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7 Reasons Why Nice Guys Will Always Finish Last (Page 2)
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Wow what a load of absolute crap. The only redeeming line is "Real nice guys DON’T finish last, only bitter lazy, insecure hateful men do." Maybe do your mytake on that instead of spending the entire time bashing nice guys and saying the EXACT OPPOSITE of that line.
I for one am sick and tired of women bashing nice guys, if a guy says he is nice, but it turns out he isn't than you don't hate nice guys you hate LIARS.
Just like if a guy says he is single, and it turns out he is married, do you turn around and bash married men? NO! You say you hate lairs who lie about being single. You need to apply that same truth to nice guys and liars!
I like all of your points especially number 3 and 7. The truth is the 'real' nice guys aren't as many as people think. Most of them are all the self-proclaimed nice guys who whine about how they can't get a girlfriend just because girls go for rich bad guys when they actually go for the girl who is outside their league. I've seen a few men here who say there is no such thing as league which shows that it's okay for them to demand a hot, successful girls though they're broke themselves.
I don't get people like you. You say guys should not go after women out of his league but when they don't you say he is a wussy and has low self esteem yet you have no problem with women going after guys out their league. Double standard. And for about 4 years I only went after ugly women since I am ugly. And know I have a girlfriend. Happy now?
I don't disagree with anything you've really said on here, I would say though that is goes for women to. As while we have nice guys women have their own version of it.
Remember the more you act like a lady, the more he'll act like a gentleman.
Other then that good take.
I think I am a decent "nice guy" and don't fit into any of those categories described above... it sounds to me like you are describing the a-holes that are out there rather than the typical nice guy.
I think women tend to be the ones that are less nice and are more judgmental about looks and success in a man. After all a guy can try, but ultimately it is the woman that makes the decision as to whether she will date the guy, or not. We can do things to impress her, but it all comes down to her.
Therefore, if the woman is not very nice and does not recognize the nice qualities a guy has, then they are likely superficial bitches, and the guy should count himself lucky not to be on their radar.
As a nice person myself, who has always done more to better myself and others around me, been a therapist for the weak, and countless more that I'm not going to get into, this "piece" was named improperly. You're classifying "nice guys" as losers. You actually said that in a reply to someone's opinion to this. You're wrong. Girls who like that bad boy, in and out of jail type, and jerks will always love those types. I see this everyday at work. Don't mistake every guy who is not nice with the previous, as everyone is unique. I have been successful being a "nice guy." If my relationships did not work, it simply came down to personality differences. Not because of me being nice. Some these "misconceptions" look like something you would pull from a medical handbook of anxiety symptoms. I don't agree with placing nice guy with this line of falsehood. You're piece was poorly written to be "nice" about it...
"No humor, no confidence, no looks, no career/money, no REAL LEGIT kindness and no ambitions."
women never miss out on dating oppurtunities for most these things except looks.
Hard to imagine me telling a girl she needs to get in the gym and loose some weight if she ever expects to have a decent person.
I believe a man that did that would be called SHallow.
Lookin for those traits is why women are bitter, because they focus on that superficial bullshit instead of what really matters.
Honesty, loyalty, respect, Unselfishness.
Actually I agree with this. If a woman expects to date a fit guy she should also take care of her body otherwise it would be hypocritical
Very insightful i must say and i do think that this is all true. However i d want to share that i have admittedly inherited these mindsets, not all of them but some for sure. Um id like to say i want to break them but I've come to find that its easier said than done not to say its impossible but whenever I've had a bad experience with a woman (and I've had many) i get in the heat of the moment believing some of this stereotypical nice guy b***s***, and it does end up sticking with me for a while and it lowers my confidence. How can i PERMANENTLY break these mindsets? I know its not the mistakes i make but the way i handle them.
This seems more than a little skewed. You essentially said ugly men are likely to be bitter and vice versa while you extolled the majority of hot men on their behavior. Guys can be shitty in general, not just one group of them specifically.
Also had a bit of a laugh when you said women are beautiful despite aging or whatever else and shouldn't settle for a fat neckbeard, yet when it comes to men who don't lift/are physically unimpressive, your response was "lol manlet, you better settle for an ass-ugly woman because no hot ones will want you".
Not that this applies to me anyway, since I'm a mediocre-looking asshole and don't fall in either category.
"4) They constantly hate on more successful and attractive guys instead of working on improving themselves."
This is the most important point of the whole Take.
Making oneself look as attractive as possible is something EVERYONE should do, and hygiene should be top notch with no exceptions.
Talking to women is a social skill that CAN be learned... but these guys would rather bitch and complain that work on themselves.
kick ass article sis!
I agree all the way with #5 and thank God you pointed that out. you know mr nice guys always have ulterior motives just like bad boys/jerks do while coincidentally portraying the role as being the mr nice guy themselves. but this one goes even deeper as this is one thing that rapists and even serial killers use to trap their victims
what the hell is this shit, dont you realize the so called nice guys depicted here are the so called ugly nerds that girls dont want, vs the so called nice guys who look like super models?
we all know what this poster is saying attractive guys are naturally nice just because they are attractive and ugly guys are not nice just because they are ugly.
as if a guy who can't attract girls can't be upset about it, grow up girl and since you dont really want a nice guy you'll end up with a bad guy who will slap and beat you around and make you end up in the nearest hospital, covered in blood, all because your too blind to see whats in front of you of whats really nice or really get cheated on
^ Exhibit A.
Yes well you reap what you sow.
I think you are doing the very same mistake that the guys complaining "nice guys finish last" do. You only see the entire situation from one side and not as a whole.
Just as those "nice guys finish last" complainers complain how all women prefer douchebags over nice guys, you are as narrow minded by claiming all those nice guys are exactly what you describe and negate the chance that there is some truth in peoples experiences.
Because the truth is in the middle of the entire issue. That there are nice guys who pretend to be nice to get laid and that there are girls who turn down actual nice (as in kind) guys to go date douchebags.
I never really pay any mind to all that nice guy stuff, or take it that seriously. To me it always seems to be that if you have to proclaim yourself as a nice guy then you must be desperate to prove it to a girl or prove that you're worthy of dating.
If I'm a nice guy and I know it, chicks are gonna know it too, and I don't need to shout it to the world. Furthermore, I don't really care whether she or anyone else thinks I'm nice or not, and just being nice isn't enough to date.
i'm a "nice guy" and literally none of your 7 items describes me.
nice guys are nice because they are kind, thoughtful, selfless. thinking women are gold diggers, having a victim mentality, being lazy, lacking ambition, etc are all things that could describe any guy but certainly not necessarily nice guys
The article makes no sense.
That means you're genuinely a nice guy. You're not the stereotypical "nice guy."
@snowangle but if this article is stereotyping nice guys all the reasons she listed could apply to nice guys, douche guys or anything in between. really the things listed are just types of guys who may have trouble finding a partner not any particular character (nice guy or otherwise)
What you just said in your last reply is perfect. Wish women would actually listen to that kind of logic but they dont.
I've only ever seen the nice guy mentality online. I've never met a guy offline that acts this way. It's pretty bad on this site alone, but I also belong to a social anxiety site and it's worse there. There was even a guy on that site who described how he bought this girl all this stuff, and how she wouldn't have sex with him, so he blamed it on his anxiety issues. He couldn't accept that maybe she wasn't interested, and she wasn't obligated to have sex with him just because he bought her stuff.
I'm a nice guy because i always help others in need whenever i can and i feel good about it. But i'm NOT lazy, hateful or without goals in life. I like drawing, swimming, reading books, chat, cooking food so don't generalize me as being undateable because i'm just nice. True i often assume successful guys are attractive and that i'm not because i look ugly and have a nice attitude. Fact is as an ugly, nice guy i can't afford to be mean to a girl. Only attractive guys can. Besides making the effort of getting rejected seems rather dumb. I don't like risk taking anyway. I can be assesitive and confident. Like honestly what kind of girl would be happy to hear me saying this after rejecting me:I really had a good time with you. It made me realize how lucky i'm to have meet such a beautiful woman. If you ever find yourself being sad or lonely i'l be there for you. I hope we'l meet again someday. I don't understand why i have to be seen as an last option because of what i'm.
"If you're really nice and have an amazing personality you wouldn't need to constantly remind everyone that you're a Nice Guy"
This is so true... And then good i am not one of those nice guys... Nice take! Ellisa :-)
Thanks ^_^
Nice guy/bad boy, what that really means is that girls want men to grovel before them, cat-call them, hit on them just like that, flirt with them and worship them on the streets. I see black and brown guys do that everyday, and it's disgusting to be honest. No man with dignity and honor grovels before women or worships them. Not even cat-calls or flirt with them. Not with random girls, no.
I mean, COULD I cat-call random woman on the streets and flirt with them, hit on them? Yes, of course. But will I? Nah. Hell freezes over before a blonde, blue-eyed guy like me does that. Don't care about this nice guy/bad boy BS.
I am not a slave to women, never will be.
I also love how girls have the audacity to call this behavior, this groveling before them, worshiping them, MANLY. It is NOT manly for a guy to demean himself, groveling before girls, over-complementing them, undeservedly making girls feel desired, who did nothing for him, who may not even like him.
As I wrote, I see black and brown guys do it everyday. And they get shut down everyday. They demeaned themselves, worshiped a girl and got shut down, just like that. That's NOT manly, it's being a beta bitch boy manlet, is what it is.
There's 3 different versions of nice guys, the ones you described, the ones that are real nice guys but have the looks and/or money to go along with it and FINALLY the other real nice guys who don't act like they're entitled, not bitter towards women but don't have the looks and/or money work on themselves follow advice and still get shut down.
I agree.
Well why do people on gag only do takes and questions on the first 2 versions of nice guys and never the 3rd one? Its like that y'all avoid talking about the 3rd one like the plague.
I can't stand to listen to guys who claim to be nice guys but don't hear themselves. They ruin it for the real nice guys 👅. In all seriousness you're a pussy if you can't man up to your own bullshit and this is for all the bullshit tees that will get defensive and claim women are shitty. Fuck y'all