are insanely complex and be barely understand ourselves at all.

[Kaazsz]

The level of detail scientists have gone to, to understand us is insane. But because you believe they are ignorant leftists, you have chosen to disregard it, claiming they are too PC or ignorant to see your perspective.

Your perspective is wrong and it’s been proven wrong for a long time. There is no right way men and women should interact. It all depends on culture. It depends on ideas. It depends on resources.

[JSmuve]

Agreed. I definitely don't want a duplicitous, obnoxious, domineering, hot-headed, mouthy girl who dresses like a ho and would make an unfit mother. But the picture of the woman you have as "dressing like a hooker" is totally gorgeous. It shouldn't be legal to look that good.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

LOL.. I could have picked another but yeah she is very pretty.

[GennySanders]

Obviously a hooker 😂

[SueAnon84]

Boob job... and being a healthy twenty something!

... I have similar assets but I don't want to be arrested for indecent exposure!

[GennySanders]

😂💀

[JSmuve]

@SueAnon84 Ain't nothing indecent about that exposure

[kim45456]

Another fag

[CalabrianClaudia]

Some men like these kinds of women. I don't see why these qualities are bad. Some women are chatter boxes and very direct! This means they don't deserve love? And I think getting angry is normal. Everyone get angry.
What did you do piss her off so much that she came after you with a machete?
I think your problem is that Latino like yourself are extremely mysonginistic and expect women to submit to you, and if we don't, we are bad! If anything, it's men like YOU women should stay away from.

[CalabrianClaudia]

By the way, your username name is very narcissistic. Why don't you let others decide if you are cool? Because you seem like a Hispanic DUMB guy, not a cool one

[KrakenAttackin]

You sound like a real pain in the ass.

[CalabrianClaudia]

@KrakenAttackin I'm just telling it like it is. Italian women have a lot of the qualities he listed, so if every man thought like him, my people would go extinct. It's not my fault he cannot handle tough women. Men like him just expect us to shut up and submit, and when we stand up for ourselves WE'RE the bad ones.
Also, it's a known fact that some races are more misogynistic than others. I've met a lot of minotiry women who say they prefer white men for this very reason.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@CalabrianClaudia: Those traits are horrible in women and typically only bad one have those traits. And I never said a woman must shut up and submit. Don't try to make me look like a sexist because I'm not one. I love women and I'm all about fairness.

[CalabrianClaudia]

Well, that's your opinion but that doesn't change the fact that some men like those traits and those women still deserve love. I'm not making you look like a sexist, YOU are. I don't believe that you aren't a misogynist after reading this post. You basically said that a woman being dominant is a bad thing, which means you want to be the boss. And you never answer me, why she attack you with a machete?

[Dargil]

Although this may fit in your others,
Any female who emits even the slightest hint of Social Justice and Feminist misandry.
Stereotypical, sarcastic slurs about men, words like "patriarchy", etc. Set your detector on its most sensitive. Have sex with them if you must but do not procreate or let them raise or teach children. Research their employment and academic backgrounds with a fine tooth comb and remember: Even the most absurd allegation can ruin your life. No pussy is worth that, and that's all most of these women have. Better to stock up on sex toys.

[ronaldo75]

I have 2 SJW "hate all cis men" girls that have crushes on me at the moment and while they're both cute I wouldn't DARE make a move.

[Dargil]

@ronaldo75 They have to do it. And even then, they can still bite. An inferior lay can become rape.

[kim45456]

So it is ok to be antiwoman but not ok to be a feminist?

[Dargil]

@kim45456 What straight man would want to be anti-woman? Unfortunately, the current crop is infected with Feminist Derangement Syndrome. The Creator, by his love and grace, has provided lovers of authentic feminine womanhood with a bumper crop of uninfected East Asian and Latin American women waiting to fill the the vacancies left by misandrist feminist women.

[crazy8000]

Very reasonable to want from a partner and yes it exists a lot of them.
Not really my type with some of the traits.
Can't stand submissive female's = passive.
That doesn't mean I'm in to dominating one's eater since that's a o overcompensating treat grom insecure submissive one.

Hot head is hot in some ways and of in others.

Sarcasm tends to be toxic since it's used in wrong situations in the wrong way.

Never home screams lack of interest and investment in relationship.

Doesn't know when to shut up can be a relief as much as toxic.

[HomoFuge]

So, in other words, be prepared to die alone because most women have one of these traits.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

You're right to an extent.

[soleil2666]

Which is why the white population is dropping and we have men going their own way - women are raised to be angry obnoxious creatures as if that is somehow sweet or endearing. the new goal is to be the woman-child forever (and those, unlike man-child guys, don't get fixed by anything).
Luckily the minority don't posses any of those traits - the rest also get to die alone.

[morrowlow]

we'll have sex robots and dogs to keep us company. you better worry about yourself

[ronaldo75]

A life of having sex with random women a few times a year but coming home to a peaceful home with no stress or bitch driving me insane has been my life for a few years now and it's awesome. I could do it for the rest of my life with no problem.

[kim45456]

@soleil2666 says the one who hate on women. Why it is ok if a man like him can hate on women

[soleil2666]

@kim45456 I don't 'hate' - and certainly not 'on'. Will take from your vocabulary that your socioeconomics are somewhere low on the spectrum where those female 'qualities' listed here are frequent.

[Kiran_Yagami]

Don't forget obnoxious amounts of selfies and self indulgent posts on social media. A woman who values only herself, her image, and those who stroke her ego is a huge red flag. You look at her instragram and you'd think she's single, even when she's been dating a man for a year. Don't be that poor schmuck.

[roland77]

Here in social media, they portray them as kind and loving but in real world, slutty as hell. Sure not all women are liars but that is not what I'm saying.

[Grande_Beefy_Swirl]

Ah, yes. Advice from the king of female behavior. 👏 let us all bow before him: Lord of all that is Female, and let him tell you what is and is not acceptable in his kingdom.

[hellionthesagereborn]

So. . . he is doing exactly what every single woman on the planet does?

[Bebuccia]

In love, it's all relative and very subjective. There's no universal recipe of what you must avoid or not. Speaking of myself, I have quite a strong non-submissive attitude, and my professional career is pretty much the focus of my life - meaning some people could define me as "a workaholic woman with an attitude". I have a boyfriend since 2 years, he loves me, I love him and our relationship is very happy. He's not a doormat, I seriously hate that kind of guys. He has his own opinions, we have discussions (sometimes heated), but he fell in love with me also out of fascination with my strong character and my vision of life. So we find a halfway point where we meet and make our relationship function very well. We talk about marriage and he recently bought a flat for us to move in together, so I guess it's pretty serious. :)

[KrakenAttackin]

He bought a flat so you can sponge off of him. Way to be "liberated".

[lexiepotter]

These are all exaggerated traits. Some women have these to an extent, but you describe everything to the extreme. I think dealing with absolutes Is not the way

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

A individual woman might have all these traits, one or a couple, nevertheless these traits a woman can have are horrible and not worthy of relationship material.

[Anonymous]

you sound ridiculous. you want a girl to always be "submissive"? your egotistical attitude is incredibly unattractive. no girls are gonna like you if you act so obnoxious. grow up. your acting like a ten year old boy going through puberty.

[roland77]

Says someone not being even adult!

[KrakenAttackin]

@roland77 Yup. She thinks she has an idea about how the world works.

[Gstacy703]

I don’t think guys like dealing with bitchy dominant types that are controlling or that go as far as looking into their phones or restrict them from going out with their friends...

[roland77]

Thanks! True equality is the word, not some anti-male fake-equality.

[kim45456]

So are women. We dont a controlling wanna be dominant bastard

[KrakenAttackin]

@kim45456 Yeah, you want a limp-dick soy boy with a fat wallet.

[kim45456]

And you want a limp dick soy girl

[KrakenAttackin]

@kim45456 Kim, you would be good for some serious hate-sex.

[roland77]

With my 2nd ex-wife in mind, I can agree with you. She was very touchy at me and blamed me for all and everything. Very frustrating and it causes depression on me because she was a #Filipina and I had a cute daughter with her. Now she tries everything to keep me away from my daughter.

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Wanna see a picture? PM me!

[roland77]

And avoid the #golddigger, #money-only seeker type. I had that in a #German woman. She grabbed 250 EUR from me and wanted to give me a #blowjob for getting more money.

[roland77]

And yes, avoid these next-generation #feminists at all costs! They are male-haters!

[startingfitness]

you got all them bitches riled up with this one xD.
not so funny anymore when it happens the other way I guess.

these are some interesting points though. the first two points two specific people I knew come into my mind. and yes they are definitely the type to avoid

[roland77]

Just let it happen other way around, she will loose hell on him!

[kim45456]

Triggered bastard