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Why does it seem like Girls are more forgiving to their men that cheat then Guys are to their Girls that cheat?
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A high value man is far more valuable than a beautiful woman; beauty is cheap. While woman have an abundance mentality in the sense of many male suitors, only few guys actual stand out as actually datable in their eyes. Hence the term "Where are all the good men" being used by modern women a lot these days.
So when you are a woman and you finally get your "prince charming" and all other male options are just toads in your eyes, you are going to tolerate and be forgiving of cheating because the prospect of having to go back on dating market is a bleak though in her eyes. Kevin talks about this in his video below with Jessica Lee Wong who is a model in Miami.
Now why are men less tolerant of cheating? For one sex can lead to babies and many women will often keep their affairs secret and stick the guy she thinks would be the best dad for her child with the bill of raising him/her regardless of if he is the actual father. In addition, states reinforce this behavior because on an individual level government does not want to pay the bill of having to take care of this human.
Another reason men are far less forgiving is pride and emasculation. Many men see a woman cheating on him and going for another male as her basically saying he is not manly enough for her and it takes a big blow to a male's ego when he finds out his woman wants another male.
Men are also less forgiving about cheating because men have the reverse of what women have. While there are many men on planet, women only see a handful (top 20% of males) as datable.
For men, we see beautiful women all the time and even appreciate the average 5/10 girl as a potential prospect of a mate on a genuine level. So when a girl cheats we are willing to pack up shot and go for another girl because there are thousands out there. Granted it will take an average man longer to get another girl post breakup and yes some men are pathetic enough to remain after cheating.
There are 7100 languages in the world and you chose to speak facts.
To me, it's about attitude, motive, and exact third party. If she thought I'd dropped off the map, and tried to move on, but couldn't, then felt guilty when I returned, I could forgive. If she's cheating with multiple partners, isn't sorry, expects me to be a cuck full time, laughs at my grief, and still expects me to be at her beck and call? That girl is getting thrown to the curb, and isn't getting another chance!
Likewise, if a man is simply weak, women might forgive, due to nurturing instinct. And because he's a survival ticket if society collapses. Natural instinct tells her that throwing him out should be a last resort. Now, if he's a complete asshole, that changes things. Then, she can be understood to kick him to the curb.
In hunter-gatherer days, mothers were essential for children until about the age of six. Fathers became the primary teachers and nurturers after that, with mothers assuming a role of lesser responsibility. Things equaled out. In the modern era, nothing is so readily predictable. Yet, if the man has lost hope of meaningful family planning and paternity, then a woman needs to be of value outside of biology to be needed. So women who betray that, devalue what's left of their value. Making men less inclined to forgive.
I suspect this is a hold over from back when women pretty much needed a husband. Women gained the right to open their own bank account in the 60s. "Women's jobs" didn't pay very much. It was extremely difficult to support yourself without a husband. So, back then, if your man cheated, you probably looked the other way to protect your own quality of life. To this day, while it's not nearly as severe, women still tend to make less money than men, struggle with negotiating for raises, and can be discriminated against based on things like "oh, she could get pregnant and take maternity leave, and then want to spend more time with the kids, so better not give her the big promotion" even if she's completely single.
So... it could very well be financially motivated. Even if she doesn't realize it is or is well-off financially herself, she may have been taught that all men cheat and it's not a big deal and that a good woman forgives and forgets from the older women (or even the men) in her family who passed down the idea that you need a man to be stable. These things can be generational.
As for men, I would suspect it's the pregnancy thing. I don't think not wanting to be cheated on needs much justification, but I would assume doubt over paternity would make it worse.
Not a lot of experience to know on this, I would have to guess. The one girl I knew that her husband cheated on her, forgave him cause she had like 25 sexual partners before they met, and he had 3... so she was still like, I'm way ahead of you. In this case, he wasn't emotionally cheating, just physically.
I suspect that if two people were each others first, got married and all it might be much harder for one to forgive the other though... seems in those cases people always go for divorce.
Otherwise I think it is one of those things you never know if you'll forgive or not until your in that situation. We can say we never will but then if it happens have to re-evaluate that pre-made decision.
what kind of a guy would marry a girl with that high of a body count when he’s only had 3? 😂
@dolemite89 Clearly this guy, maybe he thought he'd never get a girl or something so he settled.
sounds like the definition of a simp 🤣
@Aerissa_Jade Probably mean to say but when he leaves her and or cheat on her, she’ll deserve it for being an idiot allowing him to cheat to begin with 🤷♀️
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Girls don't tend to build their self worth around their sexual prowess like men do. To most girls sex is best experienced as a way to enhance their feelings for someone. And when a guy cheats the main reason women are upset about it is because they take it as an indication that their guy is trying to get emotionally involved in someone else. So, when a guy insists it was just for the sex women, assuming she believes him, tend to view it with much the same disapproval that they would if they caught him masturbating but that's not enough to end a relationship.
Of course, many women have trouble believing sex is just for the sake of sex. Even if the guy means it they know the girl he slept with usually doesn't - a man can only squirt so much into a girl's mouth before he either has to move on or stay forever, after all.
The point is while there is some competition among women for who is better at sex it is almost laughable compared to the mountain of emotional mudslides that is the male competition for it. So, when a woman cheats it cuts to the core of what we build our self esteem around. This is also where the concept of "emotional cheating" comes from. It's something women get really upset about if a man does it but women can do it in front of their man and half the time he won't even notice - the other half is probably just happy she's getting all that out in someone else's ear. Words and worries are what women have instead if ejaculate. The sort of girl who would pay for her guy to have a prostitute is equivalent to the sort of guy who would pay for his girl to have a therapist.
One of the major problems with guys cheating is women are generally more attracted to taken men vs single men when all else equal. Men (for the most part) are not more drawn to taken women. But women unfortunately enable these shitty scenarios. When I was in a relationship in the past it was insane how much more “friendly” other women acted towards me. Actually pissed me off. Where were you when I was single?
Anyway when it comes to women likeability = respect. They have a much harder time understanding the difference.
They will tolerate prolonged abuse from a man they like including cheating. They also don’t feel as much guilt for cheating on a man they do NOT really like. They often try to do mental gymnastics to justify that bs.
I am glad you came to acknowledge that your past actions were wrong. You understand that your bs emotions didn’t justify what you did. That’s another difference between men and women. I don’t see as many women taking ownership for their bs vs how men do it.
Because men take being cheated on as a way more serious and huge hit to their ego than women do.
Yeah, we get sad and offended that you chose to be disloyal to us in that manner. But we also know there's a line up of 100s more waiting to get a chance to please us too.
We can and will get over it quickly. Now, if she forgives you, consider yourself lucky.. There's a lot of bitches out there that won't give you the time of day after something like that, and I am one of those bitches lol. If you don't respect me enough to just end it with me like a real man once you're realizing I'm just not what you think you want anymore, then you ain't worth a lick of my time anyway.
Boy bye! 🙅♀️💁♀️🤷♀️
It definitely is an ego thing for men , What attracts us to a girl other than her beauty and personality is the fact that she is loyal to us and only has eyes for us and stays faithful to us and gives us lots of sex without really having to initiate it when she comes to us it’s a huge turn on , When a guy hears that the girl he gave his heart to has been screwed by other guys it’s a turn off to most men , why so many guys are against being with a girl that already has kids with someone else. For most guys to be happy and content in a relationship he needs to feel valued and respected and wanted by his girl for him to provide and protect her and to stay loyal to her and yes sex. Little do most girls realize sex is huge for a man , when a girl constantly says No to her man when he tries to have sex with her , it kills his ego, He feels she doesn’t value him and he
Feels the she doesn’t find him attractive anymore , when she constantly pushes him away he is more prone to accepting it From elsewhere, being drawn to another girl that will make him feel valued and wanted , And yes it’s ok if she says No at times but if she is constantly saying No she is damaging him inside. He will blame her for his actions and feel justified to cheat on her. The girl I cheated on was a girl that used sex as a weapon towards me she made
Me feel like I had to earn it and once in a blue moon she would throw me a bone , it felt like she was just stringing me along when before having sex with her wasn’t a hard task whatso ever When she started saying No to me constantly and criticizing me and making me feel like I was just a convenience to her , another girl that had her eyes set on me started moving in on me , I was drawn to how this other girl was treating me and thought to myself damn my girlfriend is a fucking bitch compared to this girl , this girl makes me feel good about myself , she is nothing but positive and my girlfriend is nothing but negative , I started thinking why
Am I tolerating this abuse from my girlfriend when I have this beautiful girl complimenting me and making me feel better about myself? So I was drawn to it and ended up having amazing sex with with this other girl , even though I felt guilty for what I was doing I felt justified not realizing I was just a selfish piece of shit that cheating wasn’t the answer , No relationship is perfect and we are all imperfect people so my thing now is if I am in a committed relationship and things are bad , I am going
To do my best to fix it and make it work as long as she is willing as well , if I end up cheating or she ends up cheating then just walk away and realize you deserve someone that is going to fight for you like you will fight for them , removing selfishness for each other and sacrificing for each other is what makes love grow , That’s the only way I will be in a committed relationship with someone. If not then it’s just a waste of time I will just stay single and be selfish I am not
Going To pretend that I honestly love someone if I can’t do those things for her , So by me being a piece of shit in my past to me was a learning experience
I can’t speak for all men I can only really speak of my experiences, considering we are all individual people and we all have freewill and experienced our own journey in life , the one thing I can say about all of us , is we are all imperfect people , and we all have our own beliefs and outlooks on things and we all have made good and bad decisions and we all have selfishness in us. Life to me is two sides of a coin , just because I agree with something it doesn’t mean you will agree with me. And that is ok, it doesn’t make you a bad person , I can only base my perceptions off Of things I experienced and witnessed throughout my life. Me personally feels relationships today are harder than they were back then , I blame a lot of it on social media , and technology that we are drawn to and all the useless knowledge we warp our brains into , I look at my parents that were married for over 50 years that were inseparable , when shit went wrong in their relationship they fixed it instead of jumping to someone else to save them , my parents didn’t carry around cell phones and going on social media apps they made each other their priority because times were different then, nowadays people have easy access into each other’s lives with a few clicks from a device that we carry with us at all times People today aren’t as content as they were back then cuz we are drawn to nonsense that we see on our phones , or talking to people from our past that we probably never would of seen or heard from again but all of a sudden they are only a few clicks away. When I go on social media apps all I see is all girl’s cheat all guys cheat blah blah blah , if your partner is doing this they are more than likely cheating on you , we as people are easily drawn to this nonsense , we all have insecurities we all want to be valued and loved and wanted not compared and feel worthless , Social media is a marketing tool to make
Money it’s designed to draw people in , I can go on and on about
Why I feel social media has damaged us and has damaged relationships, and why marriages don’t make it as much anymore , Think about it , Divorce is a money maker keeps the Lawyers in business, Advertisements etc. This whole world is focused on money and power we live in a controlled society our government is the biggest joke their is , let’s legalize marijuana so we can control the people more when they are high they won’t give 2 shits the Marijuana industry is making a killing all of a sudden marijuana has health benefits it stops anxiety and stress etc. Again I can go on and on but the one thing I believe in is love , finding someone that will stand by me like I stand by them , someone that will sacrifice for me like I sacrifice for them , Without that we really don’t have nothing on this planet , I don’t need a girl to stand by me , I am capable of supporting myself but I want a girl to stand by me cuz she wants to be loved the same way I love her , we as people can only give what we receive , we can’t force someone to love us we can only fight for them to stand by us , removing selfishness and sacrificing for each other is the only way love will grow , if you can’t remove selfishness for someone then they can’t remove selfishness for you
Because men see everything as a conquest, and giving good sex to women is a conquest.
A man wants to see the woman he fucks lose her mind over how good he is at fucking.
However if he gets cucked, he takes it as, that his woman is publicly declaring to others that he is not good at bed, and therefore it makes him feel very ashamed and emasculated.
Women on the other hand have a bias about men that "MEN" are sexual creatures and they like to fuck around because that makes them feel like such an alpha male... So they take it more as "his dick couldn't resist"... they still get upset but blame it on physiology.
A woman will be more baffled if her man is "Emotionally" withdrawn from her because she is supposed to be this nice and comforting lover to her man.
For Whore men yes that’s a conquest , But for a guy with morals that actually values and loves his girl he wants to make sure she gets off before he does , He won’t be satisfied unless she is. But it’s interesting that you mentioned this cuz I dated girls that told me if I cheated on them just make sure I didn’t fall in love with them , which to me was a fucked up thing to say , so basically she is saying she is fucking other guys as well is how I took it , which was a huge turn off to me Or girls that say oh it’s just sex like it doesn’t mean anything , to me those girls are just straight up whores or they are using it as a manipulative tactic who knows but that’s why those girls aren’t in my life anymore , No guy wants a girl he gives his heart to to be pounded by some other guy , if he does than he is a twisted individual and if a girl is ok with me banging other girls as long as I don’t fall in love , she is a twisted individual as well , I don’t commit to be single bottom line , if a girl can’t be faithful to me then I sure as hell can’t be faithful to her bottom line
@Finchie40
i don't think you're aware of what the average modern young man is like. Modern young guys hookup and sleep around. Modern young guys do not care about a woman getting off before he does. In fact most modern guys dont even like to do foreplay. They see foreplay as a hassle. The old times where a woman's sexual satisfaction / pleasure comes first is long gone. The old days where it was frowned upon to sleep around has drastically faded. Most modern young people have hooked up in one way or the other. YOu see this in urban areas a lot
Sadly I been starting to see it and just have to say this world has gone to hell in a hand basket because the shit that has been going on and they way people think today is just beyond selfishness , social media I feel played a big factor on how people look at each other today and it’s just sad , Everyone is a cheater and everyone is selfish and thinks grass is greener on the other side to the point of love really exists
When i was young and naive, it was easier to forgive because you always thought with your emotions/heart rather than with logic/brain. As i got older, i never forget and only forgive enough to find peace/closure and remain cordial. I would only take back a cheater if i didn't have options or had a low self esteem. My esteem is not high but its high enough to know i have options and that there are too many fish in the sea to go back to a cheater
1. On average, men tend to make more money than women. A woman leaving her husband may have a lot of financial consequences for her when she has to raise her kids all on her own. Yes, its usually always the mother who ends up with the kids: working full time and raising the kids.
2. Men tend to cheat out due to sexual reasons while women tend to cheat for emotional reasons. Women tend to figure this out. Its not as bad if your partner cheated for sex compared to cheating because she loves someone else.
3. Women tend to be more tolerant by nature compared to men.
For most of history men have had more to lose from a woman cheating than a woman has from a man cheating in a species of monogamy.
Its only relatively recently however that either side had mitigating technologies and institutions such as DNA tests and enforced Martial claims.
in general when a woman cheats, a man could end up supporting anther man's child, and for most of history this was regarded as a crime against the man by the other man, not merely a crime of the woman.
When a man cheats the woman is risking a share of his resources going to support the other woman's child. This of course was fixed in most cultures by Marital institutions which simply de-legitimized the other child, protecting the married partner's claim.
Because at a certain point in their life women are dependent on men. They invested a lot of time into the relationship, maybe they have a child together. And in general women are less confrontational and prefer to have peace and keep the life they build. They care about stability and it's not like a man can get pregnant and have her unknowingly raise his child as her own. Also, men tend to have more self respect than women. That's why it baffles me that some men think it's women who have control over dating... it might be that women are more selective but they have to be because if they chose the wrong person it's a lot harder for them to walk away from the consequences.
There is this thing called the pareto principle in dating where 90 % of the women are sexually interested in the same 10 % of men, this has been proven from the swipe patterns of women on dating sites where anonymity is guaranteed. So the same 10% of guys are with several women, often simultaneously and can cheat because they are not too concerned about being single. So statistically the perception is that men cheat more than women, but it's actually the elite men who have the options and exercise them.
So I did a little bit of looking into like statistics
I don't know if this is related or not but I'm just bringing it out here cuz I feel like it could be useful too finding the real answer
A study says that 20% of men cheat and 13% of women cheat but that the Gap is closing because women are slowly starting to cheat more not cheat more than men but just cheat more in general
I found this information on fatherly. com and a few other websites they said the same thing but their source for the statistic is the 2018 general social survey
Do with this information as you wish it may or may not help with the topic and you can do as you push just please don't harass me about it because I'm not up to that
Listen the fact that you're asking this question is not a good sign. Let me break this down to you. It is harder for guys to cheat than women so typically the caliber of man able to cheat is one that all women want. What goes through a womens head is where can I find another man like this to replace this one and the answer is usually nowhere. A woman cheating is easy and doesn't take much effort so most people loose respect for woman who take advantage of that privilege. Think about it everytime your woman left the house you would know that she could bang anyone she wants at any time, why would man keep that around?
Cuz Girls are good at keeping secrets as well , Through my experiences and things I have witnessed from a majority of Girls is they are very good at keeping things secret , Girl’s night out tends to be crazier than Guys night out , I witnessed more Girl’s cheating then men when I worked as a bouncer at a nightclub so my thinking is a girl that gives a cheating partner another Chance is a girl that has already cheated or plans on cheating once she realizes that she can’t get over the fact that her man cheated on her , why it’s best for people just to part ways once cheating has took place because 2 wrongs don’t make a right
@Finchie40 Sounds like we're discussing two different things. You originally asked why are girls more forgiving than guys and I explained why. I'm not sure what the 1st part of your statement has to do w/ that. As for your second part I worked in the nightlife industry in LV for years and currently have a small steak in a strip club. Unless you're working in some small podunk town where everyone knows everyone, how would you know whose "cheating" simply he being a bouncer? You're theory about why girls forgive is an interesting one, I'm just not sure if the bouncer experience would be the validation.
@Finchie40 So it is a Podunk town. If they know their person is at that one specific nightclub, there's probably not many clubs around. Also you said "her" are we talking 1 girl only?
@Finchie40 Lol, sounds like some small town b. s. I don't think that's representative of the real world.
It's estimated that anywhere from 60% to 80% of ALL divorces in the US are started by the wives. Don't think women are all that much more forgiving! PEOPLE that cheat are a subhuman POS not worth continuing a relationship with. In my circle of friends, I know roughly 30 people that I call really good friends. About 20 of them are females that kicked their cheating POS husband out on his ass! Some have remarried and some are single now.
@Enigma07 I know this statement is not going to be popular. Based on direct observations of hundreds of attempts at reconciliation, most don't last much past 3 years. Infidelity is a mortal blow regardless if it is a man or woman doing it. A relationship NEVER goes back to what it was. What happens though is what looks like a successful reconciliation. A deeper look shows they become roommates OR the relationship was not all that great to start with. It's not about forgiving a cheater. It's about trusting them again. I spoke to a guy several months ago who finally threw in the towel. His wife got off work at 6 PM, if she was not at home by 6:45 PM his heart stopped. Finally, he could not put up with the stress and moved out. It's really sad, but two people should NEVER live together like that just for the kids. Kids have an uncanny knack for seeing through that BS. Better for them to live in separate homes then be exposed to this BS.
I have no idea, maybe women can answer why they are more willing to stay.
I caught my 1st wife with the landlord.
I left, I had no desire to stay.
I had an ex girlfriend that was cheating and I left that relationship.
My wife caught her ex cheating and left him.
For me it's a matter of trust, once that is gone, so am I.
Life is too short to put up with someone you don't trust.
It does seem that way but I don't tolerate cheating I don't cheat and expect the same. I'm not going to stay with someone who's fucking other people behind my back. I don't know who this field have slept with and I don't know if he used a condom so it's not worth it for me to stay
I think it's one of two reasons. Either she doesn't have confidence/respect for herself or she doesn't see it as a big deal.
Some women can see that a man cheating (while still totally disgusting and wrong) is very different than a woman cheating (generally)
Men don't need or look for an emotional connection when having sex. Most guys who have sex with lots of women have developed the skill of pretty much faking a connection with women.
Generally speaking, when a woman has sex with someone, they have some kind of emotional attachment to that person. It's a requirement for many women to even get aroused.
But guys don't even really understand this concept. It's almost foreign to us. We just see a women with a nice body and our biology handles the rest. Love and attachment comes after.
There are some women who are less bothered by the man cheating because she knows her relationship with the man is not threatened by it.
That should be obvious because no man has ever convinced his partner that a baby he had with another woman is her baby. However, women do that all the time. Having sex is insignificant compared to spending a quarter of million dollars raising another man's child.
Simple: financial dependence. When a woman has a great career and can stand on her own, she doesn't tolerate nearly as much bullshit as she would if she has a dead-end job and can't make ends meet. They'll use a ton of rationalisations and excuses, but that's what it boils down to if you ask them enough questions.
Guys have much more to lose from being with a cheating girl AKA slut.
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Yeah, I disagree with this. Cheaters are awful, regardless of the gender, but at least when guys do it, they know they f*cked up, while women tend to make excuses and blame the man when women cheat on their partners. Girls definitely don't seem more forgiving, to me.
Don't know, it's not like women don't know there's likely to be many guys who would love to date them and be loyal. Then again, they are likely to be less attractive or be seen as boring because, as I said, they are going to be loyal, so no danger or risk involved, just everything they say they want in a relationship with none of the additional work, which is somehow unattractive.
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