Do you think men are still gentlemen these days? (Page 3)
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Yes , it all depends on you. If you're a person who seeks attention and care about looks only you'll probably meet fuck boys and fake people. You just have to judge people through interacting with them and being around them for a long term and you'll be amazed at how caring they would become for you. Just invest your time with the right person
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Yes and no. Do i think women are still feminine and selfless today? Yes and no. Welcome to the reality of humans.
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Not so much anymore. I think guys that are my generation are the last. To be a gentlemen just on the first date is not a gentlemen, you have to be that way in general. As far as first date its good to be a gentlemen but you can't be to much of one most of the times. When I was younger if you bought a girl flowers they kind of laughed at you. So, ladies if you are one of the few that were, blame other females that you didn't get any. Being courtesy and having manners seems to be the safe bet for guys.
Yes there is. I try my best to be one myself and I have a few friends who are as well. I do it based off of morals, it's how I was raised by my father, not some attempt to get in a woman's pants like I've seen in other answers. I've honestly see way too many situations of a woman who says she wants one and needs one due to how she was treated by other men, yet they tend to always pick another jerk over a gentlemen. Smh. My question is are there really any genuine women these days?
And the part with the jerks will last for ever. But whenever they are down they know someone to build them up again
Expectations and attitudes around dating have been changing for awhile, towards greater equality and less formality. Are there thoughtful, courteous, caring, polite men out there? Absolutely. It's just that the way that they show it isn't necessarily to pull out your chair for you (and personally, I don't really want/need someone to pull out my chair, so I'm cool with that).
Very few for the ones who have been taught. If they weren't taught and refuse to apply it, then it says how far we've fallen as humanity. However, there aren't many around because there aren't much 'ladies' around. Men are being mocked as sissy's for trying to be a 'gentlemen'. But the real issue is not who is and who isn't. But how many men are actually genuine as being one.
Yeah but if you stop beeing gentel because you got called sissy or pussy than I would not consider him as gentelman
@The_Gentelman
The issue is how society treats and handle this situation. If were not repremending those who bully other men for being respectful, then how can we blame that person whose self esteem is literally getting attacked? Something isn't right with that picture.
I know still anyone should have the backbone to stand for his ideals
Yes. I meet a lot of youngsters as I am out walking, and I'm very impressed by the courtesy and politeness of the majority. Of course, you get a few that think it's clever to be against all things respectable, but from what I see, they are still in the minority.
Thanks to stupid modern feminism i now get eyes rolled at me instead of thank yous when i open a door for a girl or offer to pay. Chivalry is killed by feminism, then they whine there's no good guys. Oh irony!
I let men open doors for me :p ;).
I am blown away though that it used to be a sweet gesture, and now I actually have been eyes rolled at more then once, when that happens i dont call them back.
Where are you from?
Find a girl from Europe, if you are from north America.
Preferably Eastern Europe.
Preferably Russia lol.
They you'd need to open even doors of a car.
Im from Balkans.
No gentlemany attitude - no second date for me :).
Plus:
If you get a girl from Russia, and say, you are from the States, you can have all day long something to talk about - politics lol. Haha
Oh, wanna proof? I can paste you few clips links :).
Hmmm yeah around here in central eu altleast some woman a greatful for gentlemanish behaviour
I found it
How to know you're dating a russian girl
youtu. be/B1gOBh7NTsw
Its 1:41 until 2:14 but check if I remembered wrongly
Oh my goodness! Thanks for that link i was cracking up! Girls use to like that stuff here, but not since Social Justice Warriors & feminists acted like somehow it was implying “women are weak” when you do kind acts for them. Or that you’re identifying their gender when your chivalrous. I dont call a girl back if she’s ungrateful.
you're welcome :p :)
The real question you should be asking is "what impetus is there for men to be gentleman?" Men are not going to treat women like ladies if they have no reason to, and the whole "because it's the right/proper thing to do" is BS. Do women deserve special treatment? I thought the whole point of the feminist movement was to make the sexes equal, so why should one be elevated above the other? Gentleman don't really exist anymore, because women in society and politics have decided they don't need 'em.
We can still be a gentleman, its all about communication really - vice versa for ladies and what they seek in their men. I see it as one of those things where you dont know if your girl likes a spontaneous spank on her butt or not until you actually do it. Sometimes I play a gent, sometimes douchey, both worked well for me.
Good point.
Depends on the type of men out there. Not all men are the same in behaviour, characteristics or morals in life. The biggest question is what is your own definition of a gentleman in a men. Some have different preferences or taste. Its a vague question and there are many answers to that.
I don't think anyone under 45 is, Sound like my Dad now, but, self centered, entitled little assholes 85%, no manners, most likely never opened a door for a woman in their sorry life, send your Mom flowers Why? Because she's your mother and deserves it, not cause it's mother's day or some bs reason, do it because... you're a gentleman, help a older person carry groceries to their car, because you are a gentleman... I could go on all day and most of these guys are thinking... yeah, right... whatever dude! It's sad
Define gentleman. I'd bet there are a few that have the literal true characteristics of a gentleman and know the ways of being a gentleman through and through. Would I say I'm a true to form gentleman that they show in all the romance movies? Probably not, but I do strive to be as gentlemanly as I can be to those who I take on dates and the women who have been my girlfriend's in the past. Once again what's your definition of gentleman because I feel that would vary from person to person..
To me a gentleman is a patient wolf who knows how to act, when to act who knows how to make people around them feel comfort and security even though it doesn't exist in that situation
Ah, so pretty close to the dictionary definition. They yes I would say I am one lol. Sorry if my original message came off a bit strong. I didn't mean to if I did.
I'm just telling you what I think one is honestly I didn't read your entire message in the first place but you must know that a wolf always has self preservation in mind
I find it quite hilarious and appealing at the same time that a 17 years old girl like you is asking such question. I'll go ahead and answer it. Every man has a capacity to do good and bad. In the same sense, every girl has the capacity to stop being such unresponsive douchebag.
Ok, I hate the whole "gentlemen" construct. It's dumb and it puts pressure on men. Women don't have to be "lady like" anymore but men have to still be gentlemen. Gender roles are harmful. Saying a woman needs to be ladylike is just as offensive as saying a man needs to be a gentleman. The whole thing is dumb.
The main thing about the construct is being respectable and going beyond the normal to the other person.
Why do you think it's dumb?
Because women don't have to be ladies anymore. It's now offensive to point out that a woman isn't being ladylike but it is ok to point out that a man isn't being a gentleman. Also, gentlemen have to do everything. They have to pay ALL OF THE TIME, they have to buy gifts constantly, they have to give the girl his jacket, they have to do EVERYTHING. Guys are humans and we don't have to treat women like queens.
Being a gentleman or a lady traditionally showed one was 'well-bred'.
That reminds me of horses.
Neigh!
But no people should be considerate and practice common courtesy and etiquette. For instance hold the door open for people behind you or if you arrive at the same time let them go in front of you (I do this for people). Say "Pardon me?" instead of "WHAT?" Say "Thank you" and "You're welcome". Be polite to hospitality staff and tip your waitress. Give up your seat on the bus to those who need it. Just be generally polite and respectful. And if you are dating then treat that person like you would want to be treated.
Well, I'm not treating my girlfriend like a queen if she's not going to treat me like a king.
This guy knows whats up
Thank you
Also if you don't like the word gentlemen you can use the more more accurate and my personal favourite term "beta male" i will never treat you with respect because of your gender i will treat you with respect if you treat me with respect.
You totally misread what I said. I said that I'm not going to treat someone with respect if they don't treat me with respect back in a relationship. I don't like one sided shit.
Also, that term works well with you more. The term beta male doesn't exist. There's no such thing. But if you believe in it so much, why not use it on yourself. You suit the definition.
The term exists... just google it... and oh boy it does not suit me! I do not do a single thing a beta male does so...
It's not a real thing. It's a stereotype so that people like you can feel better about themselves. Alphas and betas don't exist. There aren't two types of men. Also, alphas do exist, but they aren't what you think. Please get a life.
Some men are traditional gentlemen, but they lose out to the bad boys, who treat women discourteously.
Feminism is also working hard to discourage good manners.
Being a gentleman is rejected by women, especially Feminists, so, in time, it will disappear.
If your not finding them then the obvious answer is your looking in all the wrong places. Gentleman aren't the extreme radical idiots who are girl hopping. They are the quiet guy who has a lot of friends but masks that by keeping to himself mostly.
I think they are out there but there are few left or they are already married, or live somewhere where this is a normal behavior. In California there are men that think they are gentlemen but they are really boys or have no clue what they are doing. There are some that are taught to act like one but Its really difficult to find someone who really knows how to act right.
Sounds logic
A gentleman is a man who helps people, who cares about their well being and is always there for the person in need. A gentleman may not be the most attractive guy to you, but he will always care about you and what you think of him.
Sometimes a guy may only act like a friend because it hurts too much for him to do otherwise. If you shot him down before or he gets the feeling like your not interested, he'll pretend like everything is fine and try and carry on with his life. But this can be agonising for him. A true gentleman will always put others before himself, will appreciate the little things you do for him and will never betray your friendship.
Society is killing manhood. It's proven men have only 75 percent of the testosterone we used to have. Some guys are still gentlemen, but they're only perceived that way if he's, at the same time holding that manly feeling and attitude with himself. Otherwise it's perceived as weak and girls have no option than going for jerks which seem to be the only ones that are still men. If you get both things, you become the ONLY ONE