Girls find me pretty hot and handsome some told me some said behind my back and its nice, i have at least 4 gilrs atm who message me and i asked three out (and they agreed) they know we probably can't get together and iam not interested in a relationship and that iam after sex but hey they like me and i like them (or at least find them hot) , am I nice? most people will answer with yes, can i be an asshole? yes if you try to hurt me, iam trying to have sex atm , if a girl keeps promising me something and then running away or she keeps playing games iam not gonna really try to figure her out i will ignore her and move on.
I'm not a nice guy I'm probably a morally fairly regular guy. I'd probably save myself or my family before my country in a life or death situation. I don't help charity unless it's convenient to do so I don't give blood I haven't registered for organ donation when I die
But I dont lane cut I'm considerate driver I do like helping people when its convenient for me to do so or if there close to me I have volunteered if only briefly and have donated to both charity and homeless people on the odd occasion and Iv helped my grandparents out and I've done things like got out to help someone lift there car of a rock or over a bump when its icey. Swings and roundabouts I guess.
Im just really confused here What guy shat in your cornflakes and then proceeded to eat them in front of you? I read this and get the feeling that you just have had the worst experiences with guys
Not this again. It seems like some girls are so butthurt about guys that they feel the need to trash guys en masse. Sorry you got dumped or cheated on, but guys aren't the simplistic automatons that you make them out to be. You're just painting yourself as an immature person by posting nonsense like this.
Guys are people; some are genuinely good, some are genuinely bad. The end.
You clearly didn't read this because I didn't say all nice guys aren't nice lol. This Take isn't en masse at all. I also didn't make them out to be simplistic.
You actually come across as quite immature yourself because you made several assumptions about myself and the Take that have nothing to do with anything I wrote. For future reference, read before you speak.
You're writing is just dripping with bitterness toward guys, and I'm not the only one who sees that. You need to work out your own issues rather than trying to blame them on guys for being 'nice.'
I don't feel one way or another about men as I'm not looking to date anyone right now. And just because several people are like you and can't read doesn't mean I'm 'bitter'.
And your comment doesn't make any sense. You're basically saying that if guys do anything of the above then it's okay and I shouldn't whine about it lol. The only reason people on here, especially the guys, are so upset about this Take is because they saw things on it that they do themselves. And I already knew they weren't going to like it.
But you and your ignorant comments are beginning to bore me. I'm going to the gym.
"You clearly didn't read this because I didn't say all nice guys aren't nice lol. This Take isn't en masse at all. I also didn't make them out to be simplistic." I read the article and specifically had to criticize you because you're labeling guys as "not nice" for having a physical presence. You're just being a jerk and bitter feminist.
Stop blaming guys!! They all have different personalities and it's not good to blame them for everything. OK I'm a girl but we make a lot of mistakes too. The world doesn't roll just about guys
I mean, your entire post was written in a voice that was directed at men... Just because you say, "also includes women" doesn't mean you're not targeting men. Look at the voice you wrote in, "men this, men that".
I think guys calling themselves nice guys is somewhat of an ego defense mechanism. They know that women are not attracted to them so they try to rationalize it in a way that actually boosts their self-esteem rather than reduces it. They say things like I am a nice guy, but girls are only attracted to jerks.
Well said man, this is why i see "nice guys" as losers, someone who justifies their negative situation in some way instead of taking responsibility for it
"If you think that by the end of this Take, you, as a man, are either in denial or a bad guy who knows heās a bad guy."
So.. those who don't agree with you are idiots and in denial? But you are the greatest genius in the world who is 101% correct about everything? Doesn't seem like your mental age is beyond 13
I agree with all of this, ans as far as the looks category, I'm pretty open.
I can be "shallow" as far as weight, but I've had women reject me pretty openly we I was heavier. When I lost weight, things changed a lot. Now I'm gaining it back and trying to do damage control. To me, if someone wants a certain type, they want a certain type. And I really hope most men aren't looking exclusively for only someone with big boobs big ass nice face, because that is bad. But I think most men are lenient, not requiring all three, but weight attraction on a more idiosyncratic basis.
People are allowed to want someone attractive physically, but I don't really think people realize that sometimes it's just no a part of the package sometimes and if it is, it's not always immediate.
in other words she got played by a player who she assumed was a nice guy, probably all because he was all confident, had a ripped body, had lots of money, etc. or he rejected her because she was told she was fat when she really wasn't. poor girl. i feel bad for you and many other girls who get treated like shit by those stupid "not really nice" guys.
"nice guys aren't nice" take number - 837292691927...
Seriously... Why do people write about this same topic day after fucking day after day after day after day... God damn we get it, nice guys aren't nice... Jesus...
News flash: women can be totally skeezy, manipulative c*nts. How bout them girls who act like they're all so nice. Then they find out how much is in the guys wallet, and suddenly he's not even worth the dirt on her feet. And a lot of women these days are plenty entitled, so you might want to think before throwing stones.
We understand that women unequivocally prefer assholes and see niceness as weak and so try to interpret it in as bad a light as possible. I get it. Stop pretending like the 'niceness' of nice guys isn't genuine just because you don;t know what you want.
there are nice guys, and there are "nice" guys. the former are decent human beings, and the latter are closet misogynists who believe that we women owe them something and blame us for all of their problems and wonder why they can't get any.
clearly, that's who this take is written about. :)
This is the 9999th take on this matter aaaand... nothing has been achieved. I just don't understand what the point is in attempting to dissect said topic.
A "nice guy", the one who gets friendzoned, is not nice for simple reasons. Their "niceness" is not sincere, it's all just a ruse, a mindgame. Often hypocritical, it's a no brainer these poor fools get friendzoned. /thread
Imagine that, someone has the audacity to disagree with you. Conclusion, they are a bitter person :) You sound like a lot of things, too, but I won't be jumping to conclusions.
The connotation seems to ring in your head, making you the bitter one. Accusing me of bitterness is a bit redundant here, don't you think?
At any rate, the point is, Every single one of these type of takes always fails to address the issue objectively (the fingerpointing). Hence my assessment of nothing ever being achieved. Insisting on bitterness is something called "argumentum ad hominem"
Don't try too hard, though, you will get plenty of comments how someone agrees with you 100% etc. This little fiasco here won't upset any of your mental well-being :)
I don't know what you mean by 'ring in your head', but in either case, I didn't say you were bitter, I said you sound bitter. You called people poor fools haha, how in the world does that have anything to do with me?
And the more you try to sound like you aren't bitter, the more bitter you sound. It's all about syntax.
Sincerity and straightforwardness gets equated to bitterness? I have said this before and I'll have to say this waay more often than I used to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IY0sxSbh4Y
I've always noticed that super good-looking men (face wise especially) tend to be nicer than average and below average men. I feel they don't feel the need to be assholes and are not bitter about women like other guys are.
In other words, you think the best looking men on average are over 30 years old or so? I just notice the most bitter guys towards women tend to be under the age of 30.
No I've seen good-looking men of man different ages. Younger guys tends to be more bitter because they have less experience. Older men tend to be nicer because they tend to be more mature and wise.
@adrianalima0 I see what you're saying with the older men.
Interestingly enough, there was a group of Facebook titled "Hot guys are assholes, Ugly guys are nice, and hot nice guys are gay." Most of the girls on there agreed that the good-looking guys were not near as nice as the ugly guys.
Then again, looks ARE subjective, whether people want to admit it, or not. So it's an opinion.
That's actually not true. At least in my experience. I met a guy who looked like this. He wasn't my type but I couldn't deny he was gorgeous. Probably one of the most handsome men I've ever seen in real life. bocadolobo.com/.../93.jpg He was super sweet and friendly.
I think that's true. Really good-looking guys aren't bitter probably because they have girls lined up. The most gorgeous guy I've dated was the sweetest person. He got sooo much pussy that he was too happy to ever be angry lol.
You know, I've noticed that the older I get, the nicer the good looking guys are. When I was younger, especially in college and high school, they were pretty mean. But it's like once you hit your mid 20's, things change and the mediocre looking guy starts turning into the douche bag. It may just be where I live, though. Technically, everything I listed on this list are subjective depending on your regional area.
@TayTay21 The problem with your theory is: 1. Women aren't near as visual as men, and most young women actually prefer a guy loaded with money (i. e. Look at Hugh Hefner, and the girls he gets), or any other wealthy, famous person. 2. As I was telling @arianalima0, Beauty IS subjective.
No only gold-digging, lazy, materialistic women need a guy with money. Women can have jobs now to pay for their own things now. The only time you would need a rich man is if you want to live in a mansion. People assume assume beautiful = gold-digger. Look at supermodel Candice Swanepoel. She's filthy rich and all she wants to do is be a hobo-mermaid in nature all day since that's all she posts about. That's what I would do. lol. s7.favim.com/.../...l-blonde-Favim.com-2356747.jpg
I am a real asshole. I treat women who deserves it with respect and I put myself in their shoes to try to understand them. I don't expect perfection and I actually like a woman with a little more. I tell you, I am an asshole!
@adrianalima0 Oh I am far from perfect you know. I won't bullshit you, I have my flaws. But according to this take, I certainly cannot call myself a nice guy š
Lol. I was being purposefully dense. I think I am a nice guy. That doesn't mean I am a carpet though. That actually was my problem in past relationships. I knew I was the kind to always consider my partner's position but at the same time I wanted respect and didn't want to always let it slide so I tended to over compensate and it got me in trouble. Meh, you live, you learn.
The problem with this is that it act's as if there should only be one type of guy behaviour.
But everyone is different. If there's a girl who wants to date for looks first and foremost, and a guy who wants to date for looks first and foremost. If they hook up and are happy that's not wrong.
There is no right or wrong, it call comes down to what works for you.
All of you women who post these angry rants about "nice guys" come off as a little entitled, as though you have been rejected by some guy who thinks he is too good for you.
Brilliant my take by the way. Its all true, and men say that women are hypocrites. Most of them I've encountered somehow think they don't need to put any effort into getting to know women of their interest. They think they can just stare at her with blank expressions, lurk around like paedos at a playground, stand next to her and that's enough to make her want him. . . ludacris or what? Lol.
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Girls find me pretty hot and handsome some told me some said behind my back and its nice, i have at least 4 gilrs atm who message me and i asked three out (and they agreed) they know we probably can't get together and iam not interested in a relationship and that iam after sex but hey they like me and i like them (or at least find them hot) , am I nice? most people will answer with yes, can i be an asshole? yes if you try to hurt me, iam trying to have sex atm , if a girl keeps promising me something and then running away or she keeps playing games iam not gonna really try to figure her out i will ignore her and move on.
I'm not a nice guy I'm probably a morally fairly regular guy.
I'd probably save myself or my family before my country in a life or death situation.
I don't help charity unless it's convenient to do so
I don't give blood
I haven't registered for organ donation when I die
But I dont lane cut I'm considerate driver
I do like helping people when its convenient for me to do so or if there close to me
I have volunteered if only briefly and have donated to both charity and homeless people on the odd occasion and Iv helped my grandparents out and I've done things like got out to help someone lift there car of a rock or over a bump when its icey.
Swings and roundabouts I guess.
Im just really confused here What guy shat in your cornflakes and then proceeded to eat them in front of you? I read this and get the feeling that you just have had the worst experiences with guys
Lol, yeah, because that's the only reason to criticize the actions of a few closed minded men, isn't it?
Something like that:)
Not this again. It seems like some girls are so butthurt about guys that they feel the need to trash guys en masse. Sorry you got dumped or cheated on, but guys aren't the simplistic automatons that you make them out to be. You're just painting yourself as an immature person by posting nonsense like this.
Guys are people; some are genuinely good, some are genuinely bad. The end.
You clearly didn't read this because I didn't say all nice guys aren't nice lol. This Take isn't en masse at all. I also didn't make them out to be simplistic.
You actually come across as quite immature yourself because you made several assumptions about myself and the Take that have nothing to do with anything I wrote. For future reference, read before you speak.
You're writing is just dripping with bitterness toward guys, and I'm not the only one who sees that. You need to work out your own issues rather than trying to blame them on guys for being 'nice.'
*Your
I don't feel one way or another about men as I'm not looking to date anyone right now. And just because several people are like you and can't read doesn't mean I'm 'bitter'.
And your comment doesn't make any sense. You're basically saying that if guys do anything of the above then it's okay and I shouldn't whine about it lol. The only reason people on here, especially the guys, are so upset about this Take is because they saw things on it that they do themselves. And I already knew they weren't going to like it.
But you and your ignorant comments are beginning to bore me. I'm going to the gym.
"You clearly didn't read this because I didn't say all nice guys aren't nice lol. This Take isn't en masse at all. I also didn't make them out to be simplistic." I read the article and specifically had to criticize you because you're labeling guys as "not nice" for having a physical presence. You're just being a jerk and bitter feminist.
Stop blaming guys!!
They all have different personalities and it's not good to blame them for everything.
OK I'm a girl but we make a lot of mistakes too.
The world doesn't roll just about guys
I didn't blame anyhing on guys lol, did you even read the Take?
I mean, your entire post was written in a voice that was directed at men... Just because you say, "also includes women" doesn't mean you're not targeting men. Look at the voice you wrote in, "men this, men that".
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@schnipdip I didn't say it wasn't directed towards men I said I wasn't blaming just men lol
"I didn't blame anyhing on guys lol, did you even read the Take?" Uh, yeah you did.
I think guys calling themselves nice guys is somewhat of an ego defense mechanism. They know that women are not attracted to them so they try to rationalize it in a way that actually boosts their self-esteem rather than reduces it. They say things like I am a nice guy, but girls are only attracted to jerks.
Well said man, this is why i see "nice guys" as losers, someone who justifies their negative situation in some way instead of taking responsibility for it
@WeComatose Thanks
"If you think that by the end of this Take, you, as a man, are either in denial or a bad guy who knows heās a bad guy."
So.. those who don't agree with you are idiots and in denial? But you are the greatest genius in the world who is 101% correct about everything? Doesn't seem like your mental age is beyond 13
I agree with all of this, ans as far as the looks category, I'm pretty open.
I can be "shallow" as far as weight, but I've had women reject me pretty openly we I was heavier. When I lost weight, things changed a lot. Now I'm gaining it back and trying to do damage control. To me, if someone wants a certain type, they want a certain type. And I really hope most men aren't looking exclusively for only someone with big boobs big ass nice face, because that is bad. But I think most men are lenient, not requiring all three, but weight attraction on a more idiosyncratic basis.
People are allowed to want someone attractive physically, but I don't really think people realize that sometimes it's just no a part of the package sometimes and if it is, it's not always immediate.
3.5 billion women. We have our choices...
in other words she got played by a player who she assumed was a nice guy, probably all because he was all confident, had a ripped body, had lots of money, etc. or he rejected her because she was told she was fat when she really wasn't.
poor girl. i feel bad for you and many other girls who get treated like shit by those stupid "not really nice" guys.
You got all that just because I said not all guys who call themselves nice are nice? Lol, you sound a little upset.
"nice guys aren't nice" take number - 837292691927...
Seriously... Why do people write about this same topic day after fucking day after day after day after day... God damn we get it, nice guys aren't nice... Jesus...
Probably the same reason why you posted a useless comment, because they can lol, anymore questions?
News flash: women can be totally skeezy, manipulative c*nts. How bout them girls who act like they're all so nice. Then they find out how much is in the guys wallet, and suddenly he's not even worth the dirt on her feet. And a lot of women these days are plenty entitled, so you might want to think before throwing stones.
We understand that women unequivocally prefer assholes and see niceness as weak and so try to interpret it in as bad a light as possible. I get it. Stop pretending like the 'niceness' of nice guys isn't genuine just because you don;t know what you want.
lol, yes!
there are nice guys, and there are "nice" guys. the former are decent human beings, and the latter are closet misogynists who believe that we women owe them something and blame us for all of their problems and wonder why they can't get any.
clearly, that's who this take is written about. :)
This is the 9999th take on this matter aaaand... nothing has been achieved. I just don't understand what the point is in attempting to dissect said topic.
A "nice guy", the one who gets friendzoned, is not nice for simple reasons. Their "niceness" is not sincere, it's all just a ruse, a mindgame. Often hypocritical, it's a no brainer these poor fools get friendzoned. /thread
You sound very bitter.
Imagine that, someone has the audacity to disagree with you. Conclusion, they are a bitter person :) You sound like a lot of things, too, but I won't be jumping to conclusions.
It actually has nothing to do with you disagreeing with me, rather, your connotation. @Fathoms77 disagreed with me and I didn't care.
The connotation seems to ring in your head, making you the bitter one. Accusing me of bitterness is a bit redundant here, don't you think?
At any rate, the point is, Every single one of these type of takes always fails to address the issue objectively (the fingerpointing). Hence my assessment of nothing ever being achieved. Insisting on bitterness is something called "argumentum ad hominem"
Don't try too hard, though, you will get plenty of comments how someone agrees with you 100% etc. This little fiasco here won't upset any of your mental well-being :)
I don't know what you mean by 'ring in your head', but in either case, I didn't say you were bitter, I said you sound bitter. You called people poor fools haha, how in the world does that have anything to do with me?
And the more you try to sound like you aren't bitter, the more bitter you sound. It's all about syntax.
Sincerity and straightforwardness gets equated to bitterness? I have said this before and I'll have to say this waay more often than I used to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IY0sxSbh4Y
the problem is that people don't want to accept us for the way we are cause we don't buy into the whole being fake thing
it doesn't get you anywhere in life being fake
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I've always noticed that super good-looking men (face wise especially) tend to be nicer than average and below average men. I feel they don't feel the need to be assholes and are not bitter about women like other guys are.
I've noticed that, too. I thought it was just me lol
In other words, you think the best looking men on average are over 30 years old or so? I just notice the most bitter guys towards women tend to be under the age of 30.
Nope. It's not just you. Handsome men are often very sweet.
No I've seen good-looking men of man different ages.
Younger guys tends to be more bitter because they have less experience. Older men tend to be nicer because they tend to be more mature and wise.
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@adrianalima0 I see what you're saying with the older men.
Interestingly enough, there was a group of Facebook titled "Hot guys are assholes, Ugly guys are nice, and hot nice guys are gay." Most of the girls on there agreed that the good-looking guys were not near as nice as the ugly guys.
Then again, looks ARE subjective, whether people want to admit it, or not. So it's an opinion.
That's actually not true. At least in my experience.
I met a guy who looked like this. He wasn't my type but I couldn't deny he was gorgeous. Probably one of the most handsome men I've ever seen in real life.
bocadolobo.com/.../93.jpg
He was super sweet and friendly.
@adrianalima0 I was just going by what a lot of girls tell me. Obviously, not everyone is going to have the same opinion.
True...
@adrinalima0 So since you find guys you're attracted to more friendly than guys you're not, I guess it's a win/win situation for you, right?
Yeah I guess.
But you have to remember there is always exceptions. Not even handsome man is nice and not even not handsome man is mean.
I think that's true. Really good-looking guys aren't bitter probably because they have girls lined up. The most gorgeous guy I've dated was the sweetest person. He got sooo much pussy that he was too happy to ever be angry lol.
You know, I've noticed that the older I get, the nicer the good looking guys are. When I was younger, especially in college and high school, they were pretty mean. But it's like once you hit your mid 20's, things change and the mediocre looking guy starts turning into the douche bag. It may just be where I live, though. Technically, everything I listed on this list are subjective depending on your regional area.
@taytay
exactly
Yeah, it's called growing up.
@TayTay21 The problem with your theory is: 1. Women aren't near as visual as men, and most young women actually prefer a guy loaded with money (i. e. Look at Hugh Hefner, and the girls he gets), or any other wealthy, famous person. 2. As I was telling @arianalima0, Beauty IS subjective.
No only gold-digging, lazy, materialistic women need a guy with money. Women can have jobs now to pay for their own things now. The only time you would need a rich man is if you want to live in a mansion.
People assume assume beautiful = gold-digger. Look at supermodel Candice Swanepoel. She's filthy rich and all she wants to do is be a hobo-mermaid in nature all day since that's all she posts about. That's what I would do. lol.
s7.favim.com/.../...l-blonde-Favim.com-2356747.jpg
I am a real asshole. I treat women who deserves it with respect and I put myself in their shoes to try to understand them. I don't expect perfection and I actually like a woman with a little more. I tell you, I am an asshole!
You don't really sound like an asshole then :)
@adrianalima0
Oh I am far from perfect you know. I won't bullshit you, I have my flaws. But according to this take, I certainly cannot call myself a nice guy š
Lol, you didn't read it because I never said not being a nice guy meant you were an asshole. There are in betweens, you know.
But if you think you're an asshole, that's a personal revelation.
Lol. I was being purposefully dense.
I think I am a nice guy. That doesn't mean I am a carpet though. That actually was my problem in past relationships. I knew I was the kind to always consider my partner's position but at the same time I wanted respect and didn't want to always let it slide so I tended to over compensate and it got me in trouble. Meh, you live, you learn.
Oh, okay, I get it now, I apologize.
No need to apologize...
I'm that same way with people. It doesn't make you an asshole for treating people the way they deserve.
The problem with this is that it act's as if there should only be one type of guy behaviour.
But everyone is different. If there's a girl who wants to date for looks first and foremost, and a guy who wants to date for looks first and foremost. If they hook up and are happy that's not wrong.
There is no right or wrong, it call comes down to what works for you.
All of you women who post these angry rants about "nice guys" come off as a little entitled, as though you have been rejected by some guy who thinks he is too good for you.
Number (4) here:
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a27782-6-tips-for-guys-when-it-comes-to-the-opposite-sex
Brilliant my take by the way. Its all true, and men say that women are hypocrites. Most of them I've encountered somehow think they don't need to put any effort into getting to know women of their interest. They think they can just stare at her with blank expressions, lurk around like paedos at a playground, stand next to her and that's enough to make her want him. . . ludacris or what? Lol.
*rolls eyes* so tired of seeing these things pop up.
Yeah dude, wth! xD It's like there's a new MyTake every day here about how "Nice Guys Aren't Actually Nice", LOL.
@nfigure Lol yeah it's kind of annoying