Anyone care to tell me how I am wrong?

[Anonymous]

In my opinion Non virgin women over 21 are not suitable for long term monogamy. I know tough pill to swallow. If u can’t find the right guy before 21 and wait for him u did not pass this test. The thought of being emotionally intimate with a nonvirgin is just off-putting at best. If I’m the most important guy to u then u should treat me like it. If I’m not the most important guy to u then why am I dating u? If women give away the most emotionally and to a degree desirable experience they have to offer them I’m not giving them my all either. If u put in 50% effort u can’t expect 100% effort from me. I pray more men will start thinking like this and maybe women will be dateable again.

[hahahmm]

What almost all guys think is that if a woman only has sex to offer then she's not worth taking seriously. So you end up with lots of women who have high body counts but can't get a dude (worth having) who will take her seriously.

I have no problem with you having your standard... but I don't think it's really about virginity like you think. For example if you met a widow who was only ever with 1 guy and had everything you want, I doubt you're going to be freaked out over her body count. Just a guess.

That all said, the number one problem with women today is feminism. They have this idea that they don't have to do anything for a man but a man has to do everything for her. And this includes the loyalty thing women think they don't have to give. Lot of guys have said 'nope' to that.

[Asker]

To start my first serious relationship they have to be a virgin. Maybe by a certain age I’ll give nonvirgins a shot if I still haven’t found the one but I am absolutely not staying faithful to them in that case. Maybe that sounds harsh but they weren’t faithful either in my opinion and they will have no sympathy for it so I will have no sympathy either

[hahahmm]

If your goal is a forever relationship, then I would aim for that and not aim for "1st of many" but I hear you.

[Sandeeppingping]

I don't like when dudes talk like that, as if like there are women begging to be with them and they're like nope, tell the truth bruv, if you spoke with a 10/10 looking woman and have any type of emotional connection to her that's it that's all it takes, and the "non virgins" are not bad people, the amount of emotions a girl feels after having sex is much higher than how a man feels, if she's dating you then probably her boyfriend was a lying jackass or he wasn't the same anymore or whatever, and why would she meet so many guys yet not like anyone but you? That wouldn't be fair to the other guys who think and talk exactly like you for she is meeting them as well before you, do you understand the point I'm making?

[Asker]

Nonvirgins are bad people when they cannot accept that I don’t want to date them because of it. People in general who think I should not be able to only seek virgin women for monogamy and see my preference as unreasonable or rude are bad. Why am I expected to take on the girls problem? Which in your example is her lying boyfriend? Why is that my problem. So her lying boyfriend gets a more intimate sexual connection with her than I do? Ewwww disgusting. I want the most intimate sexual connection she has to offer and if I don’t get that I’m out. Itd be crazy to think otherwise I know that’s harsh and brutal but how can u possibly see it any other way.

[Sandeeppingping]

I still don't agree with you bro simply because it's a simple equation, everyone's looking for love, feminism says it's okay for a woman to have sex, no man says no to sex, so the likelihood that you'll stumble upon a stunning virgin is extremely slim, almost impossible I'd say, but I'm not judging as long as it isn't some frustration with women that caused you to have these views you have every right to say it exactly the way you see it, my advice to you though would be to hit on 18 year olds or whatever age doesn't get you in jail in your country, that's your best bet

[hahahmm]

The choice is not "virgin" or "has slept with 5,000 men". There's also women who only had 1 or 2 partners in their lives. Very rare past age 25 these days but they exist. The one who only had 1-2 is going to have less mental baggage than the one with car odometer level mileage. Also you say women aren't begging this guy - you're implying that a woman's value is all about looks but if that were true there wouldn't be all these good looking women whining about not being able to get quality dudes into serious relationships. There's lots of LOW value women who physically look good. Some guys have the willpower to say nope. Some do not. There's nothing wrong with judging a woman based on her mileage given that women judge men on 20+ different measurements every day of the year.

[Anonymous]

Because you’re a hypocrite. News flash not everyone finds someone before 21. Are we living in the olden days now?…and fyi before you say it’s cause I wasn’t a virgin i actually was silly. I barley had sex at 22 actually after 21. Just toxic relationships and before 21 people really aren’t emotionally mature at least most aren’t for something long term. Suck it up or get a move on. You’re probably also one of those sick minded guys anyways who wants to manipulate and use young girls, and oh most of them ain’t virgins either.. lots of girls lose it young or older or when they feel ready. Go find your pure perfect angel in your dreams!

[Asker]

If u weren’t looking for something serious since the first time u went on a date ur not serious about dating now. In the age in tinder and social media u have absolutely no reason to not be able to find the right guy by 21. And here we go with trying to make me out to be an abuser. Old tune, try something new.

[Opinion Owner]

Plenty of people find someone. Having sex doesn’t change that. Well unless you want someone who has kids and baby daddy problems good for you, or a girl who’s a prostitute at 18. You’re probably sick tho you only want a young girl so you could manipulate her and use her for your own fantasies sicko. Can’t handle a woman with experience or near your age. You got issues that’s all lol. Who’s looking for seriousness as a young adult barley finishing high school? I was immature most people are and how many of those relationships last? I’ll wait lol. I’ll wait for that statistic with young people under 21 working out🤣let me know when you got it

[Asker]

Sex is the most intimate bonding experience a person can have specifically when they have never done it before. If I’m not getting the most intimate bonding experience a girl has to offer I feel gross. How am I expected to dedicate my life to someone when the most intimate personal experience they can possibly offer was given to someone else. I don’t see how people can see this any other way. Stop with trying to make me out to be a bad person it’s kinda comical honestly. Who was looking for something serious at 16 oh I don't know virtually every girl I talked to at that age. It’s funny how now suddenly things didn’t work out for women and now that we’re older it’s “well it was just for fun anyways.” Nope idgaf I want the most personal intimate experience a girl has to offer and I don’t want someone else to have it or I don’t want the most personal intimate relationship possible with them. I don’t see how that’s not common sense. And I get that’s not what any of us want to hear but I’m just speaking facts

[Opinion Owner]

Yeah i get it that my mom found my dad still in her 30s and he didn't care that she had 3 partners before him and even had my half sister. He wasn't jealous or insecure over her past relationships/experiences either he fell in love with who she was and their still married after 26 years. My mom didn't last with her ex even tho she lost it young and was in a relationship that was accordingly "serious" he turned into a cheater and cheated on her while she was pregnant... thats also why many are divorcing marrying too young including my friend and she wishes she didn't marry at 18 well it didn't work because he turned to a psycho but wow its a waste even telling you cause now she's probably "unworthy" what you call to you too even tho it wasn't her fault but whatever.

[Asker]

Maybe this sounds harsh but why did she pick a psycho and not the right guy? I think there should be some sort of responsibility to pick the right person. Waaaay too many women pick a guy because he is sexually desirable while ignoring red flags when they are younger. And either way even if we say the girl didn’t have any part in this. Why is it now my job to pick up the pieces? So not only am I missing out on the most intimate experience a woman has to offer as well as her youth and looks. I have to deal with whatever trauma comes from that. How is any of this fair to me? Am I a charity or something? Like u can’t just expect me to clean up some girls mess.

[Jessica405]

Perhaps if guys stopped pretending to be "the right one", proclaiming everlasting love, popping the girl's cherry and finally dumping her, there would be a lot more virgins for them.

You are like the two workers. The first creates tools when needed. The second ruins his tools, then complains of them.

[Asker]

I don’t pretend to be the right one. Never have

[Asker]

Maybe I should tho

[Jessica405]

So many guys do! They like shagging virgins, then complain the one they want got her cherry popped by some other guy.

[Asker]

Ok well they could be me and not lie and still complain the one they want already had their cherry popped. The only solution here is for women to close their legs a single man has 0 control over this situation

[ZS007]

first of all why over 21? why that age? first wrong thing I see. Second of all non virgin women are perfectly datable and can wait for right moment to come to have sex with their partners. What if someone waited 1 and half year to have sex and then stayed together for another 2 years but broke up. Does this mean they are not good. You are talking nonsense. It would be better if you just said I support sex after marriage. I wonder do you ask girls if they are a virgin on your first date?

[Asker]

Because they are visually less attractive by 21. Dating a nonvirgin makes me feel uncomfortable. Yes they would still be undateable to me. It keeps me up at night and just makes me feel gross. I don’t see how it’s fair to me to expect me to just put up with those feelings. I’d feel better single. And no I don’t ask that on the first date lol.

[art84]

My brother dated a girl who wasn't a virgin and she had a boyfriend before they met. My brother and his ex girlfriend were together for like 7 years and she left him for another guy. They had children during those years. I just think if the girl was a virgin that doesn't mean they would be together still. People can change overtime and divorce for whatever reason or separate and live their own lives.

[boggboss]

If thatsvwhat u think good for you I guess and have fund funding a women that fits what you want and actually wants you 😅

[FilmGuy93]

A woman's suitability for monogamy has nothing to do with whether she's had sex before the age of 21.

[Anonymous]

Enjoy your hand for the rest of your life. Your attitude stinks.

[Asker]

Why does my attitude stink? How is what I said untrue.

[Asker]

Women aren’t hard to fuck in this day and age especially as they get older