Cuz men think differently then girls’ do for the most part , When a girl finds us attractive we are more accepting of her wanting us , compared to how a girl is acceptive to a man wanting her , because girls’ tend to get way more attention then most guys do , a girl can pretty much pick what she is into and what she likes cuz she has a lot more options , us guys on the other hand don’t have much options , for us to get a girl to be interested In us , we have to impress her , And make ourselves stand out more to try to get her attention , where a girl can just walk by and get a lot of attention from guys that want to stick their Dick in her without really realizing it , Yes it is a double standard but that’s how it goes , if girls thought like guys did? , this whole world would be an orgy lol What cracks me up about girls’ is they will complain that she was being cat called by some guy and it creeped her out , but if the guy was attractive , she would be all about it. Little do most girls’ realize is most of them are selfish and only do what is best for them , she doesn’t see things like us guys do, but in her mind it’s ok for her to do things but not ok for a man to do things. Most girls were raised thinking they are supposed to be treated like a Princess , and that all she needs to do is look beautiful and find her a guy that will support her and take care of her so she doesn’t mess up her nails. She was raised to believe her shit don’t stink and if things don’t go her way the grass is greener on the other side , She will find a guy that has Sucker written all over his head and use him like no tomorrow , and make joke with all her friends on how she has him wrapped around her little finger , Girls like that need to be on the streets where they belong , Whores
Yea I am not saying all girls’ are this way but a majority of them are sorry to say , to find a girl that stays loyal and faithful and committed is hard to come by these days , I blame a lot of it on social media for warping people’s minds into believing nonsense that every one is a cheater , ever one can’t be trusted , Nobody knows what respect means , if they are doing this it means they are doing that etc. I remember life before social media apps were even really a thing and people were way more content , when we met someone your main focus was them , nowadays you meet someone and now you are put on a list , like you are competing for someone to like you back the same cuz so many people have options and feel if they don’t get their way with someone , they will get it from someone else instead of fixing what is right in front of them. It’s a sad world we live in
This is a double standard, but it's one that makes sense and is based on biology and survival.
While I believe in equality to the extent possible, men and women are not the same, and we can never be completely equal. Anyone who says otherwise is lying to you - and when we push too far to try to force equality, almost no one is happy. That's reality.
Women have more to lose and more to fear from random men coming up to them and groping or touching them, so naturally they see it as a bigger issue. Would you want random men groping your own mother or sister without consent? I doubt it.
If you want to be able to grope a woman, you have to earn that right by making her WANT your hands on her. And most of the time, for most men, you can't, but too bad. You need to keep moving along until you find someone who wants that from you - and, yes, that probably means that you need to improve other aspects of yourself too. That's life.
As a man, you have to work and EARN these privileges - if you weren't fortunate enough to be born amazingly handsome, you're going to have to put in the effort, and there are few shortcuts. That's the reality for most men, and you have to man up and get it done - or don't, and don't complain that you don't get any privileges.
cos stereotypically guys are seen as always wanting sex and being obsessed with that to the point that any sexual advance you get from a girl (as long as she's a least oh so slightly cute) you'd definitely like it and say yes. so for many people its impossible for a guy to say no to sex and stuff. also girls are a lot weaker then guys, not perceived to be very sexual stereotypically, so for those reasons girls aren't seen as capable of forcing a guy to have sex, harassing or molesting him or whatever, so if a girl touches up a guy its viewed as okay or even a good thing
for girls though women are stereotypically seen as a lot less horny then dudes (and i mean its kinda true) so they dont want sex as much as dudes and also its ingrained in society to protect womens like purity and stuff in a sense. also people are tought that touching a girl is horrible since like a very young age, and girls are tought its bad from also a young age (and i mean it is) and they need to protect themselves and be careful of people like that. also 99% of girls react very badly if you do that but guys dont really care as much or even like it so there's also that
You have to understand that women have a long history of facing very real danger with strange men touching them. Men are much less historically physically threatened by women, so they aren’t conditioned to be as protective
Fair point.
@JessicaEarl Correct. It's about tendencies, not exactly whats moral.
@Djaay you just seem a bit aggressive and so it seems like you’re not understanding it. To explain a behavior is not to condone it. It’s just psychology🤷🏽♀️ in fact if we can explain a behavior, we’re more likely to be able to combat it. If you just get mad about it…. we’ll then I guess you get to spend your whole life getting mad about it
Anger , good or bad do affect how we perceive it. It angers me beyond the universe how blatantly stupid some are when it expressed with detrimental , dire , extremely serious effects of one's life. However I'm very forgiving in the same pretense. Those know it all's will refine either negatively or overcome stupid somehow gracefully.
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It’s all in the touch because of a man touches it is assumed more would come later and if he felt impulsive about it, it would be somewhat difficult for the female to overpower and neutralize his attempts.
If a lady touches, it’s not always guaranteed to advance regardless of her intents, and if she were to try, she could be neutralized so the male being touched can avoid that confrontation.
In today’s society it’s better to keep things equal and let it boil down to a person's personal rights and self-respect. If they feel disrespected or threatened then they confront or ask for intervention from the rightful party/parties.
He said somebody pinched his ass? How's that ambiguous or hard to interpret? That's harassy.
@anon1903 yeah I didn’t read the contextual part just the main question
And my comment still applies thankfully.
The first half of my comment applies to the question itself. It refers to slight touch barrier crossing.
The last part of my comment applies to the context of his question.
Best to keep respect of other people’s rights and keep hands to self.
I’ve never touched any man impulsively, and for them, wanted or unwanted.
Keeping respect at the forefront is best. Simple. Practical. Fair.
@Mac-One as far as prosecution goes, if you’re bothered you would have to bring this before the laws and such. Before mostly men dominated laws and I’m sure all men felt some understanding that men love sexual indulgences with female companions, or so it was back in the day MOSTLY/USUALLY, so to even suggest a man prosecute a woman for touch, would be laughable…
Because most hetero men welcomed it and were not intimidated by females.
Is it intimidating? Irritating? I don't know
But that’s why matters which are very much valued and somewhat aggravating should be brought up
to the legal system, law enforcement, and the masses.
Do I think men or women should be prosecuted? Not necessarily… at first. I think inspection and intervention should be offered and if this fails then prosecution or some sort of reasonable consequence be brought forth.
@anon1903 Most common male response if the guy is hetero and the girl is the least bit attractive:
" Hey, you just sexually harassed me! Do it again, please" LOL
@lovwslongnails this male guy needs self respect lol /srs
Harassment isn't a joke, and I detest every guy who makes light of it 😐
Uh, who says it is okay to touch men without consent. I get that you say that it happens, but I doubt anyone here is going to say it is okay to do but not for guys to touch girls. That is also not okay.
It is simple and called consent. Does not matter the gender. Everyone needs it to have physical contact with someone, especially as you describe which in my opinion is a sexual way (grabbing someone's butt).
That is sexual assault. Again, does not matter that it was a girl. She has no excuse. It is very creepy that a girl would do that. Equally creepy if a guy does it to a girl. I would like to know why you believe that people find this okay if it is a girl that does it.
I have never seen anyone say that is acceptable for a girl to molest someone. It is pure assault. Perhaps you live in some backwards country where girls are allowed to sexual assault whomever they want. I have no clue otherwise.
I beg to differ. Asker is saying it in his question. At the very least, he is implying this is the case.
No. I live in a first world country.
I dont care, neither do other men that I've talked to. I think men just like the attention and brush it off. Because its not typical to get much female attention as it is the other way around. So I don't consider it as sexual assault, unless she grabbed me by the dick. Eveb then I'd still be thinking "is she just flirting?"... It sounds fucked up, but its true. I'm not saying they should do it either...
It's a double standard...
Yet "I dont care, neither do other men that I've talked to."
I don't understand...
That is a direct quote from you. How can you complain about a double standard and in the same breath say you don't care. You don't see the irony?
Why are you attacking me? We're just talking. Having a conversation. This isn't complaining. You're complaining... ironic? 🤨
You seem triggered. I am unsure why as I did not attack you. I asked a question. Where am I complaining by the way?
Hmmm... so maybe I should wear a T-shirt that says: " Ladies - what are the odds I'll feel harassed if you grab my butt? Let's find out!" LOL My point is - the vast majority of men under 30 who are still in the dating game really wouldn't care if women sexually objectify them, in my opinion. The reverse is not true.
@Kelly6 Do you mean men don't feel "offended"?
@FifiJones I definitely agree with this. It's so fucking annoying that other people decide for me what is acceptable for people to do to me.
I don't WANT someone to ask me to hug me or gimme a little punch in the shoulder, or even a tease/flirting physical gesture.
Spontaneity is the essence of anything REAL. Having everything CONSTANTLY turned into this whole social procedure to GUARANTEE absolute safety in everything always. Life fucking sucks.
I always refer back to this video. How does a guy get out of this situation without being the bad guy/going to jail? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaPP0XGoV-g
@TalynMere it guarantees no safety and can be misused by criminal/deviant types just as anything else.
All it guarantees is frustration. Shocking levels of. All mammals have a natural way of getting to wanted/desired level of touching without needing to speak. Which bandwagon is peddling the 'one must verbalise' I do not know. Probably the blind types, and the ugly bores pretending anyone would want physical contact with them.
@FifiJones If anything, it guarantees *more* criminals to get what they want because they have a publicly enforced rulebook of acceptable behavior they can mimic that is ingrained in people as "safe and trustworthy".
It probably lowers accidents due to inexperience and clarity, but so does just teaching people to understand themselves.
@TalynMere correct. It is a way to mask criminality/molestation behind a veil of appropriateness. And a very arbitrary and artficially decided 'appropriateness' (as in, light bum spanking, as long as it arouses a child, shall be considered appropriate and not deviant).
@PrettyPriya However, you never hear of women being prosecuted for unwanted sexual touching of guys.
@Mac-One I figured at your age, you would be more intelligent than that. It took me all of about 60 seconds to find the following:
www.qcnews.com/.../
So, never happens? Never ever? Pathetic. That is a case (I read) that just happened to a woman in your country sexually assaulting someone, a child no less.
Stop trolling my post with your nonsense. I would at grow up, but it is most likely far too late for that.
*say
You might want to read up on this website from your own country before ignorance prevails. Why does this government site of yours mention male victims if it never happens? Curious….
https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics
Because men have physical power over women and that's the way nature works.
It's ok for women to touch men, because numer one, most men like it, and number 3 or 4 or whatever number we're on, they can't physically over power us and force us to have sex.
Anyone who doesn't understand that basic concept is a damn fool
It's the same reason you can't steal candy from a kid, but it's not the end of the world if they steal candy from you.
It's just not a big deal
And you are actually comparing a kid to a woman. They are not kids and even if men are stronger than women, that doesn't mean we are all made of steel while they are made of twigs. There are still many ways a woman can hurt a man physically like kicking his balls for example and actually abuse him. Especially in today's world where women are getting stronger and men are getting weaker yet society's view is still the same. It is the kind of mindset that makes people downplay men's issues
Everything men do is wrong, disgusting, and degenerate. Everything women do is pure, wholesome, and innocent. Even if it's the same action. The act isn't wrong in itself, it's men who are wrong.
How have you not come to understand this by now?
Were just different creatures that think completely differently. Woman are highly sensitive, whereas men, they don't really care. It's not that they "love it" or "hate it". It's just... meh. Not
I think it is wrong for a man to do it to a woman. But it's a different story for a woman to do it to a man.
It's a double standard. But it's what you except with creatures with different needs, wants and beliefs.
That's a good point. Attractiveness is a big factor. But I feel like the perception is still different for both genders.
I'm talking in general, from what I've seen and heard from women. They hold men to the highest standards possible, while holding themselves to none at all (except for their own beauty standards, which they blame on us).
@FifiJones not just female environments. Any environment they think they can get away with it. And then act like I'm being unreasonable just for telling them to keep their hands to themselves.
But I've also worked in a female-dominated workplace. Degenerate doesn't even begin. So in that, you're right, but in general women act like they can do no wrong and men can do no right.
I don't know, good question.
Supposedly because of physical abuse but, having never touched a female abusively in my entire life, I noticed that from circa 2016 or so, they started getting angry at any level of physical contact that was once customary (or even considered polite).
The people here who are saying it's not ok are missing the point. The point is that both men and women do it (it's happened to me countless times) but women get really upset and offended by it while men don't.
So why do women get so upset about it? Because they are more easily offended and more likely to feel entitled to not being offended.
Spot on, man.
I think in society, because men are the "pursuers," "go-getters," and, "always horny," we get this cultural acceptance of it being ok when women act like this to us, because we kinda like the unusual attention. A women knows this instinctively, so they'll grope us wether it's the ass, hips etc. Men instinctively know its not right if its the other way.
Were just different creatures that have adapted to our societal norms because of out biology.
This is purely speculation, but its what I think.
Sexual harassment is never ever okay, regardless of the gender that is being harassed.
If you have the feeling that you are a victim of such sexual abuse, then it is up to you to voice it and to make it clear to those perpetrators that it is not okay and if need be, to press charge against those women.
Sexual harassment is not the sole prerogative of one single gender but it is true that more women are sexually harassed than men.
However, I have the feeling that you actually like being sexually harassed otherwise, you would have said something to those women and not simply accepted as a fact. If you don't care, that means you approve and that is not okay at all because you give the signal that you agree with them harassing you.
If you don't like it, then voice it out loud to those girls and they will stop. Otherwise, enjoy it and that is exactly what I think that you want but then, don't make a big fuss about it being okay or not.
It is never okay.
you wouldn't believe how many times i have been laughed at for complaining about that.
This happened many years ago, at Taco Bell. Had a woman for a boss (no issues with female bosses as long as they are good bosses). She had this bad tendency to touch me, hands on my shoulders, sides, or grab my ass.. I politely yet firmly asked her to not touch me. She pulled me out of her office, to where the crew was and very loudly told the entire team that no one was to touch me, that i dont like it. I got laughed at, and 2 days later i was fired. I tried to sue for sexual harassment, and was laughed out of court.
While i agree with you, men are not taken seriously. Take for example Teachers in middle school and high school fucking their students. Rarely do they face consequences, and when it does come to light you see comments like "I wish i had her as my teacher" and the like.. This comes mostly from men.. But as a society we see sexual harassment and sexual assault and rape coming from women as some how less harmful or even acceptable. Some people believe men can't be raped. I kid you not, some people believe that getting hard is a choice, so they believe that if the man was hard, he can't be raped.
In any case i agree with you , it just really bothers me that society most of the time give women a free pass on these things.
By legal definition, " Sexual harassment refers to unwanted, unwelcome (or uninvited in some laws), sexual advances, comments of a sexual nature, requests for sexual favors, and harassment ". It's the "uninvited" part that gets tricky, so some definitions don't include that. This is very situationally and male/female dependent, in my opinion.
If you're talking about older people in any work or social situation, I'd agree that the vast majority would consider ass grabbing or sexual remarks to be obviously inappropriate, and harassment.
However, now let's talk about younger folks (20's) at a bar or club. For example, if a man get's his ass grabbed by or his balls rubbed by someone whom he finds to be attractive, and welcomes it, he won't feel harassed at all despite it being "uninvited", and regardless of the local law. However, if he get's grabbed by someone he doesn't find attractive, he won't welcome it and he'll be pissed off. The same is true of women, however the vast majority of women will NOT welcome that behavior, even if the person is drop dead gorgeous.
So depending on where you're located, if the legal definition includes "uninvited", then it would be so by default, although if there's no objection, I doubt it would hold up in a court. If you ask men if it's "never okay", I believe they'd disagree. If a beautiful girl wants to grab a guy's butt, she'll very likely get no backlash for doing it, so it's an "attraction dependent" thing for guys, in my opinion, and not so for women.
Then you have people who "talk with their hands" and are just very touchy but not in a sexual way. Some folks will object to that too, but again, most men won't in my opinion.
@worldscolide I commend you for having had the courage to voice your anger and frustration and I do realize that this sexual harassment business is more of a one-way street. It is sad that when men do act against female sexual harassment, they are made fun of.
I keep repeating myself but we do live in a sad time and society has its prejudice and bias when it comes to that. Worlds do indeed collide. The world of decency and the one of perversion.
you got that right!!
@loveslongnails Unfortunately, you are also right with the "uninvited". Social education about what is allowed and not, regardless if it is "uninvited" or not has not reached modern civilization yet. If you go to more traditional societies in Asia, something like that is unheard of, at least with the 30+ generations.
There are double standards everywhere and I am trying to fight it whenever I can but I feel like Cervantes' Don Quixote fighting the windmills.
Hope you're not replying to me.. And no there is no difference if there is no consent.
I personally am one of those people that react very badly to being touched, unless it's my wife.
@worldscolide you aren't everyone. I do not want your reactiveness to hinder my enjoyment of life.
I am very much okay with people touching me. I like it. I don't find it weird, it's a personable gesture.
I'm sorry that it bugs you, but I'm so tired of the world being shut down for the comfort of some people.
Yeah noone should go around grabbing your dick, but my god. I am okay with hug or a touch or a playful punch. I don't want to walk around with a big "Hi you can touch me" sign, or tell every single person that it's okay to touch me.
The amount of fucking social work I need to put in to just make people feel okay with being their own selves around me is ridiculous sometimes.
@FifiJones I agree, however, the very same act (an ass grab, for example) in many situations is not likely to be seen as harassment by guys. As I've said, the vast majority of young men would love that, in my opinion.
@loveslongnails In your opinion, have you done it before? lol. Im just curious.
@TalynMere you missed the point entirely.. Apparently you didn't see my other post, and for that you're simply not worth arguing with. You also put words in my mouth assuming I'm reactionary. Did I list how I react in public? No.. You assumed. You know what assuming does. The only place I have reacted was at a work place where my boss could not keep her hands to her self. Do your self a favor before assuming things child, read more of my comment. If you can to that your opinion becomes invalid.
I always refer back to this video. How does a guy get out of this situation without being the bad guy/going to jail? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaPP0XGoV-g
@loveslongnails we all know what is welcome physical contact and what isn't. To not know is to be retarded.
Ass grab is not touching. It is raunchy at best. Touching assumes non-explicit stuff. Explicit is different, and the issue is that, not normal social physical contact.
@FifiJones As usual, you miss the point. Ass grabbing in a bar when a women does it to a man will not be perceived as "sexual harassment"... it will be considered an invitation. When will you accept that? If the reverse happens, all fucking hell breaks loose - we already know that. Great big "duh" here.
@Mac-One I would never ever touch anyone (except a handshake) because I do consider those touches as very delicate. My motto is always "don't do to others what you would not want others to do to you".
I don't agree with you when you say that it is "openly acceptable for a girl to do it to a guy".
I am aware that not many guys would refuse to be touched by a girl but that is exactly where society and the double standards are totally rotten.
It’s all about perception. You said it yourself, you don’t care if you’re touched. In fact, most men welcome physical contact with a woman. Women perceive it differently because we live in a world where we are groped, ogled, and sexually harassed more than any man can ever relate to. So as a result, women are much more sensitive about unwanted touching. Being objectified becomes tiresome and offensive. If men behaved better in general, this might not be the case.
@FifiJones I don’t look slutty. Even if a girl is dressed in something sexy, it doesn’t give men the right to behave badly. Oh and get yourself a blue account dude.
Its an unfortunate double standard that women love to take advantage of. Same with domestic violence. Women will, knowing full well if the police are called, her man will go to jail, hit and abuse her man. Women know they face no consequences for it, and never will.
Possibly. Just find one you trust.
Most people are good...
I agree. My wife is one of those good ones.
Congrats. Hold on to her — with consent. She won't need it, obviously. 😂 😉
I would not be okay with a woman touching my ass in a public setting, that I did not know.
I think that is totally creepy and a turn off.
Those are the type of women that are well aware of that double standard and would likely cause you grief.
Depends on the touch. Some people overreact. Yes. But not most. Though touching can and does make many uncomfortable.
I don’t like being touched much by folks I don’t know. Even shaking hands. You see how many don’t wash their hands after taking a shit. Who knows where their hands have been.
I do my best not to touch people I don’t know or don’t know well too.
Because men's bodies aren't sexualized like women's bodies are. A man's butt is not considered a sexual object like a woman's ass. Women aren't attracted to men's butts. But men are attracted to women's butts. Thus, this is why its not sexual harassment when she does it.
men sexually harass women way more than women sexually harass men. Men have stronger sex drives. This also explains why men make up over 90% of rapists or sexual predators or child molesters worldwide.
I want to be touched. I don't mean in that way, though also yes in that way.
I don't like the way the world has become. It's mechanical and sterile. Social interaction has been turned into a computer program. If I'm not the exact perfect person with the perfect expected behavior and cause no problems, I will be rejected and alienated.
If it continues to get worse, I seriously don't know that I'll have the will to keep going. Life isn't fun. It's getting so sad.
Touching without someone’s consent is never ok. Especially, if it’s someone you don’t know. You can tell those women not to touch you if it makes you uncomfortable. You have every right to. But, I think for men they’re ok with it because they don’t get that much attention as women. I’m not saying that’s all cases, because there’s men who do set boundaries, but in your case you seem ok with it. I don’t know, I could be wrong 🤷♀️
Yeah, I don't care. It's almost complimentary. 😂 😂 😂 I'm not saying people should do it, but... you know... thanks.
I always refer back to this video. How does a guy get out of this situation without being the bad guy/going to jail? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaPP0XGoV-g
I’m okay with this double standard tbh they can touch
Same. I don't care. 😂 😂 😂
I wouldn't want a women touching me in a bar who I don't even know. Same with me touching a woman who I don't even know. But I get it's a bar and women are going to go after attractive guys and be all over them wanting to get their attention by touching their hands, butt and arms.
I think it is another lie used to divide us
As social beings we desire touch male or female it is a show of great affection
intention is everything women can smell amorous ambition from a 1000 kilometers away the same is true for a genuine benevolent embrace
LOL Funny question, because the answer is very, very simple: men like it, and even welcome it! If you don't care, or welcome it, it's not sexual harassment to you by definition.
Because we like it and are not threatened by it or feel something has been taken from us.
m Dude. If you made it all the way to 25 without being able to understand consent you might want to get off the internet and go find a therapist.
It’s because men are more of a physical threat to women than women are to men. We don’t feel threatened by it like women do.
it just seems ok because im guessing most of us men would love to be touched by woman or so people think.. but its not so true in real life only in our dreams.. it should be the same both ways.. keep hands off till your told its kool to do so
It’s not ok for women to touch men without consent or at least some form of close relationship with the person you’re touching.
No... it's NOT ok , they're trying to make it a norm for they're own double standard as usual. But these Desperate , hungry , ugly , stupid men who can't sneak up on a glass of water f... k it up for all the other men.
Bcoz women are heartless, shallow and hypocrites.
Women can seduce men but men shouldn't seduce women. Women can grab men's penis but men shouldn't grope her boobs and finger her pussy. Women can become gold diggers but men shouldn't become gold diggers. Women can date sugar dads but men shouldn't date sugar moms. Women can slap men but men shouldn't slap women. Society is moving in the wrong direction.
I don't think anybody should be touching anyone.
u If you don't want to be on the receiving end of groping, it s a battery on you.
its not okay, its just as bad and people need to start treating it as such
It's never ok to touch anybody like that lol
Generally, yes. But for men, it's a different world.
How so?
Because we don't care.
At least, most of us don't.
Double standards. Men are usually laughed at or dismissed if they were to mention it. Same with non-sexual assault.
Yeah, In the rare case. But most dont care.
Not rare case. It happens quite often. You just dismiss it.
You can't dismiss things you never hear about. Or at laast officially e. g , news etc...
Not in my case, in high school I hit a fat woman who touched my buttock.
Because women usually are harmless to men but men are harmful to women. And men usually don't get pregnant and women get pregnant. So men are careless and women are careful
Yet you have no idea how much a woman can ruin a guys life with just one scream. A lot of men don't wanna be fathers but get sued for child support anyways because a woman claimed he is the father.
@Aiko_E_Lara claiming has nothing to do with being a father. He becomes a father only after it's being proved that he is the father of the child, either through DNA test or any other. Simply because she says him as a father to her child doesn't necessarily make him father to her child unless the child's DNA matches with him, he need to be prepared to go through consequences. There might be some girls who lie so as to get a boy but there's also a DNA test which proves whether her claims are right or not. But most of the times girls claims are real even if the guy denies it, there's DNA test which proves him as the culprit
And you also have no of how a guy can also be a father until he disprove it within a month. How there are a lot of guys being presumed to be the father until he disprove it. And what you said about a girl lying also proves how harmful and girl can be which is actually my counter-argument to your claim
@Aiko_E_Lara yes, I agree with your fact that those kind of girls are harmful but not all girls are the same. There are girls who won't do that shit too
And i never exactly said that all girls are the same. That was a counter argument to your claim because you only looked at things at a physical perspective
@Aiko_E_Lara the question was asked at a physical perspective so I responded at a physical perspective only
There if that's the case, physically a lot of guys have a hard time fighting back because of the consequences and they get so many to say a woman can hurt a man physically just ask much also because of the fact that people don't care about men being hurt that much
@Aiko_E_Lara this happens rarely and not everytime
Women rarely hurt a man physically. Most of the women get physically hurt by man usually
That's because you don't hear about it often because it is rarely addressed. https://youtu.be/m4hrHUo70nY and even if it is addressed, it is often downplayed
https://youtu.be/dtVHnZX8E50 look at how many people who don't care about women hurting men physically than vice versa. If they're doing that on public then what more if they're doing it behind closed doors? Ironically enough you are good but you only just reason out that women are less harmless except you aren't taking a look at the other side of the story
*Ironically enough you agreed
@Aiko_E_Lara most women are harmless and only some women are abusive is what I assume
Then so are most men.
Sexual harassment is defined so not everything a guy does is automatically harassment. These things apply to both men and women.
Because men sexually screw women, women don't sexually screw men.
Also men rape women as well so that's why is considered inappropriate to be unwanted touching women.
that is just one of the differences between men and women.
It's actually not okay. We're just not going to make a big deal out of it because we're not threatened by it.
Guys are more less unaware with “sexual touch” versus “touch”.
Great question.
THIS EXISTS.
And as you mentioned, guys don't care and even if some guy raises their voice, he gets laughed at.
It is only okay because you let it be okay.
True. Because i naturally dont care. Its the same for many men I've spoken too. We just brush it off.
because men and women are not equals, we have different roles
it is because if you are a man, you are condemned since the day you were born. We live in a hypocrite world.
It’s still the old double standard
Thats fine. Were the same species, equal, but different.
I'd never. Harassment is harassment.
That's the point. It's not always harassment to men as it is for women.
Next time tell the bitch off.
I don't care, though. That's the part that's interesting.
Well then, you only have yourself to blame
I won't be blaming if I wasn't complaining... 😂
Okay.
You can't "tell the bitch off" I always refer back to this video. How does a guy get out of this situation without being the bad guy/going to jail? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaPP0XGoV-g
I don't think you will go to jail to protect yourself.
In the US it's quite likely if a man and a woman have a conflict the guy is to blame, regardless of the circumstances that led to the conflict. This is the case for domestic violence as well as social conflict. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNrWuZV3jjw violence against men is much more accepted then violence against women. This is born out by both statistical analysis as well as social experiments.
Did you not hear what Irish Wolf here said?
"I don't care, though." If even a small percentage of harassed men give misleading statements like that, you'd only have them to blame.
Not necessarily, abuse is defined by the victim. If something doesn't bother someone then it's no longer abuse. That doesn't lessen the impact on those who feel abused by those acts. I've certainly been the victim of these kinds of things. And have had heavy social pressure not to react. But I am also hyper aware of these things so it maybe that many guys just don't even notice.
If guys like him say they don't care, guys like you are forced not to react.
So blame other men.
I could also blame the efforts to minimalize and trivialize or even outright deny that men can be victims of abuse. People who have gotten in front of congress and lied about the subject, lobbied for laws and standards. Created models based on political motivations and pushed those standards to be the training standard for law enforcement. Intentionally blocked laws that define men as victims. And then try and blame it on men.
Honey, you're ignoring the live example.
Why Would A Man Lament About Men Getting Harassed Oftener & When Asked To Report, Shrug It Off Saying He Doesn't Really Care? ↗
Here you go. Some men even have shrugged it off as "turn on" or "invitation".
I am not saying that some guys don't mind. For that matter there are women who do not mind being fondled or groped. That doesn't excuse systematic and intentional legal fights to prevent these issues from becoming legally enforceable. One or two individuals does not effect legality. Lobbying and congressional malfeasance does.
If you're a guy who minds, raise your voice.
I know you can't change the system. But society is us, so change will start with one.
I do, I write articles, discuss the topic on places like here. Support organizations and politicians who wish to change these issues, share studies and participate when appropriate. Do my best to correct fallacies and address those who may be misinformed, write congresspeople and ultimately be a good example for those who need one.
That's good. Proud of you.
men have different intentions
@Greenbins men are creepier
@Greenbins all men are disguting
If you're in the club or pub, rte inensions are all the same, tbh
@Greenbins men don't think
Were just risk-takers. Woman are more cautious, though. But were capable of making moral decisions. The problem is a double standard. I'm not complaining. It is what it is. We're equals. But we are different creatures.
And you know i can also say women are creeps and they're disgusting with different intentions just like that. Now i'm automatically correct according to your logic
@TheIrishWolf us men are wolf's
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